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I780 and Skype

Hey guys,
Some people are claiming that Skype works properly on their I780... For me it doesn't... I can use it with a headset or the handsfree but the internal speaker (the one for normal phone calls) doesn't work. I've tried several Roms to check if there is one which makes Skype work but nothing worked...
So, I was just wondering if you could tell me about your experience with Skype. Is it working properly for you? If so, please let me know what you did to make it work.
Thanks guys!

no comments about skype on the I780? Does nobody wanna use it?

realtnt said:
Hey guys,
Some people are claiming that Skype works properly on their I780... For me it doesn't... I can use it with a headset or the handsfree but the internal speaker (the one for normal phone calls) doesn't work. I've tried several Roms to check if there is one which makes Skype work but nothing worked...
So, I was just wondering if you could tell me about your experience with Skype. Is it working properly for you? If so, please let me know what you did to make it work.
Thanks guys!
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As far as I know, Skype, or any other software, can't use the speaker that you would normally use for phone calls on Windows Mobile devices. Only the internal phone- and VoIP-application of Windows Mobile is allowed to use the speaker of the phone. All other applications must use the speaker on the back.
So there is no way to get this to work, unless Microsoft adds access to this speaker through their API.

I use Skype sometimese and it's really driving me mad that I can't use it with built-in phone speaker or BT headset.
It also seems not using all available bandwidth so the quality is only acceptable.

skype works on my i780.
one day i was in samsung service centre to upgrade my rom, the samsung service personel noticed my i780 had skype installed. he asked how i managed to get it works. lol
i told him i dont know, i just download and install

tirza said:
skype works on my i780.
one day i was in samsung service centre to upgrade my rom, the samsung service personel noticed my i780 had skype installed. he asked how i managed to get it works. lol
i told him i dont know, i just download and install
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So you are saying that your skype is working properly? You can use the earpiece of the phone to call people? Sorry man, but I think you are confusing something. I found out that some people thought their earpiece would be working but what they heard came from the handsfree speaker. If you turn down the volume of the handsfree speaker, it kind of sounds like the internal earpiece speaker... Can you check again please?

the phone would be just perfect with skype functionality but it cant use the normal earpiece...
Did anyone find a solution?

Maybe Skype Mobile 3 Beta is worth of checking out.

for my skye works (even trough normal built in speaker), but only wifi. Is it posible my provider (t-mobile nl) has disabled the port or something?

It looks like some of you don't pay atenttion to what is written here, and keeps asking the same question.
As Ralph said, there is no way to get around it. It's not just a Skype problem, It doesn't work with all the others third party applications.
The same thing happends with the front camera in all the Instant Messengers. It just doens't work.
Ralph Smeets said:
As far as I know, Skype, or any other software, can't use the speaker that you would normally use for phone calls on Windows Mobile devices. Only the internal phone- and VoIP-application of Windows Mobile is allowed to use the speaker of the phone. All other applications must use the speaker on the back.
So there is no way to get this to work, unless Microsoft adds access to this speaker through their API.
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lli said:
for my skye works (even trough normal built in speaker), but only wifi. Is it posible my provider (t-mobile nl) has disabled the port or something?
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I have the same problem but I found a trick!!
Launch Skype with no wifi.
Switch Wifi on (it is fine even if u are in an area with protected only or no access point at all).
You'll notice that your status will become available (green).
Switch Wifi off.
Don't ask me why.....but it seems to work!!

lli said:
for my skye works (even trough normal built in speaker), but only wifi. Is it posible my provider (t-mobile nl) has disabled the port or something?
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Do you mean that you can hear Skype call via earpiece?? Are u sure? It is not supported by skype it self!! In my opinion you are confusing the sound source. I'll be more than happy to be wrong.
Can u post your i780 ROM ans Skype version?

melgurth said:
Maybe Skype Mobile 3 Beta is worth of checking out.
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As far as audio routing is concerned.....Skype 3 beta is not working like previous build.

SKYPE 3 - Beta for WM (Support File Transfer)

Hello guy`s i decide to open new post to let you know that there is avalible new Skype for our device`s its still on Beta release and its not relieased officialy in the skype site but i found the program and the new skype work perfect on my HD the reason to open this new treath is to tell you that this new version support file transfer so NOW you can use skype to chat, call or even send and recive files!
I already try this new option and work without a problem now we have a real SKYPE soft for our device
I don`t know do i have permission to post here the application but like you know is freewere so i think will not have a problem if any of you peoples wana try this new SKYPE and can`t find it let me know i will upload it here!

post it! post it! post it! lol

I went to skype.com but with no luck, the software for wm is still version 2.5. Can you just post the link, thx.

Skype Beta 3.0
Here you go guy's! Runs perfectly on my HD.
http://rapidshare.com/files/218698041/SkypeMobile3.0-Beta.CAB

is it v3? It's on their site: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/windowsmobilebeta/

yeah ... as mentioned in these threads 2 weeks before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498166
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497862
release was on march 24 hf

Yes guys downlad this version 3 Beta work amazing without a problem

That's great, you can even send text messages.

is there a way to use skypout and listen with the phones ear speaker insead of speakerphone or headset?

richbensen said:
is there a way to use skypout and listen with the phones ear speaker insead of speakerphone or headset?
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What I do is to turn the volume down of the loud speaker (use the rocker etc) and when you put the phone to your ear: face the screen outwards so the loud speaker is on the ear.

is in this version support call when is device connect via activesync?

richbensen said:
is there a way to use skypout and listen with the phones ear speaker insead of speakerphone or headset?
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Please google search for Audio Route.

Is there anybody who's able to make a call with skype mobile. Everytime I'm trying to call somebody, skype is freezing and I have to softreset my device.
I've tried it with v2.5 and now I thought, that maybe v3.0 has fixed this issue, both versions with no luck though.
How can it be, that fring is working flawlessly, even the internal speaker is working, and the skype devs. are implementing new features without fixing old issues
I'm running Dutty's v3.3 XT and had this bug also with the german stock ROM.
greetz giniman

giniman said:
Is there anybody who's able to make a call with skype mobile. Everytime I'm trying to call somebody, skype is freezing and I have to softreset my device.
I've tried it with v2.5 and now I thought, that maybe v3.0 has fixed this issue, both versions with no luck though.
How can it be, that fring is working flawlessly, even the internal speaker is working, and the skype devs. are implementing new features without fixing old issues
I'm running Dutty's v3.3 XT and had this bug also with the german stock ROM.
greetz giniman
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Mine is working fine with Dutty V3.3 on my HD!!, installed in Device not SD.

ausi said:
Mine is working fine with Dutty V3.3 on my HD!!, installed in Device not SD.
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Ok I will try to install it into Device memory.
Thx for your reply!
greetz giniman
EDIT: Installation into internal memory didn't help. Skype still freezes a few seconds after the call has been established...I'm back on fring for now, which is working very well, allthough I like the Skype UI more than the fring one.

skype video
hi
do you know if / when skype will work with video as the hd has forward facing video camera for video calls.
would be nice to talk face to face with other skype users whilst away from the pc

Skype on internal speaker
i have a little Add on for skype that enables it to run on the internal speaker not the external, just like a normal phone call, im not on home pc at the mo so when i am, i will upload i onto here, all you do is run it first and leave it running while using Skype its that simple

Hang on i have it here
Here it is for your enjoyment !!!!!

Yea, Video calling would seriously be nice for Skype Mobile because not everyone lives in the very few 3G areas that exist.

darrenmc168 said:
i have a little Add on for skype that enables it to run on the internal speaker not the external, just like a normal phone call, im not on home pc at the mo so when i am, i will upload i onto here, all you do is run it first and leave it running while using Skype its that simple
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First of all thanks, Are you running it on a HD? What Skype version are you using?
Anyway of it running automatically when Skype is turned on, maybe a toggle switch?

How to get Skype working for the TP2

The reason for this thread is to help people get Skype working to its fullest extent and resolve some of the issues. The ultimate objective is to allow those with Skype subscriptions to get unlimited anytime calling across North America if they pay the $2.95 / month for the Skype plan and have unlimited data...
Download Skype 3.0 for Windows Phones here:
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/windowsmobile/
It installs fine and theoretically works great, however, there are a number of issues:
1. Skype automatically routes all audio to the speakerphone.
To route the audio to the earpieces, install audioRoute from Teksoft:
http://teksoftco.com/storage/download.php?product=audioroute_ppc
This product is discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=495166
It essentially installs an icon in your taskbar that loads when the phone starts up. Once you open Skype, you click the icon, select the first icon, which is the earpiece, and then all audio will get routed to the earpiece when using Skype.
To route the audio to a Bluetooth headset, then install A2DP toggle from Teksoft:
http://teksoftco.com/storage/download.php?product=a2dptoggle
This program should theoretically allow you to select the Bluetooth headset when Skype is loaded. It should theoretically be able to be loaded concurrently with audioRoute. I have not tested it fully.
2. Skype will not work unless connected to a wifi connection
I had tested Skype and thought it worked flawlessly until someone with an iPhone mentioned that he had to install some sort of program to "trick" Skype into thinking it was connected to a Wifi. I believe that this is an issue with the way Microsoft has designed Windows Mobile, but is probably intential to prevent competition for telecommunication company voice packages. This issue supposedly does not exist with Windows Mobile clients.
Just ensure that ActivSync/Wifi/Mobile is enabled under the Connection settings.
3. Skype Mobile does not support video calling
I'm not sure if this is a software issue or just something that can be hacked. I see no reason why this functionality would be disabled in the Mobile version of Skype... any insight would be appreciated.

Would love it if anyone else is experiencing problem 2 as well... I want to find out if it's isolated to my handset... or even to just my carrier.

slaman said:
Would love it if anyone else is experiencing problem 2 as well... I want to find out if it's isolated to my handset... or even to just my carrier.
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No problem here on a Vodafone TP2. Skype uses the 3G connection fine.
You know that htere's a setting that tells Skype what connection(s) to use? It defaults to "Use ActiveSync/Wifi" but can be changed to "Use ActiveSync/Wifi/Mobile"

It was working for me I think
see the message below

It was working for me I think
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but I have made calls through Skype on my TyTN II using the Australian Three 3G network. Called my wife on her mobile in Shanghai with no problems. Well, the connection was pretty horrible (I think it's a bit hard work for both the phone and the network) but it connected fine for as long as I wanted.
As tjobbins said, in the Connection Method settings, I can "Use ActiveSync/WiFi" or "Use ActiveSync/WiFi/Mobile"... so if I'm overseas, I leave it on the first one; in Australia on the second one.

skippinshanghai said:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but I have made calls through Skype on my TyTN II using the Australian Three 3G network. Called my wife on her mobile in Shanghai with no problems. Well, the connection was pretty horrible (I think it's a bit hard work for both the phone and the network) but it connected fine for as long as I wanted.
As tjobbins said, in the Connection Method settings, I can "Use ActiveSync/WiFi" or "Use ActiveSync/WiFi/Mobile"... so if I'm overseas, I leave it on the first one; in Australia on the second one.
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Interesting... I think my settings might have changed because I tested it again just now and it worked!
Thanks all!

I'm interested in how this works. I own the Titan at the moment and Skype only works over Wifi. Do you know if Skype plans on fixing the problem with calls only being heard from speaker phone? Any update on video calling?
off-topic question here, does anyone know if the titan operates on 3G? (i have sprint)

jtadeo said:
I'm interested in how this works. I own the Titan at the moment and Skype only works over Wifi. Do you know if Skype plans on fixing the problem with calls only being heard from speaker phone? Any update on video calling?
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We can only hope. Skype have their forums and I saw a number of posts complaining about those missing features. I guess we should add our voices, though I would expect it will take a while for it to be fixed; the current version for Windows Mobile, Skype 3, was released fairly recently.
One alternative to look at is Fring. It supports better audio routing, i.e. calls are not only on speakerphone - they can come through the normal phone earpiece, or a bluetooth headset. Don't think it does video. As well as Skype, it also supports MSN, ICQ, Yahoo, AIM and others, so it's a good all-in-one client.
However on the TP2 Fring does currently have one quite annoying issue - it doesn't seem to work on Wifi. It's fine on mobile/3G connections, but on Wifi it won't list access points or connect. This is reported on their forums but no sign of a fix yet. Actually I did once get it connect to WiFi, but I don't really know how and haven't been able to repeat it.

Oh I just remembered the other huge problem with Skype for Windows Mobile - it doesn't list your phone contacts!
Bloody useless when you want to make a Skype Out call, and you end up having to go into the contact record, copy their number, and then paste it into Skype. Really daft.
Fring does list your contacts, and you can use it for Skype Out as well as Fring's own paid-for outbound dialling system.

I have another problem: NO notifications! So i don't know if someone chats or phone me! It's useless in that way!

tjobbins said:
Oh I just remembered the other huge problem with Skype for Windows Mobile - it doesn't list your phone contacts!
Bloody useless when you want to make a Skype Out call, and you end up having to go into the contact record, copy their number, and then paste it into Skype. Really daft.
Fring does list your contacts, and you can use it for Skype Out as well as Fring's own paid-for outbound dialling system.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I want to make sure that I'm using only data-only when making calls, since I have unlimited data... and limited daytime voice minutes.
I installed fring, and it doesn't show the TP2 as a supported device. When I launched it, it kept asking me to find a WLAN... except nothing shows up on the list! Wifi is enabled AND data is enabled, and it keeps showing Not Available...
Has it worked on your TP2?

slaman said:
I installed fring, and it doesn't show the TP2 as a supported device. When I launched it, it kept asking me to find a WLAN... except nothing shows up on the list! Wifi is enabled AND data is enabled, and it keeps showing Not Available...
Has it worked on your TP2?
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Nope. See my post before the one you quoted! It doesn't work on WiFi on the TP2 at the moment - and also on some other WM devices I think.
Works great on 3G and ActiveSync, just doesn't work on WiFi.
Except.. once for me it did. It suddenly connected and I don't know how or why. Haven't managed to repeat it yet though. But maybe there's a workaround lying in there waiting to be (re) discovered

tjobbins said:
Nope. See my post before the one you quoted! It doesn't work on WiFi on the TP2 at the moment - and also on some other WM devices I think.
Works great on 3G and ActiveSync, just doesn't work on WiFi.
Except.. once for me it did. It suddenly connected and I don't know how or why. Haven't managed to repeat it yet though. But maybe there's a workaround lying in there waiting to be (re) discovered
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No no - I had wifi disabled and just tried to use regular data connection... but it couldn't find the connection for some reason.

Hate to bump an old thread... but I finally got Fring working on my TP2 (latest version), but SkypeOut calls don't actually direct to the Earpiece... I don't hear anything. Loudspeaker works fine.

Call recording on Desire (android)

Hi!
I have a question if its possible to record incoming and outgoing calls on the Desire.

+1 !!!!
2-way phone recording need very much!

Dear All:
001.
Anybody has any positive experience with Ultimate Voice Recorder running on the HTC Desire (in the field of calls recording)?
002.
UVR on N1 seems to have problems with recording of the second party's voice, but on the US market this can actually be an "intentional" configuration/setup of the device.
003.
If same issues are present on the Desire how likely it is to get "fix" like the 2WayRecording? I have successfully used it on my TYTN2 together with Resco Audio Recorder to alleviate second party's voice recording issues.

+1 !!!!
2-way phone recording need very much!
any solution?

Desire and Ultimate Voice Recorder 2.3.4
Hi,
an "In Call Recording function" would be nice to have. I partially was succesful with the Ultimate Voice Recorder 2.3.4 which was able to record the remote person very silent, but still recognizable.
Same problems as I had with Windows Mobile 6: I used to have a T-Mobile Ameo (HTC Advantage x7501, Code name Athena) which would only record the other side's person in speaker mode.
More or less bad luck until now, as I expected Android-devices being superiour in this matter!
Greetings.

shame this, my c905 did it out of the box flawlessly

Hy guys, I just installed on my Desire (Android 2.1) something from the market called vRecoreder.
Used it once running in the background and it recorded my conversation (the recorded volume is kind low, but you understand).
Give it a try.
ps: had to uninstall all my call voice recorders that run in the background.

cnic said:
Hy guys, I just installed on my Desire (Android 2.1) something from the market called vRecoreder.
Used it once running in the background and it recorded my conversation (the recorded volume is kind low, but you understand).
Give it a try.
ps: had to uninstall all my call voice recorders that run in the background.
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Update: it records .3gpp (hence the bad quality i think) and aparently records only incoming calls. Must test more though.

Two ways call recording is depending upon hardware construction same like wm and symbian. For example if wm, Asus and Samsung can but HTC cannot, whereas if in symbian case, Nokia can but Samsung cannot. This conclusion comes from my long experience with the aforementioned mobile phones. Have not tested with Garmin Asus android yet as it is not available in my market but believe this one can.

grandxo said:
Two ways call recording is depending upon hardware construction same like wm and symbian. For example if wm, Asus and Samsung can but HTC cannot
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I'm sorry, but I have an exception on that theory right here.
My Touch Diamond wouldn't do a two way recording whatever I tried. Until I switched to a custom (WM6.5.1) ROM, there it worked fine. So no hardware issue, it was a ROM issue.

Sandeman1976 said:
I'm sorry, but I have an exception on that theory right here.
My Touch Diamond wouldn't do a two way recording whatever I tried. Until I switched to a custom (WM6.5.1) ROM, there it worked fine. So no hardware issue, it was a ROM issue.
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I second this, as in a few Win Mobile threads discussed (no link at hand, sorry) there are registry values to be manipulated for successful two-way-voice recording. As far as I remember Microsoft and HTC stated that being NOT possible to record 2-way (without speaker mode), were hardware (design!) related facts and decisions made - until someone figured it out otherwise, by accident! (As a prior Win Mobile user: praise him!)

Not being able to record calls in Android phones is really sad.
The Palm system was able to do it from day one.
In fact the largest selling single piece of software for a smart phone ever is
Qmobilsoft's "Callrec" for palm.
So what does that say for a needed feature.
P.S. The Palm OS is now over 15 years old.

forcemaker said:
I second this, as in a few Win Mobile threads discussed (no link at hand, sorry) there are registry values to be manipulated for successful two-way-voice recording. As far as I remember Microsoft and HTC stated that being NOT possible to record 2-way (without speaker mode), were hardware (design!) related facts and decisions made - until someone figured it out otherwise, by accident! (As a prior Win Mobile user: praise him!)
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It worked on my Touch Pro2 as well, but seems as though the stock rom was on there for around 10 mins i dont know if it worked out of the box or not.

AirVoice claims to be able to do this. Unfortunately in my experience it just doesn't

Hi falks!
The situation is easyer, then you think.
The hardware and the software are ready to record 2way the phone conversations. We have only one problem: we doesn't have any software, which would do it for us.
At this time is the only solution the Ultimate Voice Recorder, which records the outgoing voice perfect, and the incoming voice very quiet.
Total Recall is the other software, which could be able to do this feature, unfortunatelly it does it only under 1.6, so on our phone - HTC Desire - doesn't works.

For the moment... maybe turn the speakerphone on... and record the whole conversation with another phone! Hahaa... lmao!

is there apps for 2 way rec
or only wish centar

Sandeman1976 said:
I'm sorry, but I have an exception on that theory right here.
My Touch Diamond wouldn't do a two way recording whatever I tried. Until I switched to a custom (WM6.5.1) ROM, there it worked fine. So no hardware issue, it was a ROM issue.
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Agreed but I had HTC Touch Cruise too and did adjust the registry value up to 5 in the Sound Categories using Memmaid software. The incoming call recording improve but very slightly indeed and is too far to compare with the clear quality from my Samsung i780 using Vito audio note in non speaker phone for both. Finally sold the HTC out and bought Asus P552w and very happy with the unit. Suggest to know and choose the right hardware from the start otherwise one has to learn how to play with registry or cooked rom and run the risk of losing warranty if does not know how to flash back the official rom.

malmosyd said:
Hi!
I have a question if its possible to record incoming and outgoing calls on the Desire.
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No one here can confirm that Desire can do this yet. Samsung Spica and Galaxy S are reported to fail to record incoming call

WM 6.5 SIP Client w/ Dialpad and Mute Function

Hi Guys,
I currently use free SIP service and google voice together with onedialer to make phone calls through Data. I currently use FRING as the SIP client, though it works good, but it doesn't have dialpad...so i can't enter tone responses (the windows dialer's dialpad tone sounds for some reason also doesn't work during SIP call) and neither does it have mute functionality during SIP call.
Is there any SIP client with these feature...i know WM has inbuilt SIP client...does it have these 2 features...its lot of work to enable it in..so just want to make sure beforehand
Regards,

ok pardon my noobiness above...so I configured the built in sip client and found it work just like regular call...and also it sucks compared to fring...there is more lag, sound breaking compared to fring(on phone data plan and even on wi-fi) and it misses incoming SIP calls too some times...
So is there any other solution?

You can try this one ..I've had good results with it.
Agreet agephone
http://www.ageet.com/us/products-agephone-mobile.htm

TechnoHippie said:
You can try this one ..I've had good results with it.
Agreet agephone
http://www.ageet.com/us/products-agephone-mobile.htm
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Thanks for the suggestion...for now I've installed PortSIP and its working pretty good...I'll give that one a try also and compare..

Mafioso said:
Thanks for the suggestion...for now I've installed PortSIP and its working pretty good...I'll give that one a try also and compare..
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Well I've tried both PortSIP and Agephone....both are good clients but none of them are able are as successful on T-mobile Edge network as Fring...it somehow manages to get adequate audio quality to get talks done...maybe it uses low bandwidth or something...The others have choppy/muffled voices in between
Is there any other client as successful as this? i've tried Nimbuzz, but it has the same problem as others..