I'm a developer and I want to develop my first official market app. I've developed a couple of applications but just for personal use and experience. I have gathered a group of very talented developers and we are onto something big.
What would be an app that you would like to see developed? The app (or apps) with the most popular demand will get started on immediately.
We've been considering a couple of ideas. Anyone down for Airplay for android? tun tun tuuuuun..or maybe not. Maybe a crazy cross platform game?
We are open to suggestions.
Thanks
oblivior72 said:
I'm a developer and I want to develop my first official market app. I've developed a couple of applications but just for personal use and experience. I have gathered a group of very talented developers and we are onto something big.
What would be an app that you would like to see developed? The app (or apps) with the most popular demand will get started on immediately.
We've been considering a couple of ideas. Anyone down for Airplay for android? tun tun tuuuuun..or maybe not. Maybe a crazy cross platform game?
We are open to suggestions.
Thanks
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This is an easy one
Develop and apk that fully integrates your Contacts with your Calendar. So if I want to schedule an appointment with John I just go to is contact record and select "make appointment". It then creates a link between John and the Calendar for that appointment. So if you are looking at the appointment you can easily call John, navigate to using address or add notes to his record.
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Thats not a bad idea. I understand where you are coming from. It would actually come in handy. It would have to be an extension to the original android operating system. Unless I were to make an entire new contact app that would integrate these features easily.
Towards the end you say "..looking at the appointment you can easily..."
do you want to be able to just click his address from the calendar and open up navigator?
I'm too lazy to pick up the books and relearn what all I need to know, but, I've had this idea tossing around in my head for awhile.
Make an app to basically create a data set and determine your battery estimated maH, and if you need to recallibrate it. Once you have all that data, there are tons of things you can do with it as well, its just a matter of making the program light weight enough to run in the background so it doesn't re-do calculations and eat up juice.
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An actual tv remote
animal7296 said:
An actual tv remote
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Considering most TVs use IR, and the evo lacks an IR port, there is quite a substantial hardware limitation.
How about a torrent app? Utorrent?
here you go look read this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
you make this app AND ILL SCRATCH UR BUTT AND CALL U DADDY LOL
make a app that prints me real 100 dollar bills lol jk
oblivior72 said:
Thats not a bad idea. I understand where you are coming from. It would actually come in handy. It would have to be an extension to the original android operating system. Unless I were to make an entire new contact app that would integrate these features easily.
Towards the end you say "..looking at the appointment you can easily..."
do you want to be able to just click his address from the calendar and open up navigator?
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The concept is so that you can create an appointment for a contact in your calendar that is linked between the contact and the calendar.
For instance, when I make an appointment with Joe, Joe's information such as his phone number and address are instantly accessible from the calendar. That way if I need navigation to Joe's address I can access it directly from the appointment without having to manually type it into the calendar program.
These links could also easily allow me to say "show me all appointments for Joe". Or if I am on way to Joe's and running late I can call or text Joe from the appointment record instead of having to look it up.
The idea is to automate and reduce duplication of effort. Never type the same information twice - link to it instead. There is an app called "Contact Event" that comes close to doing this the but it doesn't actually create a link, it just pastes contact data automatically into the calendar record when creating it. The difference would be the link which would make it a relational database concept as opposed to just cut and paste.
When creating a new contact your app should also generate a Primary Key that uniquely identifies that contact. Then when you make an appointment for that contact, you simply drop their Primary Key into the appointment record, link the two tables and you are done.
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jhoffy22 said:
How about a torrent app? Utorrent?
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There's already torrent apps. AndTorrent and Swarm.
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animal7296 said:
An actual tv remote
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Phajen is absolutely correct, the problem comes with the hardware limitation. It's almost ipossible unless the tv itself is on wifi
krazydude4g said:
here you go look read this one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
you make this app AND ILL SCRATCH UR BUTT AND CALL U DADDY LOL
make a app that prints me real 100 dollar bills lol jk
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Trust me if I knew how to develop something like this I wouldnt be looking for ideas on forums.
What you CAN do is take one dollar bills remove the metallic ink they have on them if you put them to soak in sodium combined with carbon...ehhhh.....never mind.
mitchellvii said:
The concept is so that you can create an appointment for a contact in your calendar that is linked between the contact and the calendar.
For instance, when I make an appointment with Joe, Joe's information such as his phone number and address are instantly accessible from the calendar. That way if I need navigation to Joe's address I can access it directly from the appointment without having to manually type it into the calendar program.
These links could also easily allow me to say "show me all appointments for Joe". Or if I am on way to Joe's and running late I can call or text Joe from the appointment record instead of having to look it up.
The idea is to automate and reduce duplication of effort. Never type the same information twice - link to it instead. There is an app called "Contact Event" that comes close to doing this the but it doesn't actually create a link, it just pastes contact data automatically into the calendar record when creating it. The difference would be the link which would make it a relational database concept as opposed to just cut and paste.
When creating a new contact your app should also generate a Primary Key that uniquely identifies that contact. Then when you make an appointment for that contact, you simply drop their Primary Key into the appointment record, link the two tables and you are done.
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Interesting...I'm gonna check Contact and Event and see what it's like, I would just have to beef it up a little bit. I will get back to you one this but I like the idea.
An app that lets you add on to the existing code to your liking.
Or a series of apps, a basic twitter client, a home launcher, a clock widget. Something easy we could build on *from the phone* without the use of Eclipse. If that's at all possible.
We now have Stericson's Signapktic app that allows us to sign zips, apks, and jar file from our phone so we're slowly getting closer to something like that.
Stericson's apps are pretty awesome.
How about and app that lets you dynamically re-arrange your homescreens without havin to drag icons around?
You can do this in the MIUI Rom but I hate the apple-like interface so I dont use that rom.
I know u woild get rich off the apl alone lol
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in line call recording
please create an evo ap that will record calls without the speakerphone activated.
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Hi, i have a simple chat style sms application i am using on my T-Mobile SDA and i would like to port it to T-Mobile DASH. What should be the Form size so that it would fit the DASH screen?
The screen on a Dash is 320x240 pixels large, and after the browser steals viewing space the user gets about 300x220ish or so in usable space. If you need to do specific testing simply PM me and I would be more than willing to help out and give screen shots on how things look. If you wish to work independently you might want to look into the Microsoft emulators which have been made by Microsoft so people can emulate smart phone devices for testing programs and sites for this exact purpose.
thanks for the quick reply I will try to create blank form and PM you ASAP. I have just bought my excalibur online and havent received it yet so i cant test it on an actual unit.
Is this app a 'replacement' for the messaging account in outlook? Or will the messages continue to go to the existing inbox. Also, is MMS supported? I have waited so long for an app as good as the Palm Messaging beta, created specifically for a smartphone.
Orientation Aware Control
Hey oldsap,
I'm a mobile developer by trade and if you're looking for a flexible way to handle resolutions etc to make you're app a little more portable, take a look at the Orientation Aware Control that microsoft's patterns and practices group created:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa480471.aspx
It can be downloaded from codeplex. Basically, you create a single form and it uses a resource file to store settings for various resolutions (control layout etc). No more need to make multiple copies of a form for each resolution you want to support. Good luck, hope that helps!
- Brian
curtislanham said:
Is this app a 'replacement' for the messaging account in outlook? Or will the messages continue to go to the existing inbox. Also, is MMS supported? I have waited so long for an app as good as the Palm Messaging beta, created specifically for a smartphone.
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for the time being, ive created this to intercept all incoming sms so that they wont go to the inbox. But i can re-code it so that when a new sms arrives:
1. sms wont go to the existing inbox
2. sms will go to both the application AND inbox
it's not a perfect chat style application but it works well for me.
im still waiting for my DASH to arrive (ordered it from ebay) When i have ported it to DASH, ill post it here
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Hey oldsap,
I'm a mobile developer by trade and if you're looking for a flexible way to handle resolutions etc to make you're app a little more portable, take a look at the Orientation Aware Control that microsoft's patterns and practices group created:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa480471.aspx
It can be downloaded from codeplex. Basically, you create a single form and it uses a resource file to store settings for various resolutions (control layout etc). No more need to make multiple copies of a form for each resolution you want to support. Good luck, hope that helps!
- Brian
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Thanks for the tip sir. I'll read about this. Im just a newbie programmer and can only create very very simple applications
I would have to say that a threaded SMS app is not simple!
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I would have to say that a threaded SMS app is not simple!
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i refer to my application as "simple" compared to PALM's threaded sms because it only uses Textbox instead of XML. It doesnt use colored fonts to distinguish sent and received sms. But it does have other features like save chat window, group sending, sms sent counter, sms filtering, etc
I am currently using a Topaz windows mobile based phone, and thinking about switching to a Desire.
However, I use my phone extensively for business, and need to know if there are some things that Android will allow.
First off, I need to be able to access my home network with the wireless. Currently I use Resco explorer, browse to my server share, and copy the files I will need to the SD card. Is this possible on Android? Is it just as easy? I often have to do this first thing in the morning, when I don't have a lot of time. This is an absolute deal breaker for me, so I am really looking for some help before I commit to a new phone.
Non show stoppers but nice to have;
Cookie's Home Tab type display , which allows me to show my next 3 calendar appointments, and 3 tasks on the home screen. Will Sense allow this on the Desire? I like the Sense interface and widgets, so would prefer to keep Sense, but am prepared to apply additional software to allow me to do what I need to. (Paid or otherwise).
The ability to map hardware keys to specific functions (eg I currently have long press on the back key to switch off my wifi. Handy for in the car, when I forget to switch it off).
Ability to edit open office, and ms office documents.
That's it I guess. Any and all feedback very much appreciated.
1) yes you can browse files on your home network using the desire, you need 3rd party software tho also there are apps that will let you controll your pc and or device remotlely from your device and or pc
2) there are loads of calendar widgets on the marketplace im sure one will take your fancy
3) the wifi will switch itself off after x amout of time idle
4) the desire comes with quick office out of the box but there are tons of office apps so yeah
Just a small warning if you think to sync your mobile with the PC (callendar, notes, mails, contacts) via bluetooth - it's not possible in android.
Well, not entirely true, as there is "Missing Sync" in the market, but costs for about $40 - a bit too much.
So, try to love your usb cable
Or sync through the google things and sync your home stuff with the google things. For me it's annoying as I hate the google things, but it does sort of work.
dysje said:
Or sync through the google things and sync your home stuff with the google things. For me it's annoying as I hate the google things, but it does sort of work.
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Why would you buy a google thing-centric phone if you hate google things?
On it's way
Thanks guys, you've convinced me.
Ordered from O2 for the princely sum of £285 + VAT, which I thought was a mistake, but it seems not. Be rude not to at that price.
Bit of luck it will arrive tomorrow, as I'm not working, so can play all day
JohnSteveDoe said:
Why would you buy a google thing-centric phone if you hate google things?
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Just to give one example - I would not want to share with google my company contacts.
Also I preffer to keep business calendar outside of google (with all the respect)
Regards
R
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remmyhi said:
Just to give one example - I would not want to share with google my company contacts.
Also I preffer to keep business calendar outside of google (with all the respect)
Regards
R
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You're not "sharing" with google though. You're just using their webspace to host information such as calendar and contacts.
Do you really think that Google have the time to look though all of their user's data, see your calendar information and contacts?
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You're not "sharing" with google though. You're just using their webspace to host information such as calendar and contacts.
Do you really think that Google have the time to look though all of their user's data, see your calendar information and contacts?
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lol ..........
brummiesteven said:
You're not "sharing" with google though. You're just using their webspace to host information such as calendar and contacts.
Do you really think that Google have the time to look though all of their user's data, see your calendar information and contacts?
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Why would they bother with your phone when they've got street view cars to access open WiFi networks?
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Most people here swear by Astro file manager and their add ons.
Check out the Sense agenda widget for upcoming appointments and tasks.
Widgets are the way to go, Sense widgets for WiFi, mobile connectivity, airplane mode etc etc etc......
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Thanks JabbaFat32.
Will check both of those out.
So I have found a new launcher that has great potential. Kind of reminds me of Wisbar Desktop from my WM days as you can put items anywhere on the screen and they are not locked into a grid like every other launcher. Besides swiping your pages side to side, you can also scroll down on each page like WP7.
Has lots customizations and the developer is extremely responses. Received a email back from him within 15 minutes after contacting him. Still has some bugs and he is aware of them and is constantly working on it.
I am running my screen at 720p and I totally recommend that as you can get lots on your screen!
It is free as well!
SSLauncher:
https://market.android.com/details?...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5zcy5sYXVuY2hlciJd
Here is a screen shot for ya...
I have been using this for a few days now and have to agree...coolest launcher I have used so far. This is as cool and "revolutionary" as when ADW and Launcher Pro came out for the first time.
From the market page:
Permissions
This application has access to the following:
Services that cost you money
directly call phone numbers
Allows the application to call phone numbers without your intervention. Malicious applications may cause unexpected calls on your phone bill. Note that this does not allow the application to call emergency numbers.
Network communication
full Internet access
Allows an application to create network sockets.
Your personal information
read contact data
Allows an application to read all of the contact (address) data stored on your device. Malicious applications can use this to send your data to other people.
read Browser's history and bookmarks
Allows the application to read all the URLs that the Browser has visited, and all of the Browser's bookmarks.
write Browser's history and bookmarks
Allows an application to modify the Browser's history or bookmarks stored on your device. Malicious applications can use this to erase or modify your Browser's data.
Storage
modify/delete USB storage contents modify/delete SD card contents
Allows an application to write to the USB storage. Allows an application to write to the SD card.
I would need an explanation of why it needs permissions to make phone calls without my intervention before I can install it. I might be paranoid here, but that whole "without my intervention" bugs me.
I'll try this out but how do you get the magazine look for the page turn
Its smooth but I don't like how icons are not applied on a grid. Everything is free-standing and I can't get anything to align. Its really bothering me.
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darthstewie said:
From the market page:
Permissions
This application has access to the following:
Services that cost you money
directly call phone numbers
Allows the application to call phone numbers without your intervention. Malicious applications may cause unexpected calls on your phone bill. Note that this does not allow the application to call emergency numbers.
Network communication
full Internet access
Allows an application to create network sockets.
Your personal information
read contact data
Allows an application to read all of the contact (address) data stored on your device. Malicious applications can use this to send your data to other people.
read Browser's history and bookmarks
Allows the application to read all the URLs that the Browser has visited, and all of the Browser's bookmarks.
write Browser's history and bookmarks
Allows an application to modify the Browser's history or bookmarks stored on your device. Malicious applications can use this to erase or modify your Browser's data.
Storage
modify/delete USB storage contents modify/delete SD card contents
Allows an application to write to the USB storage. Allows an application to write to the SD card.
I would need an explanation of why it needs permissions to make phone calls without my intervention before I can install it. I might be paranoid here, but that whole "without my intervention" bugs me.
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because its a launcher/app. If you were to set a contacts icon on the screen for direct dial or something like that, you would not be able to make a call because you didn't want that permission.
I'm pretty sure every launcher needs that permission.
I can't believe I didn't think of that. I don't add contact shortcuts, but it does make sense. I think I'll go download it now.
jxb25 said:
I'll try this out but how do you get the magazine look for the page turn
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Menu/theme/animation
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Menu/theme/animation
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Thankx for the help
I think it's really nice but it crashes WAY too much.
iSkylla said:
I think it's really nice but it crashes WAY too much.
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Running CM7.
Haven't had a single crash yet.
I'm a complete ADWEX honk, always have been, but I must say that I really, really, like this launcher. The page-turning anims are simple but sick, IMHO, and it's such a lightweight launcher in general, I think I'm gonna keep this one for a while....
Very nice.
["hip", "hip"]
mazook98 said:
Running CM7.
Haven't had a single crash yet.
I'm a complete ADWEX honk, always have been, but I must say that I really, really, like this launcher. The page-turning anims are simple but sick, IMHO, and it's such a lightweight launcher in general, I think I'm gonna keep this one for a while....
Very nice.
["hip", "hip"]
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The developer is aware of the issues and is currently working on fixing them. I run into problems editing pages after I add a lot of items on the homepage.
Totally agree this can be the best launcher to date with as little more work.
If you haven't tried yet, drag items to the bottom of the screen as fat as can go and you will see you can then scroll the page down. There are probably so many cool things to do in the launcher. If anyone figures some tricks out, post it up!
has anyone figured out how to get a calendar widget to work?
Android agenda widget or any other full screen calendar widget doesn't want to work
so far, that's the only issue I have..really cool stuff!
thanks!
wase4711 said:
has anyone figured out how to get a calendar widget to work?
Android agenda widget or any other full screen calendar widget doesn't want to work
so far, that's the only issue I have..really cool stuff!
thanks!
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Simple Calendar widget works fine. Just do not choose the scroll option in the widget. Any widget that scrolls will not work.
thanks man, it was the "scrolling" option that was messing me up...
EDIT:
I have to say, once a couple small things work out, like sculling widgets, this launcher is going to be super hot...
Never saw anything so customizable as this launcher is..
wase4711 said:
has anyone figured out how to get a calendar widget to work?
Android agenda widget or any other full screen calendar widget doesn't want to work
so far, that's the only issue I have..really cool stuff!
thanks!
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double post....
mazook98 said:
Running CM7.
Haven't had a single crash yet.
I'm a complete ADWEX honk, always have been, but I must say that I really, really, like this launcher. The page-turning anims are simple but sick, IMHO, and it's such a lightweight launcher in general, I think I'm gonna keep this one for a while....
Very nice.
["hip", "hip"]
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I was on the fence about this one but with that comment I'm surely going to try it now. Thanks mazook and thanks eman for bringing it up
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Another cool trick I just noticed for lining up apps and widgets on the screen...
Hold down whatever you want to move. Then let your finger off of it to bring up the little menu that says edit, etc. Then either click the back button or touch somewhere else on the screen and it will leave your item highlighted. In cse you didn't know, at this point you can re-size your widget but if you move the whole widget around you will see red lines show up when it is lined up with other items near it making it simple to know where you are placing it.
It is kind of hard to explain but try and and you will understand what I am talking about....
Its pretty cool and has A LOT of potential.
pretty cool but could've been better
As above. Can't because there is no demand, can it? One of the big let-downs for me coming from PalmOS and Agendus is the really week Calendar app. Let's not get into the bizarre two week limit on past events! I also miss the tweakability of ChatterEmail. But that was then ...
So why no PIM or email apps? Is it a programming issue? Is the WP market entertainment, not enterprise? Will it change with Apollo/WP8?
Just wondering.
PS: other than that I love WP7. Just hoping for more.
truthfully the built in is so good and i use exchange so i never really thought about it. I also have yet to see anyone but you so far ask for it, so i am not thinking the demand is there yet. I have see in the marketplace a few task and calendar apps though.
ROCOAFZ said:
truthfully the built in is so good and i use exchange so i never really thought about it. I also have yet to see anyone but you so far ask for it, so i am not thinking the demand is there yet. I have see in the marketplace a few task and calendar apps though.
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PIM was very useful on WM, I don't understand why there is no demand for it? I guess it is what it is, Don't want to even ask because I don't what to hear some [email protected]$$ fanboy comment about that feature is so 1999 or something.
The real reason is that everything is sandboxed.
You don't have direct access. You used to just import poutlook.dll Then you could send an email. It would go into the phone's outbox for the account you wanted to send with. It would get sent on the next sync.
Now, you will be asked if you want to send the mail.
Also, I don't think there is any way to programatically get at the content of your emails. This is actually a good security piece. Imagine a dev writing a pretty cool app. You use it. Only months later you find that the content of all email messages on your phone were being sent to the dev while you used the app through a http post.
This is the why. Now, Microsoft could provide controls that would access this information.
Back in Windows Mobile, I wrote an app for users of Sense that also used the Facebook tab that would go through all of your contacts that were linked to Facebook. It would let the user update the contact with the Facebook pic. It used poutlook.dll.
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truthfully the built in is so good and i use exchange so i never really thought about it.
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Built-in so good? I don't think so. Good as far as it goes maybe. I too use Exchange, that's the backend. It's the presentation of the PIM data that is so lacking.
Needs more views. Today summary. Ledger view for day. 5/7 day week view. A proper month view, with readable text and icons. Templates, filtering. Ability to duplicate events. Tasks in the tile. Lots of little things. When I think what could be packed into my little 320 X 320 Centro display ...
Have a look at the features in the iOS and Android versions of PocketInformant or Agendus.
While I'm at it, the email app needs customisable notifications per mailbox.
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The real reason is that everything is sandboxed.
You don't have direct access.
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The more I look, the more I'm getting that message. Just have to see what the future holds.
conorn said:
Built-in so good? I don't think so. Good as far as it goes maybe. I too use Exchange, that's the backend. It's the presentation of the PIM data that is so lacking.
Needs more views. Today summary. Ledger view for day. 5/7 day week view. A proper month view, with readable text and icons. Templates, filtering. Ability to duplicate events. Tasks in the tile. Lots of little things. When I think what could be packed into my little 320 X 320 Centro display ...
Have a look at the features in the iOS and Android versions of PocketInformant or Agendus.
While I'm at it, the email app needs customisable notifications per mailbox.
The more I look, the more I'm getting that message. Just have to see what the future holds.
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PIM is only needed for sms and history. Exchange or hotmail backs up the rest when you put contacts in unless you don't have a data plan. And if you want it all backed up... here yah go (only for stock roms)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346276
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Needs more views. Today summary. Ledger view for day. 5/7 day week view. A proper month view, with readable text and icons. Templates, filtering. Ability to duplicate events. Tasks in the tile. Lots of little things. When I think what could be packed into my little 320 X 320 Centro display ...
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Let me break this down for you...
Duplicate events... go to the event, scroll down, hit more details. press occurs, Choose once, everyday, every weekday, every saturday, every (Day number) of the month, ever month day (as in yearly)
For Tasks in the tile - while on agenda,
Week view? for someone that has a lot of appointments, weekview is never readable, same with month. At least in month you can tell there is an appointment and click on it.
For tasks tile that syncs with exchange try this one - http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/3455bef8-895d-49d6-9c71-131a8fd0106a
They do however show in agenda once you have opened the task
ROCOAFZ. Maybe you don't understand what I was trying to explain (BOTD). Also, please don't be so defensive, I'm not trying to diss WP. I'll be in for the long run. But if I see (IMO) a weakness I will point it out. And to me the functionality in the Calendar app is poor. Especially when other parts of the OS are so good.
Responding to your points ...
Firstly, forget about Exchange, etc. I'm not talking about backing up. I'm talking about the presentation and management of the data. I don't care where it's stored. Could be local, could be cloud - doesn't matter.
Secondly, when I use the term PIM, I mean it in the broadest possible way. I want to manage my personal info. Traditionally, on PDAs, that meant calendar, contacts and tasks. Smartphones have replaced PDAs, so now I want my current smartphone to do this at least as well.
Thirdly, the intent of the original post was to query why there are no 3rd-party PIM-type apps available for WP7. There are for iOS and Android, even BB. There were for WM6 and PalmOS. Why not WP7? A couple of replies confirmed what I suspected. The OS doesn't provide the access programmers need. Everything is very hands-off. Maybe this will change in future releases. there are indications that this may be so.
Finally, some specific comments -
ROCOAFZ said:
Duplicate events... go to the event, scroll down, hit more details. press occurs, Choose once, everyday, every weekday, every saturday, every (Day number) of the month, ever month day (as in yearly)
For Tasks in the tile - while on agenda,
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No, I'm talking about duplicating existing appointments. Not recurring events, i.e., I had a meeting today at 2pm. We agree to meet again on Friday at 4pm. All other details the same. Previously I would quickly duplicate the event, update the date/time and I'm done. Now I must create from scratch. I right-click drag in Outlook, Google Calendar has Duplicate in More Actions - so it's not just me.
ROCOAFZ said:
Week view? for someone that has a lot of appointments, weekview is never readable, same with month. At least in month you can tell there is an appointment and click on it.
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My choice to decide, but at least give me the choice. In month view I want to see better indicators. Maybe the smallish Lumia 800 display is at fault, or my chosen theme, but I really have difficulty noticing the existing (pretend) indications and they give no indication of what's there (task, appointment, all-day event). There is plenty of room to show boxes and bars for an 'at a glance' overview of my time. Especially in landscape view. BTW, what happened Categories?
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For tasks tile that syncs with exchange try this one - TaskTask
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Thanks. That, and some others, look interesting. But comes back to the issue raised by others. The only way to get at the tasks data is to go direct to the server. Shouldn't have to do that. It does work though, but should be in sync with inbuilt, not duplicating functionality.
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Responding to your points ...
Firstly, forget about Exchange, etc. I'm not talking about backing up. I'm talking about the presentation and management of the data. I don't care where it's stored. Could be local, could be cloud - doesn't matter.
Secondly, when I use the term PIM, I mean it in the broadest possible way. I want to manage my personal info. Traditionally, on PDAs, that meant calendar, contacts and tasks. Smartphones have replaced PDAs, so now I want my current smartphone to do this at least as well.
Thirdly, the intent of the original post was to query why there are no 3rd-party PIM-type apps available for WP7. There are for iOS and Android, even BB. There were for WM6 and PalmOS. Why not WP7? A couple of replies confirmed what I suspected. The OS doesn't provide the access programmers need. Everything is very hands-off. Maybe this will change in future releases. there are indications that this may be so.
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No, I'm talking about duplicating existing appointments. Not recurring events, i.e., I had a meeting today at 2pm. We agree to meet again on Friday at 4pm. All other details the same. Previously I would quickly duplicate the event, update the date/time and I'm done. Now I must create from scratch. I right-click drag in Outlook, Google Calendar has Duplicate in More Actions - so it's not just me.
My choice to decide, but at least give me the choice. In month view I want to see better indicators. Maybe the smallish Lumia 800 display is at fault, or my chosen theme, but I really have difficulty noticing the existing (pretend) indications and they give no indication of what's there (task, appointment, all-day event). There is plenty of room to show boxes and bars for an 'at a glance' overview of my time. Especially in landscape view. BTW, what happened Categories?
Thanks. That, and some others, look interesting. But comes back to the issue raised by others. The only way to get at the tasks data is to go direct to the server. Shouldn't have to do that. It does work though, but should be in sync with inbuilt, not duplicating functionality.
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1st, not being defensive, just pointing out the way others like myself do it. What i say may or may not work for your situation but it's good to see another way to do it.
For contacts, calendar and tasks - without exchange - they are synced to the cloud hotmail. You don't need to back them up in that case. Last time i hard reset my phone, i didn't even restore via Zune. I put in my hotmail account. That brought in my local contacts and birthdays + vet appointments for my dog. i then synced facebook. That brought in all my friends. then exchange which brought my work contacts, email calendar, tasks ect. You have to get a windows live when you 1st bring up the phone. It is an automatic backup. Now what i did lose was my app list and saved games + contact history.
For apps go to https://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/my under get my apps and you will find a list of everything you purchased or got for free. you can send each app to your phone from there. So only thing is lost is contact history and saved games. Zune sync brings back pictures and music. I wanted to change what i had on my phone and didn't care to keep the exisint pics since they were on my pc anyway so i opted not to do this.
But if you want full local backup i highlighted a homebrew way to do it that doesn't require you to be unlocked.
Tasks - for your example, if you created the event, i normally would just edit it and change the date. Granted it's not copy but does the same functionality, unless you need a record of the event that passed.
I have a Titan so my display it pretty big. I probably could show a week view but on some weeks there are so many appointments that it would have to be bars. They should allow month view to zoom into calendar even if pinch to zoom to satisfy everyone.
Categories i didn't miss because i didn't use them but someone else asked me about them before purchasing a phone. That is when i noticed they were not there. Instead of categoris, i add to the subject.
example = Meeting with consumer - Billable
Instead of a billiable category which i can't do much with i add the text because outlook will allow me to search for it. at the end of the week when i bill out, i just enter in outlook's search (i do billing from pc) billable and it will show all my Billiable appointments in a list with time and date. it works way better that way for me. I haven't quite figured out what people use categories for yet though but i do know that they are not on the phone. Probably because each calendar has it's own color.
Thanks again. But, really, I have no issues with backing up, syncing, etc
Yes, I do keep old events. Which is why I can't believe you can only go back two weeks. Thank goodness for web access.
Second half of post is interesting. I may just have to change my habits. Certainly the idea of using different calendars for colour coding sounds good.
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Yes, I do keep old events. Which is why I can't believe you can only go back two weeks. Thank goodness for web access.
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Hmm i never notice that. In the hotmail calendar it goes back further. I always thought it followed the email since i have it for a month but i never look back that far.
I didn't know if you knew this but if you change IE to Desktop version in settings you can do full outlook web access with all calendars including shared. (i know this works on 2010 exchange at least). One thing the iphone can't do as you are locked to mobile version and Outlook has no link to change out of it.
I am forced to keep off contacta synchronization for my professional networks LinkedIn, Google and Twitter. If I turn it on my Note 2 runs out of memory available for contacts after synchronizing about 17k of the contacts. LinkedIn 24k contacts, Google 20k contacts and Twitter 50k followers.
Please help to overcome this incredibly painful experience so I can synchronize all of the above.
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Get rid of the ones you don't use. Which I'd guess is 98% of them.
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Get rid of the ones you don't use. Which I'd guess is 98% of them.
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Your guess is wrong, I use all of them. As an international contractor I advise to all of them my availability and new contract offers start to pour in. You never know where the next opportunity lies. I f you can help its appreciated, if not useless comments are just that useless.
Well why would you need 50K twitter followers in your phone when there on twitter following you...
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Yes you are right, Twitter doesn't really matter. I do though need the LinkedIn and the Facebook ones. If I can find a solution for those to synchronize, it will also work for 50k from Twitter regardless if I need it or not.
The point is that I need to be able to bring in a lot more contacts and asociated data than the Note can handle as per stock setup.
The question is HOW? Please let me know if you are aware how it can be done!
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Hard to believe that Im the only note user that needs to solve this high number of contacts storage issue.
Someone must have already tried to find a soltion for this.
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It's hard to believe that you're the only Note 2 user here who has hundreds of thousands of contacts? Lol
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It's hard to believe that you're the only Note 2 user here who has hundreds of thousands of contacts? Lol
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I was going to say the same thing lol.
Wouldn't it be easier to just manage those contacts in their respective apps?
I don't see the benefit of having > 100, 000 contacts in your phonebook :s
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LinkedIn is my primary interest. The web interface as well as various LI apps is hopeless for managing 20k contacts since there isnt almost any batch processing functionality. I used to export my LI contacts and import them into Outlook but due to LI lacking the needed processing power that stopped working sometime after I reached 10k connections.
Android sync works well enough except for the memory limitation. At the moment its the only place I know where I can have my contacts in a fully managable database.
I am open to other suggestions but this being a Note forum i hoped to find a Note solution here.
I am a contractor. If I can make this sync/memory work I again have the capability to let all my connections know when I complete my last contract and am available for the next one.
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I am still hopeing somebody knows how to resolve this problem. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
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Hello sir
well, I can assure you that even if you manage to sync all those contacts to your Note phone book, the phone wont be able to handle this huge number ! this why the limitation is there from the first place, and this is what apple is doing to keep their Iphones runs smoother than androids, they put limitations on everything, from pictures format and size to video type and resolution, etc...
the final word is "it will just ruin the user experience" something Samsung don't want it for their beloved customers
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LinkedIn is my primary interest.
I am a contractor. If I can make this sync/memory work I again have the capability to let all my connections know when I complete my last contract and am available for the next one.
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I know this isn't going to help you with regards the storage limitation......but if LinkedIn is your primary interest then surely the obvious way to let all your connections know when your last contract is complete and therefore available for the next one is to manually update LinkedIn when that time comes. It keeps your phone free of 'clutter' yet surely you're achieving the same result without the limitation and associated problems. When you update your LinkedIn status don't all your contacts receive a notification?
I might be wrong but it doesn't sound like you need the 1000's of LinkedIn contacts on your phone but all of them need 'you'.......to me it sounds like the equivalent of storing a worldwide phonebook on your mobile, just so they can give you a call (so that's a process which isn't actually required) If your details are held in a central resource then you don't need to store everyone else's?
Feel free to shoot me down or completely ignore.
So, assuming you can get all 24-100k contacts into your Note2 Contacts app, what's the intended use-case? What action within the contacts app do you expect to perform to "let everyone know you're available for work"? I'm looking at my couple of hundred contacts (which, in itself, can be a royal pain to manage) and I'm not sure I'd want to even try to do what I do with the Note2 over ten times as many, let alone 1-500 times.
You are all right from contacts app perspective. There is no easy way to manage from there. The reason for wanting to sync to my Note is the fact that android/contacts app brings all my social/professional networks contact details into a single database. It automatically combines a significant % of the duplicate contacts into one contact. To me this is the only known way of achieving a single database with details from various sources.
Unavoidably when I try to work on the Note with a database of this size the delay in displaying the results is a bit annoying but I can live with that just to get the result.
The positive is that from there the contacts are available to other applications which can be used for mailings or messaging. At this moment the various android apps batch processing capability is still limiting but it does have the export functionality enabling me to export this database to other apps on my PC.
Just as most of your comments, I would prefer to do all this on my PC but I have yet to find a desktop application that can build a unique and transportable database from all these networks.
But judging from the comments seems either the memory issue is not solvable or I should have explained the reasons in more detail earlier for people to be willing to help or maybe I am just uninformed about some PC app that can do this as well.
I already use the update feature on LinkedIn and other similar functionalities on my other networks but it is not even remotely as effective as sending a direct message to my connections. People don't stay glued to the screen to see a random update that disappears of their update queue within a few minutes of getting posted.
I dont want to shoot anybody down but feel free to shoot me down if you know an easier way of achieving the desired result.
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Gmail
Have you tried importing all of your contacts into your gmail and letting that sync to the phone?
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You are all right from contacts app perspective. There is no easy way to manage from there. The reason for wanting to sync to my Note is the fact that android/contacts app brings all my social/professional networks contact details into a single database. It automatically combines a significant % of the duplicate contacts into one contact. To me this is the only known way of achieving a single database with details from various sources.
Unavoidably when I try to work on the Note with a database of this size the delay in displaying the results is a bit annoying but I can live with that just to get the result.
The positive is that from there the contacts are available to other applications which can be used for mailings or messaging. At this moment the various android apps batch processing capability is still limiting but it does have the export functionality enabling me to export this database to other apps on my PC.
Just as most of your comments, I would prefer to do all this on my PC but I have yet to find a desktop application that can build a unique and transportable database from all these networks.
But judging from the comments seems either the memory issue is not solvable or I should have explained the reasons in more detail earlier for people to be willing to help or maybe I am just uninformed about some PC app that can do this as well.
I already use the update feature on LinkedIn and other similar functionalities on my other networks but it is not even remotely as effective as sending a direct message to my connections. People don't stay glued to the screen to see a random update that disappears of their update queue within a few minutes of getting posted.
I dont want to shoot anybody down but feel free to shoot me down if you know an easier way of achieving the desired result.
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There isnt a working facility that is able to export LI connections if you have more than 10-11k connections so i dont have a file I could import into a Gmail account.
It still remains a question of sufficient memory to sync into android.
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you should talk to one of the developers to see if there is some way to have contacts stored on the microsd card as opposed to the phone...if your contacts fill up a 64gig card then you really need to consider hiring a secretary...lol
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you should talk to one of the developers to see if there is some way to have contacts stored on the microsd card as opposed to the phone...if your contacts fill up a 64gig card then you really need to consider hiring a secretary...lol
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lol already have a "secretary" 2-3 times per week, among other stuff doing some of the LI tasks.
I hoped somebody who already did some development on this or has an idea how to achieve it would read this thread and coment but point taken, might post the question in the development forum.
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When this dude says he is a 'contractor' I hope he aint one of the contractors that eliminates people, lol.
Heres me thinking 2 or 300 connections on LinkedIn was a lot.... I had best get adding some more!
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When this dude says he is a 'contractor' I hope he aint one of the contractors that eliminates people, lol.
Heres me thinking 2 or 300 connections on LinkedIn was a lot.... I had best get adding some more!
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HITMAN ABSOLUTION is coming out next week...!!! maybe this guy is agent 47...lol
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lol already have a "secretary" 2-3 times per week, among other stuff doing some of the LI tasks.
I hoped somebody who already did some development on this or has an idea how to achieve it would read this thread and coment but point taken, might post the question in the development forum.
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a couple things for ya...the note II come with a 16 gig internal micro sd card however it can support a 64 gig one (like the korean variant note II has). Buy a 64gig microsd card, take it to a place that repairs broken smart phones and have them swap the cards for ya...
I saw a vid on YouTube of a guy disassembling the note II and the card isnt hard to get to at all... hope that helps...
lastly, I saw this app in the playstore... http://goo.gl/5xbsC it may do what you're requesting...