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Data needs to shape up,

I've had my g2 for about 4 months now and I'm quite happy with it. Rooted with perm s-off, running about 4 different roms, blahblahblah. I have the full data plan for my phone, and I've used it passed the data cap through all my billing cycles so far.
However, I live in hawaii. The data here is unbearably slow. Using speedtest, I see people with scores of 4mb down and 1mb up.
I average ALMOST 0.3mb down 0.9mb up. that's with 3g on, if you couldn't guess.
I've already tried flashing different radios for my phone, but it only minamally increases my data speed for a huge increase in battery consumption.
Am I stuck here, to wander a 2g world with my almost-but-not-really-4g phone? Help me out if you'd care to lend a hand, I'm kind of sick of seeing the buffer icon permanently on youtube.
Toodles.
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The phone is 4g. That doesn't mean your area has it though. Have you bothered to call you service provider to make sure you are connected to the proper tower? I had data speeds like yours but found my phone was trying to connect to a tower in a completely different city.
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Spastic909 said:
The phone is 4g. That doesn't mean your area has it though. Have you bothered to call you service provider to make sure you are connected to the proper tower? I had data speeds like yours but found my phone was trying to connect to a tower in a completely different city.
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There's kind of no tower in, around, or relatively close to hawaii. The closest tower is in L.A I believe, which is the one I'm connected to. So no matter where I go on the island, the signal stays around there.
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You're not getting 2G speeds. 2G speeds is edge which is at BEST and THEORETICALLY a little under 250 kbps. You're doing decent for 3G. If it was a 4G connection you'd see "H" instead of "3G".

ohshootrawr said:
There's kind of no tower in, around, or relatively close to hawaii. The closest tower is in L.A I believe, which is the one I'm connected to. So no matter where I go on the island, the signal stays around there.
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That doesn't seem possible. there has to be some sort of cell towers on one of the islands there. Carriers use each others towers at times to. I know the internet out there can get screwy at times so I understand your frustrations...write your local congress person lol
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Spastic909 said:
That doesn't seem possible. there has to be some sort of cell towers on one of the islands
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You're right, the OP can't possibly be correct about there being no cell towers in Hawaii. The max range of a GSM tower is about 22 miles in the best of conditions, and almost always much less. Towers have to be placed as close as 1/2 mile apart in some terrain or urban conditions. 1 to 2 miles apart is average in many conditions.
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jouva said:
You're not getting 2G speeds. 2G speeds is edge which is at BEST and THEORETICALLY a little under 250 kbps. You're doing decent for 3G. If it was a 4G connection you'd see "H" instead of "3G".
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I actually do have the H. I wouldn't be bugging out so much if I was running speedtest with only 3g xD
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ohshootrawr said:
I actually do have the H. I wouldn't be bugging out so much if I was running speedtest with only 3g xD
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Is your phone rooted? If not, it's gonna show H no matter if you are on 3G of HSPA+.

tazz9690 said:
Is your phone rooted? If not, it's gonna show H no matter if you are on 3G of HSPA+.
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I'm rooted sir.
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I'm rooted sir.
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Even if you're rooted, that symbol will not show unless you've got a theme or rom that is set to show HSPA+ in the status bar.
Download mobile signal widget, it will tell you whether or not you are actually on HSPA+.

captainreynolds said:
Even if you're rooted, that symbol will not show unless you've got a theme or rom that is set to show HSPA+ in the status bar.
Download mobile signal widget, it will tell you whether or not you are actually on HSPA+.
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I'm running the Ultimate Droid, CM7, LiquidMetal, MT4G, and MIUI roms on my phone. All of them shows hspa in the status bar. Except for miui, but miui is weird. Haha. The widget said I'm connected to hspa+.
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Tmobile Lg Nitro 3g/HSDPA Possible?

So i was walking along the road and then when i looked at my phone i saw a H above my signal bar and i screenshotted it. It switched between H and E, then 3g also appeared, but i couldnt get a shot of it because it disappeared quickly.
so now im wondering is 3g/hsdpa possible on a lg nitro using a tmobile sim because when i look around the forums people said only edge is available.

It's possible that you were roaming onto the AT&T network due to getting no T-Mobile signal for a brief period of time. The phone won't be able to get 3G on T-Mobile's network though.

It works!
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It's possible that you were roaming onto the AT&T network due to getting no T-Mobile signal for a brief period of time. The phone won't be able to get 3G on T-Mobile's network though.
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Sorry forgot to update ya'll
I flashed back to stock ICS but now have whatever baseband you get by following the unbricking procedure and now I get Tmobile HSPA+ "4G".

Is it possible u live in an area where tmobile is rolling out there 1900mhz hspa?
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snoopy1e11 said:
Is it possible u live in an area where tmobile is rolling out there 1900mhz hspa?
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That has to be why. The Nitro definitely doesnt support AWS bands for 3G/4G.

Just wanted to issue in case anyone wanted to save some money. I live in Kansas city and just started Wal-Mart family mobile service and I am getting 3g and hspa signal on my unlocked att p930. That being said, it does look like the data speed itself is throttled to 1mb/s up and down. I'm wondering if it's possible to change that by messing with the apn...
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You definitley were in an area with 1900 band being utilized. It's been rolling out around Annapolis MD and Alexandria VA areas. Love it!
10mbps down.,

here is the map
http://www.airportal.de/

Yes it appears that it's deployed throughout Kansas city and even about an 80 mile plus radius of the city. My device picks it up but family mobile have the speeds throttled down to .9mbps up/down no matter what. Very frustrating seeing the H symbol and not being able to break 1mbps anyone have any ideas?
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Hutch89 said:
Yes it appears that it's deployed throughout Kansas city and even about an 80 mile plus radius of the city. My device picks it up but family mobile have the speeds throttled down to .9mbps up/down no matter what. Very frustrating seeing the H symbol and not being able to break 1mbps anyone have any ideas?
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Leave the proxy blank. For some reason the proxy.mvmo.tracphone.com limits data to 1MB.
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No dice I'm using a tmobile apn with proxy blank, hipri connection and all.
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Hutch89 said:
No dice I'm using a tmobile apn with proxy blank, hipri connection and all.
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OK I thought it was worth a shot. It was a problem with straight talk and thought it might also work thinking it might be a Nitro issue.
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how turn of 4g

how do you guys turn off 4g

Both the battery working so good and long I would ask you this:
Why?
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just wanna test 3g of tmobile
i do have unlimited 4g

mrej201 said:
just wanna test 3g of tmobile
i do have unlimited 4g
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4G and 3G are not actually different for Tmobile.
Wikipedia article on Evolved HSPA
So then, the question is how to turn off DC hspa. Which is probably not accessible through the maintenance menus.
But for many real world value metrics I don't know what you would gain.

Get the app called phone info
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I think there's an app for that. I forgot what its called but I think the toggles are Edge or HSPA+ umts only
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Phone info
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I'm wondering if the OP came from Sprint? Sprint's 4G was a separate (battery sucking) radio that you could turn on and off and needed to in order to protect the battery usage.

4g on TMo isn't like LTE, it's not a separate modem to turn off like AT&T, VZW, or sprint. It's really a hopped up version of 3G. Your choices are 3G/4G or Edge.

mrchris1234 said:
I'm wondering if the OP came from Sprint? Sprint's 4G was a separate (battery sucking) radio that you could turn on and off and needed to in order to protect the battery usage.
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yea i did came from sprint that y i ask but thanx for the app guys

I occasionally see a G. Not sure what that is...
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DarthPiggie said:
I occasionally see a G. Not sure what that is...
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That is the 2G service.
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mrej201 said:
yea i did came from sprint that y i ask but thanx for the app guys
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On T-Mobile, there is no real differentiation between 3G and 4G. Both operate on the same spectrum. The only difference is the speeds. However, that is controlled, not by your phone, but by the tower you're connected to. It's easier to look at it as the same exact technology. For the purpose of this conversation, there is no more T-Mobile 3G. It's all 4G, or HSPA+, service now. The 3G brand has been retired in favor of the 4G moniker.
To put it all simply, 3G is the same as 4G on T-Mobile. To turn off 4G, you would drop down to 2G, or EDGE/GPRS, service.

cajunflavoredbob said:
On T-Mobile, there is no real differentiation between 3G and 4G. Both operate on the same spectrum. The only difference is the speeds. However, that is controlled, not by your phone, but by the tower you're connected to. It's easier to look at it as the same exact technology. For the purpose of this conversation, there is no more T-Mobile 3G. It's all 4G, or HSPA+, service now. The 3G brand has been retired in favor of the 4G moniker.
To put it all simply, 3G is the same as 4G on T-Mobile. To turn off 4G, you would drop down to 2G, or EDGE/GPRS, service.
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And if you still want to do it.....go to settings - more settings - mobile networks - network mode and you can select "GSM only".
Strangely enough....there are a couple areas around where i live that my phone will show a 4G connection and absolutely refuses to open anything. I've found that if i switch to the "GSM only" option in those areas that at least i can get it working... slowly, but better than nothing.
Had the same issue with my previous phone. (G2) weird phantom 4G zone. :-/
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Why does my tmobile data and connection speed suck so bad?

I live in Hesperia, CA. Tmobile 4g network blows here. I just did a speed test and the testing app showed I had a 3g connection while the status bar icon showed it as 4g(screenie added) what's up with that is tmo lying to me? Saying I'm connected to 4g when I'm actually not... I never get above 200kbps during the day, at night I can get 1500kbps but that sucks too. I'm getting so frustrated I switched from metro and their network was better. I got 2500kbps from them.
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Wanted to add a speedtest screenie also.
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Flash a different modem bro.
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I guess you can go to the extreme of saying tmobile is lying to you, but in reality no they're not. "4g" just shows when data activity is happening. You are barely over edge speeds though. I would say try different radios and such and look at the map from this post and play around to see which will help you specifically. In the mean time put your phone to edge only so you stop wasting battery lol. [Baseband] ALL T999(V) Modems! w/ MAP and Data Tweaks!

mt3g said:
I guess you can go to the extreme of saying tmobile is lying to you
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They are misleading intentionally.

Start a big download and go to the dialer, input *#0011#. Take note of the band you are on (2 or 4) and which items have a 1 on them out of HSPA and HSDPA. If you are on band 2 and see a one next to either of those options, you can try forcing 1700 by using *#2263# and choosing it under WCDMA. This will cause you to lose service if you have poor 1700 coverage, particularly for voice calls but you can always set it back by going back to the main 2263 menu and hitting automatic.
If those don't work or you see zeroes have you gone into phone status to see if you have an IMEI? Because that will lock you to UMTS. Shortcut to find out - *#06#
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EtherealRemnant said:
Start a big download and go to the dialer, input *#0011#. Take note of the band you are on (2 or 4) and which items have a 1 on them out of HSPA and HSDPA. If you are on band 2 and see a one next to either of those options, you can try forcing 1700 by using *#2263# and choosing it under WCDMA. This will cause you to lose service if you have poor 1700 coverage, particularly for voice calls but you can always set it back by going back to the main 2263 menu and hitting automatic.
If those don't work or you see zeroes have you gone into phone status to see if you have an IMEI? Because that will lock you to UMTS. Shortcut to find out - *#06#
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I've tried this using *#0011# and I get an error. I put *#06# and it showed my IMEI yet I was unable to still use those two codes.
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jordeeeezy said:
I've tried this using *#0011# and I get an error. I put *#06# and it showed my IMEI yet I was unable to still use those two codes.
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I was assuming that you were on a TouchWiz ROM (these codes only work on the Samsung dialer) based on the fact that you had a 4G icon up there - if you're not on stock, there's not an easy way to troubleshoot. If you are on stock, you have to use the built in dialer, not a third party app.
Its worth the time to go to a TW ROM to try to troubleshoot it but if your IMEI came up fine then its less worth the hassle. Wish I could help you out more but it looks like you might be in a highly congested area on the network :/

EtherealRemnant said:
I was assuming that you were on a TouchWiz ROM (these codes only work on the Samsung dialer) based on the fact that you had a 4G icon up there - if you're not on stock, there's not an easy way to troubleshoot. If you are on stock, you have to use the built in dialer, not a third party app.
Its worth the time to go to a TW ROM to try to troubleshoot it but if your IMEI came up fine then its less worth the hassle. Wish I could help you out more but it looks like you might be in a highly congested area on the network :/
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my apologies. i was on liquidsmooth with uvmd5 and didnt understand why my download speeds were so slow so i wanted to check what this was all about. im currently switching between uvlja and uvli8 to see which modem works best in my area.

I was on uvlja when I started having the issues so I upgraded to uvmd5 and I am still having the problems. I'm not so sure anymore that the modems are the problem. I'm running DarthstalkerX2 I've been using these roms for quite a while but I've only been experiencing these issues for a couple of months.
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This is weird....
Evertime I try to post in the general thread, it shows up here!
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Figured it out...

I'm in the Fresno, CA area, and I've been running the UVDM5 modem for a few days. I noticed it has much slower upload speeds, while downloads are a little bit lower compared to the UVLJA

Ok everyone tmobile finally admitted to me that I am in a HORRIBLY BAD congested area of their network. No ETA on a fix either. I was given the option to return the phone cancel service and move on at no extra charge. I have until the 27th to make my decision. What should I do. Stay or go?
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racinmason001 said:
Ok everyone tmobile finally admitted to me that I am in a HORRIBLY BAD congested area of their network. No ETA on a fix either. I was given the option to return the phone cancel service and move on at no extra charge. I have until the 27th to make my decision. What should I do. Stay or go?
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If they are admitting it then it must be *REALLY* bad... If data speeds are more important than pricing to you, I say jump ship.

racinmason001 said:
Ok everyone tmobile finally admitted to me that I am in a HORRIBLY BAD congested area of their network. No ETA on a fix either. I was given the option to return the phone cancel service and move on at no extra charge. I have until the 27th to make my decision. What should I do. Stay or go?
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Wow! that is a rare thing indeed! Good luck on whatever you decide!
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racinmason001 said:
I live in Hesperia, CA. Tmobile 4g network blows here. I just did a speed test and the testing app showed I had a 3g connection while the status bar icon showed it as 4g(screenie added) what's up with that is tmo lying to me? Saying I'm connected to 4g when I'm actually not... I never get above 200kbps during the day, at night I can get 1500kbps but that sucks too. I'm getting so frustrated I switched from metro and their network was better. I got 2500kbps from them.
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T-Mo is not lying. You're still on their 4G network, but as someone mentioned, it's probably congested. Additionally, for most areas, T-Mo's 3G and 4G network is the exact same technology. If you're paying for the 4G service, they take the "speed limiter" off. Simple as that. Most likely a bad area of Cali for T-Mobile.
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T-Mo is not lying. You're still on their 4G network, but as someone mentioned, it's probably congested. Additionally, for most areas, T-Mo's 3G and 4G network is the exact same technology. If you're paying for the 4G service, they take the "speed limiter" off. Simple as that. Most likely a bad area of Cali for T-Mobile.
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I'd like to see your sources for this because 3G UMTS, 3.5G HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+, and true 4G LTE are all different technologies. UMTS maxes out at 384Kbps, HSDPA ranges from 7 to 21Mbps, HSPA+ is up to 21Mbps but includes HSUPA for up to 5.76Mbps upload, and DC-HSPA+ is up to 42Mbps on the downlink with the same 5.76Mbps upload of standard HSPA+. 4G LTE can exceed 100Mbps.
While its true that they all operate off of wideband CDMA technology, they are NOT the same and require tower upgrades... T-Mobile does not discriminate based on your data plan. They discriminate based on your data usage compared to the plan you purchased and throttle you when you exceed what you paid for. Plain and simple.
Get your facts straight before you spout off nonsense.
EDIT: I am not aware if T-Mobile has deployed pico cells for UMTS anywhere but if they have, UMTS can go up to 2Mbps on a pico cell.

EtherealRemnant said:
I'd like to see your sources for this because 3G UMTS, 3.5G HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+, and true 4G LTE are all different technologies. UMTS maxes out at 384Kbps, HSDPA ranges from 7 to 21Mbps, HSPA+ is up to 21Mbps but includes HSUPA for up to 5.76Mbps upload, and DC-HSPA+ is up to 42Mbps on the downlink with the same 5.76Mbps upload of standard HSPA+. 4G LTE can exceed 100Mbps.
While its true that they all operate off of wideband CDMA technology, they are NOT the same and require tower upgrades... T-Mobile does not discriminate based on your data plan. They discriminate based on your data usage compared to the plan you purchased and throttle you when you exceed what you paid for. Plain and simple.
Get your facts straight before you spout off nonsense.
EDIT: I am not aware if T-Mobile has deployed pico cells for UMTS anywhere but if they have, UMTS can go up to 2Mbps on a pico cell.
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And, you're getting mad... for what? You need to chill. I have no idea why people get such superior attitudes when they correct someone.
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Don_Perrignon said:
And, you're getting mad... for what? You need to chill. I have no idea why people get such superior attitudes when they correct someone.
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Who said I was getting mad? You would know if I was. I'm just blunt.

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Who said I was getting mad? You would know if I was. I'm just blunt.
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And, honest about your misplaced superiority complex.
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T-Mobile and My Experiences

So I have the S4 now and I've been complaining to T-Mobile about the poor download speeds in neighborhood in Brooklyn, NYC as if I live in the boondocks. I finally got a response from T-Mobile saying that oh well it looks like there isn't enough bandwidth in your area and there's nothing you can do. Which is ironic considering the slew of ads they have bashing AT&Ts bandwidth and bragging how great they are (BS). See attached for the wonderful LTE speeds I get. And it's all the time as you can see, not based on time and the network being clogged up. I work in midtown Manhattan where between 10AM and 6PM the network is barely useable to which they said "well a lot of people are probably on it".
I'm surprised they didn't tell me to move somewhere else.
Basically I'm getting tired of all the LTE posts I'm seeing on here
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Shot in the dark here but do you have any HSPA in your area? This thread gives some tips you can use to drastically increase speeds. Seems to have worked for most people.

LTE? that's only 4G. not LTE

That sucks, but like the other guy said, that's just regular 4G and not 4G LTE, big difference as I got a few patches of LTE here where I am, and it's at least 4 times faster for me,
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donaldrc3 said:
That sucks, but like the other guy said, that's just regular 4G and not 4G LTE, big difference as I got a few patches of LTE here where I am, and it's at least 4 times faster for me,
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Here's the so called LTE. Notice the upload speed is higher then the download so something is strange.
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Suchomimus said:
Shot in the dark here but do you have any HSPA in your area? This thread gives some tips you can use to drastically increase speeds. Seems to have worked for most people.
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Thanks I'll look into this although like I said I was told I'd never get increased speeds due to the bandwidth.
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Next year would be the time to start pitching the complaints just because they said at the end of 2013 it should be completely implemented but I've been with Tmobile from the beginning and they have bent over backwards to make me happy.
LTE is still in the beginning phase of being introduced so yes some people will be lucky enough to have early use but pitching a fit because your not one of the few that have it this early on is useless.
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Is Brooklyn even one of the officially supported areas? Or is LTE on but not officially?

Even since they started rolling out LTE in my area my 4g has gone to crap. I get mostly the same speed as the OP now when I used to get 8mbps prior to LTE roll out. It happened at home and now its happening at my work. I really hate it cause inside my work I dont get LTE and just get 4g. And at home I get LTE a block a way but no LTE where my house is so I'm stuck with the new slower 4g.

Man. Those speeds you posted were faster than I usually used to get with Sprint. In the Chicago area, my last three T-Mobile tests are:
5644 kbps / 1590 kbps
7183 kbps / 1074 kbps
8036 kbps / 6006 kbps (LTE in moving train)
14983 kbps / 12024 kbps (LTE stable)
Not bad.

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Here's the so called LTE. Notice the upload speed is higher then the download so something is strange.
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Not sure if this test is valid looks like you had WIFI on at the time.
You're getting low pings (66ms) and over 1Mbps, which is plenty for a mobile device IMO.

Did you try and change your apn to fast.tmobile.com? I had slow speed too then changed my apn now its back to good speeds
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aznmode said:
Even since they started rolling out LTE in my area my 4g has gone to crap. I get mostly the same speed as the OP now when I used to get 8mbps prior to LTE roll out. It happened at home and now its happening at my work. I really hate it cause inside my work I dont get LTE and just get 4g. And at home I get LTE a block a way but no LTE where my house is so I'm stuck with the new slower 4g.
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Same here the 4G used to be great and where I live if I go over a couple blocks it'll switch to LTE but my house is 4G with terrible speeds where I used to get 5-6mb. At my job in Manhattan I get LTE and the speeds are great (10mb+) until like 9AM when it goes down to 2-3mb but it gets to the point I can't even stream a YouTube video.
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se1000 said:
Not sure if this test is valid looks like you had WIFI on at the time.
You're getting low pings (66ms) and over 1Mbps, which is plenty for a mobile device IMO.
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That test was at my job where I have no WiFi. The test was a previous test about a week ago. The Wi-Fi you see enabled is because I took a screenshot while at home this morning. The test is done on LTE if you look at the network type listed.
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Jamenglish said:
Did you try and change your apn to fast.tmobile.com? I had slow speed too then changed my apn now its back to good speeds
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The default was set to that already
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Orical said:
Next year would be the time to start pitching the complaints just because they said at the end of 2013 it should be completely implemented but I've been with Tmobile from the beginning and they have bent over backwards to make me happy.
LTE is still in the beginning phase of being introduced so yes some people will be lucky enough to have early use but pitching a fit because your not one of the few that have it this early on is useless.
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I have the HTC One on AT&T and SGS4 on TMO. I've found outside of AT&T's LTE area TMO being faster, but not always. AT&T seems more consistant everywhere I go, TMO, there's either drop to edte, no service, or killler speeds. I have not hate to either carriers, nor a fanboi of any of them nor any device.
Long story on why I have both, basically had to do with credits owned me on TMO and sales of older devices I had right out.

Versed said:
I have the HTC One on AT&T and SGS4 on TMO. I've found outside of AT&T's LTE area TMO being faster, but not always. AT&T seems more consistant everywhere I go, TMO, there's either drop to edte, no service, or killler speeds. I have not hate to either carriers, nor a fanboi of any of them nor any device.
Long story on why I have both, basically had to do with credits owned me on TMO and sales of older devices I had right out.
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I don't think you get the point I was making, I could see being mad if LTE was out for a few years and your being told you should have it on Tmobile but it's just starting literally. This has nothing to do with att and their coverage but I've had att and Verizon in the past and no Cell carrier can promise perfect coverage.
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disturkis4u said:
So I have the S4 now and I've been complaining to T-Mobile about the poor download speeds in neighborhood in Brooklyn, NYC as if I live in the boondocks. I finally got a response from T-Mobile saying that oh well it looks like there isn't enough bandwidth in your area and there's nothing you can do. Which is ironic considering the slew of ads they have bashing AT&Ts bandwidth and bragging how great they are (BS). See attached for the wonderful LTE speeds I get. And it's all the time as you can see, not based on time and the network being clogged up. I work in midtown Manhattan where between 10AM and 6PM the network is barely useable to which they said "well a lot of people are probably on it".
I'm surprised they didn't tell me to move somewhere else.
Basically I'm getting tired of all the LTE posts I'm seeing on here
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Damn thats fast buddy!!! Lol
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I did a test in Brooklyn yesterday and I got 24mbs download and 8 upload on LTE.