Car chargers - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is it possible for different car chargers to make huge differences in charge times? Like a verizon charger doing it in less than half the time of a walmart special.
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tony5104 said:
Is it possible for different car chargers to make huge differences in charge times? Like a verizon charger doing it in less than half the time of a walmart special.
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It's possible, I know wall charger vary. The HTC charger that came with my phone is 5V at 1A I believe and the budget special charger I bought is 5V at 550mA (.55A). With any of the fast charge kernels (pre 2.2 and 2.6.32.17) I noticed a huge difference between the two chargers. I'd just look at the specs on the charger and get one closer to the factory wall charger.

i have a 1a charger thats the same as the wall charger.
its just the little plug that you stick in the ciggarette outlet and plug a usb cable into
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Belkin+...hone/9235302.p?id=1218064404513&skuId=9235302
i got mine on sale for like $12.99. barely sticks out of the outlet, never had a problem with it

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[Q] USB's and aftermarket chargers...

I want to get a few extra USB's and an extra chargers... Can someone link me to something that wont mess up my phone/has the right output?
The K-Zoo Kid said:
I want to get a few extra USB's and an extra chargers... Can someone link me to something that wont mess up my phone/has the right output?
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I bought two of these to use with my existing usb cables and wall chargers. It works great for both charging and file transfering.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-RAZR2-Original-Micro-Adapter/dp/B001E5FN20/ref=pd_cp_cps_2
The K-Zoo Kid said:
I want to get a few extra USB's and an extra chargers... Can someone link me to something that wont mess up my phone/has the right output?
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there is no "right" output
most usb ports will charge up to 500mA
the stock usb wall charger is, i think 750mA, i havent looked at it in awhile since its behind my desk, but i know its not 1A
the oem nexus one wall charger (non usb) will charge up to 1A
I would only recommend a 1A charger because there's no point to use a lower amperage, it just takes that much longer to charge your phone.
Couple of good threads on this topic, both on the vibrant and the i9000 acessories thread. Lots of good info. The deal extreme chargers look promising. Waiting to hear from a person who bought a 2amp charger if the extra 1a is used by the phone especially when using gps.
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Couple of good threads on this topic, both on the vibrant and the i9000 acessories thread. Lots of good info. The deal extreme chargers look promising. Waiting to hear from a person who bought a 2amp charger if the extra 1a is used by the phone especially when using gps.
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well, my phone will still charge (slowly) while watching avatar, which i would assume is a pretty high load on the cpu, using the 1amp charger i got from dealextreme.
fwiw, the one i have is a 1A "HTC" wall charger thats square and lights up HTC when charging, it ****s up my screen sensitivity so i wouldnt recommend it, but it was only like four dollars so i'll live with it.
link:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.41025
AC charger or car charger?
The charger does not dictate the amount of current given to the phone. The phone will only draw what it wants to. The charger can limit the maximum current but if the phone only asks for 700mA, a 2A charger will only provide the 700mA demanded by the phone.
I don't know what the max current our phones will use but having a larger charger will only help if the phone requests the larger current.
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ive been using these:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10311&cs_id=1031106&p_id=6767&seq=1&format=2
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10303#1030307
This is a pointless post and you know it...
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turbosix said:
well, my phone will still charge (slowly) while watching avatar, which i would assume is a pretty high load on the cpu, using the 1amp charger i got from dealextreme.
fwiw, the one i have is a 1A "HTC" wall charger thats square and lights up HTC when charging, it ****s up my screen sensitivity so i wouldnt recommend it, but it was only like four dollars so i'll live with it.
link:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.41025
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I'm not sure how stressful watching Avatar is from a current draw perspective. The torture test is to turn on 3G, Bluetooth, synch, GPS and run the Navigation app while driving. Some post indicate that only a true 2A charger will be able to do this w/o discharging the battery. 1A ones can only limit the discharge. Cheap ones empty quickly.
Could you check what your charge current file value is for your 1A DE charger? Make sure to use the original Samsung cable and cross check with the original Samsung charger and a USB port.
1) Use an application like ES File Manager or Astro Filemanager
2) /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_chg_current
Here are the 2 threads that I've found have a lot of charger info.
Vibrant: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749746
Galaxy S: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7933978
well, i'll come back and update with samsung usb numbers as i wont have access to it for awhile.
i checked the file when using the HTC cable plugged into my work dell and it said 850-860 after checking a a dozen times
plugged into the wall charger now and its around 700-750
is that supposed to be reporting in mA?
turbosix said:
well, i'll come back and update with samsung usb numbers as i wont have access to it for awhile.
i checked the file when using the HTC cable plugged into my work dell and it said 850-860 after checking a a dozen times
plugged into the wall charger now and its around 700-750
is that supposed to be reporting in mA?
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Yes, but I haven't heard that anyone has measured it. The numbers you are getting are consistent with what others have see. 800-900 for USB. The original Samsung 700mA charger is getting 900-1100.
If you have another Android phone try that one as well to see the differences (e.g. G1 ~300-400).
sfsilicon said:
Yes, but I haven't heard that anyone has measured it. The numbers you are getting are consistent with what others have see. 800-900 for USB. The original Samsung 700mA charger is getting 900-1100.
If you have another Android phone try that one as well to see the differences (e.g. G1 ~300-400).
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fwiw, gf's oem nexus one wall charger (non usb)
1100-1200mA
I just bought this dual usb charger so I could charge my Vibrant and my wifes blackberry. It's 2Amp (1A per port) and works great, if a little pricey, but worth it imo. I shouldn't need to buy another charger for a long time.
Griffin PowerBlock Dual Universal Charger for MP3 Players and USB Devices
(can't post links yet, google it)
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Charge with USB or the wall charger?

I know that this is a really lame question but I was wondering if one offers a "better" charge? USB charges very slowly compared to the wall charger so I dont want to use it unless I have to.
Also, why does the car charger have a USB hub for the charging cable that comes with the phone if it has a micro USB hub on the end of the cable that is connected to the charger anyways? That is just redundant, is it not?
The wall charger will charge faster... As for 'better'? A charged battery is a charged battery. If you charge it faster than the wall charger allows, there's a potential for overloading the battery (though there should be safeguards to prevent explosive results). But the wall charger is what I'd suggest.
As for the car charger, it's to allow multiple devices. Micro USB for your phone, and a USB port to plug in anything else that might need it (like an iPad or something). If you don't have 2 devices, ignore the USB port and just use the micro USB connection.
takaides said:
The wall charger will charge faster... As for 'better'? A charged battery is a charged battery. If you charge it faster than the wall charger allows, there's a potential for overloading the battery (though there should be safeguards to prevent explosive results). But the wall charger is what I'd suggest.
As for the car charger, it's to allow multiple devices. Micro USB for your phone, and a USB port to plug in anything else that might need it (like an iPad or something). If you don't have 2 devices, ignore the USB port and just use the micro USB connection.
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Thank you.
Most USB-based charging only goes at 500mA, where as the OEM charger is about 1.5 amps (1500mA). You can find some 2.0A USB car chargers on eBay / Amazon for fairly cheap. They're worth it to get a full charge if you are in a hurry or have a short commute.
Here's one that's 2.1A for $9.99 on Amazon
Cheyse said:
Most USB-based charging only goes at 500mA, where as the OEM charger is about 1.5 amps (1500mA).
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I've noticed that it chargers obscenely quickly with the little OEM charger. Any idea where to buy more of those (or more similarly powerful chargers?)
wanderfowl said:
I've noticed that it chargers obscenely quickly with the little OEM charger. Any idea where to buy more of those (or more similarly powerful chargers?)
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Amazon/eBay is your friend. You can find plenty of 2amp USB chargers for like $9 with free shipping.
Cheyse said:
Amazon/eBay is your friend. You can find plenty of 2amp USB chargers for like $9 with free shipping.
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Silly question, but as long as it's a 5 volt 2 amp MicroUSB charger, it'll work? I just don't want to fry my phone using some incompatible charger.
wanderfowl said:
Silly question, but as long as it's a 5 volt 2 amp MicroUSB charger, it'll work? I just don't want to fry my phone using some incompatible charger.
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yeah that should work. All Modern day phones have a voltage regulator to stop overcharging.
Warning: iPad Charger
I tried using the iPad charger yesterday and that didn't work out very well. My phone turned off and didn't charge. I couldn't turn it back on, had to do a battery pull to get it going again.
Not sure if this is an isolated incident or not, but I'm going to stick with my Nexus and/or USB charger.
bigknowz said:
I tried using the iPad charger yesterday and that didn't work out very well. My phone turned off and didn't charge. I couldn't turn it back on, had to do a battery pull to get it going again.
Not sure if this is an isolated incident or not, but I'm going to stick with my Nexus and/or USB charger.
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I used an iPad charger a month ago and the phone only charged 40% over seven hours and when I picked it up it was scorching hot.
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joshnichols189 said:
I used an iPad charger a month ago and the phone only charged 40% over seven hours and when I picked it up it was scorching hot.
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It makes sense that your phone got hot. When using the stock charger (or any charger with a current rating of 1A or less), the charger is the one that is limiting the current to the battery, so the current-limiting circuit in the phone is not necessarily active and therefore not generating much heat. However, when using the iPad charger (which is rated around 2.5A, I think), the current-limiting circuit in the charger is not active because the 1A or so that the phone is drawing is well within the rating of the charger. Therefore in this case, the current-limiting circuit in the phone needs to actively limit the current and thereby generate a lot of heat.
I personally think that it's better to just use a charger that has a similar current rating to the stock charger. I higher-rated one might charge the battery just fine, but I'd rather keep all of that heat in the charger and away from the battery. Although, of course I could be mistaken -- feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Car charger that charges at wall charger speeds?

Any car chargers that anyone could point me to that charges as fast as a wall charger?
As it is right now, unless I have my screen off and no apps running it drains faster than the charger can put juice into it...
I'm just using an el-cheap-o aftermarket car charger.
Thanks!
JWhipple said:
Any car chargers that anyone could point me to that charges as fast as a wall charger?
As it is right now, unless I have my screen off and no apps running it drains faster than the charger can put juice into it...
I'm just using an el-cheap-o aftermarket car charger.
Thanks!
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What I use is a cig to usb plug (cost me 10 bucks at walmart). Then I bring the cord from home that came with my phone and plug that into the USB to cig thingy. Works like a charm, I haven't noticed it charging slower than when at home.
JWhipple said:
Any car chargers that anyone could point me to that charges as fast as a wall charger?
As it is right now, unless I have my screen off and no apps running it drains faster than the charger can put juice into it...
I'm just using an el-cheap-o aftermarket car charger.
Thanks!
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http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi...Q9CA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331233635&sr=8-1
i bought one from t-mobile... its about $29 but its worth the price. I get charge speeds btw 850ma and 950ma when on idle
i have the oem cig to usb charger from Samsung i purchased it at best buy with a gift card lol, when i first got my galaxy tablet.
Just get any standard microusb charger rated at 1a (or 1000mAh ). I'm betting your elcheapo is .5a (500mAh).
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I finally got around to ordering that Motorola charger on Amazon - works just how I wanted it to - thanks so much!
our device requires an official samsung charger to charge at full ac speed. there was an article on the xda front page last week about how to mod your charger to be recognized as official.
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jordanishere said:
our device requires an official samsung charger to charge at full ac speed. there was an article on the xda front page last week about how to mod your charger to be recognized as official.
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All I know is that now I can run my GPS with the screen on and still move UP in battery - before it would drain faster than the car charger would charge, so, I'm happy with what I have now.
Actually the problem is that some of the car chargers are not at 1amp output but less .75 or .85. Thats why your not really seeing an increase. The stock charger is at 1amp. I know AllGamer likes to use the Blackberry ones (which i believe are 1.5amps) Correct me if im wrong AllGamer.
So just look for 1 amp car chargers the cable doesnt matter itll hold whatever you attach it to.
So, no matter wht brand charger you have as long as you connect the two middle pins you will get full charge as long as the charger can put out 1000ma?
I really need a good charger for the car, right now i use a blackberry charger at work an it charges pretty fast. But i need to know how do i find the currect charge rate of a charger. Is there an app for that?
Get tmobiles car charger. Its faster than any others I've tried.
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Can it be had on the cheap
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Here it is ... cheap! $3.49 you dont get cheaper than that! =)
Charger
As I remember those chargers needed the center pins shorted to be recognized as AC.
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Wareazy said:
Here it is ... cheap! $3.49 you dont get cheaper than that! =)
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This charger doesn't keep up. I have one. It will still drain faster than it charges if you're running a GPS app with the screen on.
Does anyone have an experience with this charger from MONOPRICE
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p..._id=1082603&p_id=8858&seq=1&format=4#feedback
I need a great car charger and really dont want to spend to much money on it. Furthermore, if I am getting a 1+amp charger, as long as i am using the stock samsung charging cable then it shouldnt matter if the charger itself has D- and D+ shorted right?
Im assuming this is something standard on all usb CHARGING cables as appose to data cables.?
Dougshell said:
Does anyone have an experience with this charger from MONOPRICE
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p..._id=1082603&p_id=8858&seq=1&format=4#feedback
I need a great car charger and really dont want to spend to much money on it. Furthermore, if I am getting a 1+amp charger, as long as i am using the stock samsung charging cable then it shouldnt matter if the charger itself has D- and D+ shorted right?
Im assuming this is something standard on all usb CHARGING cables as appose to data cables.?
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You want a good reliable charger at eBay pricing..... spend the money 1 time and be done with it. You could've already gotten the T-Mobile one and been done with it.
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For those of you buying the USB 12V Cigarette adapters read this.
Basically if you use a data sync cord with one of those adapters, unless it shorts the 2 data pins together internally (probably not) the phone is going to think it's plugged into a computer and only charge at 500ma (max output for a computer USB port). The write up above explains to short the 2 data cables together (this is done internally with the main AC charger head) back towards the phone so it will charge at 1amp instead of 500ma.
You can buy this cable and just modify it as described. I bought this USB adapter so I could charge 2 things at once.
Let me get this clear.
All i need to look for when it is charging is AC mode. As long as it says that, it doesnt matter what i have or have not done to the cables, AC mode is AC mode.
The charger i am looking at getting is 2.1 amp (because it has a spare usb port...so 1amp per line) and when i plug it in and it says AC MODE then its good to go right.
I just bought a TMOBILE offical charger that shows AC MODE, so when it MONOPRICE charger arrives i can compare. If it doesnt work its another 5 bucks, if it does i can take the tmo one back.
But again i am just wondering are there any caveats to AC MODE, or is it that once AC mode shows that is all that matters.

HTC One Charger

Can anyone recommend a charger that actually works and charges the HTC One? I ordered an "OEM Charger" from Amazon and it did not work. Now after reading a bunch of reviews for whatever charger I find, people claim that those chargers dont work.
Evolancer13 said:
Can anyone recommend a charger that actually works and charges the HTC One? I ordered an "OEM Charger" from Amazon and it did not work. Now after reading a bunch of reviews for whatever charger I find, people claim that those chargers dont work.
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I have used multiple chargers that I had with Nokia devices and in car I three different "no name" chargers, all of them work as should. With one Nokia charger I get notification that tells that charging isn't that fast as it could with different charger.
I've used the chargers I had from my Samsung Epic. They work fine. Also, the iHome two port usb wall charger I got at Wal-Mart does great with one of the cables I still had laying around. Sometimes I use the charger at work that came with our Kyocera DirectConnect phones.
I think the key is just to make sure any charger you use is at least 1amp.
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I'd order a charger from ebay, and it takes about 6 hours to charge the phone.
Also, something is wrong because when I pick up the phone, I feel something weird on the speaker.
So I recommend to use the original one ! It takes less than 3 hours to charge the phone.
I use the one from my old s3. Actually charges faster than the original
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Any wall charger with a 1A (Amp) output will be ideal for the One. A lot of the "rapid" chargers have about a 500 - 650mA (milliamp) output (about half of the power of the genuine charger). It won't do any damage if it's lower than 1A, but it will take a lot longer to charge it.
Don't be cheap on chargers though, the cheaper the charger, the more likely it will be to fail after a month, and potentially damage your charging port.
Thanks for the responses! I will look into chargers with 1.0 A charging, I have been using an LG charger that my dad had laying around.
I am no fan of verizion at all and didn't feel like driving to my local att store so..
I bought a 5v/2.1amp Verizon charger for 15$
6' long cord with an led light at the tip to help light up the usb port on the phone when trying to plug in. Also the base has an led light which lights up to let you know when the device is fully charged
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Johnny424 said:
I am no fan of verizion at all and didn't feel like driving to my local att store so..
I bought a 5v/2.1amp Verizon charger for 15$
6' long cord with an led light at the tip to help light up the usb port on the phone when trying to plug in. Also the base has an led light which lights up to let you know when the device is fully charged
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I think using a >1 A charger may damage our batteries in the long run. I wouldn't recommend going beyond the 1 A of the stock charger.
raghav2511 said:
I think using a >1 A charger may damage our batteries in the long run. I wouldn't recommend going beyond the 1 A of the stock charger.
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False. Current is taken, not given, meaning the phone only pulls 1 amp from a 2A charger. I have verified this personally using Battery Monitor Widget. It displays the current charge/discharge current and reads 1A with my 2A charger.
I'm surprised so many people have problems with chargers. I have used Samsung, Asus, and some random Walmart chargers, and they all have worked at 1A. Maybe the people with problems are using really crappy or broken chargers?
I've been using an LG Charger, 4.8V and 1.0 A.
As far as i know, it doesn't really matter if its 1 or 2 amp, since its just the max output and it depends on the phone to use a certain ammount of amps. Voltage is what is important when it comes to providing a secure charging i think.

[Q] Best Charger for OPO

So I'm looking to buy some additional chargers for my OPO. But unfortunately you cannot buy the official charger seperatly. Are there any 3rd party chargers that work just as well? I have a few at home that just don't seem to charge the phone fast enough (also, I think it does not hold the charge as long with these chargers, but that could be the placebo effect.) What should I be looking for in a good charger? Is the wall piece more important that the USB cord. Does the type of USB cord even matter if the wall piece has the right "specs". Any suggestions for chargers to buy (preferably on Amazon since I have Prime).
Thanks for the help!
Definitely look got chargers with high A. I noticed that on my old chargers were the A was 1.3, it would not charge the phone or would charge very slowly. The stock charger is great, I use a different USB cable so it's longer in length.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo.../hands-best-fastest-cheapest-nexus-5-t2729066 is a good charger, for $5 you can get two of them. They're 1.8A slightly less than the stock oneplus one charger but works very well and the length is very long and is cheap.
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Definitely look got chargers with high A. I noticed that on my old chargers were the A was 1.3, it would not charge the phone or would charge very slowly. The stock charger is great, I use a different USB cable so it's longer in length.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo.../hands-best-fastest-cheapest-nexus-5-t2729066 is a good charger, for $5 you can get two of them. They're 1.8A slightly less than the stock oneplus one charger but works very well and the length is very long and is cheap.
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What is the stock details of the OEM chargers? Not got mine yet and I usually use some old HTC chargers which are 5V/1amp
Cool, thanks man.
I just used that link and unfortunately ( I found more for a few more $ but I can wait.) they are unavailable at this time but ill keep my eye open.
EddyOS said:
What is the stock details of the OEM chargers? Not got mine yet and I usually use some old HTC chargers which are 5V/1amp
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5v=2a
yeah most of mine are around 1a
The galaxy S4 and up chargers are 2A. If you can find some around somewhere.
The OnePlus charger is a 2A 5V part and the included USB cable charges it relatively fast. However, the small length of the cable pissed me off.
I ended up getting 2 of these - http://www.siig.com/it-products/it-accessories/mobile-phone-accessories/3-1a-ac-dc-usb-charger.html . It has a little 1A USB charge port addon for use in the car's 12V port. The main USB port on the charger is a 2.1A port if I remember correctly. Charges as fast or faster than the OnePlus charger included.
The charger has a little removable two-prong plug (like the Apple chargers) and you can stick any random two-pin power cord on this end, basically giving you as much length as you need. That's what I liked a lot about these. Annoying thing though is the blue LED, a bit bright but nothing electrical tape won't fix.
EDIT: Use any charging-only cable, one of the Samsung 2A cables or the Oneplus One cable itself for fast chargng.
I just got this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GTGETFG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004GF8TIK/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
coupled they are killer. The anker hub is amazing...will provide PLENTY of power to anything plugged into it, and the mediabridge cable is 24 AWG, so it can handle the 2amp that the phone requires...plus it's very long.
the blackberry playbook chargers work great. they have long cords and are < $5 on amazon.
i ordered these: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00K8HY132/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
they charge fast and work well.

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