[Q] Im New to this where to start and what to do? - Desire General

Hi People,
I have only just found out that you can change the ROM's and all sorts of thing with My HTC Desire.
I have had my phone for 2 weeks, I'm on Virgin Mobile and don't have a clue.
I was talking to a guy at work who has one and he told me about you guys.
I have had a look around but can't see anything for the noob...lol (ME!!!).
I was wondering is anyone could give me some advice on where to start, What to look out for and any general advice on what to do and what not to do?
Any Help would be much appreciated.
Many Thanks
BG Macster (Mark)

First thing is to ask yourself why you want to change the ROM on the unit. Are you running out of space or are you just the type who likes to have more control?
I didn't root for months as the phon, out the box, does exactly what I want it to do. The only reason I've rooted now is to run the HD ROM but otherwise I'd stay stock.
You're going to get people reply with 'root it now, don't ever think of going stock, bla bla bla' but it's an individual thing, as is the choice of ROM. Read up on the stickied threads in the various forums and use the search button a LOT!

BG Macster said:
Hi People,
I have only just found out that you can change the ROM's and all sorts of thing with My HTC Desire.
I have had my phone for 2 weeks, I'm on Virgin Mobile and don't have a clue.
I was talking to a guy at work who has one and he told me about you guys.
I have had a look around but can't see anything for the noob...lol (ME!!!).
I was wondering is anyone could give me some advice on where to start, What to look out for and any general advice on what to do and what not to do?
Any Help would be much appreciated.
Many Thanks
BG Macster (Mark)
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Welcome Mark.
EddyOS has provided you some excellent advice - don't rush into anything.
Mostly people do this as a kind of 'hobby' (including me) and you can end up with some cool stuff on your phone that HTC never intended you to have or have much later on. On the flip side, you can also wreck your phone too through doing the wrong thing or just plain bad luck. HTC can be a bit difficult in fixing stuff under warranty if you've been mucking about with your device, so be warned.
Everything you need to know about rooting and flashing (conjures up interesting images doesn't it?) is contained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
So read up, lurk about a bit in the forums and if you think you need to - have a go.
Good luck!

Thanks Guys Some sound advice there i will look around before i do a thing.
Many Thanks

First thing I would do, though, is check the ROM currently running on your Desire and get the RUU* file in case you ever need to go back to stock after rooting. To check, go to Settings>About phone>Software information and make a note of the software version.
You can then go to this site and see if the version you're on at present is available. If it is, download it:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
*RUU = ROM Upgrade Utility, official package from HTC to install a ROM

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Stoopid noob needs advice,please dont flame.

Just been given a Vodafone u.k 1605(hermes),the digitiser was trashed so ive soldered in a new one.I would love to install Black 2.5 for T-moblie u.k which is my sim network.Do i just install this to the phone or do i have to take any other action first?The phone is unlocked.
Sorry,i imagine this has been asked many times before.I have seen mention of Hard spl's and other thing a ma jigs lol.
Many thanks Tony
You really have a lot of reading to do. So much that we cannot post it all here. It has taken an entire forum for all of the information. You need to start here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
Get familiar with what you can do. First thing you are going to want to do is update the boot loader so you don't brick your device. Read here for more information:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HardSPL
maxoutput said:
Just been given a Vodafone u.k 1605(hermes),the digitiser was trashed so ive soldered in a new one.I would love to install Black 2.5 for T-moblie u.k which is my sim network.Do i just install this to the phone or do i have to take any other action first?The phone is unlocked.
Sorry,i imagine this has been asked many times before.I have seen mention of Hard spl's and other thing a ma jigs lol.
Many thanks Tony
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Do not "just install" ... ideally read the wiki first, and then follow instructions on Mrvanx's Guide. Upgrading is pretty painless and easy ... and the guide should keep you on track.
A ha ,i knew there would be more to it than that,not sure what a wiki is lol but looks like im gonna find out.
If someone could just give me a list of things to do before hand ill do the appropriate reading
i.e 1 upgrade the boot loader etc etc ,please dont go into detail a mere shopping list will do.
,thanks for the links by the way.
Best wishes tony
maxoutput said:
A ha ,i knew there would be more to it than that,not sure what a wiki is lol but looks like im gonna find out.
If someone could just give me a list of things to do before hand ill do the appropriate reading
i.e 1 upgrade the boot loader etc etc ,please dont go into detail a mere shopping list will do.
,thanks for the links by the way.
Best wishes tony
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If you follow the advice in link #3 above you wont go wrong.
The site referred to gives you all the knowledge and confidence to do the job.
Trust me I learnt the same way, by reading threads.
good luck!
Sorry peeps,just reading the guide above.I typed before i looked,hopefully all will become clear....ish lol
maxoutput said:
A ha ,i knew there would be more to it than that,not sure what a wiki is lol but looks like im gonna find out.
If someone could just give me a list of things to do before hand ill do the appropriate reading
i.e 1 upgrade the boot loader etc etc ,please dont go into detail a mere shopping list will do.
,thanks for the links by the way.
Best wishes tony
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Here is the list you wanted:
Read the wiki
Read the installation guides.
Read the threads concerning the threads on available roms.
Understand what you have read.
Flash your phone.
Here you go... step by step list of everything you need to do to upgrade to the Black 3.0:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=45&Itemid=26
Just about to hard spl and reported bat below 50% so have to wait now for it to charge a little lol.Just tried to download black 3.0 and the link seems to be down,i have black 2.5 is that a good one to flash?
Thanks for everyones help thus far by the way.
maxoutput said:
Just about to hard spl and reported bat below 50% so have to wait now for it to charge a little lol.Just tried to download black 3.0 and the link seems to be down,i have black 2.5 is that a good one to flash?
Thanks for everyones help thus far by the way.
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My subjective pick is Black 3.01 ...
Remember to go "Hard SPL" first, and that you need to upgrade your radio seperately.
Right just updated the Hard splv7 and my radio to 1.41.00.10,ive also flashed with black 3.0. Now i cant seem to get a wireless link to work or turn on my bluetooth?
Also does this mean i can flash any cooked rom?
Many thanks Tony
Update: it just needed a reboot and all was well.
Getting back to the above question-can i flash with any coocked rom now?
Thanks for all your help.Tony
maxoutput said:
Update: it just needed a reboot and all was well.
Getting back to the above question-can i flash with any coocked rom now?
Thanks for all your help.Tony
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generally speaking, yes.... but be sure you are flashing OS only (unless you want to upgrade your radio too). Most folks are putting out OS only upgrades now, but some replace the radio. once you are hard spl and no longer a flashing virgin, it becomes second nature.
Thanks for everyones help,all sorted,nice one!
Wow what a refreshing read. A noob explaining himself and asking clear questions and members helping him out in an open and non-judgemental way...
Well done everyone!
...and no flames...
Kudos go to MrVanx for those incredible guides.
Yep superb guides and a very noob friendly thread,thanks again peeps.Flashed to a couple of different roms today to check them out.

Original OS of the Diamond

Hello everyone,
I hope I posted my first question here in the right area (if not, shame on me )
In the next few days my HTC Touch Diamond will arrive from Vodafone. I do not know if this is just in Germany but my last phone from Vodafone, a Sony Ericsson W810i, also had a "special" Vodafone-OS on it. On the W810i I was finally able to look up all the necessary information myself to make it a Vodafone-free phone. But as I read through all the available Wiki's, FAQs and other threads I am starting to see that this might be another level compared to what I have done before.
My questions concerning my new device are whether there is a possibility to change the "Vodafone-red-theme" to the original one which you also can see on HTC's homepage. Of course, the whole device should be in its original form, not just the theme, whereas the Vodafone-Services (SMS-Gateway and all the other service numbers which are needed to use the device). I think it is possible, maybe it has something to do with a "ROM-Upgrade" or so, as I have seen in a FAQ around here.
My other question is, of course, how to do that, what tools are needed etc.
In short, I need you to provide me the right link to a tutorial since here are so many and I do not know which one to take (and I do not want to screw up the device).
I hope that you can help me, if I accidentally posted this thread in the wrong forums might a moderator please be so kind to move it to the right section and notify me of my fault.
Thanks in advance and greetings from Germany (or Bavaria, to be more exact )
Zuzler
We'll let you off!
Yes, you are in the wrong section... you should be in the 'Diamond ROM development' section, but everyone is allowed one mistake (Except, myself... I have infinite mistake allowance!)
My device was vodafone branded when I got it, and that's the first thing I wanted to get rid of too.
First you need to 'Hard SPL', which unlocks the device so you can flash any ROM you wish. Then just flash your required ROM. I would highly recommend AZTOR's X2 Ultimate. He has the philosophy of keeping the ROM as close to the original stock ROM as possible, only better, stronger, faster... like the bionic man (I'm showing my age now!!).
Everything you need is in this tutorial. I followed it to the letter, and now my device is everything it should be. It's always very nerve racking the first time you flash your device, but what ever happens, there's some sharp wizard in this forum with the knowledge to get you out of the brown stuff... have fun
Hi grahamkdt,
thanks for you reply. I already thought after submitting that it would have been better to post this in the development area. I will contact a Mod immediately to solve that.
Thank you for the recommendation about the ROM, but there is still one problem for me:
Should I upgrade the "Radio" first, since in the tutorial you gave to me it is step B. Or is this just a prerequisite to not breaking anything? Are there also different versions?
Regards,
Zuzler
thread moved
now we are all happy
Wow thanks, I also contacted tnyynt for that
Can't remember...
Zuzler said:
Hi grahamkdt,
thanks for you reply. I already thought after submitting that it would have been better to post this in the development area. I will contact a Mod immediately to solve that.
Thank you for the recommendation about the ROM, but there is still one problem for me:
Should I upgrade the "Radio" first, since in the tutorial you gave to me it is step B. Or is this just a prerequisite to not breaking anything? Are there also different versions?
Regards,
Zuzler
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I can't remember if AZTOR's ROM's include the radio. It might be worth flashing a radio first from here. I use Radio v1.09.25.23 (Quad Band) (52.51.25.26H) - no issues at all.
Or, you could ask AZTOR if radio is included in his ROM's if you're really concerned. Personally I'd just flash one first anyway...
Ok, I will ask him personally (just seen hes from Germany, too - might make some things easier)
Thanks again!

New Desire Owner, Where do I start?

Hi guys,
I just got my Desire and I am interested in rooting it. I would appreciate if someone briefly can tell me what the advantages/disadvantages of rooting.
Also, where do I start with the rooting process?
Thanks so much in advance
Dodolom said:
Hi guys,
I just got my Desire and I am interested in rooting it. I would appreciate if someone briefly can tell me what the advantages/disadvantages of rooting.
Also, where do I start with the rooting process?
Thanks so much in advance
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@Dodolom - welcome
Best place to start reading about the rooting process is in the sticky at the top of this thread. Lots of information by many smart guys, so take your time and read through the lot before doing anything.
Why root? Well by rooting you can install custom ROMs which contain new software or customisations and programs outside of the stuff that HTC chooses to provide in their stock ROMs.
Good luck.
And just a word of advice - have a good read of all the stuff in the forum before asking questions. Will most certainly reduce the risk of you getting flamed
thanks mate.
Also, just run the phone as it is - you may find it does what you want it to do out the box - rooting is only neccessary if something you wish to do isn't available without rooting...
cr1960 said:
@dodolom - welcome
best place to start reading about the rooting process is in the sticky at the top of this thread. Lots of information by many smart guys, so take your time and read through the lot before doing anything.
Why root? Well by rooting you can install custom roms which contain new software or customisations and programs outside of the stuff that htc chooses to provide in their stock roms.
Good luck.
And just a word of advice - have a good read of all the stuff in the forum before asking questions. Will most certainly reduce the risk of you getting flamed
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flame flame flame flame :d
At the moment, I wouldn't say it's very advantageous to root your desire. I rooted my G1 back in the day (only a year or so ago I know ) - but with the Desire, the rooting process still leaves part of the OS locked down, which means you still don't get full control over it.
The only advantage I could see at the moment for rooting the desire would be to get Apps 2 SD. However this is rumoured to be a new feature in Android 2.2 (Froyo) which is due for release within the next month or 2 for Desires. So rather than void your warranty and risk bricking your phone. It might be better to wait for 2.2 and see what you get with that!
i have no idea why everyne doesnt root the desire when they get it... goto modaco.com goto the desire section and follow the r6 riskfree root process and now ou will have a world class phone that you can install app2sd , app2sd+ or app2sd++ nt to mention all the custom roms... good luck
What's the difference between app2sd, app2sd+ and app2sd++ ???
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new to windows phone

im a newbie when i comes to windows phones, ive had blackberry's my whole contract and i figured what the heck ill try one so i found a new one on ebay and when i got it, it looked like it had the sense rom installed, and me being an idiot, put the original rom back on it. how can i put sense back into it? lol
go to the touch pro 2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile Rom development forum and read the Hard-SPL unlocker sticky thread and make sure your device is hard-spl'd, if not then do it. Then read the Flashing your first GSM Rhodium Rom (also a stickied thread) [this is assuming ur device is gsm (at&t or t-mobile)] and go through the roms and flash whichever one you please. NRG's Energy roms seem to be the most popular for the rhodium but its all up to your personal preference.
brad218 said:
im a newbie when i comes to windows phones, ive had blackberry's my whole contract and i figured what the heck ill try one so i found a new one on ebay and when i got it, it looked like it had the sense rom installed, and me being an idiot, put the original rom back on it. how can i put sense back into it? lol
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Wait a minute, you already burned a ROM and you don't know how to burn a new ROM? If you are asking what ROM to burn, take a look at the ROM development forums.
stevedebi said:
Wait a minute, you already burned a ROM and you don't know how to burn a new ROM? If you are asking what ROM to burn, take a look at the ROM development forums.
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I was just about to say that.. if you can put one rom on you can put any rom on (any rom thats compatible with your phone that is)
well the rom i put on was the regular factory rom from htc's website and i found it to be easy cuz it was an .exe file, idk about other roms. whats a good rom for me to use? i was thinking sense but i read it slowed down after alot of txts and emails. im a big txter and i use emails alot so i dont know what to load on my phone. any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. and for the record, im 18yo, and dont know much about this kind of technical stuff.
brad218 said:
well the rom i put on was the regular factory rom from htc's website and i found it to be easy cuz it was an .exe file, idk about other roms. whats a good rom for me to use? i was thinking sense but i read it slowed down after alot of txts and emails. im a big txter and i use emails alot so i dont know what to load on my phone. any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. and for the record, im 18yo, and dont know much about this kind of technical stuff.
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There is an issue with SAVING sms - it slows down the phone a lot. But it should be no problem to view them and then delete the old ones. I use the NRG ROM. But I would go over to the ROM Development section and read up. Start by discovering if the phone has Hard SPL.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490

[Q] guidance please, im new on android

Hey everyone
im a new user on android, the thing is that i bought my new htc desire a day ago, and i found out that it doesnt support arabic, it only shows font but not complete words... i heard that there has been found a solution but on rooted phones, my phone version is 2.2,
i would really like to be guided through this, and for instance what is rooting the phone and CM7 and CM6, i also tried searching and i found cyanogen; the website; a good source if i decided to hack my phone to support arabic,
i also would like to know if i can return my phone to factory settings if i decide to after i hack it ? and how can i backup ?
Do you think that if i install cyanogen would be better than the platform that comes with the phone from htc ?
i also knew that ps1 games and others can work on my phone and it has to do with emulators... which is the best emulator and where to download the games from ?
and any other information u might add that might help me would be great
thanks alot in advance
and sorry, i know the questions are too much
ie : u dont need to answer all questions hehe, any helpful answer to any question would be great
my apprectiations to all of u
Hi
Read and Follow this for a complete guide on how to root to flashing, its pretty simple and this guide will help you a lot and it has videos too to make it more simpler to understand.
If you want to ROOT the guide is here: ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084, or you can follow the steps here: ht tp://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/300866-guide-rooting-unrevoked-windows-updated-20th-may-2011-a.html. This is the tutorial I used to ROOT, and everything worked perfect.
Also before you ROOT be sure to make a Gold Card.
Instructions and download: h t tp://android.modaco.com/content/software/308798/pc-application-goldcardtool/
You can go back to your original STOCK ROM with and original RUU, which you can download from here: http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
Be sure to check your version with the one you download. From Phone go to Settings->About Phone->Software Information and check Baseband Version and Software number.
After you ROOT you can also make a back-up from ClockWorckMod Recovery, which is automatically installed when you ROOT. Also a good back-up application is Titanium Back-up (back-up app, settings etc.).
To run PS1 games you can get FPse app from market.
TO GET THE GAMES IF FORBIDDEN IF YOU DON'T OWN THEM!!!!
Hope this helps you. If you have any more questions post them here.
a great thanks to aamir007 and UsManyDead
but i didnt get wut u mean concerning the games, i downloaded the nintendo emulator and the ps1 as well, after that wut do i do ? do i download the games from the market or from some blogs or wut ???
concerning the root i will do it in a couple of days insha'alla and i will post my questions here if i face any problems, thanks alot mates
and do u personally advice rooting the phone, and is it better than the platform that comes with the phone ? wut do i gain from rooting my phone, for example do i get better performance and such things ?
sorry my questions might look weird but im new user
Hello.
What I meant about games is that you can't ask warez questions here. If you have the apk for android then all you need to do is get the image of the game. This one only you know how and where to get it. GOOGLE.
I think it is good to ROOT your phone since after you root you have a lot more options of what to do with your phone.
To find out what you exactly get after ROOT-ing please read the whole FAQ from here, it explains most of your questions (that you might have): ht tp://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/221212-faq-rooting-updated-2nd-june-2011-a.html
Depends on your needs.
You are currently asking the same questions I asked myself many months ago. Basically, it will all depend on what you want to do with your phone. If it will just be a phone, then there's no need to root it. On the other hand, if you plan to change every single aspect of how your phone looks or behaves, then rooting and "S-OFFing" should be done to it.
Just be prepared for headaches that you might experience. I know there are guides throughout this forum. But not everything will go smoothly. If you do decide to install another ROM, start with a well-tested and stable firmware, then experiment with bleeding-edge ROMs once you become more familiar with troubleshooting.
One more thing: enjoy the adventure! You will love it!
thanks alot guys i really appreciate ur help
honestly co_dominic, im starting to have a headache hehe ! thought it looks quite good
i actually entered to the stock rom ruu website u gave me but i didnt know wut link i should download.. how do i know ??

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