Artist's picture in Zune livetile? - Windows Phone 7 General

Hi folks,
in videos I've seen phones that have artist pictures on their Zune livetile and in the music hub.
I have my phone for a week now and listening to music every day but the live-tile always stays the standard zune-logo and the hub background is only black.
Is this because I have no Zune pass and just listening to music I transferred via Zune? Or is it because Zune doesn't want to show faces of Death Metal bands? What am I doing wrong? Data connection is always on, location services are allowed...I don't know what else I could try.

It's because you're in a country where Zune Pass isn't supported, basically if you want it you have to hard reset the phone and use an account with US/UK details

You don't need the Zune Pass.
I don't have it and the Music Live Tile works fine.
At least does Zune display the artist in the background?

arturobandini said:
You don't need the Zune Pass.
I don't have it and the Music Live Tile works fine.
At least does Zune display the artist in the background?
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No, not even a artist's photo in the music hub. Nothing.
But all my music is perfectly tagged (with Windows7 Media Center) and has album cover pictures. Zune is allowed to add missing information, so everything should be fine.
Maybe I should try to set to "overwrite all song information" but I fear that my whole music database will get wrong genre information (or worse) then.

Seems to be hit and miss this. Will work for me with some artists and not others.
Couple of things that may help. Make sure under settings/applications/music & Video the connect to Zune is switched on and also doing the find album info on Zune on the PC while phone is connected.

dov74 said:
Seems to be hit and miss this.
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Seems to be
I tried very commercial music now (Linkin Park), updated the whole album online via Zune and I still don't get pictures.
It doesn't matter much, I was just wondering. Maybe the pictures are coming anytime

I haven't tested this. Here is how my library started and maybe why my tile has artist pictures..
I switched from itunes to zune in advance of WP7s launch. When I did that I realized Zune went out and grabbed all the artist artwork and images, which I thought rocked! I have looked at my files and I don't see where they store this extra artwork, must be in c:\program files\zune or something.
Now when I transferred these albums / songs over to my Focus, all that extra artwork came with. So maybe look at the music in Zune on a PC and see if you can tag / download the artist info from the net (through the software) then copy it over.
I have not tested this with a song that didn't come from my PC first.

I think it just varies.
Works for some bands and not for others.
For instance, Nightwish will show up, but Dream Theater doesn't, even though they're more well known.
What annoys me though is when they use a low-resolution image for the Zune player background, it ends up looking very pixely. Funeral For A Friend for instance.

I posted this in the other thread ages ago, but I worked out how to get this to work.
1) Play your song
2) Click on the artist while it's playing
3) Press the double down arrow under Marketplace
IF your artist is tagged with the right name AND the artist has a picture (and most do) then this process will store the image to the associated artist and the picture will display anytime you listen to a song by the artist.

brummiesteven said:
I posted this in the other thread ages ago, but I worked out how to get this to work.
1) Play your song
2) Click on the artist while it's playing
3) Press the double down arrow under Marketplace
IF your artist is tagged with the right name AND the artist has a picture (and most do) then this process will store the image to the associated artist and the picture will display anytime you listen to a song by the artist.
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Again, I've found this to be hit and miss.
It's strange, this method worked for me updating Zero 7 but Ocean Colour Scene, James and Groove Armada, who are more well known won't play ball!!
OCS and James, who have tons of albums available for download through Zune, don't have a pic under "artist" in the marketplace tho...I wonder if thats the problem. (edit - just re-read your post and this could be the problem..although these artists are very well known!)
Groove armada does and shows when I'm streaming Zune marketplace but I can't get it to show when playing Groove Armada from "my collection"??

dov74 said:
Again, I've found this to be hit and miss.
It's strange, this method worked for me updating Zero 7 but Ocean Colour Scene, James and Groove Armada, who are more well known won't play ball!!
OCS and James, who have tons of albums available for download through Zune, don't have a pic under "artist" in the marketplace tho...I wonder if thats the problem. (edit - just re-read your post and this could be the problem..although these artists are very well known!)
Groove armada does and shows when I'm streaming Zune marketplace but I can't get it to show when playing Groove Armada from "my collection"??
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That could be the problem for OCS and James, for Groove Armada it might be because of your tagging. It is a bit strange the artists the do and don't have... here's a list of artists on my device that DON'T have bg images:
- B.o.B (because the Marketplace tags it as BoB)
- Beyonce (because I'm missing the accent on the e)
- Bobby Brown
- Cheryl Cole (No image available, which is strange because she was artist of the week in the marketplace... with a marketplace bg image)
- Chris Brown (no image avaliable)
- Eazy-E (no image avaliable)
- Far East Movement (no image avaliable)
- Gwen Stefani (no image avaliable)
- Ice Cube (No idea why this doesn't work)
- M.I.A. (again probably something to do with the .'s)
- MArio (no image avaliable)
- Mario Winans (no image avaliable)
- Stromae (no image avaliable)

dov74 said:
It's strange, this method worked for me updating Zero 7 but Ocean Colour Scene, James and Groove Armada, who are more well known won't play ball!!
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dov74 said:
Groove armada does and shows when I'm streaming Zune marketplace but I can't get it to show when playing Groove Armada from "my collection"??
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I noticed the same, with the same exact bands.
Also I can't have any picture of Sparklehorse, even if this band is also well known. What happens?
Regarding The Clientele, it's weird: I can see the artist picture in the background when I click on the Artist name. But the artist picture disappears when the track is played.
Also I stopped trying to update my album infos with the ones suggested by Zune, because often they were wrong, and it messed up everything in my library. For instance Zune replaced all my "(smog)" albums by "Bill Callahan". Sorry, but Smog is Smog and Bill Callahan is Bill Callahan.
Anyway, Zune really need to be improved. The display ot the artists in the background is really erratic and random. Totally not reliable.

Okay, I know found out something new. Since I am not having a Zune pass I never used it to search music. But the point is, I can't even search for music -the option simply isn't there.
If I press the search button inside the music hub, I just can search the marketplace for apps -not music.
Then I tried at my desktop computer. It's the same thing, I just can search and download apps and movies -no music possible, there isn't even an option for this.
So I think it's regarding the country I'm living in (Austria) that there is no such option or it could be because I don't have a credit card added to Zune so the option to search for music simply is blanked?

skycamefalling said:
Okay, I know found out something new. Since I am not having a Zune pass I never used it to search music. But the point is, I can't even search for music -the option simply isn't there.
If I press the search button inside the music hub, I just can search the marketplace for apps -not music.
Then I tried at my desktop computer. It's the same thing, I just can search and download apps and movies -no music possible, there isn't even an option for this.
So I think it's regarding the country I'm living in (Austria) that there is no such option or it could be because I don't have a credit card added to Zune so the option to search for music simply is blanked?
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Did you even read my reply which was the first post?

darkmurder said:
Did you even read my reply which was the first post?
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Yeah, I've read it...but I wasn't aware that this means that I don't even have the possibility to search for music.
It's strange that I cannot use the basic functions of Zune because I am living in Austria and my neighbors in Germany, with the same language and all, can use it
It's okay for me, if that is the reason I'm sure MS will get things straight in future. Now that Zune becomes popular they will set it up for Austria too anytime

For NOISIA it is showing RBL Posse..any help plz...Im happy with NO picture, but WRONG picture...NOOOO..plz help me...i tried deleting the song and then pasting it again...no use..

Look for a program called "Zune Social Tagger", there's a thread here with a link but Google might be easier.
It will scan your library and match songs with their equivalent on the marketplace. That should give you most of the artist backgrounds available on Zune.

skycamefalling said:
Yeah, I've read it...but I wasn't aware that this means that I don't even have the possibility to search for music.
It's strange that I cannot use the basic functions of Zune because I am living in Austria and my neighbors in Germany, with the same language and all, can use it
It's okay for me, if that is the reason I'm sure MS will get things straight in future. Now that Zune becomes popular they will set it up for Austria too anytime
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We've been waiting for the same thing since the launch of Zune. Don't think it's coming anytime soon.

Deactivate Zune live-tile?
Hello, I have the exact opposite problem:
I was happy with the Zune-tile showing nothing but the Zune logo.
But now I made the "mistake" of downloading my first song over Marketplace directly on the phone, a song from Simon + Garfunkel. I never downloaded music on marketplace before, I use iTunes as a Macbook user.
Now the F***ING Windows Phone shows ALWAYS the faces of Simon + Garfunkel on the Zune live tile! Doesn't matter, which band I listen to, even podcasts... always the Zune live tile & the Zune main menu has this arrogant looking faces on them.... it drives me nuts!!
I do not want to replace it with another artist picture. I listen to a lot of German local bands about which Zune doesn't even know and thus has no artist picture of them and I don't want it to show only the pictures of the "famous" bands in my playlists. Either all bands or none of them, which in my case means: none of them. Thus I want only the Zune logo on the tile, please, just how it was before I made the mistake of downloading a song from marketplace!
I even de-activitaded the "connect with Zune" in the Settings. No change at all!
How can I delete it and make it show NO Live tile, but only the good old Zune logo again?
Please help, I got a Mac, is there any chance to do this without Windows?
Is there really no other way than a clean install?

Its becouse zune isent suported in your region, as it was reporter above here..
I live in Norway and i did used to use my phone with this region(norway) and it never displayed anny picture anly the album art! not the backround! so i did reset it and used the US region and now all my suported artist from zune displayes the backround image =)

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Should We Install The Zune Software Now?

Im already sold on Windows Phone 7 ill be getting one as soon as verizon launches a htc phone with a big screen and keyboard, but i was wondering if i go to download the zune software now will this be the same software compatible with the phones? and is there anything we can do now with our phones or mp3 collection with the software now in preparation? like add album artwork or anything with the zune software? im trying to get use to the software before the phones launch
deadwrong03 said:
Im already sold on Windows Phone 7 ill be getting one as soon as verizon launches a htc phone with a big screen and keyboard, but i was wondering if i go to download the zune software now will this be the same software compatible with the phones? and is there anything we can do now with our phones or mp3 collection with the software now in preparation? like add album artwork or anything with the zune software? im trying to get use to the software before the phones launch
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the current downloadable vers of zune does not support wp7 however zune client will inform you of the new update with wp7 included.. with that said i would go ahead and install it to add all your music, videos and pics it is truly the best music, video client i have ever seen light years ahead of that lame itunes and it does not recopy your music and use up all of your hd space recopying all your music.
Yes, you should definitely install it. It's awesome software with or without Windows Phone.
paperclips said:
Yes, you should definitely install it. It's awesome software with or without Windows Phone.
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Agree with you. It can be a replacement of windows media player. of course, I am using it now, even though i did not own zune device. great performance, quick start up than windows media player, nicer, more functionalities and one most important function which is you can set and add your own media folder to the Zune player.
Scenario: if you placed all your music in the desk top "music folder", you can add this directory into zune and zune will recognise them and add them into your music playlist without create a new database like itunes did.
Give it a try...I'm sure you will like it...
i just downloaded it and its asking for a account in order to play specific content what kind of account do i need to make?
edit: does it matter if i use a aol or hotmail/msn account to register with zune
deadwrong03 said:
i just downloaded it and its asking for a account in order to play specific content what kind of account do i need to make?
edit: does it matter if i use a aol or hotmail/msn account to register with zune
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I didn't experienced this scenario before. however, i think it is doesn't matter you use which account, but it's more convenient if you use hotmail....because both are Microsoft products and there should be a mutual link between them and easy for you to remember the password when you use microsoft's products.
just to update u guys i downloaded it and its AMAZING never had a zune before but this interface is amazing and you can burn cds with this as well i will be using this over windows media player from now on havent tried burning a cd yet.
for those with a zune player are u able to get album art like u can on the desktop version? i wonder if we will be able to get album art with the wp7 version
deadwrong03 said:
just to update u guys i downloaded it and its AMAZING never had a zune before but this interface is amazing and you can burn cds with this as well i will be using this over windows media player from now on havent tried burning a cd yet.
for those with a zune player are u able to get album art like u can on the desktop version? i wonder if we will be able to get album art with the wp7 version
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haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...
sylau90 said:
haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...
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LOVE IT i've been playing music all day and night lol never did that with windows media player i even played it and fell asleep
I enjoy using the Smart DJ feature in Zune. It is similar to Pandora in some ways. Really looking forward to WP7 I just hope the battery life can handle my music playing.
deadwrong03 said:
LOVE IT i've been playing music all day and night lol never did that with windows media player i even played it and fell asleep
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I was a zuner since 2007 I am happy to say =)
it definitely is 10x better than apple itunes and anything else around at the moment.
sylau90 said:
haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...
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WP7 vers of zune will also grab album art and display the artist in the background just like the desktop vers..
rruffman said:
WP7 vers of zune will also grab album art and display the artist in the background just like the desktop vers..
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Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.
OP I was thinking the same thing, and I did install Zune.
My thoughts;
It looks cool, the interface is 'fresh' and makes iTunes look dated.
But the biggest problem is that I can't seem to managed the actual files and can't 'show in explorer'. That's a real problem for me as I let itunes organise my music so my file structure is a nightmare to actually edit files outside of using itunes to browse. (any tips)
I also find it quite slow, (1.3ghz 2g RAM), which was disappointing. If I had a better PC it might be better.
I think I may stick to iTunes, its not a big deal to sync as a phone is only going to hold ~10g anyway.
sylau90 said:
Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.
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I don't think it will do that (unless you buy something from the Marketplace or use a Zune Pass). But it definitely does pull down all sorts of info like artist bios and other artwork/pictures. It might rely on being properly categorized/labeled first when it's been synced in which the Zune software will take care of for the most part. Also, when you plug your phone into any power, it can hop on your WiFi connection automatically and sync wirelessly.
sylau90 said:
Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.
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I think you mis understood me it will dl it from the web not your desktop (the zune on you phone that is) using what ever internet connection you are using on you phone at the time.
RustyGrom said:
I don't think it will do that (unless you buy something from the Marketplace or use a Zune Pass). But it definitely does pull down all sorts of info like artist bios and other artwork/pictures. It might rely on being properly categorized/labeled first when it's been synced in which the Zune software will take care of for the most part. Also, when you plug your phone into any power, it can hop on your WiFi connection automatically and sync wirelessly.
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as long as the song have the correct title, album and artist it will get the album art. no zune pass needed. it works just like the desktop vers.
shouldnt there be a zune upgrade sometime this week or on monday since the official launch of windows phone 7 will be takin place monday?
deadwrong03 said:
shouldnt there be a zune upgrade sometime this week or on monday since the official launch of windows phone 7 will be takin place monday?
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Seems like a reasonable assumption, but since there won't actually be any phones available until the end of the month we might have to wait for the new ZUNE software until then.

[Q] WP7 Zune artist background list

Im still trying to figure out why when in wp7 zune player, why wont all of the artists appear on the background. im sure if we all put our heads to gether we can come up with a reason. i probably have about 30 albums or some on my phone heres is a list of the artists and albums which have and have not background images when using wp7 Zune. NONE of these have been downloaded from zune( as far as i know) and even direct ripped CD`s didnt always work.
Fail = No artist background
Pass = Artist Background
Artist
30 seconds to mars- This is war = FAIL
Alicia Keys - The Element of freedom = FAIL
Alicia Keys - As I am = FAIL
Beyonce - I am Sasha Fierce (deluxe) = PASS
Maroon 5 - Songs about jane= PASS
Paolo Nutini - Sunny Side Up = FAIL
Paolo Nutini - These Streets = PASS
these are just some examples, if anyone nelse has ANY PASS or FAIL please say here. I found it very interesting to see that 1 paolo nutini album worked and the other didnt!.....strange.......
I know, it's weird.
Many of us have the same problem. Hope Zune will be updated to solve this issue.
Did you try on your Zune (PC) to right click on a specific album and select "Find info concerning this album"? Sometimes it helps.
Also a soft named Zune Social Tagger can help. But it also messes up the tags sometimes (because tags used by Zune are themselves wrong)
Following the probelms I had with background not changing and no album art showing on "now playing" screen, I spent some time with this last night.
I wiped all the music from my phone, went through a chunk of albums and did the "find info for this album" thing then synced back with my phone (of course also making sure the setting under music and video on the phone "connect with Zune" is on).
Now I have all album art showing on now playing screen (finally!) and I also have backgrounds changing as well for most artists/albums (although it normally just shows 1 background per artist/album).
Major and newer artists like Foo Fighters, Oasis, Kasabian, The Who, Friendly Fires all change when songs are played. Others like Ocean Colour Scene and Sneaker Pimps are just black. Not sure If my tags are wrong on these or if Zune just doesn't have any images for these artists (is there any way to check if Zune has images)? Will have another play at the weekend!
dov74 said:
I wiped all the music from my phone, went through a chunk of albums and did the "find info for this album" thing then synced back with my phone (of course also making sure the setting under music and video on the phone "connect with Zune" is on).
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I don't even have such a setting.
Tom Servo said:
I don't even have such a setting.
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Strange!? I tap settings then applications then Music & Videos and it's the only option under there (apart from a link for Zune account settings). Is this mabye just on the Mozart?
see my response to this question here
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[Q] Unknown Artists?

Alright, so this has been bothering me first some time now.
When I go to my music app, I've noticed a bunch of my songs being labeled under "Unknown Artists".
Now, it never use to do this so I don't really understand how it happened.
I checked my SD card and everything in Root Explorer to see if there was any data corruption, but everything looks normal.
Has anyone had this problem before? What would you guys recommend? Thanks!
Another weird thing: I try to go to change the tags so I can put in the correct artist, but the Tag already shows the correct artist. The library just displays it as "Unknown Artists"
This has appeared on multiple music apps btw
The tags on the song aren't done correctly. Happens a lot on torrented music.
Download any of the countless album art/ artist finder apps and fix it.
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The tags on the song aren't done correctly. Happens a lot on torrented music.
Download any of the countless album art/ artist finder apps and fix it.
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Well, I don't know. The tags USED to work, and app finders are led to believe the tags are correct except in any Music App.
I'm having the same problems. I spent a few hours making sure all the tags were right using media monkey and still, my epic does not pick up the artists. picks up album art, albums, song names just fine. I think it may have something to do with iTunes. I used iTunes and converted all my music to m4a's (iTunes AAC format) and I read somewhere else that the android uses ID3v2 tags? Correct me if I'm wrong but thats the next step for me... converting everything to ID3v2 tags (if they aren't the same that is).
EDIT: Yes. I just converted one artist from .m4a (aac) to a .mp3 using iTunes and that solved it for me; that band now shows up under the Artists and not under Unknown. Hope this helps others.
If you need help I can post more.
More proof that ITunes is the Devil...?

WP and Zune

I'm curious what the general consensus seems to be on WP7 users being forced to use the Zune software (as opposed to whatever they currently use on their computer, such as itunes). Do you think this creates an obstacle that may prevent some potential WP users from buying a WP7 device?
Zune software, for me, has been pretty buggy, sluggish, and problematic. The microsoft zune website only installs the 32 bit version - there's no option for the 64 bit version. I'm not sure if that's the reason for the app running so lamely on my computer and sucking up 20% of my i5 cpu.
Also, using the Zune software requires you not only to reorganize your music library, but to re-rate everything differently due to it having a completely different and limited 'ratings' system.
If Microsoft is interested in making things easy to use, adapting to their software should be as easy as possible. Zune is too big a change from the big music players currently being used by almost everyone.
Zune has been the best transition I've made in a long time. Windows media player is buggy and kinda does what it want, iOS is ram-hungry and too... Apple... i don't know how else to put it. Zune as a whole has been a clean transition and the first music player that almost seems like it knows me.
The transition hasn't been hard for me neither. But my music library is only around 7 gigs big.
My problems with the zune software are the following:
- Autoplaylists not as robust as in itunes. Cannot organize to your liking (only by some of their options).
- Autoplaylists refresh visually (they flicker every 5-6 seconds) and if you scroll down too far in a playlist, items appear as "not found" until the playlist refreshes itself and finds the files. This may sound confusing, but I'm basically saying this: Autoplaylists are very buggy.
-Uncustomizable UI (big fonts, lots of unused space, tons of marketplace links hogging up space).
-App takes up around 170mb, compared to 80mb for itunes. It also hogs your cpu (my i5 is at 15-20%, no matter what 'display' setting I have enabled)
-Cannot sync with anything but a zune or WP. Now that zune is discontinued, this software is officially only good for windows phones.
-Cannot tweak playback volume of individual songs, like you can in itunes.
-Cannot set start/end points, like you can in itunes.
-Cannot edit MANY id3 tag fields, such as comments.
-UI is sluggish compared to the basic text-based itunes UI.
-No global hotkeys - aside from next, previous, and play/pause, there are no shortcuts you can hit when the app is not in focus (such as change media player volume, fastforward, etc).
-When minimized, app toolbar flickers between song name, artist, and album. This is distracting. It should simply display the song title in the toolbar, and thats it. No blinking please.
-No minimize to notification area feature.
-Scrolling up and down too fast or too far is slow and stuttery. I've tried this on different computers that are more powerful and this is just how it is.
-The rating system.
-Disliked songs shouldn't play in a mix unless you manually click them (similarly to unchecked songs in itunes).
-Liked and 'unrated' songs are considered the two positive ratings, while dislike is the negative rating. this is weird but fine. However, if you sort songs by 'rating', it sorts Liked->Disliked->Unrated. What sense does this make?
-The 'check for updates' button doesnt work. Sends me an error. I've reinstalled the app twice now.
-Cannot show date of song, date added, etc columns in ANY of the apps views, other than the 'songs' view. Really irritating. You cant change the order of columns in anything other than 'song' view as well.
This probably isn't the place for this, but thought I'd flesh out why Zune isn't ready to be a proprietary app for a leading smartphone. Zune fans may put up with this, the same way itunes fans put up with itunes on Windows. But the masses won't.
Itunes works great on macs. Zune should work great on Windows. Instead, it feels like I'm using a flash app on a website.
i was using zune before i bought my phone, enough said
I don't even need half of the things op has men..tioned
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And I don't need any cable sync.. I am happy with cloud. Period.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106841
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I am using this ****ty app so can't really post long but I will try to answer some of your questions...
I am guessing you are not a Zune pass user... Cosif u use zunepass you will never feel the need to edit id3 tags.
And the concept behind loving or disliking a track is to make ur personalized picks more accurate... The more tracks u like, more accurate picks section become...
UI is visually based and not font based... Gone is ur need to edit fonts... UI is designed so that u browse collection by album ar
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I never said I'm against the rating system. I'm saying its got only 3 levels whereas a normal rating system has 6 (the 5-star rating system).
Also, I edit IDv3 tags for songs I already have because the Zune software is only able to sort auto playlists by idv3 tag data.
This will be the case for other people who are importing their entire library from itunes/winamp/whatever to Zune.
That is the whole purpose of the topic. People moving OVER to zune.
Also, the pass is not an option for everyone depending on where you live. Again, this is not itunse - Zune has no right demanding proprietary status imo. It's not up to the task, especially for users outside of the US
Browse albums by their art covers...
You can arrange songs/albums/artists alphabetical or by date added added... There com the date you were asking for... I don't know if it shows exact date or not.. But if you select arrange by date added.. Than your most recently downloaded album is on top...
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To you above 4 replies, about the 'sorting'.
This is basic sorting that has been around for forever. Sorting by date in album view is not new, nor not at all what I was talking about. Perhaps reread the post so you're more informed with what I was saying. That would be a good way to go about responding to a topic
Does anyone with some experience with other music management apps have anything to say?
I personally find it brilliant, looks really cool as well with a nice easy UI e.g. big chunky text and its really smooth.
I like the way on the now playing screen you have a giant wallpaper of your albums etc.
Half of those things in that big list someone mentioned sound utterly pointless to me, I mean no global hot keys? Who really needs that. I thought thats what a mouse is for.
I also use itunes on my pc as I have an iPad but I hate the interface
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I once had over 70g of nicely organized music UNTIL I got a 20g Zune mp3 player and was forced to use the Zune software...now I've got 120g of mixed up crap.
Zune's a piece of junk, I prefer to use MediaMonkey.
Why you need the 70g of music stored on your PC when you have it all nicely organized on zunepass cloud system for you and you can get it anytime you want and delete it back again...
I don't think Zune desktop is a music collectors device... Its an application to play music, not store and organize your music collection..
I threw away my 60GB of old tiesto collection once I found zunepass... It already has a better better music collection than why I had collected from torrents...
Subscribe to zunepass... And you will see that you are spending more time in listening to music than organizing and collecting it.
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Not sure I don't mind zune but my issue is not being able to sync with Outlook. I hate the cloud and would perfer to keep my contacts and calender info on my computer not out in the air for any hacker to find on microsoft. I use it because I wanted to upgrade to WP7. If there was a way to sync with Outlook(not Outlook Connector) I would.
Purple11 said:
Why you need the 70g of music stored on your PC when you have it all nicely organized on zunepass cloud system for you and you can get it anytime you want and delete it back again...
I don't think Zune desktop is a music collectors device... Its an application to play music, not store and organize your music collection..
I threw away my 60GB of old tiesto collection once I found zunepass... It already has a better better music collection than why I had collected from torrents...
Subscribe to zunepass... And you will see that you are spending more time in listening to music than organizing and collecting it.
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1. zunepass isnt worldwide.
2. if it is proprietary, then it MUST be up to the task of managing your music library, since it will be replacing itunes, wmp, winamp, and so forth.
3. Cloud requires constant data connection. Again, you're missing the point and living in a bubble.
This proprietary software doesn't have any business being proprietary. It's a great piece of software but it is not up to the task of being run worldwide on people's computers with full support and features.
guyver76 said:
Not sure I don't mind zune but my issue is not being able to sync with Outlook. I hate the cloud and would perfer to keep my contacts and calender info on my computer not out in the air for any hacker to find on microsoft. I use it because I wanted to upgrade to WP7. If there was a way to sync with Outlook(not Outlook Connector) I would.
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even so, email by defintion is cloud. when you email someone their contact and email info is whittled away to the cloud. The cloud is just a fancy term for how modern computers work anyways. So if you're worried about hackers on MS servers, you'd best not use the internet to communicate as any sort of data set over the internet can be intercepted.
well... you DONT have to use it.
i got a windows phone and sometimes i use it but usually i use jetaudio, the only reason for using Zune software for Windows Phone its for updating windows phone AND drag and drop music i want in my windows phone. after that i only use it because i want to.
i use it because its nice, it got a nice interface, and of course its not like you have to use everything from it, like, i use mp3tag to fix some music tag i got. but still you could find tag info from internet with Zune.
but only because you have Windows Phone, automatically you cant use some other player. its only for synching and updating not for playing music or fix tags if you don't like it.
If you want your mp3 player to be synched to your computer, with the same playlists and everything, you have to use the same program. WP doesn't allow you to sync with your winamp playlists or itunes playlists or so forth.
Yes, you could just plop files into your WP in an unorganized fashion if you like. Clearly that isn't the point of view of this thread. Come on now
Smart Playlists in Zune kind of suck compared to iTunes

Still No Skydrive Official Music Support?

Theres already cloud storage for music on ios and theres google music already but theres still no official skydrive music or whatever from microsoft what gives here? are they going to do anything cloud storage related for music with wp7:
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You just gave me idea for a new app, thanks... I just hope I will have some free time to code it, currently I'm developing another app "use your phone as a hidden camera", to be published this weekend
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Theres already cloud storage for music on ios and theres google music already but theres still no official skydrive music or whatever from microsoft what gives here? are they going to do anything cloud storage related for music with wp7:
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Try Anemoplayer. Its more proof of concept at this point but once the developer implements playlists and background support you'll be streaming on the go
N3croman said:
You just gave me idea for a new app, thanks... I just hope I will have some free time to code it, currently I'm developing another app "use your phone as a hidden camera", to be published this weekend
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Hey, sound like good idea to me, haha.
Should be able to shut the screen off , and still able to take the picture *sliently* haha.
Alright, back to the main point.
Skydrive allow you to have 2GB Free... would be nice to have music up there but i mean like, is it really necessary? because i never filled my 16GB with Apps and Music.
This is puzzling. Zune is by far the best streaming service of all three OSes. You can listen to anything. iOS is limited to what you have in your collection. Google Music is the stupidest thing on Earth - why would anyone want to upload their own stuff and then stream it from there? Why would anyone choose that over Zune Pass?
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This is puzzling. Zune is by far the best streaming service of all three OSes. You can listen to anything. iOS is limited to what you have in your collection. Google Music is the stupidest thing on Earth - why would anyone want to upload their own stuff and then stream it from there? Why would anyone choose that over Zune Pass?
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It's free And it allows access to things that aren't on Zune
the problem is, zune isnt available worldwide.... in austria we does not have zune music. only zune video... skydrive music services would be nice ^^
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It's free
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But useless.
Erazor84 said:
the problem is, zune isnt available worldwide.... in austria we does not have zune music. only zune video... skydrive music services would be nice ^^
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Yeah, that's true. I'm using it here but I agree, it's not easy and most people wouldn't do it.
Still uploading your own stuff to the cloud and listening from there sounds weird to me. The value in Zune Pass isn't the fact that stuff is streamed, and that's the only thing that is similar in Google Music.
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Still uploading your own stuff to the cloud and listening from there sounds weird to me. The value in Zune Pass isn't the fact that stuff is streamed, and that's the only thing that is similar in Google Music.
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I agree, Zune pass is the best of the three services. Although you have to pay for it.
On a side note, has anyone set up a Windows Home Server? I downloaded an app to connect to my server and now I can stream my personal music collection directly off of it. Zune Pass + personal collection on Home Server = endless music.
I have a Windows Home Server at home and that's where I store stuff including music. But I don't stream it from there though. The main problem with streaming is battery drain. It's much more practical to just copy music to the phone. If it had more generous storage I would have to do it just once.
lbp775 said:
I agree, Zune pass is the best of the three services. Although you have to pay for it.
On a side note, has anyone set up a Windows Home Server? I downloaded an app to connect to my server and now I can stream my personal music collection directly off of it. Zune Pass + personal collection on Home Server = endless music.
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how does home server work? Does ur computer have to always work? When you stream is the music history saved in the zune player shuffled with what's already on your memory card?
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