2 questions about HTC Desire Z...... - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, I'm currently using a Nokia N900 and thinking of changing to the Desire Z.
I was wondering how's the battery life on it? I've heard good things about it, that it lasts for quite a decent amount of time. But can someone give me a figure? I'm looking for just normal use such as txting and making phone calls, and occasionally WIFI browsing. I don't use my phone for gaming or music, just running typical apps and all those stuff i mentioned above.
The 2nd is, how are the custom roms development and support for this phone?? I searched around and couldn't find much, or at least decent ones. I'm looking for ROMS that are as good as the equivalent of the Energy ROM for the Windows Mobile devices. Before I stopped using my HTC Touch Pro, I used to be very active on this forum and can find tons of custom ROMS for Windows Mobile devices easily, but i'm not sure about Android though......there doesn't seem to be much.
Oh and it seems there are very little differences between G2 and Desire Z. Both are under the "HTC Vision" category and yes I've already read the topics and did the search on this. I was wondering which one is better overall in terms of performance? It seems the G2 has more ROM or something (can't remember), like 4GB as oppose to Desire Z's 1.5GB....but i'm not sure how that'll affect the performance.
I don't care about the FM radio either so maybe i should go for a G2 instead?

It pretty much comes down to sense or stock android. the roms are generally compatible with both phones.
the battery life is actually much better than i expected coming from a nexus one, htc desire and htc hd2. you should have no problem lasting the day.

I went for the DZ and am very happy with it, the battery life is excellent even with quite a few widgets, a constant live wallpaper running too.
I do need to charge it every night but at work it's using wifi all the time even when asleep and so far i've sent about 20 txt's today, and spoken on the phone for an hour and it's been off it's charger for 8 hours and i'm on 75% battery left.
Reason i haven't put any other ROM's on it yet is because i don't see a need for it yet, my G1 got to CM6 as i wanted stuff that was above android 1.6 but currently the DZ on 2.2 with Sense is working well for me. If i put another Rom on i'd lose my Locations app which i use a lot, free GPS with maps of the world! And some other great Sense things like the selecting text and copy/paste feature which gingerbread mimics. the free tracking and online backup to HTCSense.com too is very useful.
I had 1gb on internal left after the OS is installed and i've still got about 890mb left of that, it shipped with an 8gb microSD card and that's only got about 2gb of stuff on it (locations maps, some music and app backup). Since 2.2 does install apps to the SD card the extra space isn't that vital.
quadrant scores are 1550 - 1580 depending on what it feels like doing lol, which is literally only a few digits below the G2 stock so Sense is hardly using any brain power.
Lag - what lag? i've yet to see it or wait for anything on the phone - it flies.
Scenes, Skins and HTC Hub are just a few more things that customise the device for new users, i'm a veteran but i like what they've done and it makes my friend who just got the Desire HD (and she's an android virgin) so happy and easy for her to use it since Android gets critized for being to hard to use...?! I don't see it
Hope this helps

Crytos said:
I went for the DZ and am very happy with it, the battery life is excellent even with quite a few widgets, a constant live wallpaper running too.
I do need to charge it every night but at work it's using wifi all the time even when asleep and so far i've sent about 20 txt's today, and spoken on the phone for an hour and it's been off it's charger for 8 hours and i'm on 75% battery left.
Reason i haven't put any other ROM's on it yet is because i don't see a need for it yet, my G1 got to CM6 as i wanted stuff that was above android 1.6 but currently the DZ on 2.2 with Sense is working well for me. If i put another Rom on i'd lose my Locations app which i use a lot, free GPS with maps of the world! And some other great Sense things like the selecting text and copy/paste feature which gingerbread mimics. the free tracking and online backup to HTCSense.com too is very useful.
I had 1gb on internal left after the OS is installed and i've still got about 890mb left of that, it shipped with an 8gb microSD card and that's only got about 2gb of stuff on it (locations maps, some music and app backup). Since 2.2 does install apps to the SD card the extra space isn't that vital.
quadrant scores are 1550 - 1580 depending on what it feels like doing lol, which is literally only a few digits below the G2 stock so Sense is hardly using any brain power.
Lag - what lag? i've yet to see it or wait for anything on the phone - it flies.
Scenes, Skins and HTC Hub are just a few more things that customise the device for new users, i'm a veteran but i like what they've done and it makes my friend who just got the Desire HD (and she's an android virgin) so happy and easy for her to use it since Android gets critized for being to hard to use...?! I don't see it
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thanks for the reply and I see you're a fellow New Zealander!
Did you buy it on Trademe? How much did you pay for? There's one on Trademe for $800 but that's a G2, otherwise the Desire Z is $849 including free shipping and free accessories.......i'm trying to hold it off until it goes down to $700 though
anyway, i was looking for statistics like how long it lasts after a full charge?? My Nokia N900 on standby lasts about 5 days, if i use it for heavy txt or internet browsing (using wifi) then I can use it for maybe 2 days, until the battery drains completely.
If the Desire Z only lasts 2 days, that's still pretty crap to me.........i'm looking for phones that don't drain as crazy coz that's one of the thing that pisses me off

I came from the Touch Pro 2 with EnergyROM too. But the big difference for me there is that the stock TP2 ROM is absolute garbage, and EnergyROM made it much better. So a custom ROM was much more necessary with WinMo.
I find that my stock DZ ROM is fantastic, it is really smooth and fast. I'm sure I could get even more cool stuff if I upgraded to a custom ROM but right now I'm staying with stock. Cyanogen seems to be by far the most popular custom ROM for the Vision (G2/DZ), though it doesn't include the HTC Sense features that the DZ stock ROM has (stock G2 doesn't have Sense).
By the way, the memory is identical on the G2 and DZ, they're the same phone just with different radio bands. T-Mobile advertised it as having 4 GB but in fact, just like the DZ, the internal storage is setup in the factory to only present 2.2 GB to the ROM (full explanation in the Wiki as to why this is). So performance is identical on the G2/DZ - same CPU, same memory, etc, etc.

I have a G2 and I am a heavy user. On average, I download 1-5 things a day, be it market or otherwise, 150-200 text messages, less than 20 minutes talk time, constant running live wall paper, facebook widget, foursquare widget, weather and time beautiful widget, battery widget, music widget, feedr news widget (all these widgets get used daily), plus a Yahoo! mail app I use daily and I can almost always make it through a full day of use. There are those days when I send more texts or download more things or browse the web more often if there's a lot of good articles on feedr and I might need to charge before the end of the day, but thus far it has the best battery life of any Android phone I've ever used. I typically wake up around 2 or 3pm and go to bed around 6 or 7am, so 13-14 hours of use and It's usually at about 10% when I plug it in.
I do not run any task killers, stock ROM, unrooted. I charge every night and start every day with 100% charged. This is, by far, the best phone I've ever owned period. It's highly recommended. Hope this helps.

Its reasonable.
If you use Bluetooth (music stream) extensively & connect to a WIFI network, you might be in the yellow fairly quick.
Its NO BlackBerry (battery wise), but then again you get so many options and features that it blows the BB out of the water.

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Battery Life Vs Iphone 4

Ok hold on before you fly off the handle - I'm trying to ask a very specific question, to probably a fairly small sub group of people.
I own an iPhone 4 and a Desire. I , for the most part got the iPhone 4 because of the fairly bad battery life on the Desire - not to mention that I had just come out of contract with my ATT account so I could get a discounted iPhone toy.
Are there any others out there that have had experience with both of these devices and if so have you been even close to being sucessful at obtaining similar battery life? Which ROM and / or what SetCPU settings (I'm not entirely convinced how much difference that makes for me)??
It is now 5:27 pm and I have tried my best to have both devices used for the same things. I alternaated phone calls. I pushed emails to both devices nd I even tried to duplicate SMS's as much as psossible with help of a third person.
The iPhone has 80% left and the Desire has 60%. If anything though I used the iPhone more because it has my primary SIM card in it.
Thanks
JC
Not really sure this is a development thing but for me cyanogen 6 latest nightly has nearly double the battery life of the stock t mobile 2.1 rom that I had before.
maybe it's your battery stats.....wipe the nattery info and recalibrate your desire....you might have a fix then
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Not really sure this is a development thing but for me cyanogen 6 latest nightly has nearly double the battery life of the stock t mobile 2.1 rom that I had before.
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Thanks - I haven't tried Cyanogen but i've tried enough of the others over some months that I knew that answer had to be a particular ROM OR the possibilty that it just wasn't going to happen.
Thanks
i use pays 1.9 rom and the battery is holding the charge much longer, i didn't charge the phone for 3 days and today it had 50 % before i started to play need for speed shift . and the iphone doesn't use as much charge as the desire because it has a crapy old lcd display and no REAL multitasing....
I got roufianos v6 and i get a day of heavy duty work on desire, day and a half with low medium usage and im happy with the battery. (wifi on all the time, auto sinc on an hour of fb, weather, xda rss news, nimbuzz chat, gtalk chat, couple of calls and sms, homerun battle 3d, internet checking fb and other forums, xda app couple times a day and thats pretty much most of the duty) i couldnt last 2 days with nokia x6 with 1/10th of that usage.
Besides, iphone doesnt have this insanely beautiful amoled bright colors do its normal its battery lasts longer. Its also got a diferent system and diferent multitasking codes. Desire runs some proceses in the background for certain period of time so it loads diferent apps u just used faster.
Besides, charge the phone over night and use it over day and u wont notice the battery life is bad at all. U cant enjoy iphone as much as u can enjoy desire if u know what each individual device is capable of.
If u ask me, u can give me an ever lasting iphone or a day lasting batteri on desire and id pick desire. As a matter of fact id pick desire over any combination about phones u make
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OH oh - Sorry I didn't mean to get the iPhone war going. I have jsut noticed that the battery life has somehow greatly improved with the iphone 4 vs the 3 and I had previously not been making it even through the day with my Desire.
Probably wouldn't have even been looking at the Iphone if it hadn't been for the battery issue with the Desire.
Again I was just hoping some others had been able to personally experience the battery thing so I could get a better idea of whether to go back to the drawing (ROM) board or to give up.
Thanks all
I have had both phones & iPhone has hands down better screen (& you can see it in direct sunlight).
Battery life was a lot longer on iPhone, but I think that's just because I played with it less, got rid of it & kept my Desire in the end.
Currently using modaco's r8 with A2SD+, seems to make a big difference to battery life by having dalvik-cache & apps on the SD card. My battery is now a horizontal line in standby with constant sync etc (something I could never get before).
Can anyone else confirm better battery with A2SD+ or is it just me?
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I have had both phones & iPhone has hands down better screen (& you can see it in direct sunlight).
Battery life was a lot longer on iPhone, but I think that's just because I played with it less, got rid of it & kept my Desire in the end.
Currently using modaco's r8 with A2SD+, seems to make a big difference to battery life by having dalvik-cache & apps on the SD card. My battery is now a horizontal line in standby with constant sync etc (something I could never get before).
Can anyone else confirm better battery with A2SD+ or is it just me?
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I will be also interrested to know if A2SD+ improves battery...

NEW EVO User

I finally moved from a Hero to the EVO....yay me...stop clapping, all of you, pleez...thank you! Anyway, I rooted and am looking for the stable CM6 that has everything working. can someone provide a link if its available? I only have a few minutes a day to research the forums, other wise I'd keep hunting. If no CM6 is stable with everything working, what Sense Roms are out there with a stable kernel that improves battery life. Im on the road a lot and battery life is important to me, since I am in the air at least 9 hours out of the day and when I land Id like to have some battery left. I have noticed already that this thing drains terribly even in idle state. I started the day @ 6:30 on a 100%. I didnt call anyone and had maybe 8 e-mails come thru and sent a few texts. checked FB for two minutes and then left it alone. it is now 11AM and im @ 28% battery life...no task killers running. only auto killer. i have a ppl widget and calendar widget and of course the HTC Clock and the cubed widget. i am using 3 screens only. What SENSE ROM or any ROM has a kernel that enhances the battery life with a tweak? or is there a kernel that works with the stock ROM, that provides decent battery life?
Thansk for your help.
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I finally moved from a Hero to the EVO....yay me...stop clapping, all of you, pleez...thank you! Anyway, I rooted and am looking for the stable CM6 that has everything working. can someone provide a link if its available? I only have a few minutes a day to research the forums, other wise I'd keep hunting. If no CM6 is stable with everything working, what Sense Roms are out there with a stable kernel that improves battery life. Im on the road a lot and battery life is important to me, since I am in the air at least 9 hours out of the day and when I land Id like to have some battery left. I have noticed already that this thing drains terribly even in idle state. I started the day @ 6:30 on a 100%. I didnt call anyone and had maybe 8 e-mails come thru and sent a few texts. checked FB for two minutes and then left it alone. it is now 11AM and im @ 28% battery life...no task killers running. only auto killer. i have a ppl widget and calendar widget and of course the HTC Clock and the cubed widget. i am using 3 screens only. What SENSE ROM or any ROM has a kernel that enhances the battery life with a tweak? or is there a kernel that works with the stock ROM, that provides decent battery life?
Thansk for your help.
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CM6 and all other AOSP roms still do not have 4G + HDMI + Radio working.
If you don't care about those, go ahead.
As for battery life, KingxKlick CFS works well for me.
These two tips may help you though:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990&highlight=battery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701567&highlight=battery
They both worked for me.
If you want absolute certainty that your battery will last forever and a day, shell out about $60 for Seidio's extended 3500 mah battery.
It's a bit pricey and adds a bit of bulk to your Evo's back (it requires an included extra battery cover), but it's more than usable.
As for the Sense ROMs, they all do pretty much similar battery tweaks, so it's more about what you like about them in terms of functionality, design, etc.
Hope that helps.
I'm not an expert in CM6, but I can tell you that if 4G is big for you, then CM6 is a no-go as 4G does not work. Also, the FM radio and HDMI-out do not function, but it has a great Bluetooth stack from what I hear. Here's a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735596
The kernel based on the latest OTA update is the one with best battery life from what I've been reading. Also, it has the FPS unlocked already, so that is cool. If you don't care about multi-touch and overclocking the CPU, then you may one to try one of the many Sense roms out there and see how they treat you. However, in your case, you best bet is to get a set of generic batteries and a extra charger on eBay for about $10 shipped and use that for your travels. I took my daughter to Disney World this past weekend, and I took both extra batteries with me so I can watch the Red Zone channel and not miss football. I burned through the OEM battery, and almost through an entire generic one, but I watched TV for hours and used the phone to take pics, videos, check emails, calls/texts, and even a few kids games to entertain my kid during the lines. I have no complaints with my set-up.
XD so the newest CM Nightly (116 i think?) has FM radio now.
So I guess they're moving forward... but HDMI and 4G are what most people are waiting for. lol

Best ROM for battery?

What is the best ROM for battery usuage?
Every sense with leedroid kernel...
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i use revolution hd 3.1 and its great for performance and battery
I will second that Revolution HD 3.1 makes such a difference to battery life, its much smoother than stock too. Tried CM7 and CoreDroid but they were both a little too battery hungry to be useful.
ROM, Kernel and Radio
I have used LeeDroid HD, Spike CM7 and Android Revolution HD. All with different kernels and radios.
I would think the battery drain has to do with both ROM, Kernel and Radio versions (and maybe more). So it's vital that all the components is compatible. Most ROM devs recommend both a radio and a kernel.
And of cause it depends on all the services and app installed after the flash
Anyway, to you question:
I use the new Spike CM7 build 19 and have great battery life now.
I had problems with no sleep mode on other ROM/Kernel before. (and yes I have tried various patches)
I'm using CM7 latest nightly with mad murdocks battery fix and the the most latest radio and I'm getting 3-5 mA battery drain while in standby (with constant 3g, mobile data and sync on). So I'd say all the roms are quite close to each other when it comes to battery drain nowadays and the battery drain isn't a main concern anymore while choosing between roms.
My friend and myself bought the phones on same day. He runs Revolution and I run LeeDroid. Looks like there is a small advantage with LeeDroid.
i'm using Spike CM7 build 19 flashed with mad-murdock's batfix build7 and my battery life is great
I recommend Android Revolution HD 3.2 for you!
I had 2-3 days of battery with ARHD3.1 all the time!
matt_pan said:
I recommend Android Revolution HD 3.2 for you!
I had 2-3 days of battery with ARHD3.1 all the time!
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Not using the phone much huh?!
Vispe85 said:
Not using the phone much huh?!
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Yes and No
I don't know what would be much...
But with texting all day, some calls I get this, but yeah, I immediatelly turn off the display after using my phone and have deactivated all unnessesary stuff
I also removed most of the sense stuff and don't use twitter or something
the only syncing things are mail (every hour) and google (once a day)
but yeah, 1-2 days are easy with this, but mostely 2+
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Yes and No
I don't know what would be much...
But with texting all day, some calls I get this, but yeah, I immediatelly turn off the display after using my phone and have deactivated all unnessesary stuff
I also removed most of the sense stuff and don't use twitter or something
the only syncing things are mail (every hour) and google (once a day)
but yeah, 1-2 days are easy with this, but mostely 2+
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I'm not saying that it isn't possible as you can get a week out of the device if you just let it run on standby but as soon as you switch the screen on the consumption jumps to at least around 200mA and add a little gaming, browsing etc the consumption doubles from that (not an exact figure). So what I am saying is that it's kind of false to imply that another rom has way better battery consumption if you really don't use it that much. As it has been implied in many other threads that you just can't get over a day out of the device if you actively use it. It's just maths and there is no way around it as 1230mAhs will only get you that far
It is possible to get a few days by using it as a "regular" phone, it is all really usage dependent, and therefore the times are pretty hard to compare.
I am seeing a battery improvement using Coredroid V4 over Coredroid V3.2.
Today I have given the phone light use, about 4 short phone calls, email browsing, some facebook browsing but no gaming and I am at 73% after 12 hrs from full charge.
Combination of Buzz 1.3.8.2. 1.61GHz kernel, ARHD 3.2 with sense and the recommended radio is working great for me battery- and performance-wize. Using On demand gov at 1.22 GHz with 230-460MHz screen off profile.
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I'm not saying that it isn't possible as you can get a week out of the device if you just let it run on standby but as soon as you switch the screen on the consumption jumps to at least around 200mA and add a little gaming, browsing etc the consumption doubles from that (not an exact figure). So what I am saying is that it's kind of false to imply that another rom has way better battery consumption if you really don't use it that much. As it has been implied in many other threads that you just can't get over a day out of the device if you actively use it. It's just maths and there is no way around it as 1230mAhs will only get you that far
It is possible to get a few days by using it as a "regular" phone, it is all really usage dependent, and therefore the times are pretty hard to compare.
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I did'nt say that it all depends on the ROM I use, but with my normal mobile phone lifestyle and this ROM I get those battery lifetime. It was ment as an example, because on the other hand, if I use my DHD more frequent with playing games and stuff, I don't get around the 24h with a single battery charge, but that's (like you say) ROM independet because of the big display consumption and the 1230mA battery.
I just wanted to state the ROM I use with my normal battery experience for the thread author to test out.
It all depends on the user
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Not using the phone much huh?!
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I can easily reach this with stock rom...
Syncing every hour, sometimes tweeting, txting, and sometimes looking in market, just normal use.

Considering buying the defy....

Hey guys,
Wanted to get a defy but a few things worry me. I saw a few vids on youtube and it appears the defy seems choppy or laggy while pinch to zooming on the web browser. I think the defy was on 2.1 though and maybe it was the recording camera being laggy.
For you defy users here, may I ask if the defy running on 2.2 or modded with custom firwmware is still laggy/coppy while zooming/scrolling during browsing?
How is the pinch to zoom speed compared to the iphone?
Also how is the battery life? Does the galaxy s really have twice the talk time of the defy (as stated on spec sheet 6 hours vs 12)? Is the galaxy s offer a much better web browsing experience?
Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
it really was laggy on stock 2.1, but now i use cm7, and theres absolutely no lagg, it very smooth (both in gallery and in browser). about battery life: my defy lasts about one day before having to charge it again, but im quite a heavy user (lots of talking, gaming, listening to music, surfing). you can easily get 2-3 days out of it with moderate use. as for the galaxy s, never used it more than a few minutes, so i cant tell you about the battery life, but havent noticed any difference in web browsing compared to a cm7 defy.
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it really was laggy on stock 2.1, but now i use cm7, and theres absolutely no lagg, it very smooth (both in gallery and in browser). about battery life: my defy lasts about one day before having to charge it again, but im quite a heavy user (lots of talking, gaming, listening to music, surfing). you can easily get 2-3 days out of it with moderate use. as for the galaxy s, never used it more than a few minutes, so i cant tell you about the battery life, but havent noticed any difference in web browsing compared to a cm7 defy.
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Thank you for your reply zakoo2. I think I am swaying a lot towards the defy now. As the boot loader is locked on the defy, does it mean that mods such as CM7 can never tweak the defy as much as an unlocked device?
Get it, this device is indestructible, and in finding that out, I gained the confidence to really mess around with it, and five brickings, (Yes the bootloader must be er locked Coz I seriously came close to killing the phone but even when the bootloader didn't show on screen it still worked) four service flashes and three attempts at a Cm7 install later I've finally found the firmware for me and I now own the Millennium Falcon of mobile phones
Also I'd like to think the defy must have been released with a 1Ghz chip clocked down to 800 Coz its very o/c friendly ( mines running @ 1100 but I've read reports of 12 or 13 o/cs with no probs which sounds consistent with a 1ghz, should be able to push an extra ⅓)
Battery life is now customisable, I've been playing around with it and now its on an ultra efficient profile & after 12 hours still have half a battery left which is awesome for me
Long story short I love this phone, its truly customisable in every respect & in 6 months it's taken all the **** I could possibly put it thru, kayaking trips mountain bike rides & all, and it just sneers at me in defiance, a throwback to the good old moto brick!!
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well said, brother yeah, it's very overclock-undervolt friendly, have been testing both of them, no problem for the defy
just read this article if you're interested: http://androidunderground.blogspot.com/2011/05/setvsel-overclock-and-undervolt-your.html
just an advice: don't use official firmware, it's slow and has ****ty drivers, get a modded rom (cm7, pays, miui)!
the galaxy s uses the same processor as the motorola xt720 which i happen to have. :/ and all stock roms WILL lag most of the time. tried out my friends galaxy s .... was not really impressed. and i do also have the defy. its rugged and almost life proof
Go ahead..
Gr8 mobile to have... having fun playing all HD games in the mobile..
Hi! I bought a Chinese retail defy a couple months ago, and have been a happy user ever since. It came with Froyo already installed. So far I haven't experienced the laggy pinch problem you mentioned. And as for battery life, my defy lasts about one and a half days on a single charge. Hope this helps.
thanks to all the reply guys!
It's a best seller very compact easy to use and lifeproof.
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[Q] why so little support for the LG G3 but the G S5 has so much?

I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?
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I am curious as to why there is very little dev's supporting the lg g3. The samsung on the other hand is being supported alot almost make me think i made a mistake getting the lg g3 but i do really like the phone. I guess i was spoiled before the lg because i had all htc phones and there was an unbelievable amount of support for the evos. so what do you guys think are we at the height of our support or will there be more devs picking this phone up?
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Yes, more people bought it, so there are more devs.
What exactly you want developed for G3?
Kernels? Nah, you can't jump higher than lg did. It's already optimised. You can, of course, add some GCC flags, change toolchain, etc etc etc... For a marginal improvement, at best. Well, you can add undervolting, some modules (ntfs, gamepads, etc), advanced sound control... What else?..
Roms? Well, developing "only for G3!" roms isn't the best idea. Besides, some popular AOSP roms are already ported to g3, ones that haven't been ported don't even have stable 5.0 builds yet. Modding stock rom is almost impossible right now, apktool doesn't fully support neither 5.0, neither lg's special apk's (two apk's with id of 127 sharing resources? LG-way, lol.), so good custom roms aren't even possible yet.
And no, we won't get more support. If you want tons of support - buy Samsung.
I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!
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I didnt get that too comming from nexus 5 i was expection great dev support for G3 as i consider it the best smartphone specially compare to Lagsung devices...but most of android users see only benchmarks so they go and buy that plastic piece of awfulness....but G3 has a great support..its better to have little and good rather than have 30 same kernels like it was on N5 community...the only thing i can't get is why at least CM isn't official supported!!
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i agree with both of the posts here and to really answer the first question, there is nothing that i specifically want developed i just was kinda confused as to why the forums are not filled with roms and kernals but you made a good point about saying quality over quantity.. I do really enjoy this phone and consider it the top of the line right now but we will see......
Honestly we have a fair amount of roms at this stage and it will only get better and better but as far as kernels goes I'd wish to see some more with overclocking/undervolting/profiles features in them ..
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Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device
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Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
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nc35 said:
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Agree fully, had my g3 for just over a week. Bought it from amazon so I have a month to decide.
Phone is terrible for lag, battery usage is woeful.
Perhaps my expectations were too high.
Won't go back to Samsung. Knox has ruined that.
The Moto G Play looks fantastic but no European release.
HTC is speculated to have fantastic new models.
Think the G3 might find itself replaced in the New Year
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Been offered a straight trade for HTC one M8 might take them up on it
As a person coming from Samsung S2, S3, Note 3, I can say that Lg is doing a great job with the G2/G3 stock software! Way better than Samsung! Yes you'll find fingerprint features and some other useless bells and whistles, but LG software is solid, almost lag free, and battery life is king!
During my lifetime with Samsung, I spent most of my time cheating its software with Cyanogenmod.
So, would I be sad to not have the same amount of support on S5? Definitely no! I think what we have is valuable and I haven't felt yet that I need to run away to CM11/12.
manemzjum said:
Ive had the phone for a month or so now and while the design specs etc are top notch
The performance is not
I find it to be slow and laggy especially the stock messaging app (i know i can use an alternative)
I have the 16gb version and it always seems to be using 88-90% ram at all times with very minimal apps in use
Cant see it being the fact i have the 2gb ram version as previous phones with 2gb ram have performed much better.
Considering getting rid for anther device
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I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
I know some have stated they see lag in the UI such as when they open a drawer, or swipe between screens and such. I guess I've never noticed that before, so maybe they come from a different phone that responded better in their eyes. Things that can help are possibly reducing the animation, but a possible issue could be the screen size. This phone packs a lot more pixels in it than the S5, so I could see how rendering on a screen with a larger pixel density could cause this. However, for me, I don't really notice it, and even if it is there, it must not be a huge amount or else I'd notice it.
As for battery life, I don't know what people are expecting. I get at least a days (24 hours) worth. Now, granted I'm running Greenify which has helped me on other phones, so I'm sure that has a hand in it. However, there was a time I wasn't running Greenify at first with this phone and I remember having the phone charged at 100% when I went to bed, took it off the charger, left it on (I used it as an alarm clock plus as my on-call phone) and when I woke up 6+ hours later, it was STILL at 100%. Adding Greenify has helped to prevent apps from wake locking, but that's not the phone's fault. That's how some apps are written and that in and of itself can cause battery drain, but it's even worse if you out-right kill the app/service all the time.
I make and take phone calls (not all day, mind you), I send and receive texts (not every minute). I do play games (Game of War a lot) and that does drain the battery, but that's going to happen on any phone. I've listen to music on my phone, especially when driving to/from work and other errands. One time, I must have logged over 2 hours on Power Amp. I wanted to see how much it drained the battery, so I kept note of where the battery was at when I started listening and where it was when I stopped listening. Over a two hour total period of listening to music, the battery drained 2%. Not bad if you ask me.
I'm just curious because right now, with this phone, I'm getting better battery life than I did with my RAZR MAXX and my RAZR HD phones. This phone I could possibly go two days before charging. After about 36 hours, I'm at 40% battery, so I could probably go another 12 hours, but when I get to 40%, that's when I start charging back up again.
I'm not trying to dispute what people are saying. I'm just curious as to what people are expecting vs. what they are getting (or perceive as getting) from this phone. Again, most of the time, we get generic statements as "battery life sucks" or "it lags". Great. Please back that up with examples because otherwise, it's all in the eye of the beholder as to what great or sucky battery life is and/or what lag is.
Just to show, im currently at 60% after 21 hours of use. That's with phone calls, playing Game of War, texting, etc. I've attached the screenshot as well.
Just comparing to my Note 3, with stock FW but apex launcher.
Battery would last in excess of a day with quite heavy use, games Internet browsing etc. BT always on auto brightness.
Apps would also open instantly or as expected.
The G3 can has a battery life of less than 4hrs with little or no use. Consumes 18-19% in 7hrs overnight.
Finding myself charging the phone at every opportunity.
I know the Note 3 didn't come with qi, but the qi on the G3 is sooo picky. 1mm off and it doesn't charge.
Using stock launcher just pressing home, first the wallpaper loads followed by the icons then the widgets. No what would be called snappy.
And OMG does it get hot!!! For no reason at all. Not playing games, just emails and Web browsing.
So now I am left wondering if the phone is faulty.
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iBolski said:
I guess my question with those who see terrible battery life, what is it exactly you expect? I always here "terrible battery life", or "laggy". But no one backs it up with examples.
So, for those that are seeing poor battery life, answer these questions:
What is "poor" in your mind? Please provide a measurement such as you expect x amount of hours.
Exactly what are you using your phone for? Are you playing games for hours, shooting and/or viewing HD videos? Listenting to music?
After x hours of usage, how much battery is left after use (and whatever you were doing)?
For those with lag, answer these questions:
How are defining lag? Where are you seeing it and how are you perceiving it?
What apps do you have installed and how many?
What is the amount of storage you have left?
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I have both "issues".
"poor" is g3's screen-on time on 5.0 while browsing using 4g. 5-5:30 hours on latest firmwares isn't much. It was nearly 7 hours on 4.4.2... I always set brightness to 20% auto, lighting conditions are always same.
I use phone for browsing and listening to locally stored music via Bluetooth. No watching or shooting videos or playing games.
After 5 hours of 4g web browsing i am left with empty battery.
Lag:
I define lag as "animation stuttering". I am seeing it everywhere: Vkontakte, Google Play Store, while opening drawer, switching tasks, etc... It lags often, but not always.
I have 47 user apps installed, 0 additional system apps.
The only apps that keep background services or use alarms are: Aqua mail, LMT, SBH52 smart headset, Titanium backup.
There are 4 apps using GCM for push.
There are 6 accounts (Google, Shazam, Skype, VK, tutu.ru and one money app) at sync section.
And i have got 5.4 gb free out of 25 on intsd. Shouldn't slow down writing much.
A perfect setup, right? But it still lags on official firmware.
I would assume you aren't running anything like Greenify, etc. What it sounds like is there are a lot of wake locks going on. That's where Greenify comes in. I also turn off a lot of syncs as I don't need them. As you can see with my screenshot, 60% is where I was at after 21 hours so thus phone can definitely get good battery life. But, if you do a lot of stuff for hours, no phone can keep it's battery life for long. Also, with the quad hd screen this phone has, that is a big drain, but even then, I'm getting great battery life.
Another thing with going to 5.0, it's best to start fresh. Do a factory data reset and start from scratch. Going from 4.x to 5.0, especially with Lollipop, had a lot of changes underneath the hood. There are others getting better or the same battery life, but i also think it all depends on usage.
I dont know with other guys here.but i am very happy with the lg g3 forums
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I already dumped mine at a huge loss. I would say worst phone ever, but that goes to my first Android, the Moto Backflip. Thank goodness my other phone is a M8.
Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement
Only thing i'm having problems with is the fact that the ram is always overload. Used titanium to remove and freeze alot of stuff but still the ram usage is about 1.3 to 1.6gb.
This is on stock rom which is very good to me with no lag and everything an launcher needs.
Battery life from the G3 is very good, on my previous phone I was affraid to leave the house if the battery wasn't filled to 100% with the G3 i left yesterday at 62% and returned from work with still 46% (off course with no heavy use) while my data is always on.
Conclusion for me after a month of use, good value for the money.
manemzjum said:
Battery is kinda the only area i don't really have a problem with the phone its not the best but its not the worst
As someone has previously said i also came from a note 3 which in performance blows the G3 out of the water snappy and quick with no lag and instant app openings
Greenify shouldn't be something you should need to do to get rid of lag on a quad core 2.5ghz device with 2GB of ram
Out of the box the thing uses 88% ram considering the actual ROM itself is like 1.6gb just HOW is that possible if the entire contents of the ROM was loaded it into RAM should still only use 76%
Its a high end high spec device extremely poorly calibrated i have an old galaxy S3 that out performs it
To say im bitterly disappointed with this device is an understatement
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Greenify isn't for lag. It's for battery life.
Again, each to his own. I think it all depends on the perception of the user and what they expect and what they've gotten in the past from other phones.
Form me, this phone blows the RAZR MAXX and RAZR HD out of the water, which is what I came from and I get great battery life (well over 36 hours) before I have to recharge. And even then, at 40%, I probably could go another 12 hours but I choose not to.
Just last night, before I went to bed, the phone was at 100%. When I woke up 6 hours later, it went down only 2%, so I had 98% battery left. I've since used it to check email, read the news, played about 45 minutes of Game of War and did some updates via Google Play and I'm at 90%. That's after 9 hours since I last charged. I'd say those are pretty darn good stats for me.
Again, mileage may vary from user to user and what they expect. And from the responses I'm seeing, that's what I'm gathering. Some are saying the phone is great, others say it's okay, and others say it's awful coming from another phone. So, that definitely shows that it's all in the eye of the beholder.
But I appreciate what everyone has posted. It does appear that some who didn't like this phone have been able to find a phone that works great for them. I always try to state why a phone works great "for me" because that's what it is. It's not necessarily going to work great for someone else, but I also don't want to steer someone towards this phone if it doesn't meet their needs, so I try to explain why and how it works for me as I'm the user of this phone, and everyone else might use it differently.
Ciao!
I don't get why a lot of people are complaining about lag and support and s*** like that.
You are getting lag probably because:
(A) You don't know how to use your phone.
(B) You picked up the 16GB model (which only has 2GB RAM
(C) You're not rooted (seriously, who doesn't root their phones nowadays)
When I got this phone, I didn't have it rooted for a month. Everything was smooth despite having a lot of apps installed. It only became a lag machine when I installed Facebook and its Messenger app.
Yes there are lags from time to time, but do iPhones not lag? Of course they do, all phones do. I don't see all you guys' point.
A good phone doesn't need any sort of custom ROM and kernel, etc etc. Mine has always been on Stock ROM and Kernel, minimal lag. iPhone-like smoothness, I must say (but plus good multitasking. iOS multitasking is s***) In fact, when I upgraded to Android 5.0, it got even better.
I have stayed stock most of the time but I always have Greenify installed, (but battery life was still great before rooting and installing Greenify)
You people are just picky.
Not sure why people are seeing 18%+ drop in battery overnight in standby mode. Must either have a lot of synching going on or a misbehaving app or two.
Me, when I'm at home, WiFi is turned on. I have minimal syncing (apps, calendar, google+, photos).
Here is a screenshot I took this morning. When I first woke up, I was down to 98% overnight (was at 100% when I went to bed at midnight and when I woke at 6:30 am, it dropped only 2%).
At the time I took this screenshot, I had already read the news, did some updates, checked emails, and played about 30 minutes of Game of War and I was down to 94%. That seems like good battery life to me.
Of course, if you really want to improve the battery life of this phone, maybe you can go to Amazon and get this upgrade for the G3:
http://www.amazon.com/Warranty-Zero...id=1411938311&sr=8-1&keywords=zerolemon+lg+g3
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