[Q] Camera aspect ratio, does 4:3 or 5:3 capture more information (wider angle shot)? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I haven't had a chance to do a test myself. I'm hoping someone has or already know.
One can set the camera to take pictures at 4:3 or 5:3 (so-called wide). Looking at the screen, 5:3 actually crops a bit of the viewing area. 4:3 appears to be a wider-angle [lens, if you like] shot.
Any information?
Thanks.

snovvman said:
I haven't had a chance to do a test myself. I'm hoping someone has or already know.
One can set the camera to take pictures at 4:3 or 5:3 (so-called wide). Looking at the screen, 5:3 actually crops a bit of the viewing area. 4:3 appears to be a wider-angle [lens, if you like] shot.
Any information?
Thanks.
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Yes, 5:3 crops pixels off the top and bottom to make it widescreen at only 6MP. This is the default setup on sense probably to avoid annoying questions like why the pictures have black bars on either side. If you want to use the full resolution, and have a more standard aspect ratio like other digital cameras, set it to 4:3.

timtlm said:
Yes, 5:3 crops pixels off the top and bottom to make it widescreen at only 6MP. This is the default setup on sense probably to avoid annoying questions like why the pictures have black bars on either side. If you want to use the full resolution, and have a more standard aspect ratio like other digital cameras, set it to 4:3.
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Thank you.

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8MP versus 6.5MP Widescreen?

I just noticed at the full 8MP resolution setting the pictures are not Widescreen. Is there a big difference resolution wise between the two? I prefer the look of the 6.5MP Widescreen on the phone but don't want to sacrifice too much resolution in case I want to print the pictures. I don't see a difference on the phone between the two resolution wise but the phone's screen resolution is so low it is hard to tell. Any advice on which setting is best?
Thanks!
dcam1075 said:
I just noticed at the full 8MP resolution setting the pictures are not Widescreen. Is there a big difference resolution wise between the two? I prefer the look of the 6.5MP Widescreen on the phone but don't want to sacrifice too much resolution in case I want to print the pictures. I don't see a difference on the phone between the two resolution wise but the phone's screen resolution is so low it is hard to tell. Any advice on which setting is best?
Thanks!
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You will only notice the difference when you blow up the picture beyond its own dimensions. Megapixels have really nothing to do with quality. Sure higher megapixels mean a larger resolution, what really matters is the sensor. As long as there is enough light, you should get some great looking pictures. The rest is personal preference.
Why not shoot full, and crop those you'd prefer wider later?
daveid said:
Why not shoot full, and crop those you'd prefer wider later?
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I mostly view the pictures on the phone and at the full 8MP they don't fill the screen when viewing them. That was my reason for wanting to use the 6.5MP Widescreen mode, I just didn't want to lose quality if I later wanted to print those same images at 8x10.

The HTC One X Camera Support thread

Hello everyone,
I’ve decided to start this thread to ask for your help in creating a central One X Camera Support thread.
Please feel free to share all your experience, best tips & tricks, advice, links and anything else you may feel useful. Also feel free to ask questions if you're having trouble!
Over the coming days, weeks and months, I’ll do my best to organise useful info within this first post to help people get the info they need quickly and easilly. I’ll also try to put together some tutorials of my own as we go along.
Cheers,
Bugsy.
Here's a tiny selection to be going on with. There are many more to come, and I'll find a way to make it more tidy soon:
Why are my photos 6MP instead of 8MP?
While the One X can take 8 megapixel images (and will do with a simple change of settings), the phone’s CMOS sensor is designed to capture images with a different aspect ratio to that of the phone’s physical display (4:3 vs 16:9 respectively). What this means, is that 8 megapixel photos don’t fill the entire display and result in black bands being shown down either side of the image. To combat this, HTC include (and enable by default) a widescreen option that crops the image to make it fill the entire screen. This results in a more visually appealing look that makes full use of the screen's real estate.
If you want to disable this function and capture full 8MP photos, you can do this quite easily via the camera’s settings menu (Settings>Camera Options>Widescreen).
If you’d like to know more about the effect this option has on functionality and image quality, I’ve put together a short video that may help:
http://youtu.be/JU-NLQrjb9w
When I start recording HD video, my camera zooms in. Why is that?
This is often thought to stem from only a small portion of the sensor being used for video capture. However, In the case of the One X, the main cause appears to be the result of pixels being reserved for Image Stabilisation. By cropping the camera’s view, HTC are able to use the spare pixels from outside the visible frame to counteract motion. The downside is a limited Field of View.
Currently, the effect of Real Time Image Stabilisation seems quite limited, so you may wish to trade this feature for a better viewing angle. Thankfully, HTC do allow you to do this via the settings menu (Settings>Video Options>Stabilisation). By disabling this option, you will gain (almost) the same field of view that you have in standard widescreen photo mode. The difference will be more visible in 720p mode due to the different capturing technique used.
I want to take low Light photos without using the flash. Is ISO 800 the maximum setting I can use?
ISO 800 is the highest level that you can select manually, but the phone will use anything up to ISO1250 if you leave the ISO mode set to Auto (or if you use Low Light Scene mode, which overrides any manual setting). Unfortunately there isn’t currently a way to manually select anything higher than ISO800 within the stock app.
The 4:3 live preview image doesn’t look sharp
This appears to be a software scaling issue that affects the stock app. Hopefully HTC will fix this in a future software update.
Will using a screen protector on the lens affect picture quality?
Image quality is really quite subjective. What one person considers a distinct loss of quality, another may consider negligible. Personally, I wouldn’t use one, as even the best protectors cause some degree of image degradation.
Having said this, you really have to consider your own personal situation. Are you someone that puts your phone in your pocket without a case or pouch? Do you have young children that might put the phone on a rough surface without considering the consequence? One thing is for sure – a screen protector will cause fewer problems than a lens covered with scratches!
White or light objects have a glow around them, especially when it’s sunny
This problem is, almost without fail, the result of finger prints on the lens (or possibly a lens protector if you have one). You’d be surprised how the smallest greasy mark can affect the picture in this way. Unfortunately, lens HTC’s lens design does little to help keep the lens clean.
This is a good thread for inspiration: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585398
I'll get the discussion ball rolling. 16:9 or 4:3, I can't decide. I like 16:9 as it looks good on the screen and TVs and monitors are also 16:9. But physical media is all 4:3. Is it time physical media got with the times. Does the cropping effect the quality?
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xn1 said:
I'll get the discussion ball rolling. 16:9 or 4:3, I can't decide.
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He he.. People are going to think I put you up to that question when they see my reply.
Here's a video I prepared earlier:
Bugsy.
xn1 said:
I'll get the discussion ball rolling. 16:9 or 4:3, I can't decide. I like 16:9 as it looks good on the screen and TVs and monitors are also 16:9. But physical media is all 4:3. Is it time physical media got with the times. Does the cropping effect the quality?
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well i'd say for pictures 4:3 is better since it's just a non cutdown version of the 16:9 picture so u have more on it and later can edit it on pc to make sure u have the best result.
Vey nicely put together video. Many thanks.
anub1s18 said:
well i'd say for pictures 4:3 is better since it's just a non cutdown version of the 16:9 picture so u have more on it and later can edit it on pc to make sure u have the best result.
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Higher pixel density in 4.3
I can't find a widescreen option on my phone, I am stock.
Open the camera, go to the settings and choose camera options.
There you can change the resolution 16:9 or 4:3
jag233 said:
I can't find a widescreen option on my phone, I am stock.
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jag233 said:
I can't find a widescreen option on my phone, I am stock.
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Open camera app hit the cog find camera options and untick wide screen for full res shots.
Edit; beaten to it lol
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Thanks for the replies lads, I have been taking photos in widescreen all this time what an idiot
backfromthestorm said:
Higher pixel density in 4.3
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4:3 images have more pixels, but they are spread over a larger area, right?. I don't see where the density of anything changes. Or am I missing something?
jag233 said:
Thanks for the replies lads, I have been taking photos in widescreen all this time what an idiot
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You're not an idiot - HTC have it set that way by default.
There is no definitive right or wrong choice, but knowing the pros and cons of each mode will certainly help to make your decision easier.
Whichever way people go though, disabling widescreen mode may be a good option for panoramic shots...
Unfortunately HTC still don't allow you to change the phone's orientation for panoramas. This means that your panoramas will be very wide, but not particularly tall. Until such time that HTC change this, disabling widescreen mode will maximise the height of your captures (you'll gain a few hundred pixels). Worth considering
Bugsy.
craigspc said:
4:3 images have more pixels, but they are spread over a larger area, right?. I don't see where the density of anything changes. Or am I missing something?
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No, you're not missing anything. Images shot in 4:3 mode are approximately 600 pixels taller, but those additional pixels are, as you say - used to capture a larger vertical area. Pixel density doesn't change.
Bugsy, thank you for such an excellent video explaining the differences between 16:9 and 4:3 apspect ratios, which many users find confusing.
I hope you don't mind but I've shared a link to your video on the 'HTC ONE Users Group' over at Flickr, giving you full credit
http://www.flickr.com/groups/htc-one/
Radiognome said:
Bugsy, thank you for such an excellent video explaining the differences between 16:9 and 4:3 apspect ratios, which many users find confusing.
I hope you don't mind but I've shared a link to your video on the 'HTC ONE Users Group' over at Flickr, giving you full credit
http://www.flickr.com/groups/htc-one/
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You're very welcome - I'm glad you liked it. Feel free to share links to anything I do freely. You don't need to ask for my permission.
Just wanted to do the right thing Bugsy, especially when you've put so much work into this
Changing the subject if anyone would like to see a comparision I did between the stock camera app, Camera ICS, Camera 360 and Camera FV-5, please check out the following link.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/htc-one/discuss/72157629696073156/
BugsyLawson said:
He he.. People are going to think I put you up to that question when they see my reply.
Here's a video I prepared earlier:
Bugsy.
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Hehe, they might just, but thank you for the video. I think I'll switch to 4:3 but I will miss full screen pictures
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Also, something I have found. With saturation set to -1 the colors seem more natural. Especially with reds in low light
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I turn the exposure down by 1 as I find it blows out highlights on the regular exposure.
I agree that the saturation gives more natural colours if you dial that down by 1 as well. I quite like the 'kodak' look though
I am finding that the auto white balance gives a red cast, especially when there is a lot of green in the image (such as in a park). I have also found that the daylight white balance is way to yellow.

[Q] Camera Black border either side

Hey everyone
Just a quick question regarding the camera app on the note 2.
My phone is standard, not rooted or anything loaded.
I have noticed that when I load the camera app and take a picture in landscape mode (Phone held sideways)
the picture does not display on the full screen. It has a black border either side..
Why would I loose a 3rd of my screen to black borders.
Thanks in Advance
Graham
Smokie365 said:
I have noticed that when I load the camera app and take a picture in landscape mode (Phone held sideways)
the picture does not display on the full screen. It has a black border either side..
Why would I loose a 3rd of my screen to black borders.
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I suppose you have set maximum resolution, & then it won't fill the screen (because of different aspect ratio).
The simple "solution" is to reduce the resolution one notch, and voilá; the picture WILL fit the screen....
If you don't mind shooting pictures at a lower resolution, that is....
There are 3 wide resolution to choose from to consume all the display. 6mpix is the highest
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Dropped down to 6m and its all good now
If you shoot at 8mp it's in a 4:3 aspect ratio so the sides of the screen are black because there's no data there. If it filled those sides then you wouldn't see what you were shooting at the top and bottom as the top and bottom of the preview would be cut off. If it really bothers you you can shoot at 6mp as others have said which is a 16:9 aspect ratio and won't have the black borders. There shouldn't be any difference in quality and you can always crop your 8mp photos into a 16:9 resolution afterwards if you want to use 8mp.
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Can't adjust Camera Resolution?

Anyone have this issue?
All I can select is 1:1, 4:3, and 16:9. Nothing else. What the heck is this?
Same here. No quality adjustment. Only aspect ratio.
Same very weird
aachil said:
Same very weird
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Between this and the **** battery life im sending this thing back.
DrexelDragon said:
Between this and the **** battery life im sending this thing back.
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What are you going to get? The S6 is way worse.
geoff5093 said:
What are you going to get? The S6 is way worse.
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I have an S6 Edge. My battery life is better on there than it is on my G4.
DrexelDragon said:
I have an S6 Edge. My battery life is better on there than it is on my G4.
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From owning the S6 for a week, and reading all the reviews and people posting here, I'd say it's unanimous that the battery on the S6 is awful. It would last half as long as my G3, and that was with many features disabled, bloatware disabled, and I used Greenify. Great battery life when using the phone, but standby was awful.
Why would you want to turn the photo quality down?
chrisokaly said:
Why would you want to turn the photo quality down?
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Jesus. The problem is there's no indication of what resolution you are taking the picture at at ALL. An idiotic thing to leave out of a camera app.
DrexelDragon said:
Jesus. The problem is there's no indication of what resolution you are taking the picture at at ALL. An idiotic thing to leave out of a camera app.
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Exactly!
chrisokaly said:
Why would you want to turn the photo quality down?
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So many reasons......
File size, image size, image preview speeds, upload limits on websites, being unecessary in general, etc. It's really sad that there's no resolution adjustment.....
Maybe check for a photo size option? Like S/M/L? My DSLR does it like that.
Hi everyone,
While I'm waiting for my phone to reach me, I have a recommendation and suggestion.
I believe changing the aspect ratio itself will adjust the resolution.
As with my previous phones, I think the 4:3 ratio would be the full, native, 16 MP resolution, or a photo size of 4608 x 3456 (multiply 4608 by 3456, you get 15.9 million pixels, or 16 MP)
A middle resolution would be the 16:9 ratio
The lower resolution would be the 1:1 ratio
Please, if someone could take a photo with the last 2 ratios, and let us know the photo dimensions, then we can figure out the resolution
Update:
Well... it seems I may have been wrong.
I found some 16:9 photos on this forum, and judging by the size, they're also 16 MP. It's very odd but it looks like this could be possible because of a customized sensor.
I'm not sure how it works really, but my theory goes down the drain :/
I agree, it is irritating. Likewise there is no indication on the video side of things what frame-rates everything is recorded in, having a choice between 1080p30 and 1080p60 would be good, as well as 720p30/60/120.
I find myself using the native app for random quick pictures and then using FV-5 for more indepth photography...
nadram said:
Hi everyone,
While I'm waiting for my phone to reach me, I have a recommendation and suggestion.
I believe changing the aspect ratio itself will adjust the resolution.
As with my previous phones, I think the 4:3 ratio would be the full, native, 16 MP resolution, or a photo size of 4608 x 3456 (multiply 4608 by 3456, you get 15.9 million pixels, or 16 MP)
A middle resolution would be the 16:9 ratio
The lower resolution would be the 1:1 ratio
Please, if someone could take a photo with the last 2 ratios, and let us know the photo dimensions, then we can figure out the resolution
Update:
Well... it seems I may have been wrong.
I found some 16:9 photos on this forum, and judging by the size, they're also 16 MP. It's very odd but it looks like this could be possible because of a customized sensor.
I'm not sure how it works really, but my theory goes down the drain :/
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I have tried it
the 16:9 is the full resolution
both 4:3 and 1:1 are cropped images
Salbawardi2 said:
I have tried it
the 16:9 is the full resolution
both 4:3 and 1:1 are cropped images
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Also no choice for RAW unless in manual mode. RAW 16:9 option would be nice for auto along with other resolution choice.
Just to confirm, the default 16:9 ratio gives you the full 16MP.
starfcker69 said:
Also no choice for RAW unless in manual mode. RAW 16:9 option would be nice for auto along with other resolution choice.
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That's true, but you can go into manual mode and not toggle things you want to change, which basically means it's still in auto mode, except you can now get RAW.
just use Google camera
Delirious17 said:
just use Google camera
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Google camera lets you shoot in raw?
no but you can at least change the resolution for your pictures, solution for that for now
Delirious17 said:
no but you can at least change the resolution for your pictures, solution for that for now
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So you buy the G4 only to load Google Camera with its crappy processing?

Camera settings?? 4:3 at 12.3 mp or 16:9 at 8.3 mp??

What is everyone's thoughts on the camera settings? Do you guys set it once and forget it? Or are you constantly switching between the 2? Does once setting provide better photos or am I thinking too much into this?
Thanks for your thoughts,
Nycorduroy
It's always best to get as much resolution out of anything you can. I have 4:3 @ 12.3 setup and just leave it that way.
People complain about it not filling up the screen on the phone but that doesn't matter honestly. Everything we have with photography is at a 4:3 aspect ratio anyway. Keep 16:9/10 to videos
The 16:9 photo option is nothing but a crop. It is totally pointless to set the camera to 16:9. Take the photo in the 12.3MP 4:3 mode, and crop it yourself later if you desire.

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