[Q] Hardware keyboard forces capital letters - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm using a swedish version of desire-z and sometimes (too often) the phone decides that i'm trying to write capital letters when i'm using the swedish letters Å Ä and Ö. This even happens in the middle of words and the only way to type small letters is by using the software kwyboard. The shift button does nothing.
This is really starting to bug me! Does anyone have a solution?
If so please let me know.
Thanks!
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I think those letters can only be used in upper case with the keyboard. There is some info in the dev section.
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ddotpatel said:
I think those letters can only be used in upper case with the keyboard. There is some info in the dev section.
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That is not true. I have the nordic version myself, but I am not experiencing the same issue as lugiber Mine works both in upper case at the beginning of words, and in the middle of a text in lower case
Edit: Lugiber: Does it happen with all the extra letters, or just some of them?

Yes, my mistake. I have re-read the thread in the dev section myself.
Looks like it is a bug at the moment, but shutting and re-opening the keyboard helps??
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Ah, didn't know that opening and closing the hardware keyboard fixed the issue. Thanks for the tip! It's still annoying that i have to do this just for the simplest functionality on my phone! Hope the fix will come soon.
(Btw if someone is thinking of buying swiftkey don't do it until a fix has been released becase it will cause åä and ö to constantly be capital letters.)
Crap! I really love this phone, too bad htc didn't have sense enough to beta test the phone enough before the release.
But if they did i guess the wait would have been even longer. And that wouldn't have been fun!
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Porcelina said:
Edit: Lugiber: Does it happen with all the extra letters, or just some of them?
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I have no idea. I never write in Danish or Norwegan so those button pretty much stay untouched. Sorry!
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I had the same problem with my DZ in the beginning, and traced the problem down to language selection of the keyboard!
Try to slide out the keyboard and watch two letters pop up in the notification bar - for mine it was EN, and figurated out that it was set to english! After I changed it to Danish, the problem went away! Soo kool...

Enur said:
Try to slide out the keyboard and watch two letters pop up in the notification bar - for mine it was EN, and figurated out that it was set to english! After I changed it to Danish, the problem went away! Soo kool...
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I noticed that the first day I used the DZ, and changed it... maybe thats why I havent experienced the same problem as TS

Strange - I have a nordic Z also and my danish letters is upper case also sometimes..
I have set my keyboard to danish and T9 (guessing words..).
Either we need to play around more with the language settings or there is a bug...

Hmm, strange. I have set my keyboard to swedish and still experience the issue. Hope there is a bug fix for this soon. I don't want to wear out my keyboard hinges just yet.
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One solution is select STOCK virtual QWERTY as default input method. That way the bug goes away. Installing any 3rd party virtual keyboard will cause the bug.

Enur said:
Try to slide out the keyboard and watch two letters pop up in the notification bar - for mine it was EN, and figurated out that it was set to english! After I changed it to Danish, the problem went away! Soo kool...
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I have the same problem, and unfortunately this didn't solve it. :-(
Anja

works on touch
mine works fine if i use the default "Touch input" keyboard, but doesn't work on any other keyboard i have tried. So far only tested "Scandinavian keyboard" and "Smart Keyboard pro".
The fact that it does work consistently (without having to open/close the hardware keyboard) with the default keyboard but not in any other, makes me think that the keyboard sends the code for a capital letter and probably sends some correction info along that the default keyboard listens to but the others ignore... just my guess, i really have no experience with how the keyboards work in android...

I have investigated this CAPS nordic problem too. I have found few ways to generate the situation. It appears to generate caps when you haven't activated textfield by tapping it. For example when you write two sms messages in a row. At the first message you tap the textfield to active it and write the message. After sending the first message the text field is allready "active" (cursor blinking there). And if you start to write immediately without closing keyboard or tapping text field it generates only capital nordic letters. Then if you tap the textfield to really activate it again then the capital nordic letters are gone.
I'm not sure if this is the only problem with this CAPS thing but that is easy way to generate it. I think there might be few other situations where CAPS problem exists because sometimes pressing menu -key twice (open and close menu) caps problem disappears but sometimes not. Then sometimes it disappears when closing and opening the keyboard sometimes not. Best results I have had with tapping text field from screen to activate it.
I have informed HTC Support for this matter but all I have got back is: Hard reset your device. I have once done that but it doesn't help either.

Vexix said:
I have investigated this CAPS nordic problem too. I have found few ways to generate the situation. It appears to generate caps when you haven't activated textfield by tapping it. For example when you write two sms messages in a row. At the first message you tap the textfield to active it and write the message. After sending the first message the text field is allready "active" (cursor blinking there). And if you start to write immediately without closing keyboard or tapping text field it generates only capital nordic letters. Then if you tap the textfield to really activate it again then the capital nordic letters are gone.
I'm not sure if this is the only problem with this CAPS thing but that is easy way to generate it. I think there might be few other situations where CAPS problem exists because sometimes pressing menu -key twice (open and close menu) caps problem disappears but sometimes not. Then sometimes it disappears when closing and opening the keyboard sometimes not. Best results I have had with tapping text field from screen to activate it.
I have informed HTC Support for this matter but all I have got back is: Hard reset your device. I have once done that but it doesn't help either.
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My experience is slighty different from this one.. But if i write a SMS with HW keyboard, send it and exit the sms thread iam in and go to a new one and write there, the cap letters will be there.. This is if i use the HW keyboard during this .. If i then close the HW keyboard and pull it out again they are gone!

Da9L said:
My experience is slighty different from this one.. But if i write a SMS with HW keyboard, send it and exit the sms thread iam in and go to a new one and write there, the cap letters will be there.. This is if i use the HW keyboard during this .. If i then close the HW keyboard and pull it out again they are gone!
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I think it is the same situation. When you don't close the HW keyboard and you go to writing text without activating text box by tapping screen you get capital nordic letters.
I got reply from HTC Support from England that they are not aware of that problem (after few replys where I explained the situation) and they gave me Norwegian support phone number, but because of costs to phone there I'll asked if they could give me an email address. Plus I can then get some documentation about what have been discussed even if support person changes. I hope we soon get official fix for this.

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On-screen keyboard - numbers only

My on-screen keyboard is only displaying numbers, with no option to switch to qwerty. The only qwerty characters available are "p" and "w", which appear to the top right of the keyboard.
Does anyone have any idea how I can get the normal qwerty keyboard back??
itm said:
My on-screen keyboard is only displaying numbers, with no option to switch to qwerty. The only qwerty characters available are "p" and "w", which appear to the top right of the keyboard.
Does anyone have any idea how I can get the normal qwerty keyboard back??
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Did you disable eT9 and to get Auto suggest and auto complete back? If so that is probably what did it.
I had the same problem when I hacked my Tilt 2 to get get auto suggest and auto complete back. Apparently when you do this it works fine until the fallowing happens:
A. You get to a field that triggers you keyboard to switch number entry mode (Nummber pad with P and W)
b. You get to a field that trigger the keyboard to internet entry mode (Keyboard with ".com" and "/" but no spacebar).
Once you enter either mode you can't key you regular keyboard back.
If that is what happened to you, your not the only one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526857&highlight=Auto+suggest
I haven;t found a way to make it work without breaking the keyboard. I had to do a clear storage and learn to use T9. It better than a broken keyboard.
Yes that's what I did. If I have auto-suggest but NOT auto-complete on do you know if this will avoid the problem??
itm said:
Yes that's what I did. If I have auto-suggest but NOT auto-complete on do you know if this will avoid the problem??
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I'm not really sure. I tried several ways and nothing worked, my guess is your are likely to still have an issue. BTW going back an changeing the registry edits back did not fix the issues for me. I had to clear storage and start from scratch each time.
For now I'm learning to live with XT9. I don't like it as much as the original, but it is usable. The alternative is using MS tiny little SW keyboard, and to me, that is even worse.
Now if someone could figure out how to keep the alternate keyboards from popping up, in theory, that should remedy the issue. Unfortunately, I have no such skill.
RojasTKD said:
Did you disable eT9 and to get Auto suggest and auto complete back? If so that is probably what did it.
I had the same problem when I hacked my Tilt 2 to get get auto suggest and auto complete back. Apparently when you do this it works fine until the fallowing happens:
A. You get to a field that triggers you keyboard to switch number entry mode (Nummber pad with P and W)
b. You get to a field that trigger the keyboard to internet entry mode (Keyboard with ".com" and "/" but no spacebar).
Once you enter either mode you can't key you regular keyboard back.
If that is what happened to you, your not the only one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526857&highlight=Auto+suggest
I haven;t found a way to make it work without breaking the keyboard. I had to do a clear storage and learn to use T9. It better than a broken keyboard.
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Try this to fix it: start Opera, tap the url field, which will bring up the "search the web" field. Then tap the "search the web" field. This should fix your keyboard (at least it works for me), at least until the next time something triggers the keyboard problem.
levman said:
Try this to fix it: start Opera, tap the url field, which will bring up the "search the web" field. Then tap the "search the web" field. This should fix your keyboard (at least it works for me), at least until the next time something triggers the keyboard problem.
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Thanks for the input, good to know.
That may be a work around for the Internet input issue (maybe), but we still have the issue with the numeric input Keyboard. Thus far the best option, at least for me, is to live with XT9 until a terminate fix is found.
On the bright side, over all I love my TP2/Tilt2!
RojasTKD said:
Thanks for the input, good to know.
That may be a work around for the Internet input issue (maybe), but we still have the issue with the numeric input Keyboard. Thus far the best option, at least for me, is to live with XT9 until a terminate fix is found.
On the bright side, over all I love my TP2/Tilt2!
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Actually, this works for the numeric input keyboard issue as well - I have experienced this first hand. addmittedly, it is a bit of a pain to switch from whatever you happen to be doing, to opera, just to fix your keyboard.

SMS Text Box Bug

I've searched, but couldn't find anything about this.
When I open the keyboard when replying to a text message sometimes the text reply box partially disappears off the bottom of the screen and you can only see the top line. Annoyingly it stays like this until I soft reset.
Does anyone have any solution for this?
I've had this same error since WM 5, through 6.1, and still on 6.5. I was very disappointing to see this bug was not fixed, its such a stupid problem.
It's not a fix but instead of soft reseting just push the keyboard icon on the screen to bring up the keyboard, then push it again and the size will adjust
I don't know if this is the same issue i get from time to time but what happens on mine is that i am able to see at lease part of the field when i input my text but when it goes past that one line it doesn't automatically scroll down so i don't know what i am typing anymore. what i do when that happens is that i go to my task manager and I stop the text messaging; when i bring it back up it is back to normal.
I get all kinds of weird things that happen in the landscape txt screen. YOur problems, and sometimes the right half of the screen will go spastic and show an inverted, backwards, distorted, partial view of the contact photo. Or the right half of the screen will look, well, scrambled, for lack of better description...
Sometimes just tapping in the entry box will fix it.
Other times I will switch to landscape, start to type on the HW keyboard only to find that it only registered the first few characters of what I wrote. I then have to tap the entry area before starting to type again
cameraddict said:
I get all kinds of weird things that happen in the landscape txt screen. YOur problems, and sometimes the right half of the screen will go spastic and show an inverted, backwards, distorted, partial view of the contact photo. Or the right half of the screen will look, well, scrambled, for lack of better description...
Sometimes just tapping in the entry box will fix it.
Other times I will switch to landscape, start to type on the HW keyboard only to find that it only registered the first few characters of what I wrote. I then have to tap the entry area before starting to type again
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for the last problem about you having to tap int he entry area before you start typing you can try this fix. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479717 i haven't installed the latest version but it work perfectly for me.
MineralGray02K said:
I've had this same error since WM 5, through 6.1, and still on 6.5. I was very disappointing to see this bug was not fixed, its such a stupid problem.
It's not a fix but instead of soft reseting just push the keyboard icon on the screen to bring up the keyboard, then push it again and the size will adjust
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Is there a way to disable the on-screen keyboard from auto-opening?..Seems like that would resolve the issue.
MineralGray02K said:
I've had this same error since WM 5, through 6.1, and still on 6.5. I was very disappointing to see this bug was not fixed, its such a stupid problem.
It's not a fix but instead of soft reseting just push the keyboard icon on the screen to bring up the keyboard, then push it again and the size will adjust
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I've had the exact same issue since getting my Tytn II when it very first came out, on the official software Orange and on my new TP2 with NRG's Photon Rom running 6.5. I can confirm that flicking the on screen keyboard on and then off rectifies the problem everytime. I don't know what causes the issue and it doesn't happen with every message a slight annoyance but opening and closing the on screen keyboard is better then soft resetting

Desire sms questions

Hi there, so I've just got my Desire a few weeks ago and all's been great, except there's a few things bugging me. My first thing is the goddamn keyboard! Now, it's a great keyboard, but I hate how the settings button is next to the comma key. Whenever I want to type a comma, I usually accidentally bring up the settings screen. Is there a way to remove that key? Or a good 3rd party keyboard that doesn't have it?
Second, whenever I try to scroll upwards through my texts, it seems to want to snap back down to the bottom. This isn't that big a deal, but it makes it hard for me to check through old texts sometimes. Is there a fix for that?
Settings button
On my Desire I have the language switching button next to the comma. It might be because I marked two languages under keyboard settings.
I'd guess pressing the language switch causes less of a problem, because you can quickly press it again to switch back to "EN". And it might even come handy to have an alternative language at hand (such as spanish, french or german if you ever need to type some words in them)
I don't seem to have the option to even do that. I'm on a Telus Desire with the 2.1 firmware.
Another thing that bugs me as well is that sometimes if someone texts me within a minute of me sending my last text, I don't get notified of it, even if my phone was locked.

[Q] How To Add Chinese To The HTC Keyboard Toggle?

i couldn't find a definitive answer for this, so I'm throwing my question out there:
I just moved to Starburst 1.3.3.4 from LeeDroid 2.3d, and now I find that Starburst, despite having Chinese language support, lacks the Chinese toggle that the stock HTC keyboard had (w/ LeeDroid had too).
Does anyone know how to put in the Chi language toggle? I've tried downloading Google's IME, and although it installed, nothing changed.
You have to change the input since you installed a new keyboard. Open up the keyboard in sms or something and in a text field, right click, well press down for few seconds and menu will pop up, select input method and change it.
Accidental discovery of solution
Meaple said:
You have to change the input since you installed a new keyboard. Open up the keyboard in sms or something and in a text field, right click, well press down for few seconds and menu will pop up, select input method and change it.
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Yep, stumbled onto this solution when my finger strayed a second too long into the SMS text box. Whaddaya know, voila! --input method came up, and the keyboard with Google IME I installed showed up.
Thanks anyway, appreciate your dropping by to assist.

[Q] Keyboard stupid question - problem with "G" and "S"

When I am trying to write a message or e-mail with my language (Greek in this case) when pressing on the natural keyboard the S or the G it thinks that I am pressing the shortcut buttons, but I am in the text area trying to write..
Every other letters are fine except those which are shortcuts.
So everytime I press S for example, it goes me back to messages. And G goes me to Gmail. (And something else I don't know which shortcut is that goes to browser.. anyway.)
If I switch to English from Settings it's all fine.
It's a bug, or a configuration some where I don't even know and I can change it?
(searching menus all day...)
Not on cm7 or a normal android rom right now so I couldn't tell u the exact setting (different on each ROM) but what you're looking for here is "quick launch buttons" or "quick launch keys" and clear them all.
sent from my HTC G2 running MIUI.
chrismfz said:
When I am trying to write a message or e-mail with my language (Greek in this case) when pressing on the natural keyboard the S or the G it thinks that I am pressing the shortcut buttons, but I am in the text area trying to write..
Every other letters are fine except those which are shortcuts.
So everytime I press S for example, it goes me back to messages. And G goes me to Gmail. (And something else I don't know which shortcut is that goes to browser.. anyway.)
If I switch to English from Settings it's all fine.
It's a bug, or a configuration some where I don't even know and I can change it?
(searching menus all day...)
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Go to settingns/applications/quick launch and disable all the shortcuts
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