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[android] NAND flashale android !!USER!! Questions UPDATED MANY HOW TO'S

Hi there, as many of you may know dzo or simple god makes a flashable version of android for our KAISERs.
But vefore here are some rules:
THIS THREAD IS MADE TO KEEP THE FLASHING ANDROID ON KAISER DEV THREAD CLEAN FROM USERQUESTIONS!!!
DON'T ASK USER QUESTIONS IN THE DEV THREAD!!!
This Thread is for experienced Kaiser users who aren't in development but wan't to see android running native from NAND.
THIS IS AT THE CURRENT STATE VERY VERY VERY BETA, THERE MAY BE A HIGH RISC TO BRICK YOUR DEVICE. THIS WILL COMPLETLY WIPE WINDOWS MOBILE. JUST USE IT IF YOU CAN ANSWER YOURSELF THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS: (without search function)
-What is an .nbh file
-how to flash a kaiser
-What is HardSPL /Security unlock
-How to recover a bad rom flash?
-What to do if your device won't start anymore?
-Do you have basic android skills?
Ok Guys, little cleanup and updates:
INDEX:
-Post one:
Different flashing methods
Things to take care off
-Post two:
How to creat your own nbh files
How to make custom splash screens
-Post three:
Working Systems/rootfs
Bugs
Usefull Links
Thanks
HOW TO START ANDROID FROM NAND
Method one:
1-Download one of the nbh's here http://www.megaupload.com/?f=SA71F1MT, you'll have to look for the right panel type, Key layout and resolution needed for the rom you're flashing, just like your default.txt from sd boot.
2-Download http://www.mediafire.com/?zldjhfnkzk2
3-Copy the androidinstall.tar from the androidinstall.zip file to the root of your sdcard
4-delete/rename any old android files on your sdcard
5-Unzip the androidinstall.zip and replace the ruu_signed.nbh in it with the one you downloaded in the first link. (must be named ruu_signed.nbh)
-6Run the custom ruu.exe - thats all after reboot you'll have a flashed Cupcake android.
Method two:
1-delete/rename any old android files on your sdcard
2-Download one of the nbh's here http://www.megaupload.com/?f=SA71F1MT, you'll have to look for the right panel type, Key layout and resolution needed for the rom you're flashing, just like your default.txt from sd boot.
3-Create three empty files on your sdcard wihout any extension:
-datafstonand
-systemfstonand
-rootfstonand
4-Copy your prefered rootfs.img, system(img,ext2,sqsh) and an empty data.img to sdcard root
5-Copy the nbh file you downloaded to the root of your sdcard and rename to kaisimg.nbh
6-Reboot your device using restart button and cam button, then when it tells you, press power key to flash the new nbh.
-Reboot by pulling the battery - Thats it ( First start may take a while and may reboot randomly, just give it some time)
Different Tricks and hints (collected in the forums):
-Change Panel Type:
Run: "echo 1 > /sys/module/board_htckaiser/parameters/panel_type" through adb or init
-Experimental GPS:
For working, gps you need to replace libgps.so with the one from the vogue gps thread.
Experimental openGL Drivers ( Eclair Only)
-Download this one and flash your prefered nbh: http://rapidshare.com/files/345432577/kasiandroid_nbh_with_opengl.zip
-Install the included script sheduler, and replace the afterboot.txt with the one included in the zip file
This will install an app that will run the afterboot.txt after every boot and fix file permissions.
-Or you can open the afterboot.txt and run it in terminal after every boot.
To see if it works install the included gallery3d.apk, iff you see thumbnails, it worked

Not tested by me, yet through no time.. (Thanks to quitlahok and rzk333 for this manual)
THIS IS JUST FOR THOOSE WHO ARE MORE IN DEVELOPMENT AND LINUX
HOW TO CREATE YOUR OWN NBH FILES:
1- Set up your prefered Linux Setup, i use Debian.
2-Build kaiser kernel with wiki manual
3-git clone git://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/androidhtc/tinboot
4-git clone git://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/androidhtc/bootenv
5-cd bootenv
6-cp buildInitrd buildInitrd-mini
7-nano (or whatever your favorite editor is) buildInitrd-mini
8-change all instances (2 of them) of initrd to initrd-mini
9-sh buildInitrd-mini
10-cd tinboot
11-nano tinboot.S
12-the paths to fix are at the bottom of the file, it's pretty self-explanatory. higher up in the file you'll see the kernel cmdline under an .ifdef kaiser line
13-after that you'll need to download and extract any windows kitchen, and install wine however your linux distro requires and make a note of the path you extract nbhmerge.exe to as you'll need it in your tinboot.S file, along with the path to your kernel zImage and initrd-mini.gz
after that if you've got everything else in place, go ahead and run the compilekaiser script in the tinboot dir and you should have an nbh
if the nbh won't flash (i had this issue) copy the output.nb file, boot into windows, and use nbhutil.exe to convert it to an nbh and flash that one. for some reason yang doesn't work right for me personally
HOW TO CREATE CUSTOM SPLASH SCREENS: (this is a manual by POV)
1. Install HardSPL.
2. Create a BMP file in paint, size must be 240x320, save it as BMP 24bit.
3. Download SplashTool
4. Load your BMP on nb_image_converter (included in SplashTool's zip) and save it as splash.nb
5. Open SplashTool.exe and convert splash.nb to new format.
6. Pack the resulting splash.nb into a NBH file using htc rom tool.
7. Flash your cusotm NBH using CustomRUU.
This will not harm your installed android

WORKING SYSTEMS / ROOTFS'S: ( Collected in the forums)
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587116 ION Donut, reuploaded by 160bpm
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980 MYNs warm Donut
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619718 Jamezelles Sense Tattoo
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591104 Plemens Donut AOSP
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603028 Jamezelles Sense Hero
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619285 Shidells Android 2.1
rootfs 2010-01-06 works best for me get it here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/
Bugs:
NOT WORKING: WiFi, GPS, Voice Call, Bluetooth
(GPS experimental with the files from first post)
Usefull Links:
Android on Sourceforge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/
Android on htc Website:
http://www.androidonhtc.com
dzo's page:
http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
Android SDK:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/
Tinboot dev thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614275
Thanks:
dzo, plemen, jamezelle, zenulator, enatefox, mssmision, vilord, rzk333, diagdave
SORRY IF I'LL FORGET ANYONE

Here's a couple boot screens I made.

Thanks i'll add this to the first post

Thanks JeckyllHavok, good idea I keep posting over here am not into kernel things anyway

Ok after a few attempts I finally got Android flashed, and running, using my backup kaiser, which has no network connection, so the lack of wifi is a bit of a problem, but seems to be working fine so far, and fast
Just wondering if it would be possible to flash other versions, like eclair or even flan, since polyrhythmic's eclair version seems to be nice and stable, or is this going to fast to soon?

Just tested this with sshidels nexus rom, but itjust ends in bootscreen loops. Maybe other roms work

Looks like in need to learn to read. I found these instructions in the Vouge forum:
Method 2:
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Check here for NBH files containing a linux kernel and initrd to allow you to flash android to your vogue and wipe windows completely.
The ROMs are dated and there are three versions.
They are identical except the resolution; 240x320, 320x428 and 320x480.
This rom will copy your rootfs, system and data to nand (the internal storage of the phone) so you will only be running from nand. To do this, make sure you have a working setup (using system.sqsh and data.img without partitions) and install the new rootfs. Make sure it still works.
Make sure you have a carrier rom to go back to. Android currently doesn't let you change any of the radio parameters so you would have to flash back to a carrier rom to re-provision your phone.
Now create 3 empty files in the root of your sd card called:
rootfstonand
systemfstonand
datafstonand
These must be all lower case with no extensions and they will be deleted once each fs has been copied.
Now flash the rom corresponding to your resolution and wait.
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Buried for stupidity. Works great so far.

Flashing now.
1st edit: We have Android .
2nd edit:26 min it just turned itself off ... creepy ... soft reset ....I'll post back results.
3rd:39 min later Actual Phone screen came up No SIM ..Opps rebooted waiting agian.

What is working/not working with this flash.

From what I've read everything except.
Blutooth
wifi
GPS
Still waiting back at ANDROID screen

I have successfully flashed THIS BUILD using the following method:
dzo said:
...create 3 empty files in the root of your sd card called:
rootfstonand
systemfstonand
datafstonand
These must be all lower case with no extensions and they will be deleted once each fs has been copied.
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It's a little small and awkward due to the set resolution, but it's possible to flash different builds!
Another note: When flashing builds it takes a very long time, but when it gets to the setup android screen it has a system FC and the screen doesnt respond. This has happened everytime. I had to pull the battery and when I boot it up a second time it boots just fine.

loserskater said:
I have successfully flashed THIS BUILD using the following method:
It's a little small and awkward due to the set resolution, but it's possible to flash different builds!
Another note: When flashing builds it takes a very long time, but when it gets to the setup android screen it has a system FC and the screen doesnt respond. This has happened everytime. I had to pull the battery and when I boot it up a second time it boots just fine.
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Hi
Can you please send me the files on the sdcard. I am having an issue with every build.
Thanks

Did wifi work with any builds?

I think no, not now

Tilt
Hey all,
Working great on my tilt except the ringer just rings in the earpiece at like phone call volume. You can't really hear it unless you have your ear against it. Any thoughts?
I used DZO's build of 1.5 and one of the NBH filwa from Ra333 as the DZO one did not work.

Jaguarius said:
Hey all,
Working great on my tilt except the ringer just rings in the earpiece at like phone call volume. You can't really hear it unless you have your ear against it. Any thoughts?
I used DZO's build of 1.5 and one of the NBH filwa from Ra333 as the DZO one did not work.
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Are the keys on the slide keyboard working correctly

OK now got two nand flashed kasiers, (both kais130), first using the 'original' flash method, ( dzo nbh, androidinstall.tar), and the other method from the vogue threads, with polyrhythmics Eclair build, which is much slower, ( uses SD card rather than Nand?).
Both seem to be working as well as can be expected at this early stage of Nand flashing.
What I would like to know is how to 'upgrade' our zImage, since some builds have a different zImage version than the one we are currently flashing with, ( I am assuming our zImage is in the NBH flash), since this may help enable wifi/gps which we are presently lacking.

system.img Download?

So I am trying to follow the instructions found on the wiki (I'd like to it but the forums are preventing me from posting URLs at the moment) for installing Android on my HTC AT&T Tilt device and I was wondering, where do I download the system.img for Android from? I've been searching around online and cannot find it anywhere...
Many Thanks,
~Jeff

www.androidonhtc.com should have everything for your device
more specifically http://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Latest_Builds_(Kaiser) for kaiser http://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Latest_Builds_(Polaris) for polaris and http://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Latest_Builds_(Vogue) for vogue

R3TR3C said:
should have everything for your device
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Thanks, I had downloaded the files from that page. It was just confusing because the step by step reads like you need to download a system.img from somewhere when this file in generated when you install Android. Got it loading... Now on to figuring out why it won't boot!
~Jeff

JeffHoogland said:
Thanks, I had downloaded the files from that page. It was just confusing because the step by step reads like you need to download a system.img from somewhere when this file in generated when you install Android. Got it loading... Now on to figuring out why it won't boot!
~Jeff
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What do you mean when you say "won't boot"? Does your phone show the Linux logo and rolling text, does it show a boot logo animation. Give us some hints and we'll try and sort this out for you.
edit: I see you started another thread, I guess you are working out your issues in that one instead.

binlabin said:
edit: I see you started another thread, I guess you are working out your issues in that one instead.
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Yea, sorry. One issue for one thread. Keeps things more organized.
~Jeff

linux logo and scolling txt
well, i will hijack her thread since i am at that point.
i did follow the wiki and downloaded the files for the kaiser. i looked at the files and noticed a zimage but no system img file. do i need to compile the package on my linux box then put it on the sd card to run the haret file?

System.IMG/SQSH is deprecated. Use a androidinstall.tar build such as myn warm android. Everything there work including BT and camera.

As thebulletfromhell said, the system.img/sqsh file method of installing Android is now very outdated, and the more mature builds are using the Androidinstall.tar method, this method has several advantages, a menu driven installer, easier updating, greater stability, less problems caused by mis-matched rootfs/system/zimage files.
The two main builds at the moment are; Myns Warm Donut : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980
And Polyrhythmics Eclair 2.1 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154
Both of these are probably the best supported and most widely used ports to Kaiser hardware.
There are other builds of course, but as a newer user of android I'd recommend these two first.

Hello. I had some troubles running Android on my HTC TyTN II.
The system boots but I see on the console an error message saying "can't find system.img" or something similar.
I downloaded the latest versions of everything but androidinstall.tar is not enough.

i have same problem

Its due to the kernel's Sys & Data boot parameters. Just use any of the newer kernels which carry support for both NAND and SD

[HaRET] hx4700 linux development - ubuntu image available

Soft chewy center
Here are instructions and downloads that will have you on your way in no time, to running Linux on an IPAQ hx4700.
Step 1: Download a disk image
Ubuntu light weight X desktop download
Android download currently this barely boots
Step 2: Uncompress the file
See p7zip link
Step 3a: Copy the image to a CF or SD card using Linux
Open a terminal and navigate to the directory where you extracted the img file.
Code:
cd somedirectory
Copy the image to the card using dd
Code:
sudo dd if=image-name.img of=/dev/sdx
Where x is the destination of your card. Note there is no partition number "i.e. /dev/hda1" Just the destination letter /dev/hda
Step 3b: Copy the image to a CF or SD card using Windows
Code:
stub
Step 4: Edit startup.txt if you are using a SD card
Code:
stub
Step 5: Run HaRET
Safely remove the card from your computer, insert it in to your hx4700 navigate to the card directory using the file manager then click on haret.exe
Hard crunchy shell
Stuff for the masochist that lives inside you.
Kernel 2.6.21-hh20
Found the source tarball for 2.26.21-hh20 on this link.
I found an android patch for 2.6.21 at this link.
Finally I hammered out this patch that applies smoothly with no fuzz.
And here is my .config file.
Android usb gadget and the low memory killer currently need some love. But without configuring them the kernel compiles nicely
A-Z build instructions
Code:
stub
HaRET
I use HaRET to boot linux on the hx4700, until that day comes when I have learned enough about the hx4700 to provide a ROM, tinboot isn't really that hard to use.
Also the latest HaRET does not boot the hx4700 maybe it is being built with a newer instruction set, until I get a newer version compiling there is an older version in the .img files that works fine.
stub- haret from source
Filesystems
These xxx.img files should be written to a cf card using dd, or sd card if you change startup.txt and the swap file in /dev/fstab. The card should be no less than 1 GB. Gparted can resize/move your partitions if you have a larger card.
I have to admit I don't have a 1gb card to test the img file on, only a 4 and 2 GB card. If someone who does have one finds out that it doesn't boot or something let me know.
Card image layout:
fat16 16mb [haret] partition 1
ext 880mb [root] partition 2
linux-swap 128mb [swap] partition 3
Creating an Ubuntu file system
Creating a file system to run Linux on the hx4700 via HaRET. Rootstock is a tool the will pull down precompiled packages suitable for various devices, from a server. Then install, unpack, and configure them on a disk image file system inside a virtual machine, all without you leaving the comfort of your x86 compatible environment.
For rootstock I followed this guide link.
I used this command to create the image.
Code:
sudo ./rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login xda --password xda --imagesize 3G --seed tslib,build-essential,openssh-server,lxde,gdm --dist jaunty
I'm still thinking of including gnome-core simply for more function but lxde will have to do as the session manger. Gnome is just to heavy.
Light weight X download link at top of page
working:
the Mouse pad is configured
all drivers and firmware load
auto login via gdm.conf
/etc/network/interfaces is preconfigured for usb net and stubbed out for wireless.
not working:
touch screen - needs configured
wireless?? - I think only OPEN or WEP is supported ATM.
Android
stub- building the android filesystem
android.img download link located at top of post
now if I could just get the hang of making my forum post... not ugly

Nice! very nice!

Marvelous news, THX man!

...i love you! :']
As soon as I found this thread I smiled like a giddy school girl. My hx4700 might just be useful once again! I know nothing on programming... but i'd be glad to help out in any way possible!

Update folks,
I was up all night slaving away at this but, WE HAVE AN ANDROID PATCHED KERNEL!!! its 2.6.21.hh20 with android patches. This means the drivers should be easier to get worked out.
And Android almost boots, I suspect its the generic "goldfish" file system or some other trivial thing stopping it from booting all the way.
After mounting root and running /init, It shows the message "A N D R O I D_" then freezes well not really freezes the cursor continues to blink. but still almost there...
edit - links added

thanks
thanks a lot it's very usefull

Just seen a boot animation, it just got real people... but still not booting all the way.

keep up the good work...seems that this is the only development going on for my trusty iPaq 4700.......

I just want to say thanks for all the supportive comments. It's a real shot in the arm when I'm feeling over whelmed by the complexities of this. I did something really stupid with "sudo dd" last night and boogered up my root file-system, so I'm spending today re-setting up my build environment

All of the hardware is supported but just not pushed upstream but I’m working on a new 3.0 kernel right now for the universal when I finish I will add the hx4700 patches and post the source and message you. But I know wifi, Bluetooth, touchpad, sound, led, and all buttons work in 3.0. And these are the same on the universal and I have these working with froyo now. But I can post my 2.6.36 kernel I’m using now after I make a few corrections.
Here's my form page link
And this is where some of my code and android builds are: link
The common.tar.gz is my old 2.6.36 kernel I have to make some corrections and fix the hx4700 code I messed up and reload it in a day or so.
--I had to post this here as I got a message that you cannot receive private messages.

Thanks!
Don't know why you got that message, I did get your PM.

Could you make a tutorial, step by step how to run android(haret, etc.) on hx4700, please?
I'm noob in windows mobile tools

im currently running Angstrom on my hx4700
but would love android too..
havent tried any of these images yet. but ill probably have some
spare time this week..
/Kyndal

On tenterhooks ...
It failed to boot (couldn't mount /dev/hda2 I think) when I tried to install and run from a Compact Flash, so I'm in the middle of dd-ing to an SD card instead. Fingers crossed ...
EDIT: It boots fine from the SD card.
However, it's rather sluggish at best, and there don't seem to be many productivity apps -- and no onscreen keyboard. Still, it's a start!
EDIT 2: Attached a small photograph for the curious. Sorry about the blur, but I couldn't manage a better shot, given the lighting and the camera's fudged-up CCD.
kyndal said:
im currently running Angstrom on my hx4700
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How in the world did you manage that? I've been trying to get Angstrom working on my hx4700 for months now, without success. (Aside from an old bootpack that literally has no useful programs.)

I haven't had much luck with any "new" Angstrom builds from the
narcissus online builder..
Right now. im running an older X11 build
booting from SD card .img file
Functional.. but ya. not up to date..
/Kyndal

kyndal said:
I haven't had much luck with any "new" Angstrom builds from the
narcissus online builder..
Right now. im running an older X11 build
booting from SD card .img file
Functional.. but ya. not up to date..
/Kyndal
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I would like a copy of this .img file (cleaned of personal stuff, of course). It'd be nice to have a usable Angstrom for a change.

you can try it out with the prebuild images (OLD)
apparently im not allowed to post external links yet...
so go to this address
angstrom-distribution.org/releases/2007.12/images/hx4700/
and download
Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-hx4700.rootfs.img.bz2
Angstrom-boot-2.6.21-hh20-r6-hx4700.exe
extract the .img file from bz2 to a FAT SD card
and place the .exe there too..
run the .exe select the img file. can be a little fiddly on the "touchpad"
"enter" is like in the middle. and half the time moves the cursor up/down
this linux lives in the loop .img file on vfat..
not on partitions. so pretty easy to try..
run these commands to get online with wifi
su
/sbin/modprobe acx
/sbin/modprobe hx4700-acx
/sbin/iwconfig wlan0 essid ACCESSPOINT
/sbin/ifconfig wlan0 up
/Kyndal

kyndal said:
you can try it out with the prebuild images (OLD)
Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-hx4700.rootfs.img.bz2
Angstrom-boot-2.6.21-hh20-r6-hx4700.exe
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Yeah, I've tried the image before - months ago -- but I didn't know about those commands /sbin! I'll give them a try and see if I can get anything useful installed (the image comes without any useful GUI - or even CLI, for the most part - applications).
EDIT: Unfortunately, even though the package manager seems to be capable of fetching the correct packages (it's hard to tell), it consistently fails to install them -- I even tried installing man and nano (one at a time) and was met with failure even though the URLs check out. (abiword took longer before failure, hence my suspicion it downloads fine).
I apologize for derailing the thread like this, but this is the only place I've found since I got interested in putting Linux on my iPAQ where someone is actually *answering* my questions.

It's ok Strife89, I appreciate you all actively helping out, I was out of town house hunting last week.
Maybe everyone here could come up with a "wish list" request for packages to be installed among other useful things/configuring/etc, so we can all help polish the ubuntu installation, and make it something nice/useful.
As far as android goes, I have more confidence in the kernel than I do the file system, as to where I am right at this moment, donut will boot and show a boot animation. That is as far as I have gotten, but still it is progress.
I look forward to working with anyone interested with helping out, so lets here some thoughts/suggestions.

Well let me add mine first I guess we need a clearer easier tutorial on getting linux booting from the sd or cf card. both of these options have subtle differences and need better defined instructions.
edit- As far as installing apps to the ubuntu.img. The usbnet interface is configured on the hx4700 side hopefully, if some one wants to do some googling on how to get it setup all the way on the PC side of things, I think we would all appreciate that. Then we could just ssh in and apt-get anything we wanted to try out or change. Later we could make it part of the download/tutorial after testing.

Rooting Every Spreadtrum SC6820/SC8810 phones ! (1.5)

Hello,
In this thread I will teach you every method I had to use to root any Spreadtrum devices, Starting with the riskless ones to the reckless ones.
I have to warn you that the last root method (using ResearchDownload to load a modified system.img) may be dangerous ! (because of possible partition table changes)
The others methods are pretty safe, don't be afraid by them if you do exactly what I wrote.
Theses processors are also named SP6820 and SP8810, it's exactly the same processor, it's just some misnaming from Chinese sellers.
Theses methods do work on the newest Spreadtrum CPUs, like the SC7710 (the 3G WCDMA model), and the more powerful SC8825/SC6825 (dual core).
Why buying a Spreadtrum based phone ?
They are really cheap, and they work amazingly well ! They can play some games and emulators very well, that's unexpected for such low end devices (50$ or less)
They usually only have 256MB of RAM but despite that, they still runs well ! (I tested a lot of games and some 3D games are working flawlessly, pretty amazing) - I discovered that they are using zram (or other swap methods) to provide more RAM by compressing it when needed. That's pretty neat and really helps with such a small amount of RAM !
They are very good as a portable multimedia device, to read mails, browsing the web, play some games, mp3, videos.
As a 2G phone they are competent, but the 2G modem is not as good as the one in MTK processors. (It takes longer to load something in the same conditions)
Boot very fast, and have decent battery life. (3-4 hours of video out of a 1200 mAh battery - 5-6 hours out of a 1800 mAh)
Why you should not ?
Not true anymore, but they were extremely difficult to root in some cases.
They don't seem to be well tested ... You can have a microphone so quiet nobody will be able to ear you. But it's easy to fix as you can see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38731407
They don't have any form of usable 3G support. (except the SC7710 who have WCDMA 850/2100 compatibility)
They usually have only 256MB of RAM again. So that can be a problem when you are, for example, using Opera Mobile Classic with more than 3 tabs. And make the transition between apps longer.
SC6820 and SC8810 model are all using Android 2.x, even if some are marketed as Android 4.0 phone (very big and blatant lie !)
They usually use android 2.3, but some are only Android 2.2 phones ! (The fake Android 4.0.3 for instance is usually only android 2.2)
SC6825 and SC8825 seems to only have a (real this time) Android 4.0.3 firmware. 4.1 are better is often advertised, but it's again ... lies ... Android 4.0 is not really suitable for phones with only 256 MB of RAM, so SC6825/8825 phones are pretty rough on the edges. Using more than one tab on the default web browser is asking for troubles for example.
They all use the MocorDroid Firmware. It's some kind of fork of Android that use NON-Standards and sometime buggy Launchers and they often use alternative keyboards like Go Keyboard which is kind of a bad choice considering the RAM and ROM constraints on theses devices ...
The only difference between the SC6820 and the SC8810 is the support for the Chinese form of 3G.
If you don't live in china, that means this two processors are essentially the same. (Don't trust sellers, the 8810 is NOT WCDMA "3G" compatible)
Some phones with the fake Android 4.0.3 based on 2.3.5 will brick themselves nearly 2 months after you first used it. It's a really weird behavior of this early Spreadtrum firmware. So if you have this firmware, just do whatever it takes to root it, make a backup and install CWM as soon as possible to be able to recover from this possible breakage. It's only a problem with a fraction of Spreadtrum phones, but you will be very happy if you have installed CWM before encountering it ^^ (applicable only if you bought one in 2012)
A lot of fakery in the Spreadtrum scene. For example fake MTK6515/MTK6572 phones that are in fact just SC6820/SC6825 phones with a firmware modified to lie its processor ID to populars android benchmarking tools like Antutu Benchmark.
If you are searching for a 512MB RAM phone, you'd better go for an MTK(6575/6572 or better) Phone. As you will never find a real 512MB Spreadtrum phone in the jungle of lies you are looking at ...
On all model with 2.3.5 based firmware (SC6820 and SC8810 essentially), you can have a lot of problems with the SIM card detection on some sim cards. For example I can't call somebody with mine, but I can answer a call or send/receive SMS ... Very weird bug ...
This bug seems to be related on the type a sim card you have. With some their is no problem at all.
I can confirm that it's working flawlessly on SC6825 and 8825 based phones with the real 4.0.3 based firmware.
Why rooting it ?
Because a lot of them come with a lot of sh*tty softwares, including the bad launcher and keyboard.
Because they can come with a "Virus" that can send SMS messages to china (so you have to pay for unwanted international SMS cost)
I myself have this Virus on one of my phones, as of now, I haven't noticed anything unusual. Just the useless, unkillable com.android.caivs.app process eating 15 MB of RAM doing nothing. (It is a significant waste of ram on such devices)
(As of now I only seen this malware on Feiteng devices - You can share your experience with this thing down bellow)
More about CAIVS here: http://web.archive.org/web/20110812021151/http://www.cseed.cn/chinese/news/portfolio2.htm
That virus was on most of the earliest Spreadtrum phones but don't seem to be a worry nowadays. But I haven't tried any new Feiteng devices. They were so poor in quality that I will never buy feiteng again so find it by yourselves if you feel adventurous xD
How-to do that ?!
If you are lucky you will be able to root your phone by traditional means.
If you are not, you can root them by manually adding the root utilities to the ROM.
I will describe every methods that you should try in order of difficulty and risks.
Before doing any of that, go to the android setting -> applications -> Development -> Check USB Debugging.
Universal Root utilities
Theses methods are safe, and the second one is, as of now, working on every Spreadtrum phones flawlessly !
1.1 - Z4Root
Just try z4root !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
z4root is a little tool to root Android 2.2 and sometime work on 2.3
It's known to work on devices with the fake Android 4.0.3 based on 2.2 and MocorDroid 2.2.2
It may work on more of them, just try, there is no risks at all.
Make sure you have at least 50 MB of available space on the /data partition before trying this. (not the SDCard, the Applications Space)
Try a temporary root to see if it works, then you can do the permanent root.
You will maybe have to try it 2 or 3 times before it works.
Even if it doesn't work, reboot the phone after this. Because it can eat your battery while running in the backgroung if it fails.
1.2 - vRoot
vRoot is a chinese tool to root many devices !
It's proved to work very well with Spreadtrum (and MTK) devices. I used it successfully on a lot of Spreadtrum devices, even the most recent ones (SC8825).
You only need a Windows Computer (I personally use it on Windows 7 32bits).
Then download it from here: http://www.mgyun.com/en/getvroot
Install it and then open it.
As of now you only need to plug your USB cable to your computer, and then click on the Root button. (you don't need to do anything else, don't touch your phone)
Once it's done and the phone rebooted you will be rooted !
The root app is some kind of custom chinese one, but it's working properly.
Don't try to replace it with SuperSU as SuperSU don't seem to work properly on Spreadtrum devices.
If you want to understand what the root app is saying, try to set the language on your device to English.
2 - Custom Firmware Flash
Please never use any custom firmware available in .pac file format ! Or at least, don't use them before doing a full backup of your current firmware !
Feiteng A7100 (only if you have the mt6515_c910_ht_en_4.0_v01 rom/firmware on it !!! If not, don't touch it, you will end up with a brick ! Or screen reversed, or other strange bugs): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149396
If you have a Feiteng A7100 I really recommend NOT TO USE this rom ! Why ? Because it only works on a fraction of A7100, newer releases of the same phone don't use the same firmware. With this tutorial here, you can root your A7100 easily and way safer. Please go to "4-" on this tutorial to know how to root your A7100.
If you append to find some others Custom roms for spreadtrum devices, or are making one, please send me a PM, I will link them here.
3 - Fastboot to the rescue !
If every fast, simple and secure methods are not working, then this will be difficult my friend !
3.1 - Find Fasboot
First, let check if we have fastboot in your phone !
Fastboot is a little tool inside the bootloader. It's here to help you flash the firmware.
Not every Spreatrum phones have it, so let's check if you are lucky !
You can access it by powering on the phone up while holding a key.
First power off your phone.
Then hold some button like volume+
while pressing this button, press and hold down the power button.
Keep holding the two buttons until the screen light up.
You should now have something on your screen. Maybe a system diagnostic tool (a menu with a set of system tests, that's totally useless) or maybe the recovery mode (a screen with a warning sign, and now your phone is stuck here until you pull out the battery) or, and that means victory, a screen that says "Fastboot".
If you are not on fastboot, but are on the Recovery or the System Test, turn the phone off again and try another button press at boot time exactly like I said before.
This time, try the Home button if you have one, or the Volume-.
You should also try buttons combinations. Like volume up and down at the same time. Home + vol Up, etc and maybe the 3 at the same time ...
(if you just boot as if nothing was pressed, you maybe have to unplug the battery, wait for a while and put it back before powering the phone on. Theses things are also not working when the usb/charging cable is plugged in - if some keys combinations are not doing anything, it's perfectly fine, it means they don't trigger any hidden boot mode)
If nothing bring fastboot up, you have to use the Spreadtrum Debug tool "ResearchDownload" ...
So Skip to "4-" ! ^^
3.2 - Install the drivers
If you append to find Fastboot, we will have to install the PC part of it !
Like every android phone, you have to install adb and his drivers to access the Android Debug Bridge.
You can find them and learn how they work here: http://dottech.org/21534/how-to-ins...ows-computer-for-use-with-your-android-phone/
On Ubuntu or Debian Linux you just have to install them that way:
Code:
sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot
You also have to install the phone drivers if you are using Windows:
ADB Drivers: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?c5nf3rlhxmxhu4x
Debug Drivers: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2tyg0k2xp3ejgyg
Mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/?o9km8vl287ev24j
Then you will have to tell adb what phone to use. By that I mean adding the PCI ID to a text file to tell adb that this peripheral is compatible.
The Spreadtrum PCI ID is 0x1782
add this line to "Your user directory/.android/adb_usb.ini"
Code:
0x1782
3.3 - Using fastboot to load CWM (Clockwork Mod)
CWM work on some of theses Spreadtrum devices, most of the time, the screen is reversed, but it works !
On some phone, you will be presented with a blank screen, but CWM will work ... That will just be very difficult to navigate ... (don't bother and use another method if you append to be in this boat)
Here are the recovery images available for Spreadtrum device to my knowledge:
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?u6uyignmdcpillt - extracted from a random SC6820 that I don't remember
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?bosnfcq9n65mtc5 - i9270+
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?xem49dy5dh99ml0 - 5830, S5830, Q5830, Q206 and GT-N9300 (maybe more)
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?adfwq6b5268qb58 - S9300 (SC6820A S3 Clone)
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?y2f7aaan4b00l1m - Feiteng GT-A7100 and probably more Feiteng devices.
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?lg7m6v49efzpnjk - 6500-TV or S560
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?6xn977jjsuusjan - N9300 (I9300 Clone)
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?d68wc334qn47tdd - S930 or N8820
If your device is not listed or the one for your device doesn't work, try them all, even if your phone is SC6820 and the recovery was made for SC8810, if none are working, we will have to flash the entire system partition, which is a lot more difficult and dangerous ...
Flashing CWM to the phone:
Linux Only: Initialize ADB:
Code:
sudo adb kill-server
sudo adb start-server
Boot your phone in fastboot mode.
Be sure your device shows up:
Code:
fastboot devices
if your device show up, it's time to flash
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
It's flashed ! Let's reboot now.
Code:
fastboot reboot
Start on CWM, if it works, you can start to root the phone !
Download this patch: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?131nsw87afzwb5v
Put it on the root of your SD Card.
Now you will have to boot on CWM, he is on the same key combination than the old useless recovery was. (Most of the time Volume- and Power)
You can also try this command with adb:
Code:
adb reboot recovery
Now it's the perfect time to do a full backup of your firmware with CWM, so please do so, that can come in handy. (please go to the end of this tutorial after rooting your phone to know how to make a FULL backup. CWM will only make a partial one.)
choose apply update.zip
Choose the file you have put on your sd card before
Apply it then reboot.
This update.zip have pushed everything needed to root your phone in the right place, you should be rooted now !
If you have an error like:"Can't mount /sdcard" you may have to try with another SD Card and be sure your SD Card if formated as Fat32.
3.4 - Using Fastboot to load a modified system partition image
Please follow the instructions down bellow on how to "5 - Create a rooted system partition image"
When you have done your Rooted system partition image, flash it like that:
Code:
sudo fastboot devices
#if your device show up, it's time to flash
Code:
sudo fastboot flash system system.img
#It's flashed ... Now let's reboot with all the apprehension of the world
Code:
sudo fastboot reboot
If it boots (should boot), you will be up and rooting !
4 - Spreadtrum ResearchDownload tool to the rescue !
First, if you have fastboot, use fastboot ! It's simple, more reliable, faster. It's bottomline better !
If you don't have fastboot or can't figure out how to bring him up on your phone despite trying for about an hour. This tool will most likely work.
First, you should use Windows XP 32bits. Even real XP or in virtualbox.
It might work on windows 7 32 bits and 64 bits but you will have to tweak the system to allow installation of non signed devices drivers ...
ResearchDownload work as this:
First you start the Channelserver - This thing is here to make a bridge between the tools and the driver.
Then you start ResearchDownload.
Now you can make a full firmware flash (you should not !! It's a terrible idea !) or flash a single partition. But to do that, unfortunately, you should have a compatible set of fdl files.
Finding them on google is impossible, you have to extract them from your full firmware .pac file.
If you can't find your firmware on the Internet, you will have to try every single one you can find from others firmwares. I gathered all the fdl files I could find in a single package, so it won't be that difficult.
It's highly probable that you will find one that will work with your phone. This thing have to boot the phone and flash the Nand Flash chip. I'm pretty sure there is not a lot of different ways to do this on a single processor.
I really don't know the risks of using a wrong fdl set. But we haven't seen any risks at all yet. Some will work on your phone, others will just do nothing. You will just have to try every single one until one work.
I named the folders with the names of the phones I know working with theses. So it will be easier to find the good one. (A7100, 6500-TV, 5830, Q206 and S930 users will feel very lucky ^^)
4.1 - Learn how ResearchDownload Work
First you have to install the drivers, you can find them here:
ADB Drivers: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?c5nf3rlhxmxhu4x
Debug Drivers: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2tyg0k2xp3ejgyg
Then you have to plug your phone to your computer with your micro usb cable. Your phone have to be powered on.
Be sure every pieces of hardware are detected and installed correctly.
As you can see, this phone is not just detected as an ADB device, or as a mass storage device.
It actually have an internal serial port to usb adapter !
In other words that means this processor provide a way to flash his nand very easily even if it is fully bricked. It's a rare and pretty good feature you don't see that often. In fact, most of the time you have to solder a real serial port yourself on the phone motherboard, then have to use a Serial to USB adapter to have this level of access to the hardware.
So yes, back to tutorial.
Now you will have to unplug your phone and turn it off.
You have to download the debug tools, you can download them here: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?rngukh111vqfr8h
First you have to start the channel server, you will have to disable your firewall for this app, it's because this tool use a network protocol to communicate with the other tools.
Then open ResearchDownload.
ResearchDownload is a weird flashing utility, it can open a .pac firmware file and can make a .pac out of .img files. You also can flash .img files and that's what we will do. But unfortunately it can't make a full backup ... So be careful !
The cog logo is here to let you open a .pac file. We don't need that as we probably don't have it.
The "two cogs logo" let you configure the flash utility.
Click on this to bring a new window.
On the download settings window, click on select product then choose your type of phone. (SC8810 or SC6820, it doesn't really matters if you take the wrong one out of those two.)
Then uncheck "Select All Files" as you don't have any of theses.
You can see FDL1 and FDL2 are still checked, and you don't have those files ...
As they are needed to start the Flash utility, we will have to find them.
I came across only 3 different FDL1 files, but for theses FDL1 it seems every phone have his own FDL2.
You will have to find the ones that work for you.
Here is an archive of nearly every FDLs available: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?c6q2gxobccv32oj
Choose one FDL1, and one FDL2 located in the same folder. (you can choose a File with a right click on the FileName blank space in front of FDL1)
Click on OK.
Then click on the "Play button" saying start download.
It may show some warning, it's not a problem.
Now, press Volume Down on your phone, then you have to plug it on the USB Port, still holding the button.
You can release the button when the flash begins.
You may have to press an other button than Volume-. Some phones are reported to use the Home Button instead.
You may also have to remove, wait a while, and reinsert the battery before holding volume- or after the flashing procedure to be able to start the phone.
If ResearchDownload shows you an error or timeout, try another set of FDLs Files. Keep trying until you find one pair that work !
If it works the flashing process should start right away. Just a millisecond after Windows have detected and initialized the device when you plugged it.
When you have the right FDLs, you can go to the next step, flashing something useful ^^ (we haven't flashed anything as of now, just been searching for a compatible flashing bios)
If your working FDLs folder does not have the name of your phone, please tell me what phone you have and what FDLs you used so I can rename them.
4.2 - Using ResearchDownload to load CWM (Clockwork Mod)
Do exactly as said before, but check the "Recovery" checkbox on Download Settings. and choose one of theses CWM images:
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?y2f7aaan4b00l1m - Feiteng GT-A7100 and probably more Feiteng devices.
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?lg7m6v49efzpnjk - 6500-TV or S560
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?6xn977jjsuusjan - N9300 (I9300 Clone)
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?d68wc334qn47tdd - S930 or N8820
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?xem49dy5dh99ml0 - 5830, S5830, Q5830, Q206 and GT-N9300 (maybe more)
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?bdl1qr7orsj4ebr - extracted from a random SC6820 that I don't remember
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?6g1t6057p6c8wpt - i9720+
* http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?adfwq6b5268qb58 - S9300 (SC6820A S3 Clone)
When you flashed one successfully, try to boot on recovery (Usually by holding Volume- while holding the power button until the screen light up).
If your device is not listed or the one for your device doesn't work, try them all, even if your phone is SC6820 and the recovery was made for SC8810, if none are working, we will have to flash the entire system partition, which is a lot more difficult and dangerous ...
Download this patch: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?131nsw87afzwb5v
Put it on the root of your SD Card.
Now you will have to boot on CWM, remember, he is on the same key combination than the old useless recovery was.
You can also try this command with adb:
Code:
adb reboot recovery
Now it's the perfect time to do a full backup of your firmware with CWM, so please do so, that can come in handy. (please go to the end of this tutorial after rooting your phone to know how to make a FULL backup. CWM will only make a partial one.)
choose apply update.zip
Choose the file you have put on your sd card before
Apply it then reboot.
This update.zip have pushed everything needed to root your phone in the right place, you should be rooted now !
If you have an error like:"Can't mount /sdcard" you may have to try with another SD Card and be sure your SD Card if formated as Fat32.
4.3 - Using ResearchDownload to load a modified system partition image
Now we are in deep **** ! This can be tedious ... You will need to drink a lot of coffee, then you will probably pull your hair off, but it's possible to root every single Spreadtrum devices this way !
Please follow the instructions down bellow on how to "5 - Create a rooted system partition image"
When you have done your Rooted system partition image, reboot on Windows, then flash it like that:
Do exactly as said on the paragraph on how ResearchDownload works, but check the "System" checkbox on Download Settings, and choose your modified system.img file to flash it on the device.
As it is still not tested at all, you will have to pray some kind of Spreadtrum God and hope it will be successful ...
The first boot after the flash can be very VERY long. It's perfectly normal.
After the flash is done, please make a full backup (see bellow how you can do that), so I can make a Clockwork recovery partition working with your phone.
You may need to flush your data partition with CWM to avoid some crazy bugs after the flash. You will have theses bugs because of the partitions realignment that might occurs as a result of using a slightly different FDL set as the manufacturer.
Don't even try to do a factory settings reset before installing CWM, as I don't know what monster can lie ahead if you do a factory reset without any working recovery installed
(If your phone doesn't boot after the flash, it is possible to flush the data and cache partition with ResearchDownload. I will explain it, if needed !)
5 - Create a rooted system partition image
Please always try the CWM method first ! There is no risks at all to destroy your phone if the recovery is not working. Here we are making a new system image to flash on the system partition, this partition contain the Android operating system. I will try to explain everything as good as I can, but if you make a mistake, if you don't read my warnings, you can brick your phone very easily !
That will be difficult ... And you will have to use a Linux computer, or Linux in Virtualbox, or in a Live CD, basically you will need Linux somewhere on your computer ^^
Why ? Because we will have to preserve unix permissions on an extracted tar archive ! Trust me, you will probably brick your phone if you do that on windows ...
#Install ADB
Code:
sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb android-tools-fastboot
#Configure ADB
Code:
mkdir ~/.android
Code:
echo 0x1782 > ~/.android/adb_usb.ini
#Start the ADB server
Code:
sudo adb kill-server
sudo adb start-server
#Just let's check just in case if your device is already rooted
Code:
adb shell su -c id
Possible answers:
uid = 0 (root) gid = 0 (root) - your phone is already rooted ! (if you haven't noticed it, it's because superuser.apk is not installed, so just push it and install it via ADB and you are rooted !)
SU: Permission denied - You are not rooted ... Good luck then !
#Now we will backup the system partition !
Code:
adb shell tar -cf /mnt/sdcard/system.tar system
Please pay attention to the errors !
There will be missing files, and we will have to add theses by ourselves after the backup to pretend to have a full backup.
Here is the archive for the known missing files: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?fm1z5ujc75bg268
If you have more than theses:
Code:
tar: can not open 'system/etc/dbus.conf': Permission denied
tar: can not open 'system/etc/bluetooth/audio.conf': Permission denied
tar: can not open 'system/etc/bluetooth/auto_pairing.conf': Permission denied
tar: can not open 'system/etc/bluetooth/input.conf': Permission denied
tar: can not open 'system/etc/bluetooth/main.conf': Permission denied
tar: system/lost+found: Permission denied
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
Then you should just give up, or tell me so I can send you the missing files.
Note: Lost+found is not important, it's just a folder automatically created by Linux to collect any corrupt files.
#Now we will pull this nearly full backup to our computer. Please keep it preciously somewhere secure.
Code:
adb pull /mnt/sdcard/system.tar
#Warning, theses next steps have to be made ONLY on Linux on an ext2/3/4 partition ! Please never attempts to do this on Windows or On Linux on a FAT32 partition.
#untar the archive
Code:
sudo tar -xvpf system.tar
#now we will restore the files we have not been able to backup.
#Download this archive if you haven't done this before: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?fm1z5ujc75bg268
#Then extract it on the same folder as you extracted your system.tar file with this command:
Code:
sudo tar -xvpf btdbus.tar
#Now it's time to add the root utilities, you can download them from here: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?v69nm172heos17o
Code:
sudo tar -xvpf root.tar
sudo cp Superuser.apk system/app/Superuser.apk
sudo install -m 06755 su system/xbin/su
#Now we will get rid of this virus ! (the file name can be something else. Like caivs.apk, or some random numbers at the end)
Code:
sudo rm system/app/eyuSales_20121116.apk
#And now you will have to make a flashable system image with this tool, included in the root.tar archive
Code:
sudo ./mkyaffs system system.img
#Now you can reboot your phone in fastboot or use researchdownload to flash your new System image.
6 - Do a full nand backup
Here is how to do a full nand backup of your beloved Spreadtrum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39270468
7 - Don't forget to remove to caivs Virus
When you are rooted, you can remove the Virus or any preinstalled apps using Link2SD.
I suggest you to remove everything you have preinstalled if it is available on the Google Play Store (except the keyboard or the launcher !!!). For example if you have an old version of ES File Explorer on your phone preventing you from updating it, you can remove it safely, then install the updated version from the the Play Store.
Never try to remove something that you don't know what it is !
For the Launcher or keyboard. You can remove them only if you installed a new one on the System partition and tested it successfully !
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I want to thanks every peoples at http://forum.china-iphone.ru and Yekdall for being one of the first to type something in English about spreadtrum firmware modding !

Data missing?
First of all, thanks a lot for tutorial! Unluckily there is missing the data that i should copy back into the tar and then the img-file. Could you upload the btdbus.tar and the root.tar?
Thanks again, have a nice day!

keulepeter said:
First of all, thanks a lot for tutorial! Unluckily there is missing the data that i should copy back into the tar and then the img-file. Could you upload the btdbus.tar and the root.tar?
Thanks again, have a nice day!
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I'm uploading them right now ^^
By the way, what phone are you rooting ? I will try to make a "compatibility list", so I need the model number, and the brand name if any.
Good luck !
EDIT: I added the missing links

Are the sc8810 and sp8810 the same processors?

lynnox said:
Are the sc8810 and sp8810 the same processors?
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Yes exactly the same, just a different way to name it.

ElectronikHeart said:
3 recovery images are available for Spreadtrum device to my knowledge:
1 http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?u6uyignmdcpillt
2 http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?bosnfcq9n65mtc5
3 http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?xem49dy5dh99ml0
Try them all, if none are working, we will have to do that the other way ...
Download this patch: """"""Link missing as of now, I have to upload it"""""""
Put it on the root of your SD Card.
Now you will have to boot on CWM, he is on the same key combination than the old useless recovery was.
choose apply a update.zip
Choose the file you have put on your sd card before
Apply it then reboot.
This update.zip have pushed everything needed to root your phone in the right place, you should be rooted now !
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patch pls. (update.zip)
I'll try to load CWM even though at the moment I can only get into recovery. I have the exact same model as H_Bler's which is why I've been focusing more on his thread. From your description on how to access fastboot, I assume that it's the diagnostic mode when UpVol + Pwr is pressed. I never saw anything that said fastboot. The only thing unusual when I was going through the menus was I always got an error when I try the 4th or 5th option. Unfortunately, I can't really try it again because I can't access it anymore. That goes without saying the I can't work with IMG files as well.
5 - Spreadtrum ResearchDownload tool to the rescue !
Now we are in deep **** ! This is not tested as of now ... So come help me ! You will need to drink a lot of coffee, then you will probably pull your hair off, but we will know if it's possible to root every single Spreadtrum devices !
5.1 - Using ResearchDownload to load CWM (Clockwork Mod)
5.2 - Using ResearchDownload to load a modified system partition image
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Something to look forward too.
I want to thanks every peoples at http://forum.china-iphone.ru and Yekdall for being one of the first to type something in English about spreadtrum firmware modding !
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I've also been going here. I even tried 3 of the ROMs but I always get the verification failed message. I know it might be too much, but exact links for the thread would really be much appreciated (to be honest, I can't even remember exactly where I got the ROMs. All I remember is that the thread had a lot of collapsible trees.
ElectronikHeart said:
I'm uploading them right now ^^
By the way, what phone are you rooting ? I will try to make a "compatibility list", so I need the model number, and the brand name if any.
Good luck !
EDIT: I added the missing links
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If and when I get my phone fixed/replaced. I'll try your method first. =P

jvrey5 said:
[Lot of things ...]
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Well the thing you have when you push up and power is the system test menu. It's located on the android system partition. It's not fastboot.
Fastboot should be something that says "Fastboot" in red letter, or something else unusual.
If you have not fastboot you should use Spreadtrum Researchdownload to flash your phone, I will write the tutorial about it soon.
I really can't link you the thread on the russian forum, first because it will probably confuse you, and also because it's spread everywhere on so many threads it's unbelievable ... That's why I'm doing this centralization work for you ^^
I will post a list of ROMS for recovery purpose. Your phone seem to be bricked. I don't know how you've done it (I really want to know what you phone is and how you've bricked it, that will help me to write the warnings necessary to avoid such cases).
I have 14 roms for Spreadtrum devices, maybe one will work for your phone.
I just want to know what your phone is ^^ Please tell the name of your phone on your posts everyone and if you know how to find it, the exact name of your firmware.
PS: I will upload the patch soon, I'm just searching for a file hosting service that will keep it up and not erasing it 2 hours after I uploaded it ^^
EDIT: Link to the update.zip for rooting you device via CWM added.

Tutorial updated: Spreadtrum debug tools method added.
It may now be possible to root even Spreadtrum devices without Fastboot mode available.
Please feel free to tell me if it works !

ElectronikHeart said:
Tutorial updated: Spreadtrum debug tools method added.
It may now be possible to root even Spreadtrum devices without Fastboot mode available.
Please feel free to tell me if it works !
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need help

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Dear Spreadtrum Master!
Please, can you help me with this problem:
I have a Star I8160 phone with Spreadtrum 6820 and 256 MB ROM. It seems, that everything is working fine, the ROM and the phone is fast, and cool. But when i try to use the phone as a phone, i talk to the phone, and the others just only hearing pieces of my sentences. Sometimes the phone is very-very silent, i need to shout for the others to hear. I thought, that this is a microphone problem, so i replaced the microphone. But nothing changed. I had 2 phones from this type, and both produces the same fault, so i think maybe the problem will be with the ROM. What do you think, is it possible? If so, can i replace my normal rom, which is DM_BASE_12A_w12.43 (sc6820_modem) 11-02-2012?

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Hi ElectronikHeart, i need help
I have a feiteng a7100, and i flash a rom with ResearchDownload.exe, in the flash operations tab i choose the option to erase all flash. Now i have a brick phone. Do you have a copy of nv.bin? Do you know how to recover from it? how can i reflash nand?
thanks

gtxphoenix said:
Dear Spreadtrum Master!
But when i try to use the phone as a phone, i talk to the phone, and the others just only hearing pieces of my sentences. Sometimes the phone is very-very silent, i need to shout for the others to hear. I thought, that this is a microphone problem, so i replaced the microphone. But nothing changed. I had 2 phones from this type, and both produces the same fault,
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The Master hasn't been in the past few days so I'll try to answer your issue as best I can.
Usually, the phones are designed for a specific region/country. It's possible that your ROM was built for a different one. How sure are you that the ROM which you are replacing it with will work for you? (I assume that you have a backup and you know how to load ROMs) Also, you might want to try editing the build.prop it increase/maximize reception.
To be honest, this is actually a complicated approach. From what you said, it seems that you've made other troubleshooting steps on your own. Since you really did not mention all of them I'm basing my response on what you said.
Let's try to stick to the basics first. Why did you replace the microphone in the first place? If the same issue happens with 2 other phones from this type, I don't think the mic is the problem. Also, does this mean that you can hear them fine, but they have a hard time hearing you? Have you tried using the stock sound recorder on your phone? Is it also choppy? Have you tried using Skype? You don't really have to call anyone, you just need to make a test call.
When using the device as a phone (eg. making calls, sending SMS, MMS, or connecting to the internet using EDGE or 3G), you're actually relying mostly on your carrier/service provider. How many signal bars do you get? The easiest way to test signal related issues would be by using a different SIM or using a different phone. (When you try a different phone, I suggest using a GSM one - the ones that can only make calls or do SMS.) It's highly possible that there's already something wrong with your SIM.
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jmss said:
Hi ElectronikHeart, i need help
I have a feiteng a7100, and i flash a rom with ResearchDownload.exe, in the flash operations tab i choose the option to erase all flash. Now i have a brick phone. Do you have a copy of nv.bin? Do you know how to recover from it? how can i reflash nand?
thanks
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ElectronikHeart hasn't checked in the past few days, so I hope you don't mind me butting in.
When you say brick, does it mean that you don't even have recovery mode? If you don't, try to see if you can put CWM. Once successful, you can try to use the A7100 ROM if your original one was a mt6515_c910_ht_en_4.0_v01 rom using the update.zip

jvrey5 said:
The Master hasn't been in the past few days so I'll try to answer your issue as best I can.
Usually, the phones are designed for a specific region/country. It's possible that your ROM was built for a different one. How sure are you that the ROM which you are replacing it with will work for you? (I assume that you have a backup and you know how to load ROMs) Also, you might want to try editing the build.prop it increase/maximize reception.
To be honest, this is actually a complicated approach. From what you said, it seems that you've made other troubleshooting steps on your own. Since you really did not mention all of them I'm basing my response on what you said.
Let's try to stick to the basics first. Why did you replace the microphone in the first place? If the same issue happens with 2 other phones from this type, I don't think the mic is the problem. Also, does this mean that you can hear them fine, but they have a hard time hearing you? Have you tried using the stock sound recorder on your phone? Is it also choppy? Have you tried using Skype? You don't really have to call anyone, you just need to make a test call.
When using the device as a phone (eg. making calls, sending SMS, MMS, or connecting to the internet using EDGE or 3G), you're actually relying mostly on your carrier/service provider. How many signal bars do you get? The easiest way to test signal related issues would be by using a different SIM or using a different phone. (When you try a different phone, I suggest using a GSM one - the ones that can only make calls or do SMS.) It's highly possible that there's already something wrong with your SIM.
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ElectronikHeart hasn't checked in the past few days, so I hope you don't mind me butting in.
When you say brick, does it mean that you don't even have recovery mode? If you don't, try to see if you can put CWM. Once successful, you can try to use the A7100 ROM if your original one was a mt6515_c910_ht_en_4.0_v01 rom using the update.zip
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I dont have recovery mode, the phone doesnt turn on. I already try to put CWN but it doesnt work. I need nv.bin file for sc6820a for rewrite nand flash.

jmss said:
I dont have recovery mode, the phone doesnt turn on. I already try to put CWN but it doesnt work. I need nv.bin file for sc6820a for rewrite nand flash.
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Now we really need the Master

gtxphoenix said:
Dear Spreadtrum Master!
Please, can you help me with this problem:
I have a Star I8160 phone with Spreadtrum 6820 and 256 MB ROM. It seems, that everything is working fine, the ROM and the phone is fast, and cool. But when i try to use the phone as a phone, i talk to the phone, and the others just only hearing pieces of my sentences. Sometimes the phone is very-very silent, i need to shout for the others to hear. I thought, that this is a microphone problem, so i replaced the microphone. But nothing changed. I had 2 phones from this type, and both produces the same fault, so i think maybe the problem will be with the ROM. What do you think, is it possible? If so, can i replace my normal rom, which is DM_BASE_12A_w12.43 (sc6820_modem) 11-02-2012?
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Hi,
I had the same problem with one of mine. You just have to use a diagnostic tool from Spreadtrum and adjust the microphone amplification level. I will start a thread on that subject and link it there.
It seems to be a very common problem with Spreadtrum phones, but it is, most of the time, very easy to fix.
edit: here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38731407
WARNING: Don't ever flash if you don't have a working copy of the original firmware somewhere (a complete backup that you have tested your ability to flash back) The first step to do a complete backup, if the manufacturer don't want to send you the firmware, is to successfully root your firmware)
Don't flash if you have a microphone problem, nothing good will happen, this problem is not firmware related AT ALL.

jmss said:
Hi ElectronikHeart, i need help
I have a feiteng a7100, and i flash a rom with ResearchDownload.exe, in the flash operations tab i choose the option to erase all flash. Now i have a brick phone. Do you have a copy of nv.bin? Do you know how to recover from it? how can i reflash nand?
thanks
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Oh god ! Why have you checked that option ^^
I may be able to dump my nv.bin file from the a7100 I just bought. (If I recall correctly, the nv.bin contain the imei so I will have to edit it to use your imei instead, imei are written in the battery compartment)
Can you try flashing it a second time entirely, It's possible that your uboot partition (what manage the early time boot operations), is not flashed properly.
Even without the nv partition you phone should be able to boot android, you will just not be able to use the phone as a phone. (make a call and everything)
Try with a better micro usb cable, Chinese ones can be very cheap and corrupt data on the way to the phone.
If your phone is still able to flash using ReasearchDownload that is.

Re: 4.5 - Do a full nand backup and help me make you a new CWM recovery
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4.5 - Do a full nand backup and help me make you a new CWM recovery
Please if you have rooted your phone using this method, and can't use the CWM method, that mean I can do a CWM that work on your device !
Now that you are rooted, you can make a full backup of your phone with ADB !
#open adb shell:
Code:
adb shell
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I still have to explain this if someone needs it
Then send me you boot.img file and I will send you a recovery.img that you can flash to your recovery partition.
That will help new users to root a lot faster the same phone as you, and will make your life easier is you have to restore a backup.
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I have also the same kind of chinese android phone, having a model # S930 with the same cpu chipset SP8810 (aka. samsung galaxy s3 clone), i've successfully rooted my chinese android phone, and installed some very usable apps like link2sd & titanium backup pro, i want also to have a full backup of my phone using your methods & ideas, can you help me? where can i find my boot.img so that you can make me my recovery image for my phone? my phone don't have any compatible clockworkmod recovery, but it have a native recovery mode option which work on an update.zip or fastboot....i hope you can help me make my phone recovery image with a rooted features... Thanks!

earl22online said:
where can i find my boot.img so that you can make me my recovery image for my phone?
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So, you already have tested every recovery already posted ?
To make a backup of your boot.img, you will have to do a full backup manually using the Android shell. I will make a tutorial about this, and link it here.
It's pretty easy as you already rooted your phone.
When you have your backup I will, post a recovery.img file suitable to your phone.
Please keep an eye to this post. I will post the tutorial very soon.

ElectronikHeart said:
Oh god ! Why have you checked that option ^^
I may be able to dump my nv.bin file from the a7100 I just bought. (If I recall correctly, the nv.bin contain the imei so I will have to edit it to use your imei instead, imei are written in the battery compartment)
Can you try flashing it a second time entirely, It's possible that your uboot partition (what manage the early time boot operations), is not flashed properly.
Even without the nv partition you phone should be able to boot android, you will just not be able to use the phone as a phone. (make a call and everything)
Try with a better micro usb cable, Chinese ones can be very cheap and corrupt data on the way to the phone.
If your phone is still able to flash using ReasearchDownload that is.
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I already try with tree micro usb cables. when i try to flash with researchDownload it failed at nvitem (after FDL2).
can you post a link to your nv.bin to test it ?

jmss said:
I already try with tree micro usb cables. when i try to flash with researchDownload it failed at nvitem (after FDL2).
can you post a link to your nv.bin to test it ?
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I just bought my A7100, so you will need to wait 2 weeks for me to dump it. Maybe you should try asking to the guy who have made the rooted rom for the A7100 ?
I will, none the less, make a full backup of my phone as soon as I receive it.

Bricked Phone After Magisk Install

Today, my phone got bricked after I installed Magisk, am i am looking for a way of sorting it out. The phone was running Android 9 DP3 when rooted, and I was following HighOnAndroids root guide on Youtube for reference,
I unlocked my bootloader and successfully installed TWRP. After this, I installed Magisk, which went throuygh perfectly fine. However, after rebooting the phone, I am stuck on the google splash screen, with a small progress bar that stays for the duration of the time on this screen. After about 2 minutes, the phone reboots into TWRP again.
Does anyone know how I could return to stock Android or at least escape this issue?
Many thanks
James

Jameswebb97 said:
Today, my phone got bricked after I installed Magisk, am i am looking for a way of sorting it out. The phone was running Android 9 DP3 when rooted, and I was following HighOnAndroids root guide on Youtube for reference,
I unlocked my bootloader and successfully installed TWRP. After this, I installed Magisk, which went throuygh perfectly fine. However, after rebooting the phone, I am stuck on the google splash screen, with a small progress bar that stays for the duration of the time on this screen. After about 2 minutes, the phone reboots into TWRP again.
Does anyone know how I could return to stock Android or at least escape this issue?
Many thanks
James
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Use duces script to flash June google factory image.

jlokos said:
Use duces script to flash June google factory image.
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I followed the guide on the DeucesScript XDA page but the command window keeps saying "'fastboot' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file."

Jameswebb97 said:
I followed the guide on the DeucesScript XDA page but the command window keeps saying "'fastboot' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file."
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You need this information (the stuff I made bold + the hyperlink):
Code:
If you are having issues with this script:
Download the latest fastboot and adb Platform Tools UPDATED Dec. 22, 2017!!! This is the most common problem!!!
Download/Update Google USB Drivers
Video: Force-Installing the Android USB Drivers Fastboot & ADB
[B]Verify you have the [URL="https://wiki.lineageos.org/adb_fastboot_guide.html"]environment variable (path)[/URL] set for adb and fastboot[/B]
Try a different USB port
Try a different cable
Format Userdata in Stock Recovery
Try to boot stock before doing mods like Locking Bootloader / Kernel / TWRP / Magisk

Jameswebb97 said:
I followed the guide on the DeucesScript XDA page but the command window keeps saying "'fastboot' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file."
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umph....hate to tell you, but you have a long way to go...
so before going on this "journey", I would suggest you booting into TWRP again, and try installing (not adb sideloading, just in case you're doing that) Magisk again. Also, be sure you are using the latest (might be considered "beta") 16.4 for taimen... I'm thinking your boot.img or dtbo.img simply may have gotten glitchy and repatching (by installing Magisk again) might fix it...
Also, if you want to go a step further, you might want to consider using the official Magisk uninstaller. Since Magisk makes a copy of your stock boot and dtbo image, it may put that back so you can get it in working order to get into the system (although without root), and then figure things out and/or reinstall Magisk (through TWRP is best) while all things Magisk was removed...
Good luck and hope this helps....

Make sure you are trying to open from the correct location, and put .\fastboot

EvilDobe said:
You need this information (the stuff I made bold + the hyperlink):
Code:
If you are having issues with this script:
Download the latest fastboot and adb Platform Tools UPDATED Dec. 22, 2017!!! This is the most common problem!!!
Download/Update Google USB Drivers
Video: Force-Installing the Android USB Drivers Fastboot & ADB
[B]Verify you have the [URL="https://wiki.lineageos.org/adb_fastboot_guide.html"]environment variable (path)[/URL] set for adb and fastboot[/B]
Try a different USB port
Try a different cable
Format Userdata in Stock Recovery
Try to boot stock before doing mods like Locking Bootloader / Kernel / TWRP / Magisk
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Ive tried all of this now, i got the script working, but now the phne says it is corrupt and i cannot get into recovery. Is this game over do you think?

simplepinoi177 said:
umph....hate to tell you, but you have a long way to go...
so before going on this "journey", I would suggest you booting into TWRP again, and try installing (not adb sideloading, just in case you're doing that) Magisk again. Also, be sure you are using the latest (might be considered "beta") 16.4 for taimen... I'm thinking your boot.img or dtbo.img simply may have gotten glitchy and repatching (by installing Magisk again) might fix it...
Also, if you want to go a step further, you might want to consider using the official Magisk uninstaller. Since Magisk makes a copy of your stock boot and dtbo image, it may put that back so you can get it in working order to get into the system (although without root), and then figure things out and/or reinstall Magisk (through TWRP is best) while all things Magisk was removed...
Good luck and hope this helps....
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This is good advice, thanks. i have a new problem (ugh), where i got the script working through changing the paths, but now the phone says that it is corrupt and i cannot access TWRP. Game over?

Jameswebb97 said:
Ive tried all of this now, i got the script working, but now the phne says it is corrupt and i cannot get into recovery. Is this game over do you think?
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With the unlocked bootloader it'll always say the device is corrupt. Manually put the device into the bootloader & flash the DeucesScript. You're basically starting over at this point but it is possible to get up & going again.

Jameswebb97 said:
This is good advice, thanks. i have a new problem (ugh), where i got the script working through changing the paths, but now the phone says that it is corrupt and i cannot access TWRP. Game over?
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EvilDobe said:
With the unlocked bootloader it'll always say the device is corrupt. Manually put the device into the bootloader & flash the DeucesScript. You're basically starting over at this point but it is possible to get up & going again.
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EvilDobe might be right...but I have a bit to offer before maybe starting all over...
I doubt you needed to edit the script and "change the paths." Most likely you merely did not have the images (you extracted from the .zip of the Full Factory image you got from the Google Developers site) inside the "platform-tools" folder with the adb & fastboot .exe and all the other files and folders.
In any case, I suggest you get the TWRP image file [.img] (NOT the installer .zip necessarily), put the .img file "... inside the "platform-tools" folder with the adb & fastboot .exe and all the other files and folders." (I've seen some users simply cut and paste those 2 .exe files only to the extracted folder -- this is why I state it this way) Then, power down your device. After it's off, hold down the Volume Down button and press & hold the Power button (this is the manual way to get into the Bootloader Mode). Once there, plug your phone into your computer (USB-A to USB-C would be best) and open a command prompt/powershell ("run as administrator" or with administrative priveleges) and direct it to the platform-tools folder (i.e. if I put it on my desktop, it would be "C:\Users\MyName\Desktop\platform-tools"), you can temporarily boot into TWRP via command
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fastboot boot twrp-3.2.1-2-taimen.img
When in TWRP (hopefully), I suggest trying to do what I advised before -- try either Magisk installer to repatch the boot and dtbo image, or Magisk Uninstaller to attempt to replace your boot and dtbo to stock.
*NOTE: Of course, this is assuming you are running Microsoft Windows (if not, you will need to input .\ as @naiku suggested) and also the whole "device is corrupt" is due to "funky" boot image issues. If not, I/we can guide you to flashing the Full Factory back onto the phone (hopefully without losing data and settings)...
Good luck and hope this helps...

simplepinoi177 said:
EvilDobe might be right...but I have a bit to offer before maybe starting all over...
I doubt you needed to edit the script and "change the paths." Most likely you merely did not have the images (you extracted from the .zip of the Full Factory image you got from the Google Developers site) inside the "platform-tools" folder with the adb & fastboot .exe and all the other files and folders.
In any case, I suggest you get the TWRP image file [.img] (NOT the installer .zip necessarily), put the .img file "... inside the "platform-tools" folder with the adb & fastboot .exe and all the other files and folders." (I've seen some users simply cut and paste those 2 .exe files only to the extracted folder -- this is why I state it this way) Then, power down your device. After it's off, hold down the Volume Down button and press & hold the Power button (this is the manual way to get into the Bootloader Mode). Once there, plug your phone into your computer (USB-A to USB-C would be best) and open a command prompt/powershell ("run as administrator" or with administrative priveleges) and direct it to the platform-tools folder (i.e. if I put it on my desktop, it would be "C:\Users\MyName\Desktop\platform-tools"), you can temporarily boot into TWRP via command
Code:
fastboot boot twrp-3.2.1-2-taimen.img
When in TWRP (hopefully), I suggest trying to do what I advised before -- try either Magisk installer to repatch the boot and dtbo image, or Magisk Uninstaller to attempt to replace your boot and dtbo to stock.
*NOTE: Of course, this is assuming you are running Microsoft Windows (if not, you will need to input .\ as @naiku suggested) and also the whole "device is corrupt" is due to "funky" boot image issues. If not, I/we can guide you to flashing the Full Factory back onto the phone (hopefully without losing data and settings)...
Good luck and hope this helps...
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Pleased to be editing this comment; managed to get it working following your step by step. Think i'm going to stay away from rooting something this expensive in the future! Thanks so much!

Jameswebb97 said:
Pleased to be editing this comment; managed to get it working following your step by step. Think i'm going to stay away from rooting something this expensive in the future! Thanks so much!
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I wouldn't go that far with staying away. When I come across people IRL that want to start doing this stuff I always tell them to read the instructions, step through them, read the instructions again, ask questions (as you did here) BEFORE you get started, read the instructions again, and only when you're confident start messing with your device. This is a fun, and at times stressful, hobby. It's great when everything goes according to plan but it's an omg omg omg omg omg omg moment when you mess something up.
Start with baby steps. The straight upgrade to P is fairly simple provided your device is unlocked. Get that working & you'll be set. I have root on my DP3 & the only thing I've done so far is delete some apps from system that I know I don't want/need. If your main goal is to just enjoy your phone, test out Android P, and maybe go back... root isn't needed. Once everything is squared away & you're running for a day or so you can always fastboot to recovery, make a backup, and then try to add root. I hope you don't shy away & get deeper into the hobby. It truly starts to get fun when you begin to understand more of what is going on.

Jameswebb97 said:
Pleased to be editing this comment; managed to get it working following your step by step. Think i'm going to stay away from rooting something this expensive in the future! Thanks so much!
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Hey I'm so glad you got it working! Leave me a "Thanks!" would make it up to me ... I'm always happy to help out and get things figured out...yet I don't get the satisfaction of knowing if it does end up helping a lot of the time because a good number don't come back with their experience...so thanks for that! Glad you got it going...
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I wouldn't go that far with staying away. When I come across people IRL that want to start doing this stuff I always tell them to read the instructions, step through them, read the instructions again, ask questions (as you did here) BEFORE you get started, read the instructions again, and only when you're confident start messing with your device. This is a fun, and at times stressful, hobby. It's great when everything goes according to plan but it's an omg omg omg omg omg omg moment when you mess something up.
Start with baby steps. The straight upgrade to P is fairly simple provided your device is unlocked. Get that working & you'll be set. I have root on my DP3 & the only thing I've done so far is delete some apps from system that I know I don't want/need. If your main goal is to just enjoy your phone, test out Android P, and maybe go back... root isn't needed. Once everything is squared away & you're running for a day or so you can always fastboot to recovery, make a backup, and then try to add root. I hope you don't shy away & get deeper into the hobby. It truly starts to get fun when you begin to understand more of what is going on.
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And it's as @EvilDobe means.....
I remember back in the days of the Motorola Droids (OG Droid1, Droid 3, & Droid 4) where you could really mess things up and come out with a big ol' "brick" "paperweight" as there were many instances where you could not come back from (i.e. updating to a certain point, then attempting to downgrade when Google/Motorola/Verizon put blocks that breaks it). But this isn't the case these days. @Jameswebb97, at least with the Pixel 2's, Oreo and/or P(Android OS 9), it's actually more difficult than easy to get that too far gone. The only reason why I can help so many troubleshooting their issues is because I, myself, have wrecked my current device in some serious ways! So I can relate and have experience in helping in the same situations. I've gotten it to where it says "device is corrupt," (which isn't all that uncommon), BUT with the added desperate troubleshooting where I had to wipe/erase, changing partition types, format several partitions, even go about "resizing" the partition to match the "target extraction size" of the Full Factory flash, and even as far as learning to manually flash the various system partitions and that there are two (system_a & system_b) but, in Google's infinite wisdom(?), one flashes to system_a and the other to system_other!!! And I haven't even started on reading others' issues when going after the Slot A and Slot B complications -- I didn't even attempt to touch this in that troubleshooting story.
My point is: I think I've broken my device farther than most people and got it so close to the brink, and yet I was able to bring it back and am still using that same device today (most people would usually, at that point, go and get a RMA replacement). Honestly, as long as you have access to Bootloader Mode (which Google, in their infinite wisdom, seems to have placed it in the main board memory or separate memory rather than storage as to make it always accessible which makes it hard to "lose"), you have a really good (seemingly perfect) "safety net" in which you can always flash back to a working, stock state -- which is why it's the best policy to just make good backups before experimenting so, if anything, you get back to this state and restore all your data. I'm not trying to convince you to root or to try custom ROMs or anything -- even though there are many great reasons and capabilities of rooting -- I am simply appealingl to your sense of curiosity and reassure you so you aren't held back and you don't restrict and limit yourself if you don't want to, but are to fearful to experiment.
I hope you don't take this post as "lecturing" or anything, just some thoughts I hope you consider...
Glad it worked out in the end for you!