Dead Battery potential issue - Windows Phone 7 General

Today was the first time I let my phone's battery drain down to nothing and it died completely while i was on a phone call. But when it died, the screen went black as it should, but it refused to charge. The light didnt come on and it wouldnt power on. I had to pull the battery and then it booted to a 'critically low battery' notification on the screen. Has anyone experienced this kind of freezing when the battery is just on the verge of dying?

I don't have this specific issue, but definitely power draining problems on my Focus. I let it charge overnight - 10+ hours plugged in. That should be more than enough for a nice, full charge. Well it's been unplugged from the charger for a little over 3 hours now and it's already down 30%. All I did was listen to 4 songs on the Zune on the way to the office this morning.
Same thing happened yesterday. So two days in a row isn't looking good. By early afternoon yesterday it was almost drained.
I haven't even made any phone calls with this yet! I can only imagine what a handful of 30 minute phone calls would do.

hmm... faulty battery/phone? maybe take it back to the store and ask for an exchange?

Is there any way to calibrate the battery? Such as completely drain it, fully charge it then look around the settings menu for a way to delete any kind of battery stats file?
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I was thinking the same thing, about exchanging it. I'm going to give it more time and really put it through some paces to verify. I've got until the end of November to exchange it.
This was all without any Wifi on too

I've noticed my LG-C900 also seems like a battery hog, and takes forever to charge. The Samsung SGH-i917 is a little better, but both of them have a tendency to run out of battery quickly if I forget to charge them overnight. It's a little worrisome to me.
I don't measure smartphone battery length systematically, but my Motorola Droid seems to do a lot better, and my HTC G1 has gone all week without being charged (although the graphics aren't nearly as good, the processor doesn't have to work as hard even to change menus).
On the other hand, the advantage is in both of those phones, it is much easier to change batteries, making it possible to carry an extra battery and switch halfway through the day, something you could never do with an iphone.

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hmm... faulty battery/phone? maybe take it back to the store and ask for an exchange?
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That would probably be a good idea.

you could look at the wifi status , turn it off when you don't need it .
wifi is "on" as default , if I don't turn it off my batt is dying really quick .
I didn't look at it but maybe you can also turn off the GPS .

The first Focus I got shipped from AT&T refused to take a charge. You could plug it in and the icon would change to a plug, but it wouldn't charge up at all. I replaced it at a store and the new one is perfect. Charges quickly and lasts much longer than my old Fuze. I don't know if it was the phone or the battery, but I'd just get a replacement.

For some reason my HD7 won't charge from PC USB ports-- it's been "critically low" in the morning the two times I left it plugged into a PC overnight (orange light on, but apparently not charging quickly enough).
The ports work fine charging my HD2 and iPhones-- apparently not with the HD7 though. Only dedicated AC adapters feeding a full 1A have worked so far-- not hugely inconvenient, but kind of odd.

my G1 and HD2 would exibit this behavior when on my car's USB port when the charge was low enough, and the last system update that came down for the G1 would just slow the drain when attached to my car.
The first trip with the HD7 in the car > home, it died on the car's USB port, very slowly. After its first full charge it does accept a charge from the car. I think it may have issues once it gets low enough just like the HD2. I think it may be the output, I don't remember how much power Honda supplies at the USB port, but obviously not enough for all devices. All my ports on my laptop, desktop and WHS, except the front ports on the WHS and the desktop, charge these 3 devices handily, the front ports on the home server and the desktop must only provide minimal power, I've had USB sticks complain and drop speed on these.

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Charging issues

So, after my previous car journey with the Desire as navigator (forum. xda-developers. com/showpost.php?p=6075788&postcount=11) I did some investigating to find out what was happening. (In brief: I was using Google nav while on car power, and it wasn't charging.)
Firstly, the micro-USB cable shipped with the phone does not work with a car charger. I have tried with two different makes of car, and on both occasions, the power seems to be draining from the phone faster than usual. It would be great to hear from anyone else who has experienced this, or from someone who has been able to use their cable successfully in their car while having both 3G and GPS on.
After doing a bit of research on this, it seems that the Tytn had the same issue, which had something to do with the sync properties of the cable. I've tried other cables and the best i can get is to have it charging, but not enough to maintain full power while using 3G and GPS. Hopefully, this can be remedied by getting a dedicated Desire car charger, cos if not the Desire would be useless as a navigator for long journeys.
Secondly, it does not trickle charge to stay at 100% when the cable is connected, not just in a car but also on mains power. When it reaches full charge it just stops, the indicator light shines green and that's it! So, going back to the nav scenario, even if it could charge properly with delivered cable, once it reached full capacity it would stop charging and start to drain, while still showing green, either until you disconnected the charger and replaced it (if you realised what was happening), or until it died on you (if you didn't).
I can't believe this is how it was designed to behave. If so, for what reason? To preserve the battery? I would rather have a battery that trickle charged and lasted half as long, than a battery that didn't, cos I find the latter to be more of a day to day nuisance.
I'm on the old tmo ROM. It would be interesting to know if people with other ROMs experience anything different.

Broken USB/charging port?

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, please excuse my ignorant.
I have an EVO that won't charge. I've read a lot from Google search results that this is a common problem among many users. However, the port seems to be working, because my computer will recognize the phone and storage when I plug it in. The charge led will come on, and the indicator on the phone will say that it's charging, but the phone is actually only discharging while plugged in. Eventually the led will turn itself off, and the phone stops telling me that it's charging when the battery is down to its last drop.
I hope that someone with similar problem can help me with fixing this, or if anyone cause tell me if it's possible to fix? I want to send it in to HTC since I think the phone is under warranty, even if I don't have the protection plan from Sprint? The problem is the touch glass is cracks, and I don't know if they'll fix the USB port without saying that I broke it and won't cover that under the warranty. I want to buy a new screen and replace the broken one, but if I open up the phone it would void the warranty as well...
So I'm stuck with a discharging phone, cracked screen, and having to carry around 3 separate batteries everyday, and I have no idea what step I need to take.
Please help?
Have you tried plugging it into another charger? It may just be the charger that is screwed up. If this behavior pattern is consistent across multiple chargers then you may want to talk to Sprint to see what options you have.
Concordium said:
Have you tried plugging it into another charger? It may just be the charger that is screwed up. If this behavior pattern is consistent across multiple chargers then you may want to talk to Sprint to see what options you have.
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Doubt it's the charger as it was stated that the computer connection works - should get a bit of a charge from that. I agree that a Sprint visit is due.
Just went through this myself! Would plug my phone in before bed and wake up with the phone at 2% or so. Thought it was the battery- so i took my battery to have the sprint store check it, they did say it was bad. So i bought 2 batteries off ebay.
I got the batteries and still had the issue. So then I took my phone to the sprint store and had them check the micro-usb port. They said it was fine and they cleaned it out cause dirt/dust was in it. Still had the problem..
So I bought a new micro-usb cable of monoprice (still using the same wall charger) , and that solved the issue! Had a bad cable. Now my phone charges super quickly in matter of 4hrs.
It could still be the charger. The USB cable sends data and power through different pins. So a bad cable could still transfer data while not pushing a charge.
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It's gotta be the port happen to mine and I was able to get it fix as long as the port was still attached to the motherboard, if its not attached then have to go thru the insurance.
EVO with Identity Crisis
I was able to connect to my computer and send data just fine with the old (broken) usb cable.
I've tried three different cable and a car charger, same result; they all say the phone is charging but it only gets discharged. USB/storage connection works. Last time the Sprint store said the battery is faulty, but I have 3 different ones and neither will get charged with the phone plugged in, an external charger will work.
kzn said:
I've tried three different cable and a car charger, same result; they all say the phone is charging but it only gets discharged. USB/storage connection works. Last time the Sprint store said the battery is faulty, but I have 3 different ones and neither will get charged with the phone plugged in, an external charger will work.
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Definitely sounds like a port issue then. If you return to Sprint and review what you've done, as well as the result of your previous trip, then they should be able to take care of you. If they try to tell you it's the battery again just stand your ground. Good luck.
I had a similar issue. I tried everything. It wasn't until I found my HTC cable that it started charging again. I work in IT and tried cables from everything I could get my hands on (blackberries, external drives etc. ) The cable that came with my phone was the only thing that worked.
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Had same issue except couldnt sync. Eventually couldnt charge at all...Had port replaced ans can charge all day but no sync still....sucks but at least I can charge.
mexigga said:
Had same issue except couldnt sync. Eventually couldnt charge at all...Had port replaced ans can charge all day but no sync still....sucks but at least I can charge.
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If you replaced the port yourself, I would love to know how to do it!
Took the phone back to Sprint and they said there's nothing they can do. I don't have the protection plan so I couldn't even pay the $100 to get it replaced (although I probably wouldn't as I can upgrade my contract and get a new phone soon). They also told me that HTC wouldn't cover it under their warranty because the screen is cracked and they will blame that on me for misused. I tried to check the warranty policy on HTC, but the page is not even available. Does anyone have experience dealing with HTC? I bought a replacement screen, I'd like to replace the screen but don't want to open up the phone if there's a chance HTC will fix the USB port...
HTC EVO 4G Won't - Stopped Charging Battery Issue
Hey Guys,
Two nights ago I woke up to an EVO that was plugged in with a Cellet
extractable charging cord, as it is just about every night. But, the phone was
still showing that it was charging the battery, animation with lighting bolt,
at only 50% charged after about 6.5 hours of charging. Hmmm....
The latter after trying to charge in the coffee shop first with Cellet chord in the
wall then a portable 3500mah solar portable charger; the phone not seeming to
charge at or past 50% charged.
My EVO is rooted but still with the stock ROM and the gingerbread 2.3.3 OTA
update. The battery is a Seido 1750mah and SetCPU is at 245 - 998mhz. The
phone has only been rooted for a few weeks, but I don't see where rooting
would interfere with battery charging.
I've pulled the battery out, several times to no avail. Switched back to the
stock battery, same results. However, if the battery is less than 50% full
the phone will charge the battery to 25% or 50%, weird. If the battery is
at 75% or more full, the phone will top off the charge to a green LED at 100%,
sometimes. Sometimes it won't fully charge the battery. Weird.
I read different posts regarding poor USB chords so I pulled out the stock
micro USB to USB, a charge only chord I figured, and am trying to top
off the Seido battery, which it seems to be doing as it's now full green but
still charging as the animation shows the bolt in the battery and the LED
is still orange.
If put the batteries in the Seido wall charger, the thing the size of a deck
of cards, both batteries fully charge.
I also use Screen Off by Iwashi Soft. That app has worked pretty well with just
a little funkiness now and then. However, while plugged in, I hit the power
button, instead of the home button to turn on the home screen. The phone
wouldn't open to any screen nor would turn on or off. So I ended up
yanking the battery to turn it off then reinstalled battery and turned phone back
on. I don't know if that had any effect on the charging issue, but I took
the icon off the homescreen and am using the power button only, for now.
I don't think both batteries are faulty at the same time at this point. I
don't know if the screen off app caused some wake issue that interferes with
charging the battery.
I do know that when plugging in the phone to charge there's a bit of clunkiness
initially as the phone locks for a second before allowing use for screen or app
and that's always been the case since the gb update. Also, the LED doesn't
always turn green from amber when fully charged with the screen off until
you reboot or use the phone in some way while still plugged in. So there is
some kind of wake issue in the stock ROM. But the latter has never stopped
the battery from charging.
I do know that Plume, the twitter app, started acting clunky with not updating
in the background unless I opened the app at least once after a reboot. But
I don't know if the latter is a wake issue.
Battery still seems normal. Heavy normal use, lots of SMS, tweets, Pulse reading,
Dolphin browsing, I'll kill 50% or more of the battery in 4+ hours. Otherwise, the
phone mostly in standby with periodic email and twitter reads, the battery lasts
all day or more than 24 hours. But the latter rarely happens anymore because I'm
a user.
The battery just went full charge with the stock charging cable just now.
This morning, I woke up with a dead phone, auto shutoff even though it was
plugged in which I did after solitaire and before going to sleep; as a charging
test.
I don't know if it's the phone or the Cellet retractable cord or both that's
stopping the battery from fully charging normally and consistently. I'll need
to get another data-charge combo chord and do more testing; and a new ROM.
Any ideas anybody?
try a new rom and also try using the stock charger and usb cable. Check inside your usb port on your phone for dust as well. Also go into recovery and wipe your battery stats. In the wipe menu for amonRa and under advanced (maybe here, i dont use cwm on my phone) in clockworkmod. also wipe your dalvik-cache just to clear any issues you may have, restart and give it a test. good luck
I just bought a phone with a broken charger port. Broke clean off the board, so my next step is to try to get liquid solder and stick it to the board. Did you take ur phone apart to see if the port is lose?
So I used the stock USB charging chord. Sure enough, it charged the phone.
Then I tried the portable charger at the coffee shop, worked. So the Cellet retractable
chord obviously had a short or something damaged/shorted for the charging part of
the cable after a year + of use and abuse.
What I don't understand, and haven't researched, is why there are charge only
chords; the stock USB HTC chord charges the phone, but the PC won't recognize
the phone's Micro SD card or the phone as an external drive. I presume the duo use
chords have a data path as well as a charging path. And yes, I know to switch the
phone from charge only to disk drive. The Cellet chord would provide the PC with
recognition for the phone's drive.
Considering the latter, what I'm not sure of, and haven't researched, is why when
the phone stopped charging, the chord eventually stopped charging, the phone
status still showed it as charging; the amber LED light on and the battery icon
in charging animation with white bolt showing? I presume that the charging path
still triggered the charging status, except once when I turned the screen back
on the battery icon was not animated and the white bolt not showing so I unplugged
the chord then plugged it back in where the battery icon animation continued.
Fortunately, or not, this forum returned 600+ results for 'battery not charging' and after
sifting through a few, the charging chord was mentioned which prevented a Sprint trip
and me contacting Seido; thankfully.
So I think manufacturers and ROM/kernel developers should visit this issue as a chord
that actually is not charging, or charging at an absurdly low rate, should trigger some alert
and not show a battery icon animation that appears to be charging normally.

Galaxy Nexus sporadically not charging, fast battery drain

My wife and I each purchased a Galaxy Nexus from the Google Play store last July. Recently, my wife's phone started only charging sporadically when connected to a charger. The symptoms don't line up exactly with any other situation I've found described online, so please bear with me while I type out a full report.
I tried removing the battery and using a precision screwdriver to "nudge" the micro USB port "tongue" toward the screen. I thought it had fixed the problem as the phone started charging immediately after I plugged it back in, but when I checked it ~30 minutes later, it had stopped charging.
I tried taking the battery out of my GNex and putting it in my wife's phone; I put my wife's battery in my phone. That seemed to fix the problem, though, again, it was only temporary. I was able to get both batteries to charge to ~80%, then swapped them back. Again, my wife's phone charged the battery, but only for a short while. I swapped batteries twice more to rule out a bad battery; the same symptoms persisted, so I can confirm the battery is not the culprit.
I tried cleaning the micro USB port by removing the battery and using a needle and 91% isopropyl alcohol to clear any dirt or dust from the contacts. I waited for the alcohol to evaporate, reinstalled the battery, and plugged the phone back in to the charger. Same result as before: Phone charged for a little while, but stopped charging before reaching full charge.
We tried 4 different USB chargers: The charger that came with my wife's GNex, the charger that came with my GNex, the charger that came with the Droid RAZR MAXX that I use for work, and the charger that came with my wife's Verizon Jetpack. Same results on all chargers.
Now for some oddities:
The "charge for a while, but stops charging after a while" persists whether the phone is on or off. I turned off my wife's phone at bedtime one night, plugged it into the charger, confirmed that the charging icons appeared (a lightning bolt, then an animated charge meter). When I woke up, the phone was still turned off but only had 13% charge.
Whenever I plug the phone in to my Windows 7 laptop, I'm able to access the file system every time (100% of the 4-5 times I tried). The Battery settings page will say "Not Charging," but I can view and modify files using Windows Explorer without issue.
And now, for a note from my wife:
Unless my memory fails me, I think this was one morning when the charger felt warm on the adapter where it plugs in. Pretty sure this was the day I took the charger with me to work. I had the phone turned off and plugged it in and later turned it on to check the charge and it had been charging. I left it on and it continued to charge. I had to unplug it on three separate occasions and I plugged it back in and it did ultimately charge fully. But when unplugged, the battery did drain quickly, and I had not previously had a battery life issue.
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The phone will sometimes get warm--not hot, but warm--around the area under the camera when charging. (I'm guessing it's near where the battery makes contact with the phone.) The charger itself will also get warm sometimes.
Sometimes, even though the Battery section of Settings will say "Not charging," the battery would charge very, very slowly (as in, an increase of 1% charge over the course of 15-45 minutes). When plugged in, the battery would sometimes hold charge (e.g. stays level at ~45%) but not charge or discharge.
When I called Samsung support, I waited less than a minute to talk with a person, explained the situation and symptoms, and was told, yes, the phone is out of warranty (by two months, which I admit is aggravating), but I could send it in for repairs for a total charge of $70.63. That includes shipping both ways. Total repair time would be 5-7 business days. Add 2 days for shipping each way and my wife would be without a phone for 9-11 business days if we were to send it in. It's good to know that the repair are (in my opinion) reasonable because I was hoping to hold on to my phone for at least 2 years before upgrading (and I'd prefer to wait at least 3 years).
I've since got an old iPhone 3GS working on Straight Talk (which was its own ordeal) so my wife has something she can use if and when we send in the phone for repairs. (Side note: My wife really misses Swype.) She plans on backing up her data tonight so I can wipe and reload her GNex and attempt to rule out software and OS as the root cause.
In advance of wiping and reloading my wife's GNex, I had a few questions:
Do you agree with my hunch that the root cause of this issue is hardware, not software? I'd love to be wrong, but all evidence points to a hardware fault.
What ROM do you all recommend for thorough testing in this situation should I encounter the same problems with a clean Android 4.3 stock install?
Are there any other possible fixes you all could recommend before I drop 70 bucks on repairs and my phone has to tolerate the iOS on-screen keyboard for 2 more weeks?
I've had this problem once, I even changed ROMs and it never went away. I changed my charger and it still did the same thing. I don't know what fixed it, but it just started working normally again.
What caused was that I was using it and my device got really hot because I was downloading things, browsing on the internet and playing games on it all while I was charging it. My phone got really hot and a little "CLICK" sounded off and my phone just shut off. It wouldn't turn on until I removed the battery. Cooled it and charged the battery overnight. Although my phone was working now my charger was crazy.
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[Q] HTC infamous Battery charging bug with M8

Just got my M8 first time I turn it on it had half charged battery. I drained it to a point when I turned it on two times and than it went dead. I mean I could not turn it on. When I connected the charger no light came on and no response from phone. I leave it till toomorow and see if it will turn on.
I fear HTC is using the same chip for controling battery charge in M8 which if flawed by infamous HTC charging bug. If this is the case it is really start annoyng me and htc m8 will be my last HTC phone. I had so far Wildfire, Sensation ,Desire and all off them had a charging bug. Wildfire and Desire would not show the battery full even though battery voltage was at full charge. My luck? Or HTC has some poor quality components? My S2 still charges battery fine till today.
Ok. Anyone can check their M8 if you have charge bug if you battery is almost drained off power if it will turn on or stay dead?
If my won't wake up tommorow after all night at charging I'm gona exchange it on warranty and see another sample has the same charge bug.
Why HTC is not doing something with this CHARGE BUG on the newest devices? Puzzeles me.
I brought mine to 1%, cycled the power, then used it again till it died. Plugged it in, charging icon came on right away, charging light as well. Hope this answers your question, I didn't really read the whole post.
=)
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Visspui said:
I brought mine to 1%, cycled the power, then used it again till it died. Plugged it in, charging icon came on right away, charging light as well. Hope this answers your question, I didn't really read the whole post.
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My M8 has just died because it wont charge, happened just yesterday. I left it plugged in over night and still nothing. Its a holiday here at the moment so have to wait until Wednesday for HTC to open.
Possibly The same Problem, Possibly Not?
andy905 said:
My M8 has just died because it wont charge, happened just yesterday. I left it plugged in over night and still nothing. Its a holiday here at the moment so have to wait until Wednesday for HTC to open.
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Hi.
I've been having loads of problems having unlocked, rooted, S-Off, SuperCID & installing the ARHD ROM on my M8 (International) but it was, in a fashion, working. I too am on holiday & whilst I now know why I was having the issues & have the solution to them, I didn't have time before I left to resolve them. So, I brought it away with me to use for basic currency conversion & translation tasks & it was, as I say, functional. Last night, I decided to play a game on it & it was being laggy but I put this down to the issues I've been having, so didn't worry. It kept being laggy, so I tried restarting it to see if that would help but once it had powered down, it took ages to reboot, so I tried using the power button to switch it on. Again, it took ages & I briefly fell asleep but when I woke up, it had booted back into ARHD, so I figured all was okay.
However, when I awoke this morning, the device would not switch on. I plugged it in to see if something had caused the battery to drain during the night but nothing happens; the charging light doesn't come on & it doesn't power up, no matter how long I leave it! It is, to all intents & purposes, behaving as though it is dead (bricked?) but I don't know why it should suddenly do this, which is why I was looking for answers & came across this thread.
If anyone has any bright ideas, I'd be more than grateful to hear them
Mine needed a replacement charging board and chip unfortunately but HTC Vietnam was pretty fast, only took 3 days so wasn't too painful.
I like how "Happened to three people" == "infamous."
Yes, this sounds like a very isolated bug/defect. Since it is not reported by very many, the best course of action is RMA. ?
My T-mobile HTC ONE M8 has done this as well, however I was after serveral hours of trying everything I could think of, connecting it to the computer and various chargers and trying to hold volume up and power and replugging it to charger, it finally started charging. This has happened 2 times in the last 2 weeks.
Now that it's charging I wonder if HTC will take it and replace the charging board or battery. I also worry that I have it rooted and s=off that they won't honor the warranty.
There is something similar to this going on with mine - Was charging (maybe quite slowly), battery very low, phone reset. Booted into charging screen, amber light flashing. After a while (and trying to boot a few times), no light, nothing. Charge current is 0.00A
Edit: I remember something like this with the old Desire - there was a trick to reset the charging circuit, which was maybe locked up and not getting a good po_reset, so never enabling any charge. Something along the lines of unplug, hold some buttons for some time, plug, profit... Does anyone remember this in detail?
I had the issue in this topic, and got it solved.
Here are forums where I have found similar case and solution.
https://www.noppanit.com/htc-one-wont-turn-on-after-battery-completely-drained/9h53
http://www.pocketables.com/2015/06/htc-one-m9-unresponsive-no-charge-light-wont-power-on.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481211
I have a particular case. My phone is a HTC One M8, but I have protected it with a special case with a battery extension, home made. I have assembled myself the batteries, chargers and boosters. My booster has a small issue and does not enter safe mode when battery is low. It warns about low batt with a LED, but still tries to deliver 5V. The booster is connected to the phone via a flat cable, stolen from a wireless charger; those chargers have the smallest USB plus I could find ever, and, I found this plug only in these decvices.
When the main battery of the phone is empty, I switch the booster on, and recharge the phone with the backpack. I have to look at the LED; when it's red, I have to switch it off. Everynight, everything get charged on the same single plug. One plug to charge both batts.
The advantages of my solution are:
- phone can last 18h with heavy work (wifi, bluetooth, GPS, and screen on, continuously)
- heavy case to protect my phone, plus tampered glass
- one plug to charge everything
- the micro-micro USB plug is ALWAYS in the phone. This means, the female plug of phone can not get dirty, or filled with dust. I never unplug it, so it does not age. I never plug a classic USB cable directly in the phone, so, no chance to break it. I have broken 3 or 4 times the back charger plug; if I am in hurry, I can exceptionally charge the phone directly; next day home, I can fix it.
This night, I was using my phone, and switched the backpack on. I could not plug my wall charger, because it's home made, has an issue, and makes the virtual keyboard erratic. I fell asleep with the phone in my hand, and the backpack went red ... for 4 hours. During 4 hours, it was trying to deliver 5V, and failed at so. Since my battery was delivering an unstable +5V, the phone was trying to charge, was staying on, but could not properly charge. In the end, all batteries got flat.
This morning, when I woke up, I plugged the stuff; only the back-batt started charging. Phone itself refused to charge; screen was black, and charging LED stayed off. So, I fell in what we call the "phone refuses to charge".
But, because of my set-up, I can *NOT* be in the dirty or broken plug case. Just impossible. And because of context, I just knew I had a flatt battery. This is technically called "deep discharged". And it contributes to aging of batt. Like overcharging, this heavily affects the total capacity.
I knew I could fix the issue by opening the phone, and putting a LiPo charger directly on the batt lines. I have loads of standalone chargers. I had a standalone wall charger for my previous HTC Sensation. But with the M8, we can not just open the case, and take the batt out. It's much more complicated. So, I have been Googling for more than half an hour. 95% results were about "remove dust of plug" and "bring it to the shop to change your plug". Some people also mention "a bug in the charger chipset".
I have plugged the phone on a classic USB charger, but via an USB meter monitor:
dx.com/p/382581 (dispite description, the device can accept up to 13V on input - this detail is critical when you use real QC2 chargers able to deliver 9 and 12V, like this one:
http://www.amazon.fr/Chargeur-secte...&qid=1451509059&sr=8-4&keywords=aukey+charger
http://www.amazon.fr/batterie-exter...&qid=1451509059&sr=8-5&keywords=aukey+charger
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The USB meter was indicating 5V 0.03 A (or 9V 0.01 A, depending on source). So, the phone was using a bit of energy, but clearly not charging. I have left it 4h. Just in case, can not harm.
Then, I pressed together power, and volume up. The phone started to boot after 55 or 65s. About one minute; but clearly way longer than 42 or 47s found on forums. It started directly to some rescue mode, then, started to boot normally, without doing anything. Just released buttons during the first white screen. After booting, I have a normal phone. Did not need to perform any action. During boot, the phone had 2% batt, and was charging normaly. But, the charger LED remained off; I waited 5mn, untill I got 4%, unplugged the charger, replugged, and then got the orange LED.
Remember that your M8 can accept up to 9V on input. QC2 Chargers are really faster: with 9V 1.5A, you can charge your M8 from 0% to 100% in 95mn, even if you are intensively using it (gaming, wifi, GPS). Next gen phone will accept 12V. Even if manufacturers ignore that. HTC buys chips, and don't fully read specs. Aukey chargers are more powerfull and better reliable than official HTC ones.
Remember that many "slow charging" issues are in fact due to bad cable: charger is good, phone is good, but cable in between has high gauge copper, too thin wires, and produces voltage drop between plugs. HTC phones require 4.4V at the plug.
Remember that M8 and most modern phones (same for Samsung) are now MHL (wrongly called OTG): they are true USB hosts; you can plug any device on your phone; just buy an MHL (OTG) cable for 4 euros, and then a USB hub, and then any device: mouse, keyboard, USB monitor, ethernet dongle, SATA adapter, CF-uSD adapter ... and for 12 euros you have HDMI converters. Modern smartphones are real computers. Use them.

General Pixel Stand 2 stops charging

This started happening a couple of weeks ago, prior to the latest update.
When I put my P6P on the Stand 2 at the end of the day, I get the little sound and animation that it started charging. After a few seconds I see the message at the bottom that it's "charging wirelessly" and a time until full. I have the stand set on Max Charging and adaptive charging turned off. After a minute or two, the fan comes on. About 10-15 minutes later, it stops charging, (the message goes away and the current % is shown), and the phone is really hot. No matter how long I leave it, even overnight, it never starts charging again. The phone remains really hot until I remove it from the stand.
About 50% of the time, if I reboot it, it will behave normally again, but last night nothing I did would get it to charge wirelessly. I ended up plugging it into the wire. It never gets warm when charging on the wire.
It has been working fine since I purchased it in Nov. This just started a few weeks ago. Has anyone else seen this?
Dave
Try cable charging.
Charging will disengage if the battery temperature gets too hot, about >103F
Fast charging may disengage if the temperature gets beyond 95-100F.
Ideal charging battery start temp is 82F.
Erratic charging can indicate a failed battery.
Any swelling is a failure, replace asap if so.
blackhawk said:
Try cable charging.
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As indicated in my OP, cable charging works fine every time. The phone doesn't even get warm. It's only wireless charging that's an issue, and not every time I try to charge it wirelesly. It's like the phone decides to stop accepting the power, and it starts to heat up because of it.
I take it you don't have a second wireless stand to rule out if it's the phone or your STand 2 that's behaving badly?
I have been using a genric set-up from charger to stand with my P6P and did have charging issues a few months ago with wireless charging not working correctly but the May update fixed it.
Dataman100 said:
As indicated in my OP, cable charging works fine every time. The phone doesn't even get warm. It's only wireless charging that's an issue, and not every time I try to charge it wirelesly. It's like the phone decides to stop accepting the power, and it starts to heat up because of it.
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May be a hardware failure in the phone or stand.
Remove a case if it has one and try.
C ports generally last for thousands of charge cycles and cable charging is better for the battery, produces less heat.
FoneWatcher said:
I take it you don't have a second wireless stand to rule out if it's the phone or your STand 2 that's behaving badly?
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No, unfortunately I only have one stand. I'll keep trying things to see if I can narrow down the exact situation when it occurs. I was mainly checking to see if anyone else had something similar happen and there was a quick fix.
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C ports generally last for thousands of charge cycles and cable charging is better for the battery, produces less heat.
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Yeah, and I've always used cable charging on all my phones in the past with no issues. I thought the stand was cool in that it could fast charge and keep the phone upright so it's easy to read in the middle of the night. I'd really like to keep using it. It was stupid expensive and I'd hate to let it go unused for that price.
Thanks!
Dave
I've been experiencing similar problems with my Stand. Sometimes it charges normally, sometimes it charges REALLY, and I mean really slow... And sometimes I get the "Not charging" message for whatever reason.
I think it's gotta be an issue with the adaptive charging on the Pixel 6 Pro, because every time I put my other phone on the stand, my S21U, it charges without any issues.
Dataman100 said:
Yeah, and I've always used cable charging on all my phones in the past with no issues. I thought the stand was cool in that it could fast charge and keep the phone upright so it's easy to read in the middle of the night. I'd really like to keep using it. It was stupid expensive and I'd hate to let it go unused for that price.
Thanks!
Dave
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Yeah, I feel you. It could be firmware, a SEU which are rare but do happen. A reflash would fix it if so. Probably not worth the trouble to try and more likely to be hardware.
Cable charging be the best plan for now I think.
The old micro connectors were horrible and invariably would fail. The C connectors are much more robust. This N10+ is heavily used and the C port jack is still tight and has well over a thousand cycles plus a few drops and pulls. Even the original cable is still AOK.
Just came across this thread while looking for similar problems on my P4 with a 1st Gen stand. The phone showed the normal 'xx% charging wirelessly' display then at 79% it changed to simply '79%'. After a while the message went back to 'xx%charging wirelessly'. I took the phone off the charger and using a utility app called 'inware' I looked at the battery temp which was at 41.5C/106F.
So I'm guessing that the phone will stop charging when the battery gets hot and resume when it cools down a bit. What is 'too hot' and when does it cause damage, I have no idea. Google told me in a chat session the other day that it's perfectly acceptable to leave the phone on the stand all day. Personally, I take it off at about 80% charge which lasts me all day.
Mine also has this behaviour, taking it off and placing it back on continues to charge
I just sent my stand back for similar reasons - not good when a $12 Qi charger from Amazon was doing a better (and faster!) job charging.
I sent mine back too & am now using a charger that I bought at IKEA for £5. It's a shame as I thought that Google would have made more effort to integrate the charger & phone. Oh well, bling gone!

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