wanting to have use desire as 16Gb USB drive but with NTFS? - Desire General

Dudes, bit of a dilemma, if I format my 16Gb micro sd to NTFS and put it in my desire, the desire doesnt like it and it formats it as FAT32 .. which is ok, but I would very much like to tranfer files as big as 4Gb to the "removable drive" when using the desire as a USB drive.
Only trouble is you cant do that when using a FAT32 drive.
Is there a way of formatting the SD to NTFS but stil the handset will work with it.. Ie if its NTFS the desire will want to reformat it but if its FAT 32 the USB storage options only good for the odd small file.
Anyway around this so that the 16Gb SD card can be used on the desire (ie for apps and the like) but can also be used in the usb storage option to transfer large files of upto say 4Gb ?
bit of a catch 22

Why can't you copy 4GB files to the SD card? My External USB hard drive on my laptop is FAT32 and I copied the contents of my old external HD to it without issue (about 200GB). File system isn't the problem here
And no, you can't use NTFS on the Desire. Which is why it reformats the SD card once you boot Android

No!
You can copy more than 4GB to a fat32 filesystem because FAT32 partition can be larger than that.
But if one file is larger than 4GB then you can't copy it on FAT32, this is a limitation of FAT32 filesystem:
FAT 32 max file size= 4GB

this reason :
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080529220411AADT6Ut
you can move 200Gb worth of stuff but not a single file over 4Gb on a FAT32 file system (apparently)

you see my dilemma ? hehe most annoying

Biggest single file ive ever seen was about 3 GB. Never knew about the 4 GB limitation to Fat32 before. What files larger than 4 GB are there? 1080p files maybe?

.ISO Image files in this case
(work related not smut or pirated material before any suspicions are raised hehe)

I think u like to share Games with your Phone.
Why u do not extract the image files and install from the folder later?
After extracting u can copy the folder to sdcard ;-)

because once i extract the .ISO
the "Beach Hussys" .AVI file is still too large
... but seriously, there has been a few files ive had that are larger, I liked you idea tho x thanks. But there has got to be a way

Wasn't aware of the 4GB limit in FAT32, never had a file large enough to transport around!!

you can use gsplit or h-split!!! to split files on pc!!..

cheers dude that is good to know
but I really want the USB storage facility on the Desire to match having a USB key .. ie tranfer a 4Gb file the same as I would to my USB key (which is optimised and formatted to NTFS) Then I only have to take one around with me.
I have done this and it works (providing you have it plugged into USB as soon as you switch on with NTFS formatted SD in the phone) but then the sd cannot be used in that state to save apps to etc - so its one or the other it seems
ive used the sd formatted to ntfs and put it in my desire and plugged it into a usb straight away and it works - but if u dont do it straight away the handset says "SD card not formatted do you want to format it now" in which case it will format it to FAT32 or not let you use it as USB storage device at all.
hmmph !

i guess it shouldnt be hard as long as you compile the kernl with ntfs support or modprobe.

you can also split your files easily with winrar

What about exFAT? Can Desire read that format?

u can also use programs like winrar to split em in parts as well.. if its a movie u want to playback though, ;p its pretty impossible unless u split it urself with a movie editor..which aint a hard task..

Just use winrar archive the file to multiple archives, copy them over and unpack it
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if you have a big sdcard and you transfer a lot of movies or files bigger than 4gb why don't you make 2 partitions on your sdcard....on FAT32 with the size you want on the desire and one NTFS for your data!!! i don't think it would cause any trouble. i might be mistaken though i never tried it. but for usbs works wonders

What about use partitions? Let's say 4GB FAT32 and 12GB NTFS... will it work?
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I think it should work, but the Desire wouldn't read the NTFS partition, you could only use it for USB file transfer.

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[Q] Migration to new SD on Virtuous Unity

I would like to move all my files on the current microSD to my new one. I am using Virtuous Unity Rom
What is all that ext4 thing? I read that Unity supports ext4 but:
Does that count for the SD, too? What are the benefits and how is it meant, entire sd ext4 or just something like 500mb to 1gig for apps?
If I stay with fat32 or part sd fat32, can I just copy all the files to the new one using my cardreader or do I have to do something special? Dunno, maybe Android security flags or other kind of metadata is not recognized by Windows.
If you have a computer just copy everything from card to computer and then to new sd...pretty simple. Ext4 is a partition of sd card for app2sd and what not. Need a minimum of class4 sd card for ext4 to work from what I've read
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Anyone here with something more specific?
Connect G2 with Computer as Disk Drive.
Copy all files from G2 to a Folder to the computer.
Remove old SD, insert New. Format it (if it needs to) through the phone.
Connect G2 with Computer as Disk Drive.
Copy all files from Folder on the computer to the G2.

[Q] Can't transfer over 4GB file?

Just got mine Sandisk SDXC 64GB card and it come with exFat. I can transfer large file over 4GB with SDCard adapter plugged in computer, but can't with phone connected to computer and why is it that way?
Anyone have same problem and transfer larger file then 4GB doesn't work while connect with the phone?
Have not got a note 2 yet, but I believe it has got to do with the file format of your SDCARD. FAT32 only accepts max 4GB per file.
Silvina said:
Have not got a note 2 yet, but I believe it has got to do with the file format of your SDCARD. FAT32 only accepts max 4GB per file.
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Wish its that simple.
Read again what i wrote: "I can transfer large file over 4GB with SDCard adapter plugged in computer, but can't with phone connected to computer "
If the card is in fat32 and it wont transfer files larger then 4GB with the SD Card adapter, right?
Im not alone with this problem, alot others have same problem and no one know the reason. Why it cant larger files when plug in the phone with USB cable, but it works over Wifi and some apps. But with much slower speed if using wifi.
Format the card in a Win 7 pc as exfat, i believe the note will read exfat and that handles files of over 4gb. Other than that you need to root and use an NTFS mount app.
dt33 said:
Wish its that simple.
Read again what i wrote: "I can transfer large file over 4GB with SDCard adapter plugged in computer, but can't with phone connected to computer "
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Perhaps it's some sort of MTP limitation then.
Wouldn't the fastest way be to use a card reader?
- Frank
I can confirm exactly same observation on my new Note 2. I am using SanDisk UHS-1 64GB and Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit. The card is formatted to exFAT (confirmed in Windows) and I can copy 8GB file to it, using cheap SD card <--> USB adapter. When I put the card into Note 2 and connect the phone to Windows, it will pop up as GT-7100 with "Card" (external SD card) and "Phone" (internal storage).
Once I try to copy the same file to "Card" (using Windows Explorer), the system first asks if I am sure (because the format may not be supported by phone) and then quits with error message saying the file size is not supported (and nothing is written to the "Card" filesystem).
It seems like some limitation on MTP (or whatever it is), but I am confused, because from other threads I understood, there should not be any limitation on MTP regarding the file size.
It seems the solution could be direct access to the card via USB mass storage protocol, but it is unfortunately not available too.
Anyone knows if it is just a glitch, or new "feature" in JB?

How do I transfer a 12GB video on to external sd?

I can't do that unless i format my sd but then the phone wouldn't accept it. any work around?
The phone will accept a SD card formatted to exfat..
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JupiterdroidXDA said:
The phone will accept a SD card formatted to exfat..
Sent from my Galaxy Note II
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Doesn't work. I formated it to exFat like you said but then my 64GB microSD san disk card reads less than 1KB. I then tried to drag and drop teh 12gb file and it says file is too big for its destination.
format it to NTFS and mount it by some apps or format it to ext4
JoJo2211 said:
Doesn't work. I formated it to exFat like you said but then my 64GB microSD san disk card reads less than 1KB. I then tried to drag and drop teh 12gb file and it says file is too big for its destination.
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My 64 gb formats to exfat just fine. If your phone wont do it then format from windows. If your trying to copy file over using Kies it wont work regardless if its exfat. You can try FTP or UMS
ciscostud said:
My 64 gb formats to exfat just fine. If your phone wont do it then format from windows. If your trying to copy file over using Kies it wont work regardless if its exfat. You can try FTP or UMS
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i formatted from windows too and it shows exfat but after i put it into my phone it shows less then 1MB of space. I then have to format it within the phone to get th 59gb of space to show. even then it shows exfat but doesn't take files larger than 4gb. i'm not using kies. just simple drag and drop using a card reader.
Like said, just use a pc memory card reader to transfer it.
Isn't a 12gb video file a little wasted on a small 720p screen?
munkiii said:
Like said, just use a pc memory card reader to transfer it.
Isn't a 12gb video file a little wasted on a small 720p screen?
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If you don't want to remove the micro sd card, download the Samba filesharing app from Google Play......you can then directly access your media from your Windows PC and just copy/paste the files/folders you want.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba&hl=en

[Q] Formatting SD Card / 2.5" HDD to None FAT32 ?

Is it possible to format an external SD card or a 2.5" HDD connected via OTG to something other than FAT32 and make the tablet (8.4) see it ?
I've searched and found pages and YT vids about formatting to EXT2 and 3 etc, but they all seem to be for moving apps/games to the SD card with software like Link2SD etc.
I've formatted the SD and HDD to none FAT32, but haven't used the Link software. But, obviously the tablet can't see the card/drive.
I'm just wanting a storage location, not to move apps/games.
The reason is, I want to be able to download RAR files when away from home, then extract the files, but most of the files I'd download would extract to over the 4GB limit.
At the time of writing the tablet isn't rooted, but will be soon.
Thank for any help :fingers-crossed:
EDIT:
Never mind, I figured it out.

SD Cards with Filesystem other than FAT32

Hey,
has anyone had any success with using SD cards formatted with something other than FAT32 on the Redmi Note 8 Pro? The 4GB file size limit and limits on usable characters in file names (although there might be easy workarounds for that one, haven't tried yet) make FAT32 a really poor choice for me. I have tried formatting the card with exFAT, NTFS, as well as ext2/3/4, but it recognized none of them. I get that Xiaomi haven't licensed exFAT or NTFS, but I don't see why ext2/3/4 wouldn't work. Probably just disabled in the stock kernel?
There's also this option to use the SD card as an extension to the internal storage. Not sure what filesystem that uses, but it doesn't seem like a very transparent and portable thing to do.
My device is rooted, so I'd be interested in root-only options as well. It's probably possible to get it working with external apps that include FUSE drivers (I have exFAT working using EDS on another device), but I'd prefer a "native" solution.
Thanks!
Alemarius Nexus said:
There's also this option to use the SD card as an extension to the internal storage. Not sure what filesystem that uses, but it doesn't seem like a very transparent and portable thing to do.
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When I cannot answer your other questions ATM, I can already answer that one since I tried it with other devices and this one is no exception.
As you suspected, that's definitely is not a portable solution. You can no longer use the SD card as a plug and play portable solution.
That said it does not sound like a very good idea to keep ejecting that SD tray to transfer files, that would be done more easily with either an hybrid USB-C USB-A pendrive or just an OTG USB-C cable.
However that's always good to have an SD card in there to backup important files with a few thumbs presses at any time.
Speaking of USB-C drives/OTG cables, it is possible those do not have the same limitations SD card might have when inserted internally. I have not looked into it just yet because I usually do not put files that big on my phone, but I can see it could be a problem (large video files or backups for example).
Hope this helps (a bit).
Regards.
PS: As root have you tried to manually mount those drives formated as ext{2|3|4} from a terminal?
Try this, -
Connect SD card to PC.
Do back up of important files from SD card.
Open 'Disk Management' in Windows.
In 'Disk Management' delete all partitions on SD card.
Leave SD card unformated.
Download software 'SD Card Formatter'
Format SD card with this software.
Test SD card on Redmi Note 8 Pro.
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