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"Unlimited" Data Caps

I talked to a guy at Sprint today and he said that 3G will still have the 5GB cap but 4G will truly be unlimited.
Can someone confirm?

yup thats how it is
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Not true.
With the $10 mandatory add-on, even 3G becomes unlimited. I have confirmed this from training materials that I've seen. I have also been told this by numerous PR friends.

And in all honesty, who has ever been told be Sprint that they need to stop going over their 5GB limit without going WAY over month street month? I think its only purpose is to serve as a legal loophole to limit people going crazy with their data. That's why no one pays overages.
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I talked to a guy at Sprint today and he said that 3G will still have the 5GB cap but 4G will truly be unlimited.
Can someone confirm?
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I would not give it any thought I use over 12 gigs of data a month and they have never said anything

There has never been a 5GB cap for data on phones. It's only on aircards/usb modems.

For any of the Sprint Everthing plans that include 'Unlimited Data' it has a technical cap at 5GB. However, this is as said above a legal loop hole so Sprint can stop you if you are using way too much. The chances of you getting in trouble by using 6GB is almost 0. I haven't found anyone yet who have been charged over for it.
As for the training material, it probably did say 'Unlimited' however Sprint calls the plan 'Everything Plan with Unlimited Data'. But look into the fine print and you will see the 5GB cap. I have to pay a mandatory $10 for Data with my Pre and I still technically have a cap.
So the Evo will have no technical loop hole for 4G, no cap at all. However, 3G will have a cap of 5GB that any one can go over and not get in trouble.

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TheBiles said:
And in all honesty, who has ever been told be Sprint that they need to stop going over their 5GB limit without going WAY over month street month? I think its only purpose is to serve as a legal loophole to limit people going crazy with their data. That's why no one pays overages.
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Month street month mean?

Phones don't have a 5gb cap. Just aircards.
http://shop.sprint.com/NASApp/onlinestore/en/Action/SubmitCoverageMessage
everything data has no cap, mobile broadband does.

hokansoc said:
Phones don't have a 5gb cap. Just aircards.
http://shop.sprint.com/NASApp/onlinestore/en/Action/SubmitCoverageMessage
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that link takes me to an empty shopping cart message.
I think I read on engadget not too long ago that the 3g and 4g were unlimited on the evo.

I've been under the impression that there is only a 5gb cap for wifi hotspot on 3G...

So It's been established that there is NO cap on GB transfered on evo, thethering 3G and 4G means truly unlimited correct guys ?

correct, on phone usage there is no cap, with a data device (non phone) there is a cap
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Yup.. confirmed over and over... with regards to the EVO there are NO caps.
Only air cards have a 5gb limit
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Thank you guys. I much appriciate it!!!!!!

[Q] Switching Carriers (50$ T.mob Pre Q)

Hello T989 fans..
i am planning on switching my prepaid carrier to t mobile prepaid i currently have simple mobile and there is nothing simple about it...
any way i was looking at the 50$ plan they have unlimited talk text and web
the Q is they advertise First 100MB at up to 4G speeds do they slow u down to 2g or 3g.. i chatted with represistive and said to 3g i have a hunch that he is lying or doesn't know...
any help will be appreciated.
Ps.."Live long and prosper"

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Lt.Tealc said:
Hello T989 fans..
i am planning on switching my prepaid carrier to t mobile prepaid i currently have simple mobile and there is nothing simple about it...
any way i was looking at the 50$ plan they have unlimited talk text and web
the Q is they advertise First 100MB at up to 4G speeds do they slow u down to 2g or 3g.. i chatted with represistive and said to 3g i have a hunch that he is lying or doesn't know...
any help will be appreciated.
Ps.."Live long and prosper"
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At $50 a month why don't you look into Tmobile's Value plans? With the Value Plan you have to have your own phone (buy on Ebay,craigs, etc) or buy your own phone (full price at Tmobile), or finance the phone for 20 monthly payments (from Tmobile). You have to get a two year contract also with a $200 ETF.
First 100MB at 4G seems like a joke. I get 2GB at 4G and then its edge speed after that. I am currently paying 49.99 for 500 mins, unlimited text, 2GB data, nights/wknds, and free wifi calling which doesnt use up your airtime mins.

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i am gonna consider this thanks hopefully tmobile wont patch that anytime soon

grenademasta said:
At $50 a month why don't you look into Tmobile's Value plans? With the Value Plan you have to have your own phone (buy on Ebay,craigs, etc) or buy your own phone (full price at Tmobile), or finance the phone for 20 monthly payments (from Tmobile). You have to get a two year contract also with a $200 ETF.
First 100MB at 4G seems like a joke. I get 2GB at 4G and then its edge speed after that. I am currently paying 49.99 for 500 mins, unlimited text, 2GB data, nights/wknds, and free wifi calling which doesnt use up your airtime mins.
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i paid full price for the GS2, the reason i want prepaid cause it,s flexible u can cancel it anytime u want... value plan are nice i just dont like month to month bills headaches"""" i am used to prepaid and i love it.. thanks for the input i will consider your advice

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Wont work on prepaid plans. I tried.
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^^^ Good to know. Thank you.

Why not just stay with simple unlimited talk text and 2 gig isn't bad I went to the 30 dollar 5gig plan with T-Mobile prepay but it's only 100 mins so I'm using my Google voice and groove ip to make calls over my data not a bad gig I think, only thing different from simple is u get a little more features on tmobile like u can add like caller tunes and customer service is better on the non simple mobile side of things my experience with simple was not a bad one I'm just a poor boy trying to save money haha
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funziebear said:
Why not just stay with simple unlimited talk text and 2 gig isn't bad I went to the 30 dollar 5gig plan with T-Mobile prepay but it's only 100 mins so I'm using my Google voice and groove ip to make calls over my data not a bad gig I think, only thing different from simple is u get a little more features on tmobile like u can add like caller tunes and customer service is better on the non simple mobile side of things my experience with simple was not a bad one I'm just a poor boy trying to save money haha
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simple mobile started great not till they introduced the 4g 60$ plan.. since then my 40$ plan was capped at 119K that,s worst than edge i did not even reach the limit at all. my brother activated brand new account same thing and i got tire of waiting 30 on the line to speak with someone who will blame your phone for it they fixed the speed once by resetting the date on their side but at the begging of every cycle it goes back to 119K it,s just awful to advertise unlimited 3g and not even give 3g speed... the 30$ deal is very tempting... but when u make calls using data doesn't it take bandwidth

The other thing to remember with Simple Mobile, is it rides TMO towers, BUT, you will be a "Second Class Citizen", TMO customers will always get priority data/calls over SM customers, so even when you are on EDGE, you are at the end of the line ...

funziebear said:
Why not just stay with simple unlimited talk text and 2 gig isn't bad I went to the 30 dollar 5gig plan with T-Mobile prepay but it's only 100 mins so I'm using my Google voice and groove ip to make calls over my data not a bad gig I think, only thing different from simple is u get a little more features on tmobile like u can add like caller tunes and customer service is better on the non simple mobile side of things my experience with simple was not a bad one I'm just a poor boy trying to save money haha
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This is exactly what I need. I work offshore and sometimes I don't even use my phone in weeks but I also need it because is an "on call" job.
So you can call and receive from mobile phones free with just data?How reliable is this set up? can you easily change to use you T-mobile minutes?

Lt.Tealc said:
simple mobile started great not till they introduced the 4g 60$ plan.. since then my 40$ plan was capped at 119K that,s worst than edge i did not even reach the limit at all. my brother activated brand new account same thing and i got tire of waiting 30 on the line to speak with someone who will blame your phone for it they fixed the speed once by resetting the date on their side but at the begging of every cycle it goes back to 119K it,s just awful to advertise unlimited 3g and not even give 3g speed... the 30$ deal is very tempting... but when u make calls using data doesn't it take bandwidth
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Yeah it does not so much tho plus I use Wi-Fi at home so it's less noticeable
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i have the 5gb plan, its 20... it was a promo a long time ago... =) but even that i use up most the time =(

Get the $60 prepaid on tmo u get 2gb of data text n talk...$10 more its worth it ...if u Rly want u can also get the $70 prepaid u get 5gb of data text n web
Also not many ppl no but Walmart and Tmoible online only has a sick plan ..its prepaid $30 a month unlimited data(no cap..go crazy) n text n I think its about 100 mins ...some ppl don't even Rly talk on there fone n just text n use web if so look at that plan...
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The walmart plan is caped at 5gigs
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linye said:
This is exactly what I need. I work offshore and sometimes I don't even use my phone in weeks but I also need it because is an "on call" job.
So you can call and receive from mobile phones free with just data?How reliable is this set up? can you easily change to use you T-mobile minutes?
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Ive been using a week now its not to bad and yea u can make calls free of minutes on data or wifi i use my googlw voixe number tho no biggie if ur saving 30-40 bucks
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mightymike889 said:
Get the $60 prepaid on tmo u get 2gb of data text n talk...$10 more its worth it ...if u Rly want u can also get the $70 prepaid u get 5gb of data text n web
Also not many ppl no but Walmart and Tmoible online only has a sick plan ..its prepaid $30 a month unlimited data(no cap..go crazy) n text n I think its about 100 mins ...some ppl don't even Rly talk on there fone n just text n use web if so look at that plan...
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It's capped at 5gb, also not that hard to get as i have that atm. I don't really call that much but if i run out of mins i just open groove ip, and people can call my google number. if you need a free sim search for walgreens deal. I got a $50 refill card + the phone with sim(nokia) for $40 somehow!

Unlimited minutes, text, data (2GB) = $60 + $1 and tax.

T-Mobile customer question

Hey guys I have T-Mobile and I'm on a prepaid plan. What is the difference between classic plans and value plans? Also, can you do "truly unlimited" on prepaid or is that only for customers with a contract. Thanks guys!
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"Truly Unlimited" is currently contract only. "Technically Unlimited" is what you get on prepaid (throttled after you reach your cap).
Every carrier offering unlimited data except for tmo's new plan has a loophole to get out of providing you with unlimited data. Tmo cap's your speed after a certain point, but still gives you data. Simple mobile never limits your data, but will cap your speed if you put too much strain on their network (aka constant streaming, lots of bandwidth usage).

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"Truly Unlimited" is currently contract only. "Technically Unlimited" is what you get on prepaid (throttled after you reach your cap).
Every carrier offering unlimited data except for tmo's new plan has a loophole to get out of providing you with unlimited data. Tmo cap's your speed after a certain point, but still gives you data. Simple mobile never limits your data, but will cap your speed if you put too much strain on their network (aka constant streaming, lots of bandwidth usage).
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That is not true. T-mobile now has their truly unlimited unthrottled data plan. Started about 2 weeks ago. Not sure if you can do it on prepaid..

lowandbehold said:
That is not true. T-mobile now has their truly unlimited unthrottled data plan. Started about 2 weeks ago. Not sure if you can do it on prepaid..
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That's what jordanisher said. Truly unlimited is currently contract only. Unlimited but throttled for prepaid and contracts that don't want to switch to the new plan. Although there are rumors of truly unlimited going to prepaid.
The difference between classic and value is that classic gives you a free/low priced phone but higher monthly charges. Value has no free phone but lower monthly charges. With value, you can opt to get a phone at full price and pay via monthly installment that would reflect on you monthly bill.

mikehunt22 said:
Hey guys I have T-Mobile and I'm on a prepaid plan. What is the difference between classic plans and value plans? Also, can you do "truly unlimited" on prepaid or is that only for customers with a contract. Thanks guys!
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Value Plans don't offer a device subsidy. Classic Plans do. They're both 2-year contracts.
Truly Unlimited Data isn't available on prepaid. 5GB throttle point is the best you can get.

Thanks guys appreciate it!
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And since there are folks responding who know T-Mobile's plans better than me, I'm currently prepaid with a 5 GB cap. I now use my Nexus 7 all the time, and everyone I've asked so far suggests that tethering my Nexus 7 to my Galaxy Nexus wouldn't be allowed if I switched to a value plan and got the unlimited data.
I've been hesitant to make any switch since I currently tether my Nexus 7 on my current plan and that seems to be allowed, but I'm concerned that if I switch, and I'm somehow detected tethering, that I'll be in a worse position than I am now.
Is tethering a restriction on everything, or in the case of a tablet like the Nexus 7 is there some allowance? Secondly, how is this being detected and/or enforced? Finally, if I were to switch, it seemed as though the penalty was pretty harsh. If I started using more than 5 GB on the unlimited data plan, can't T-Mobile flag me as an excessive data user and take away all my data? When does one become an excessive data user?
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Chinpokomon said:
And since there are folks responding who know T-Mobile's plans better than me, I'm currently prepaid with a 5 GB cap. I now use my Nexus 7 all the time, and everyone I've asked so far suggests that tethering my Nexus 7 to my Galaxy Nexus wouldn't be allowed if I switched to a value plan and got the unlimited data.
I've been hesitant to make any switch since I currently tether my Nexus 7 on my current plan and that seems to be allowed, but I'm concerned that if I switch, and I'm somehow detected tethering, that I'll be in a worse position than I am now.
Is tethering a restriction on everything, or in the case of a tablet like the Nexus 7 is there some allowance? Secondly, how is this being detected and/or enforced? Finally, if I were to switch, it seemed as though the penalty was pretty harsh. If I started using more than 5 GB on the unlimited data plan, can't T-Mobile flag me as an excessive data user and take away all my data? When does one become an excessive data user?
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They can't do anything to stop tethering on the Value Plan that they can't already do on your current Prepaid plan.

For post paid, you have 4 options for data (not including the 200mb one, which we know you wont use). 1) Unlimited data, no caps but also no tethering ( supposed to be a workaround, but it does not work for all), Then you have your Unlimited with 2gb cap, Unlimited with 5gb includes hotspot, and unlimited 10gb which also includes hotspot. SO, if you get close or hit 5gb, bump up to 10 before the billing cycle ends.

Chinpokomon said:
And since there are folks responding who know T-Mobile's plans better than me, I'm currently prepaid with a 5 GB cap. I now use my Nexus 7 all the time, and everyone I've asked so far suggests that tethering my Nexus 7 to my Galaxy Nexus wouldn't be allowed if I switched to a value plan and got the unlimited data.
I've been hesitant to make any switch since I currently tether my Nexus 7 on my current plan and that seems to be allowed, but I'm concerned that if I switch, and I'm somehow detected tethering, that I'll be in a worse position than I am now.
Is tethering a restriction on everything, or in the case of a tablet like the Nexus 7 is there some allowance? Secondly, how is this being detected and/or enforced? Finally, if I were to switch, it seemed as though the penalty was pretty harsh. If I started using more than 5 GB on the unlimited data plan, can't T-Mobile flag me as an excessive data user and take away all my data? When does one become an excessive data user?
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Are you tethering right now? Are you paying the extra tethering fee every month to TMo? The "no tethering clause" for truly unlimited simply means you are no longer allowed to pay a monthly fee to tether. If you have been tethering and not paying the tethering fee (and getting away with it), it'd be the same as getting away with tethering on the truly unlimited plan
To put it simply: you are not allowed to tether on ALL TMo plans unless you pay the mobile hotspot/tethering fee. Tethering without paying is no different from tethering on the truly unlimited plan

Can you tether with prepaid?

I suspect that people getting away with tethering on a prepaid plan are doing so simply because the max 4G cap is 5GB and T-Mobile really doesn't care or bother to monitor those accounts. I would think if you switch to an unlimited 4G plan they will automatically monitor the data usage.

Wish my contract with AT&T was up or I'd switch to this asap.
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harveydent said:
Are you tethering right now? Are you paying the extra tethering fee every month to TMo? ... If you have been tethering and not paying the tethering fee (and getting away with it), it'd be the same as getting away with tethering on the truly unlimited plan...
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Interesting. No, I haven't been paying for any extra service, but I've also been very conservative with my data usage. I guess that because my tethering usage has been so low, that I've sort of come in under the radar.
My intent was to switch to the unlimited data plan, and then to use my devices for streaming Netflix, Pandora, Spotify, etc. It doesn't look like that is going to work for me after all.
Thanks for the insight.
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Chinpokomon said:
Interesting. No, I haven't been paying for any extra service, but I've also been very conservative with my data usage. I guess that because my tethering usage has been so low, that I've sort of come in under the radar.
My intent was to switch to the unlimited data plan, and then to use my devices for streaming Netflix, Pandora, Spotify, etc. It doesn't look like that is going to work for me after all.
Thanks for the insight.
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I feel it is similiar to how AT&T's capped plans work, as long as you don't go overboard on the data (I assume it means 5GB), they don't care. If you're over 5GB and you're tethering, well...
I tether all the time on my atrix with the offical tethering (disabled the check of course), and AT&T hasn't complained. My data is never above 1.4GB anyways.

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yeah either the use it and not pay extra or its 15 bucks a month to add it to monthly 4G plans
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Mgamerz said:
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Yes simply because you have a Nexus and they don't have special software/firmware on your device to straight up block it.
T-Mobile has historically monitored people's browser UAstrings in order to "catch" tethering. They've started to shy off of this a bit now though because they're selling branded T-Mobile devices that have Chrome available or preinstalled on them, which identifies the same as desktop Chrome. I'm not really sure what their plan will be for the future of tethering, but know that you'll always have a pretty good chance of tethering on a Nexus...

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Yes simply because you have a Nexus and they don't have special software/firmware on your device to straight up block it.
T-Mobile has historically monitored people's browser UAstrings in order to "catch" tethering. They've started to shy off of this a bit now though because they're selling branded T-Mobile devices that have Chrome available or preinstalled on them, which identifies the same as desktop Chrome. I'm not really sure what their plan will be for the future of tethering, but know that you'll always have a pretty good chance of tethering on a Nexus...
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Chrome's UA is different otherwise there would be no need for the desktop checkbox.
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Mgamerz said:
Chrome's UA is different otherwise there would be no need for the desktop checkbox.
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The UAstring identifies as Chrome Desktop by default.

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The UAstring identifies as Chrome Desktop by default.
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Why does my chrome for android get me mobile sites then? Its not IP based since the check box won't change that.
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[Q] Extremely odd behavior.............

So of course like many people with a GS2 on here I decided I wanted to tether but these last of couple of days have been very odd.
My tethering is no longer blocked for some strange reason and I am free to use tethering as I please this was not the case before.
How is this possible that the stock tethering on CM9.1 has failed all this time yet now it magically works I installed many steam updates and did about 20 speedtests to cause it to fail or disconnect me. It did neither. So I would like to know if this is an isolated incident or not,

Change data plans? I called and asked why the unlimited plan with no throttling costs 5$ less than the 5gb cap plan. Lady told me the throttled plan comes with tethering while truly unlimited plan does not.
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It shouldn't work.
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Change data plans? I called and asked why the unlimited plan with no throttling costs 5$ less than the 5gb cap plan. Lady told me the throttled plan comes with tethering while truly unlimited plan does not.
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I have truly unlimited data the plan that tethering should not be allowed in.

New Simple Plan with free Hotspot

T Mobile changed the old Value Plan and now offer the Simple Plan. Instead of the old plan of 2gb of data it's 2.5 gb of data and you get the Hotspot feature for free. I just switched my Value Plan over to the new plan without having to extend my contract or pay to switch my two lines over to the new plan. I like that the Hotspot is now included for free.
I asked about the Jump program and the way it was explained you have to purchase a new phone with an EIP and pay $10 a month which also includes insurance (slightly cheaper than the current insurance premium). Then you can choose to upgrade twice a year but each time you upgrade you have to make the down payment on the new device and if your old device passes their inspection they wipe out the remaining balance of your EIP plan and start a new one for the new device. The only benefit I see is cheaper insurance. I would rather buy mine outright and sell the old.
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Somehow when I was switching plans a month or two ago, I got 4.5GB with hotspot included for $20. What's the price of this 2.5 + HS?
Interestingly, when I check my account status on the phone using the My Account app, I see no limit listed for my high speed data allotment. My other 4 lines all have their correct high speed data allotments listed. I used to be on an old, truly unlimited high speed plan for $20. I gave that up for HS w/o having to hack or spoof. It might not have provisioned down to 4.5GB but added HS.

ytj87 said:
Somehow when I was switching plans a month or two ago, I got 4.5GB with hotspot included for $20. What's the price of this 2.5 + HS?
Interestingly, when I check my account status on the phone using the My Account app, I see no limit listed for my high speed data allotment. My other 4 lines all have their correct high speed data allotments listed. I used to be on an old, truly unlimited high speed plan for $20. I gave that up for HS w/o having to hack or spoof. It might not have provisioned down to 4.5GB but added HS.
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2.5 gb with Hotspot is $10 and unlimited data, no cap is $20 with Hotspot.
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That is honest to goodness no cap, download 200GB and T-Mo won't put you on a list type of no cap?

They say no cap, I asked ic I use 500 gb of data would I be throttled and I was told no.
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Rhiannon224 said:
2.5 gb with Hotspot is $10 and unlimited data, no cap is $20 with Hotspot.
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This is false, the 20 dollar is unlimited data(no cap) but only 500mb of tethering data.
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I didn't say Hotspot was unlimited, I don't use it anyway but it would be nice to be unlimited.
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ebatr8 said:
This is false, the 20 dollar is unlimited data(no cap) but only 500mb of tethering data.
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Hmm. I believe I'm on 4.5 + hotspot. I'm at well over 1.5GB via hotspot now, 8 days into my cycle. I switched to this plan about 2 months ago.