[Q] DLNA - Defy General

Hi,
One of the features i was looking forward to on the Defy was the built in DLNA functionality.
I am using a PC running XBMC that has my audio collection ripped mainly in FLAC with a little MP3 & OGG. Ideally i would like a way to transcode the FLAC to OGG when tranfering to the phone over DLNA but i will need to work on a solution for that (maybe Coherence? Hadn't heard of it but a little googling has sent me in that direction but will take a bit more homework). In the mean time i am happy to have FLAC on my phone despite the file size as i am expecting a 16GB card but given the weather i think it may take at least a few more days to arrive.
The problem is that when i transfer a FLAC file over DLNA it states that the file is not compatible* and asks me to confirm that i am happy transfer it it, i say yes it downloads the file. That's fine but it asks again with every single file so if you choose to download an album it asks every track so you can't even leave to run whilst you go do something else as it stops transferring at each prompt.
Any idea how to overcome this?
*i have PowerAmp installed which is compatible with FLAC.

i have solved my problem a different way. I just don't use DLNA.
Using Banshee music player i can connect the Defy via USB cable and transfer any audio file to it and Banshee trancodes on-the-fly into .ogg.
Solved.

ZootHornRollo said:
i have solved my problem a different way. I just don't use DLNA.
Using Banshee music player i can connect the Defy via USB cable and transfer any audio file to it and Banshee trancodes on-the-fly into .ogg.
Solved.
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Yeah... I agree. But I am connecting to a couple of computers and a Buffalo Link Station over wireless. I can USB through my computer, but would love to find a way around confirming every download I want. I'll ask this question on the T-Mo and Motorola forums which are monitored by Motorola dudes. Really, the DLNA function is so damned convenient.

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Home music library on EVO to go?

Is there anyway to have access to the music on your computer hdd with your EVO using 3G or WIFI? 8-32 GB is not enough to store a real music library IMO, and it's an inconvenience to have to constantly swap music in and out. It would be cool if a program would allow you to navigate through your computer's music in a similar way to if it were directly on the MicroSD and if playback to the EVO could be achieved with little or no quality loss.
Does anyone know if this is something that can be currently done or is this even possible at all?
if you have good upload bandwidth at home, you could use orb (not free).
if you happen to have a netgear readynas, there is a new addon that can transcode (audio/video) on the fly and stream directly from your nas.
Personally I just use last.fm to stream (or pandora depending on my mood).
try googling online media library or something. I am sure there is an app that is built for something to that effect. Or depending on how frisky you are, you could build a simple file sharing website w/ password protection.
google bought simplify media awhile back, hopefully they will re-release under 'google media' or something similar for android media streaming.
I have been using g-mote on my EVO and it works pretty well. You have to know your outside IP address and need to forward the ports for g-mote server to your internal IP. It is in beta and it crashes every once in a while but seems to work well for me.
Edit: If you search for gmote on the market, it is called Gmote 2.0 made my Marc Stogaitis & Mimi Sun. It is also a cool way to use your phone to control music and movies on your computer and use your phone as a touchpad for your computer.
I use Orb Live, works great for Audio. I read bad reviews about video streaming but, I don't do that so I don't know.
There's a mac and windows server.
Wow...Orb Live is much better that gmote, just installed. $9.99 on the Market and worth every penny. Is taking a long time to index my 85,000+ songs though.

[Q] Sorry this video cannot be played

I'm not sure how much people have tried this out yet, but has anyone managed to successfully play videos via dlna (connected media tab in galleries)
eg. i can play an avi file perfectly locally on the device.
but everytime i try to stream it via windows media server/orb media server, i get the message 'Sorry this video cannot be played'
anyone else?
maybe something htc needs to fix?
Tried resetting your router? Maybe thats it.
I tried this and had mixed results: Tversity on win 7 would serve up the videos but none would play. Normal shared folder would let me play .mp4 but not .avi
Ooer!
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lawrence750 said:
I'm not sure how much people have tried this out yet, but has anyone managed to successfully play videos via dlna (connected media tab in galleries)
eg. i can play an avi file perfectly locally on the device.
but everytime i try to stream it via windows media server/orb media server, i get the message 'Sorry this video cannot be played'
anyone else?
maybe something htc needs to fix?
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I am trying to figure out how to enable a 2nd player in the unit, on first run it pops up and asks me which player to use, but only the supplied mplayer is available, if i could get it to see say rockplayer, then these issues would go away
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I am trying to figure out how to enable a 2nd player in the unit, on first run it pops up and asks me which player to use, but only the supplied mplayer is available, if i could get it to see say rockplayer, then these issues would go away
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I agree, I'm feeling this is another bug, mainly because the local video playback using htc video player (or whatever its called) is intermittently useless. sometimes it works, sometimes it plays the first five seconds and stops, sometimes not at all. All on the same video at different times.
vplayer works fine though..
also it seems unlikely that resetting the router will help, as airvideo via my iphone works fine, but i will try later on when at home again.
Haven't tried this yet, but have you checked that you have all the right codecs installed on your pc? I know windows media player has a hard time with certain codec's and file types where as vlc player doesn't, yet i don't know how this would sit when streaming video.
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Haven't tried this yet, but have you checked that you have all the right codecs installed on your pc? I know windows media player has a hard time with certain codec's and file types where as vlc player doesn't, yet i don't know how this would sit when streaming video.
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I think this is an issue with playback of videos on the phone, not on the computer...
If the file plays back fine on the computer, then it's not gonna be a codec problem (from the computer's side anyway).
Having this problem too. Is someone going to contact HTC?
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I have very similar results. Using Windows 7's Media Player Streamer I can browse all my videos , music and photos , but none of these can be played (the server works ok,'coz I still can play videos and other media from other PC). I've some better results with XBMC's media stream (UPNP server) the photos works fine, but still can't play other media.
I can't manage to open the DHD's video, audio or images using DLNA connection.
At the beginning I think that the problem is with codecs, but since this media is opened with no problem once it copied on the phone I'm sure there is a problem with the player playing content over UPNP connection.
I had that kind of issues with an old ubuntu install, but all was fixed when installed VLC Player, so I hope someone can make a good port of VLC to android.
I've managed to playback mp3s and looked at pictures stored on my computer via my phone, so that part is OK, but videos are a no-go, which is a shame.
Very simple answer to this people.
The Desire HD and Z does not support "Play To" Receiver
Because of this AVI wont work.
Just check DLNA's website.
Compare it to bluetooth,
Both are very sensitive to compatibility and such
Never mind...
l1nuxfre4k said:
Very simple answer to this people.
The Desire HD and Z does not support "Play To" Receiver
Because of this AVI wont work.
Just check DLNA's website.
Compare it to bluetooth,
Both are very sensitive to compatibility and such
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Well that's just stopped me buying the HTC Media Link, like htcsense.com they big this up in their adverts and then can't deliver.
Avi seems not to work, but I've managed to stream to my phone .mp4 files.
l1nuxfre4k said:
Very simple answer to this people.
The Desire HD and Z does not support "Play To" Receiver
Because of this AVI wont work.
Just check DLNA's website.
Compare it to bluetooth,
Both are very sensitive to compatibility and such
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some avi files have actually started playing. most stop within a few seconds though.. if it can do this, why not the whole video?
Also i did check DLNAs website, and they've actually certified the Desire HD as a M-DMP device. I know they've only tested it with images (according to the certificate) however the description of a M-DMP device is:
These wireless devices find and play content on a digital media server (DMS) or mobile digital media server (M-DMS).
Examples: mobile phones and mobile media tablets designed for viewing multimedia content.
So it must be a HTC bug? (based on the fact that it DOES play the start of some files and that it is M-DMP certified..)
EDIT: well it must be a codec thing.. rockplayer plays all these files fine.. even locally the 'Videos/gallery' app can't play them all. Maybe HTC should use ffmpeg like rockplayer.. then it might just work
I spend many hours trying to figure this out , all but streaming video don't work ..any suggestions ?
Me too, but if only
mexlamri said:
I spend many hours trying to figure this out , all but streaming video don't work ..any suggestions ?
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Me too, but if only there was a way of making vplayer (since that plays everything so far) the default player when a video is clicked on from the connected media view
Same problem here.
1. Connected Home on Samsung Omnia 2(Win6.1/6.5) works
2. Doest work on Samsumg Galaxy Tab (froyo 2.2)
3. Doesnt work on Desire HD (pic, music, video)
So can I assume its something to do with Android?
same problems here with the HTC Media Link. far too many video files play ok on my htc desire from win7 pc using Skifta.
i've been attempting to find successful filetype/bitrate settings through freemake video converter (which allows hard-coding of subtitles) with little success when pushing to the media link.
Q. does anyone know a guaranteed filetype, bitrate, size which works through media link?
Q. are there any XDA devs working on a rom to fix this thing? excellent hardware in need of a little homebrew tweak if ever there was
It works fine on my DHD with Sabsa Prime V16 no issues at all. (Audio /Video/ Photos)

[GUIDE] How to use DLNA

OK Peeps,
Someone in Coolexe’s rom thread asked me what DLNA was and how to use it. As I couldn’t point them straight to a guide I thought I’d better write one. Plus I’m sure some of you don’t even know what it is!
From Wikipedia:
DLNA (Digital Living Network Alliance) is a standard used by manufacturers of consumer electronics to allow entertainment devices within the home to share their content with each other across a home network.
So what can I use my Desire for in the world of DLNA?
1. Stream movies you have stored on your phone wirelessly to a DLNA compatible TV/device
2. Stream music you have stored on your phone wirelessly to a DLNA compatible TV/device
3. Show pictures you’ve taken on your phone wirelessly to a DLNA compatible TV/device
4. Stream movies/music/pictures wirelessly from a DLNA compatible device to you phone
Before I go into details about using DLNA I’ll give you a quick overview of what kit I’ve got that makes it all possible. Firstly, I’ve got a Synology NAS which is DLNA compatible (other brands exist!) and stores all my media files. Secondly I’ve got a Windows Media Centre 7 PC hooked up to my main TV. And thirdly a HTC Desire, this must be running a Gingerbread rom with Sense. I mostly use Robo’s roms which have been working a treat but have been trying out some others recently but with mixed results, hopefully we can get these issues ironed out though.
So to be able to send media to my TV the first thing I need to do is turn on media streaming in Media Player. Hit the Stream button and choose Turn On Media Streaming. The default settings are fine so you can keep them. Next hit the Stream button again and choose Allow Remote Control Of My Player. Now you need to grab you Desire, make sure it’s connected to you WLAN and from the Apps menu click on Connected Media and choose the type of media you want to send. You should then be prompted to select the player, choose the player you’ve just setup in Windows. If you’re not prompted there’s a little button in the bottom right, just above the full volume icon, click it. Bingo, your chosen media will then be streamed to the computer and in my case the TV that’s connected to it.
Next up the more exciting bit, and the bit I use the most, streaming from my NAS to my Desire. Different NAS boxes will have different ways to enable DLNA but on my Synology it was just a matter of clicking on the box that turns that feature on and storing media in the shares it created. On your phone in the Apps menu choose the Video app. Click the button in the bottom left, the one with 3 parallel lines, you should end up at the Albums menu. Scroll along the strip at the bottom to Connected Media where it should search you network a DLAN devices. Select the device you want to stream from and you’ll be present with the DLNA folders on you NAS. Drill in through the folders to the movie or music you want played on your Desire, kick back and enjoy!
Over the weekend I’ll try and get some screen shots added, pictures say a millions words, and see if I can reword the guide to make it simpler to follow. Just wanted to get something up quick to help a fellow member out.
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nicely explaned, thanks for the tuto,
i've just checked my tv, i think i might need an RS lead or something to connect it to my laptop, problem is tv is too far from where the lapy is, but i got another solution , my satellite box (spiderbox) can be setup as a home stream server,did it from this guide http://cccam-exchange.com/viewtopic.php?f=211&t=509 it has got that feature cos i've set it up and connected already to an external server to watch the europeen leagues footie it's plugged to BT Hub, i think all i need is a wifi bridge to the sat box to save me putting the laptop by the tv, as i'm using it,don't want a long lead,gets in the way , i'll do bit of reading on that, to set it up and see when get time.
however i did plug the phone to sat box via usb (mounted), (satbox is PVR ready) , accesed the whole sd card content.using the satbox remote ,never knew that before till when this DLNA subject popped up, opened up a new feature for me.
cheers.
What ROM are you using to do this? as the video's app is not on my MIUI version?
voodooboy3000 said:
What ROM are you using to do this? as the video's app is not on my MIUI version?
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Robos latest test rom. Its got to be running gingerbread and sense.
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Video resolution is low. And i guess VLC stream & convert is more suited to me. So i'll mainly use this for audio. Thanks for the solution. Easiest method that I found to stream music from my computer to my phone.

GoFlex Satellite Wireless Hard Drive

This is something I need to look into.
A 500gb, battery powered, portable hdd with built in wifi. Plus it can also stream media.
Naturally I could choose to use my pc at home as a remote server, but it would have to remain powered on, takes time to setup ports, access rights & streaming can really lag.
Drawback for now at least, you can't reverse transfer files back to the hard drive via its built in wifi. Not a deal breaker if you ask me.
The GoFlex Satellite Wi-Fi connection can be protected with a password & WPA-level security.
It is capable of streaming in HD, up to 10Megabits per second data rate, but some devices may not support High Definition formatted videos.
And in case you're wondering:
Can I play files from my GoFlex Satellite to my Android phone or tablet?
Yes, files can be played back via the Wi-Fi capability. Videos in the formats that are compatible with the Android device can be played back using the default browser (Webkit). Unsupported video formats can be played back using third-party media players. If all your videos just download rather than play, try installing a more robust media player app. The Seagate app can be found on the Android Market.
A 500gb drive can be had on Amazon for about $173.
Any opinions or experiences with this device?
http://www.viddler.com/explore/GetConnectedTV/videos/297/
I have two that I mainly use with my iPad. The Seagate software isn't the best but they are working on it. I am a beta tester and they're starting to focus more on Android so that's good but if you're looking to stream video, there are a few DLNA players out there that are better at it. You can also hack the drives with custom firmware too.
Agreed about Seagate, and good to know that they are working on it.
If this is something you're interested in and you're ready to buy today there's a promo code available at Newegg that reduces this to $129.99 (code expires 1/8/12).
Newegg price: $173.99
promo code: -$44.00
Net price: $129.99
Promo code is STX44US and the direct link to Newegg is here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148755
$129.99 is a good deal, I got mine at Best Buy for $180. They stream to anything that can access wifi. I used one of them to stream to my friends TV to watch a marathon of the old Twilight Zone episodes on New Years day. The drive lasted just under 6 hours before needing to be charged.
Magicspell said:
If this is something you're interested in and you're ready to buy today there's a promo code available at Newegg that reduces this to $129.99 (code expires 1/8/12).
Newegg price: $173.99
promo code: -$44.00
Net price: $129.99
Promo code is STX44US and the direct link to Newegg is here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148755
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Thank-you much. Just ordered one. I've been browsing several forums & by far the biggest complaint is the front end user UI. As long as I can get it to play vids out the box with no problems then I'll be okay.
A site you might want to check out when you get your drive:
http://www.hackseagatesatellite.com
It's not for everyone but it can be useful and the people there are pretty responsive.
I have tried the seagatein the past not the battery powered one but the regular NAS device. I found it to be very slow to upload or download form. I switched over to the WD mybook live. And I am not trying to flame or start some crap just giving my experience it did work but was slow. I also ran into issues with my Blueray not being able to read some content. This may have been the blue rays problem but I havn't seen as many issues with the WD. However all that having been said WD not have a bettery or wfi enabled device I am aware of it has an ethernet port that you connect straight to your router.
arsmithsr said:
I have tried the seagatein the past not the battery powered one but the regular NAS device. I found it to be very slow to upload or download form. I switched over to the WD mybook live. And I am not trying to flame or start some crap just giving my experience it did work but was slow. I also ran into issues with my Blueray not being able to read some content. This may have been the blue rays problem but I havn't seen as many issues with the WD. However all that having been said WD not have a bettery or wfi enabled device I am aware of it has an ethernet port that you connect straight to your router.
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Appreciate the input. The only other portable wifi drive out there that I know of is the Kingston Wi-Drive. From the plus side this device has an SSD & the UI is much better. The downside is that it only comes in 16gb & 32gb capacities.
I'll keep y'all (I'm from Texas ) posted on how it turns out.
Crap! Any chance of a new coupon? I would have bought it for that price !
OK, I just paid the premium and bought one at Best Buy when I was in the city today. I also paid for the hack posted above. It's charging tonight and I'm going to start messing with it tomorrow. I'll post updates as I go along.
Perfect: The Wi-Fi HDD + Seagate Media app. + MX Player works as expected on my E4GT.
However on my Win 7 tablet (ExoPc) I can only play videos within a browser (Opera) as no such Seagate Media UI app exists for Windows. The problem with watching a video within a web browser is lack of media controls (vol +/-, play, pause, stop etc. etc.)
If anyone with this device knows how to get it to open up within a 3rd party media player on Win 7 after selecting the video within the web UI can you please share how it's done.
subcypher said:
OK, I just paid the premium and bought one at Best Buy when I was in the city today. I also paid for the hack posted above. It's charging tonight and I'm going to start messing with it tomorrow. I'll post updates as I go along.
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I thought about purchasing the hack myself, but wanted to test the device out first to see if I actually want to hold onto it or return it.
I can say that while watching a movie, its dropped its connection 3x & restarted the video accordingly from the beginning.
I had to fst fwd>> to the previous spot I left off at. No big deal as of yet, but if it keeps doing it then returning it will be more likely.
I'll stay updated with your replies & see if the hack omits some of the inherent problems I'm having. If so then I'll invest in the hack.
EL TEJANO said:
Perfect: The Wi-Fi HDD + Seagate Media app. + MX Player works as expected on my E4GT.
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I've had the same experience though I wish the Seagate app would allow you to choose which media player to use to play the media. I've actually found I prefer the media player used when using the phone's browser over the player invoked with the Seagate app...
EL TEJANO said:
However on my Win 7 tablet (ExoPc) I can only play videos within a browser (Opera) as no such Seagate Media UI app exists for Windows. The problem with watching a video within a web browser is lack of media controls (vol +/-, play, pause, stop etc. etc.)
If anyone with this device knows how to get it to open up within a 3rd party media player on Win 7 after selecting the video within the web UI can you please share how it's done.
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I haven't tried with my tablet yet, but I did try with my Win 7 laptop. The experience was a bit more frustrating to start. When I accessed the Seagate Go Flex (via IE or Firefox) it appeared to only directly play certain media files (for example it played .mp4 files but wouldn't directly play .m2ts files). I tried associating .m2ts files with WMP as well as VLC but in either case when I selected that file rather than it starting to play it would start to download the file to my laptop.
I then simply renamed the .m2ts extension to .mp4 (didn't recode the contents) and then when I selected the file it played directly in WMP. If I tried to change the player associated with .mp4 files (to VLC, for example) then the file would not directly play but again began to download. Changing the .mp4 association back to WMP did allow the media to play directly when selected through the browser interface.
Overall, I think I can live with these limitations though maybe the hack noted earlier will allow me more flexibility. I'll have to research that part.
Well at first the MX Player was working fine on my phone, then I noticed that the streaming videos would stop & then start from the beginning in a continous loop. WTH!!!
I figured okay let me reinstall the latest firmware, defrag & do a system file check to see if that works. When I tried to play my streaming content once more within MX Player the same thing happened. I figured okay it must be the app then.
So I downloaded Buzz Player & to my surprise this app has the option to connect to Network Media; when selecting that option my stored audio & video files show up within the player. Which is nice because now I don't have to use the Seagate Media app. What's even better is no freezing or restarting.
All in all the Seagate Satellite is a nice device but Seagate really (& I mean really) needs to work on their UI as well as open up some features & options.
In regards to my Win 7 tablet: Are there any windows based media players that can detect the wifi signal off my Seagate Satellite & display the directory much like Buzz Player does in Android?
I purchased this drive and the hack. I actually did the work the other day to hack it. It's fairly simple.
First, they have you download an ISO. I'm not sure why they do that, as they use it as a ZIP or RAR file. It's an archive you open and load the two files inside onto the drive. I was able to do this in Linux very easily.
Second, you use your wireless connection to talk to the drive and then use Telnet to see the files in a command line. Then you use the command line to run a file. I did all this from my phone using Better Terminal Emulator Pro, but I'm guessing the regular Terminal Emulator will work.
After the script ran, the thing rebooted. I used their videos to clean up the drive (remove the Seagate stuff and clean up the directory structure), then set up the authentication, web service and Samba. Again, all this was done through the browser on my phone because I was watching the videos on my laptop.
I was able to connect to the drive from my phone and browse the file system. I was also able to stream a few songs (no movies on my drive yet) without issue. I also used ES Flie Explorer to browse the drive through Samba and that worked very well. I was also able to stream music through that file system using whatever program I wanted to use that was on my phone.
The only problem I have is that I can't see the file system and have a data connection to the world at the same time. Perhaps this drive might be better if the connection were Bluetooth, but I really don't see why I'd need both at the same time to be honest. It's more like a "could be better" kind of thing. That being said, with the hack you can have the drive connect to a wireless network and then connect to that wireless network yourself. Once that's done you can see both, I believe. I just have not tried it myself yet.
I would highly recommend this product. I'm kind of sad I didn't get it at the $130 price mentioned before, but even at the $240 I have in it, I'm very happy with my purchase.
So yeah after thinking about it & realizing how I'll be utilizing this device, I think I'll forego the hack. But only because I really don't see myself utilizing the features. As convenient as it is to watch movies on my phone, the experience of watching movies on such a small screen, is to say the least, not really much of an experience. Though occasionally when lying in bed I'll grab my phone to watch a flick as I have the Seagate drive on standby mode.
In regards to using this with my Win 7 ExoPc tablet: Windows Media Player was able to detect and display the files on this HDD via wifi, I just had to download the proper codecs to get it to recognize .flv, .avi & .mkv video extensions. The screen on this tablet is 11.6 inches so it makes the experience somewhat more enjoyable.
Having to switch wifi clients back & forth, though cumbersome, is not really much of a deal breaker either. Hopefully in the future Seagate will address such issues with whatever firmware update they push-out (if they push it out).

MX Player Codec?

I have a codec called ARM v7 Neon, but my tablet's processor is Exynos 5 Octa.
Since I am having stuttering issues with HD video streamed over AC WiFi, I figured maybe the codec was an issue.
If I aim my AC-enabled laptop at the same HD video file over the same WiFi connection it plays on Windows Media Player without a hitch.
MX player is good for about 25 seconds of "good" playback before the audio clipping (?) sets in. It's not horrendous - the speakers are legible and the image looks perfect. Pausing playback for five seconds and then resuming gives another 25 seconds of good playback.
So.... have I got the right codec?
Some other issue?
PeteCress said:
I have a codec called ARM v7 Neon, but my tablet's processor is Exynos 5 Octa.
Since I am having stuttering issues with HD video streamed over AC WiFi, I figured maybe the codec was an issue.
If I aim my AC-enabled laptop at the same HD video file over the same WiFi connection it plays on Windows Media Player without a hitch.
MX player is good for about 25 seconds of "good" playback before the audio clipping (?) sets in. It's not horrendous - the speakers are legible and the image looks perfect. Pausing playback for five seconds and then resuming gives another 25 seconds of good playback.
So.... have I got the right codec?
Some other issue?
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Can you tell me what the total bit rate is and is in an .mp4, .mkv, .avi or .mov?
It's rather your WiFi than a codec issue
Cirno5 said:
It's rather your WiFi than a codec issue
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But wouldn't that beg the question of why the AC-capable laptop connected to the same router in the same location can play the same .MPEG with no problem?
Rates According To Windows
kkretch said:
Can you tell me what the total bit rate is and is in an .mp4, .mkv, .avi or .mov?
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It is a .MPG file recorded straight from the over-the-air stream.
Windows.Properties.Video says Total Bitrate = 16,408kbps, Data rate = 16,216kbps
Windows.Properties.Audio says Bit rate = 192kbps, Audio sample rate = 48 kHz
I've got a trimmed version (2 minutes/200 megs) that I could post somewhere, but to reproduce the problem it would have to be viewed over 802.11AC.
Video looks a-ok, it's the audio that is problematic. Over N, audio is almost unintelligible right from the start. But over AC it's perfect for about the first ten seconds and then playback has to be paused for five seconds to get perfect playback for another 20-30 seconds. But even when it's "bad" under AC, it's not nearly as bad as under N.
But I have to keep coming back to the fact that an AC-capable laptop has no problems at all.
Exynos is an Arm proc.... The problem is not the codec.
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It is a .MPG file recorded straight from the over-the-air stream.
Windows.Properties.Video says Total Bitrate = 16,408kbps, Data rate = 16,216kbps
Windows.Properties.Audio says Bit rate = 192kbps, Audio sample rate = 48 kHz
I've got a trimmed version (2 minutes/200 megs) that I could post somewhere, but to reproduce the problem it would have to be viewed over 802.11AC.
Video looks a-ok, it's the audio that is problematic. Over N, audio is almost unintelligible right from the start. But over AC it's perfect for about the first ten seconds and then playback has to be paused for five seconds to get perfect playback for another 20-30 seconds. But even when it's "bad" under AC, it's not nearly as bad as under N.
But I have to keep coming back to the fact that an AC-capable laptop has no problems at all.
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Video stream playback issues are hard to track down so it may take a lot of trial and error. So get ready for a lot of questions.
I think this could be an audio codec issue not video.........
If you give me a link to that trimmed file I can test it as I have an AC1300 router.
Are you making these video files or are you downloading them? If your making them can I ask why are you using .mpg over say .mkv or .mp4 as I believe those have better audio codec choices.
When you go into your tablets wifi settings what is the link speed in Mbps?
Are you the same distance from the router when you use the laptop and the tablet? Are you streaming this from your computer or from a drive on the router?
Have you installed an app like Wifi Analyzer to see what your signal stream looks like.
Have you tried a few of the other video players in the play store like the ones below to see if they may work better.
Mobo Video Player Pro
HD Video Player
iMPlayer+
VPlayer Video Player
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kkretch said:
I think this could be an audio codec issue not video.........
If you give me a link to that trimmed file I can test it as I have an AC1300 router.
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The forum will not let me post a link until I've put up "approximately 10 posts".
Flip me an email address or just wait until the forum is happy.
Are you making these video files or are you downloading them?
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They are coming right off the air via a SilconDust tuner.
When you go into your tablets wifi settings what is the link speed in Mbps?
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It's all over the place. Seems like it returns some recent figure rather than the max speed.
I've seen well over 400kbps and the Ubiquiti "UniFi Controller" app used for setup and oversight of the WAP is reporting "40.0M" right now as the tablet is playing the video.
Are you the same distance from the router when you use the laptop and the tablet?
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Yes, approximately 3 feet - on the corner of a kitchen table next to the TV stand where the WAP lives.
Are you streaming this from your computer or from a drive on the router?
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From a hard drive on my 24-7 computer - running Windows 7.
Have you installed an app like xxxx
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Here is what WiFi Analyzer shows - with the tablet in the same position as when playing the vid:
CH36 5180 MHz -45dBm
Have you tried a few of the other video players in the play store like the ones below to see if they may work better.
xxxxx
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I've tried the native Samsung player, MoboPlayer, BS Player, and a couple others whose names escape me at the moment. On all, the playback was worse than MX Player's. I will try the other three on the list and report back.
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The forum will not let me post a link until I've put up "approximately 10 posts".
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Here is a workaround - URL munged to fool the forum:
doubleyoudoubleyoudoubleyou dot filedropper dot com slash charlierose-4476563-0truncatedto2minutes02
This is my first time using FileDropper, so let me know if there is any problem and I will put it someplace else.
PeteCress said:
Here is a workaround - URL munged to fool the forum:
doubleyoudoubleyoudoubleyou dot filedropper dot com slash charlierose-4476563-0truncatedto2minutes02
This is my first time using FileDropper, so let me know if there is any problem and I will put it someplace else.
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OK, got the file.
Voice to lips is off on desktop pc, converted to.MP4 voice is right on and file went from 200mb to 145mb with same compression. What model SilconDust tuner are you using as the picture is great. So is your stream from a recorded file on your hard drive or a direct live stream from your SilconDust tuner.
How are you getting the signal to your tablet, with an app?
Streams to my SM-P600 using MXplayer on a 5GHz N router voice is out of sync a little but no audio clipping for entire 2 minute clip.
Will update later about the 5GHz AC router as it is at my home.
Download the newest XBMC alpha and try that one.
http://mirrors.xbmc.org/snapshots/android/arm/
It has the full hardware decoding to Eyxynos processor.
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Voice to lips is off on desktop pc, converted to.MP4 voice is right on and file went from 200mb to 145mb with same compression. What model SilconDust tuner are you using as the picture is great. So is your stream from a recorded file on your hard drive or a direct live stream from your SilconDust tuner.
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All I can find on the devices is "Silicon Dust HD HomeRun Dual ATSC Tuner". No model numbers. I have two boxes. Each box has two tuners in it.
I use SageTV to schedule and record. As I understand it from the SageTV docs there is zero processing/transcoding going on. Sage just takes the signal from the HD HomeRun and writes it to disc. Voice/video synch for the local PBS station is not always that wonderful - even when viewed directly on my TV.
How are you getting the signal to your tablet, with an app?
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That one may have gone over my head.
I am using FX File Manager to link to the Windows-shared drive on the PC where the files live. When I "Open" a .mpg file, Android turns it over to MX Player unless I do an "Open With". So I *think* the answer is that the tablet app is reading the file directly.
Streams to my SM-P600 using MXplayer on a 5GHz N router voice is out of sync a little but no audio clipping for entire 2 minute clip.
Will update later about the 5GHz AC router as it is at my home.
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Unencumbered by any knowledge of this stuff, I'm starting to think I have a problem with my tablet. If it plays OK on your P600 over the AC router maybe you can share the exact filenames of both your video and audio drivers and, hopefully, there will be a difference against mine....
valexi said:
Download the newest XBMC alpha and try that one.
http://mirrors.xbmc.org/snapshots/android/arm/
It has the full hardware decoding to Eyxynos processor.
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I wound up with something called xmbc-13.0-Gotham_alpha11-armeabi-v7a.apk.
But MX Player Pro | Settings | Decoder | General | Custom Codec | (navigated to folder containing abovementioned .apk) threw "Cannot Load Custom Codec. Use Default Codec Instead."
I mean install the apk and try to play the video with XBMC.
Definitely best player out there.
Sent from my Lumia 800 using Tapatalk
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All I can find on the devices is "Silicon Dust HD HomeRun Dual ATSC Tuner". No model numbers. I have two boxes. Each box has two tuners in it.
I use SageTV to schedule and record. As I understand it from the SageTV docs there is zero processing/transcoding going on. Sage just takes the signal from the HD HomeRun and writes it to disc. Voice/video synch for the local PBS station is not always that wonderful - even when viewed directly on my TV.
That one may have gone over my head.
I am using FX File Manager to link to the Windows-shared drive on the PC where the files live. When I "Open" a .mpg file, Android turns it over to MX Player unless I do an "Open With". So I *think* the answer is that the tablet app is reading the file directly.
Unencumbered by any knowledge of this stuff, I'm starting to think I have a problem with my tablet. If it plays OK on your P600 over the AC router maybe you can share the exact filenames of both your video and audio drivers and, hopefully, there will be a difference against mine....
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OK, got the file.
Voice to lips is off on desktop pc, converted to.MP4 voice is right on and file went from 200mb to 145mb with same compression. What model SilconDust tuner are you using as the picture is great. So is your stream from a recorded file on your hard drive or a direct live stream from your SilconDust tuner.
How are you getting the signal to your tablet, with an app?
Streams to my SM-P600 using MXplayer on a 5GHz N router voice is out of sync a little but no audio clipping for entire 2 minute clip.
Will update later about the 5GHz AC router as it is at my home.
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Your file plays in a stream without any clipping over my AC router.
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But wouldn't that beg the question of why the AC-capable laptop connected to the same router in the same location can play the same .MPEG with no problem?
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Nope, especially not when we're talking about Samsung
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Your file plays in a stream without any clipping over my AC router.
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Can you say what "drivers" you are using for audio and video?
Quotes because I am not cure of the terminology.... "Codecs" ?
I'm thinking that if it plays ok on your P600 over AC, the problem must be in my P600 - especially since it plays ok on my Windows laptop over AC.
We are both using MX Player, right?
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Can you say what "drivers" you are using for audio and video?
Quotes because I am not cure of the terminology.... "Codecs" ?
I'm thinking that if it plays ok on your P600 over AC, the problem must be in my P600 - especially since it plays ok on my Windows laptop over AC.
We are both using MX Player, right?
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Please tell me were your files reside (computer, laptop, router??) and how your laptop gets and plays them VS. how does you tablet get access to those files.
My files are stored on a hard drive that is attached to a USB port on my AC router, my tablet uses MediaHouse UPnP / DLNA browse to gain access to those files and then MX Player opens the video file for viewing.
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Please tell me were your files reside (computer, laptop, router??) and how your laptop gets and plays them VS. how does you tablet get access to those files.
My files are stored on a hard drive that is attached to a USB port on my AC router, my tablet uses MediaHouse UPnP / DLNA browse to gain access to those files and then MX Player opens the video file for viewing.
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The problem file resides on a 2-TB hard drive that is connected to a Windows 7 PC.
I *think* the laptop and the tablet access the file in the same manner: via a Windows connection as in NET USE - but I don't know enough about Android (or, for that matter, Windows) to say the methods are exactly the same. All I can say for sure is that, in both cases, I specify a DeviceName\ShareName to make the connection. The tablet is using v2.3.0.10 of the "FX" file manager with the FX "Network" add-in. I get the directory list in FX, tap on the file name, and MX Player takes over.
On the laptop, I'm using Windows Media Player.
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The problem file resides on a 2-TB hard drive that is connected to a Windows 7 PC.
I *think* the laptop and the tablet access the file in the same manner: via a Windows connection as in NET USE - but I don't know enough about Android (or, for that matter, Windows) to say the methods are exactly the same. All I can say for sure is that, in both cases, I specify a DeviceName\ShareName to make the connection. The tablet is using v2.3.0.10 of the "FX" file manager with the FX "Network" add-in. I get the directory list in FX, tap on the file name, and MX Player takes over.
On the laptop, I'm using Windows Media Player.
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I tried your file again using FX file manager and I get the same results, smooth playback entire time.
The 2tb drive your using is it a portable drive? How many hard wired devices are sharing your network? How many wireless devices share your network?
I have a tivo, TV and a computer hard wired on my network and only my table uses my wireless connection. Have you tried using Media House that I mentioned in one of my other postings, you may get a different result and it shows album art and shows a photo from video as an icon.

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