Hi -
I'm considering the possibility of installing an App2SD rom (getting really frustrated with the lack of space on the desire). What I'm wanting to know is that:
a) If I do a titanium backup of my non app2sd rom, and install an app2sd rom, and do a full restore (including system settings?), would I be able to have all my apps and data as they were on the new rom?
b) Does having the apps and data on the sd card slow the application down (is memory card access now slower than internal access?)
c) How easy, and pain free is is to install an app2sd rom? (looking at leedroid). My phone is already rooted.
d) Is there anything anything else worth noting before I go ahead with it e.g. poor battery life, likelihood of bricking phone etc.
Many thanks!
stats101 said:
Hi -
I'm considering the possibility of installing an App2SD rom (getting really frustrated with the lack of space on the desire). What I'm wanting to know is that:
a) If I do a titanium backup of my non app2sd rom, and install an app2sd rom, and do a full restore (including system settings?), would I be able to have all my apps and data as they were on the new rom?
b) Does having the apps and data on the sd card slow the application down (is memory card access now slower than internal access?)
c) How easy, and pain free is is to install an app2sd rom? (looking at leedroid). My phone is already rooted.
d) Is there anything anything else worth noting before I go ahead with it e.g. poor battery life, likelihood of bricking phone etc.
Many thanks!
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a) No. Restoring system apps will cause FCs to say the least. Only restore user apps. Setting stuff can easily be recovered and not worth the hassle.
b) Yes. It will be slower. NAND is much faster than SD will ever be. A workaround is never to install system apps, widgets, keyboards and the like to the SD card.
c) Maybe about 2 or 3 more reboots and about 2 hours of your time, likely to be less
d) Since you've rooted, the most dangerous part is already over. I'm amazed that you are not on a custom ROM already.
Have a problem with backup but don't want to open a new thread.
I have backed up SMS and call log with SMS backup+ on to my gmail.
Did a full wipe and when i tried to restore it restored only my SMS, call log is still on my gmail and i can see it. How can i restore that on my phone?
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I decided to try my first custom ROM... (installing virtous) and have a few questions/issues:
1) I started with a Nandroid backup.
2) I did a full titanium backup
3) I used ROM manager to install Virtous (did a full system swipe)...
Ok.. here is where I am having my issues
After the install, I went back to the marketplace and installed titanium backup.
What option should I restore? I would like to get all the widgets and data restored. I tried restore all apps+system data but I am wondering if that is reinstalling the bloatware that virtous removed. If so, what are the correct options in Titanium backup I should use?
Next, I tried to reinstall everything but I got that dreaded low on storage and then out of storage space error. My phone has lots of storage both internal and on the SD card - so the restore (I am guessing) failed at some indeterminate point. Most of my widgets were not loading properly (beautiful widget, pure calendar, multi-icon etc) after the attempted restore.
Regardless, even if I clean-up the widgets, the low memory message persisted so I was left with no choice but to revert to my previous nandroid backup .
So... how do you install a custom rom and easily reestablish your previous state/settings without getting the low/ out of storage warning?
Also, one of my goals is to get a deodexed rom so I can install custom themes (e.g., battery mods, etc). Can I just flash the deodexed stock rom over my current rom (I did not understand deodexed when I first upgraded to froyo) without having to do a swipe? Will I run into any issues?
Thanks
I tried again with less apps/ data and still have no luck.
I did a restore all apps and system data from titanium, got a low storage than out of storage error (the phone has over 60% of its storage available so I know I am nowhere near close to actually using all the storage).
When titanium completed, most apps forced close (gmail, rom manager, etc) so I assume the storage error is impacting the restore.
Back to my nandroid backup again.
If I am running stock Froyo, can I just flash a new sense based froyo without wiping? (trying to find a way to experiment and really want to get a deodexed rom installed)
When new ROM is flashed, in TB, try reinstalling only user apps, not system apps.
Why?
The new ROM you flash and the ROM you are coming from should both have system apps already in them, so why reinstall system apps from the old ROM that most likely exist in the new ROM?
But how do I reestablish the previous settings? Or do I have to reconfigure all my accounts, etc each time I install a new rom.
Thanks
Me too. How to correct?
uncommon 1.1 on my phone is doing same thing. 1.0 had no problem.
Just a theory as I haven't tried to install another ROM...
I noticed the touchdown data file on my phone was quite big (>70mb) - it appears that when touchdown's data file gets very large, the message appears more often (looks likes there is a bug in Android with large data-sets). I cleared touchdown's data and resynced which shrunk the data file to ~12mb. I reinstalled all the apps I removed to try and eliminate the memory error and so far have been running smoothly.
When I have some time, I am going to try another ROM and see if I can restore without any storage issues. I still am curious how everyone resets their settings from ROM to ROM (or do they manually configure everything each time)
After poking around in astro file manager, contacts(cross-linked mess), and uninstalling some rarely used programs all to no avail......
I fixed my "low on program memory" notification by emptying my deleted items in the mail app- a hotmail account that is rarely used.
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But how do I reestablish the previous settings? Or do I have to reconfigure all my accounts, etc each time I install a new rom.
Thanks
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To be on the safe side, just reinstall only apps, with or without data. There is no real point in wiping days, and yet reinstalling system apps and data. Kind of defeats the purpose. And yes, manually add accounts. Takes more time, but minimizes conflicts. Shouldn't take more than 30 minutes, which is a small price to pay to eliminate potential headaches.
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I've run into this as well. In fact it was the original reason I decided to move forward with rooting my phone since I had to wipe it anyway. Has anyone looked into what program monitors this and flags the error? Is memory not being reported correctly, or is there a tolerance that maybe we need to tweak in the code somewhere?
This is my first root and may have missed some steps. I`m up and running sort of....I used Unrevoked, did Wipe (except Sd-ext wipe for some reason) and running right now Redux. I did not do a back up because I am dumb and was going so fast. My question is: Are my contacts and old text messages somewhere on the phone or are they gone? Also how do I get access to my SD card? All the apps that were on the phone originally are not showing under Applications etc.
TYIA and I have tried to do searched but cannot seem to get a definitive answer.
Clipse79 said:
This is my first root and may have missed some steps. I`m up and running sort of....I used Unrevoked, did Wipe (except Sd-ext wipe for some reason) and running right now Redux. I did not do a back up because I am dumb and was going so fast. My question is: Are my contacts and old text messages somewhere on the phone or are they gone? Also how do I get access to my SD card? All the apps that were on the phone originally are not showing under Applications etc.
TYIA and I have tried to do searched but cannot seem to get a definitive answer.
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Usually installing a new ROM requires a full wipe which as its name states erases all data on you phone. However: if you are lucky you've done a backup of your contacts (look for a vcf file). If you can't find any then you've lost them.
When I'm flashing a new ROM I backup my contacts using the "Export to SD" feature in the people app. I usually leave it on the FAT partition of the SD and, just to be safe in case I have to reformat my SD, I make a back-up copy on my pc.
For SMS I use goSms app from market which allows me to backup my messages. Probably there are other alternatives. I go through the same procedure of backing the file on my PC although it is stored on the FAT partition of the SD which souldn't be affected by new ROM installs.
Robocik's ROM allows you to copy your apps into a folder on the SD and when you install his ROM it will automatically put them in the right place so they will be available when you need them.
hey ..i have htc desire S-off... and rcmixhd rom.... i just wanted to know how to back up all the components of my phone..i.e including contenst of the sd card as well as phone memory..
like apps ..contacts..etc..to my computer...and when i install new rom how to restore this stuff..please help..
Titanium backup for everything on the phone, sd card is just drag and drop.
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SMS backup is a wise choice for backing up your messages, if you change between old sense/sense 2.1/ AOSP ROMs
hi,
i think the what you need is a nandroid backup(in recovery mode), it saves the whole phone(like a snapshot)
but i would do this just once in a while, because these are quite big(300-700mb)
i would suggest you do on a regular base other backups, with apps
like TitatniumBackup can save your user apps + data, so this will not be lost
but system data(wifi spots, contacts, bookmarks, ...) could also be backuped but with care!
i can tell you how i do save all my data.
1. i do a complete nandroidbackup (if you want 2 go back from where you came)
2. a Titanium´Backup (sometimes system data could also be restored)
3. i use MyPhoneExplorer to backup my Contacts
4. MyBackup Root, to save my Sms/mms and other stuff (exept from Contact wich are put in the Google Account, i like it on the telephone memory)
Sounds a little bit much, but most of the apps have advantages at some point but also flaws on a other point!
ps.: yep i know most of them could be stored in the cloud but i like it lokal
pps.: the data is in folders on the sd(nandroid=/clockworkmod , titanium=titanium..., mybackup= /rerware)
Dr. div11 said:
hey ..i have htc desire S-off... and rcmixhd rom.... i just wanted to know how to back up all the components of my phone..i.e including contenst of the sd card as well as phone memory..
like apps ..contacts..etc..to my computer...and when i install new rom how to restore this stuff..please help..
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1.) Make nandroid-backup via recovery
2.) Use Titanium Backup for the apps and system-data (menu>batch>backup all apps + system-data), SMS Backup&Restore for the SMS. After this copy all data on sd-card to your computer.
3.) Do a full wipe and flash new rom
4.) Restore apps and systemdata with titanium backup (maybe you need to download it first); (DO NOT RESTORE SYSTEM-DATA IF FLASHING A NON-SENSE-ROM WHEN COMING FROM A SENSE-ROM OR REVERSE; this can cause heavy system- problems) and SMS with SMS Backup&Restore
5.) Reboot system
6.) Have fun
I've used Titanium to do my back-ups on my old Galaxy Vibrant, so I have a general understanding of how it works. My question is this though, when I did back-ups in the past, they were saved to the SD card (I think), but the GNEX doesn't have an SD card. So if I do a back-up, won't the back-up I just made get erased when I wipe data before flashing a new ROM? Also, what about my pictures, will they get erased? I have hundreds of pictures on my phone, maybe even over 1000 TBH. I don't want to have to reload everything again. And last, does Titanium back-up your progress in games? I seem to remember that it does, but I don't remember for sure.
Any guides out there for doing Titanium back-ups on the Gnex? Why didn't those silly people just give us an sd card slot
ok even though it does not have a physically removable sd card it still does not get wiped when flashing roms and wiping the data cache partition. only if you do a factory data reset from the phone's settings. I've never needed to do that so dont worry i have 1000's of pics too. I'd back em up just in case on your laptop for safe measure though anyways. also when you backup th apps it does not save game progress unless you backup the app's data. then it should save preferences and progress and all that good stuff. Thank me if it helps!!
Ok, another thing I just thought of. After I flash the new ROM and enter my email, the phone is going to start automatically downloading all my apps, obviously I don't want to do that since I'm going to restore them with Titanium. How do I turn off the auto-downloading of apps?
After I flash the new ROM and enter my email, the phone is going to start automatically downloading all my apps
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No it won't. It only restores your apps if you decide to not turn off the "restore my apps and settings" option. It's on by default, simply turn it off after you've entered your Gmail account. It's the next or the second screen after you logged into your Gmail account.
Ok, now my phone doesn't want to mount when I connect it to my computer. It charges, it just won't mount. ftw....
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Ok, now my phone doesn't want to mount when I connect it to my computer. It charges, it just won't mount. ftw....
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Not sure about the mount issue but I will tell you to definitely leave the auto restore on and let the market automatically download your apps after a wipe. You want to do this because it will automatically install the apps where as titanium will take forever and you have to manually tap install. Then once the apps are installed go to titanium and just backup so data only which is you game progress and preferences and such. I found this out the hard way lol
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In my experience, the restore and wipe cache (maybe wipe data too) only clean the system/ or /cache, and leave the sdcard/ untouched. So the data backup by Titanium back-ups should work rightly.
BTW, I have some problem about using Titanium back-ups. If I always want to keep the newest backup of both application and system data, are the any useful script?
Although there's a script could backup the new application that installed after last backup, but what about the new system app/data? Because sometimes I may have change ROM and it will add some new system app/data.
So far, I use the script that backup all the system/application data. But I wonder it may leave duplicate backup to some app, that's the condition I want to avoid.
Any idea?
Hey guys,
i used good old InsertCoin ROM most time, but i'd like to use new Sense 3.5 now.
I tried Runnymedia AIO and Runny ROM. Both perform ok at first, but then i restore my apps using Titanium Backup. Now the device performs extremely slow after i use the market (play store).
Increasing CPU Frequency doesn't help either. How can i find out, whats slowing my device down?
Using STOCK HBOOT with 1GB Ext4 Partition.
Radio: 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27
Instead of Restoring apps, why not try re-downloading them from the Play Store. My Phone is super smooth. No problems yet.
It seems that you're right. App-restoring might be the problem. I removed most apps which i restored with TB and now its smooth again.
But of course i want to keep my App-Data (/data) from my InsertCoin installation.
I'll try installing BackupEverything on IC, backup my apps with this app and then restore to Runny ROM.
Any idea why that might be?
I also have a slow RunnyMod after restoring via Titanium to restore my apps, but most of them have no other way to backup...
Slow, after restoring with BackupEverything too. And BE doesn't even backup /data/data
Somebody knows a tool which actually works?
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Any idea why that might be?
I also have a slow RunnyMod after restoring via Titanium to restore my apps, but most of them have no other way to backup...
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I backup my apps using AppMonster PRO. Have done since I got my Desire 2 years ago.
It allows for plain name backup of .apks and using its newer backup method, allows for batch reinstall of apps. Also can specifiy how many versions of an apk to keep / as2d notification and automatic backup of .apk when installed.
Doesn't do cache backup and user customizations that can be carried over from one install to another in way that Titanium Backup does, but works fab for me, I just reinstall wot I want!
In this way I dont get any mess up's when switching roms were I restore a TB backup and it puts the data in the wrong place.
I always backup and restore with ic_backup_apps.zip and ic_restore_apps.zip. I can't find the original links (there was a link in the Insertcoin thread) and I don't know if I'm allowed to post mirrors here. But a google search should help you get those files I think.
ic_backup_apps stores all the apks in a .tar file on you sd card and also wipes your system, be careful
ic_restore_apps unpacks this file and puts them back
To install another ROM I always do the following:
backup apps with titanium (only user apps+data, no system data)
backup sms, call log and "some" system settings with Mybackup root
power off, reboot in recovery
a nandroid backup is advised, you should do this regulary anyway imo
flash ic_backup_apps.zip as you would flash any other zip. But be careful, this also wipes everything
full wipe (data+system+boot+sd-ext+cache+dalvik) + battery stats, so everything except sd card
flash the rom.zip
flash ic_restore_apps.zip
power off, (remove sim, to prevent incoming sms while restoring), reboot
switch off automatic backup (it's not needed now)
restore with mybackup root
restore (some) user app data with titanium
I've wiped and flashed multiple sense 3.5 ROMs this way and never had problems with slowness or FCs.
Your SD card could also be a bottleneck.