Why isn't verizon promoting DInc? - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Every time I go to a store they dont have it on display and they do not promote it at all. They promote Droid X and Samsung Fascinate but the DInc is in the back. The DInc is the best android phone in my opinion but they say and i cant wait for the Incredible HD, the sales rep says a majority of people complain about the battery life but with the right kernnel it seems the 15000 mAh battery is fne as long as u dont over use it but i ploam o get a 2500mAh

I believe it's all about marketing. Big Red feels the X is the closest competition to the Evo. I agree, the Dinc is the best out there right now. as far as changing kernals...the vast majority of Dinc owners are not rooted and flashing a different kernal is not an option.

Look at this forum. Most people are rootedl

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For every 1 person that is rooted and on this forum there are 10 that have no clue what xda is think the term rooted pertains to trees and plants.

Its all marketing. Motorla pays more then htc so they get more. Htc will promote big again when they launch another device for verizon most likely.
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patsfan1130 said:
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For every 1 person that is rooted and on this forum there are 10 that have no clue what xda is think the term rooted pertains to trees and plants.
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Found XDA after finding something in the Market I wanted. It said for "Rooted User" and being 1 of the 10 that had no clue I Googled and found this wonderful place.
Still have a ton of learning to do but hoping to get to a level of knowledge where most XDA'rs are at.

The DInc came out at a really bad time, in my opinion
It came out a few months before th Droid X, so it seems Verizon was too busy advertising their new upcoming Moto Droid phone, plus the Droid 2 was about to come out a few months after that
Just seems they had, in their eyes, more "important" phones on the horizon.
I never saw any adds leading up to he release of the DInc, but saw tons leading up to the X
I guess they see the X and D2 as more "true" successor's to their original Droid baby

Because the phone is 9 months old and I think the shortages it had really limited its numbers.
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Yeah, I got mine in July. There was a 1-2 month wait and the X was coming out by the week's end. Blogs couldn't stop raving about it. It was going to be my last resort. I frantically scoured the net and thankfully found an Incredible at Amazon. Right look, right size, and right specs. Best phone decision ever. The life on this thing is unreal!

I was counting down the days to the Incredible release, waiting for either it or the N1 to be released first. Honestly, I only wish they released it sooner and I'm thankful that there are so many developers working on making it better.
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morph3k said:
Every time I go to a store they dont have it on display and they do not promote it at all. They promote Droid X and Samsung Fascinate but the DInc is in the back. The DInc is the best android phone in my opinion but they say and i cant wait for the Incredible HD, the sales rep says a majority of people complain about the battery life but with the right kernnel it seems the 15000 mAh battery is fne as long as u dont over use it but i ploam o get a 2500mAh
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You want to know the funniest thing? I had a HTC Eris that I LOVED. My one year old threw it in the toilet (no app for that), so I had to wait for my upgrade. Went to Wal-Mart and picked up a D1 for $50. 1 Week later, wifey and I are shopping, and I see that they now have the DInc for.... wait for it...
$28. I scrambled to find my boxes, manuals, and receipt. They have a 30 day return policy. BOOM HEADSHOT.
I am now the proud owner of a Dinc running UD 2.5 and incredikernel #21 (sp). I honestly feel like I stole it from Wal-Mart.
I feel like I have my ERIS back, except it took steroids and became a Marine.

morph3k said:
Look at this forum. Most people are rootedl
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That's because this forum is designed for people that are little more hardcore than average users.
But, still, after all of the rooting and modding that people seem to be drawn towards, I don't see much of anything that's so different than stock.
Personally, I'm not rooted and have no intentions of rooting. I see absolutely no need for it. These devices are touchy enough without messing with root access.

You gotta be ****tn me

paulmz said:
That's because this forum is designed for people that are little more hardcore than average users.
But, still, after all of the rooting and modding that people seem to be drawn towards, I don't see much of anything that's so different than stock.
Personally, I'm not rooted and have no intentions of rooting. I see absolutely no need for it. These devices are touchy enough without messing with root access.
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you wont understand until how much more potential your phone has until you actually start playing it. ive been rooted since the day i got my phone (it was the first thing i did after i activated it). was a little scared to do it at first but have no regrets. rooting this phone is as simple as plugging your phone into a computer now and opening an app with a 99.9% chance nothing will go wrong. back when i rooted my phone being scared to root it was understandable as you had to mess with multiple things to get it to work. it actually took me about 6 hours to do it (had to pop in and out the sd card at an exact time) but now its a piece of cake. you really should open yourself up to rooting which will give you access to all the work of these wonderful developers at xda. im ensuring you that you wont be disappointed. with all that said hopefully you will allow your dinc to operate at its fullest potential!

I rooted with no regrets. I specifically bought this phone in april because I knew mods/hacks would allow cisco groupname vpns. That was the only reason I was needing root, which came available months later. Some other pros were using undervolted kernels, nandroid, and minor asthetics, but big whoop.
Come january first, I doubt Dinc will be in VZ's plethora of phones. It had a long 8-9 month journey. I'll likely keep my Dinc through Q1 of 2012, when i'm eligible for a free upgrade.
The best part is, it will still be handy like an iPod Touch with SIP phone, our can be a good smart phone for my daughter (a blooming developer).

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For every 1 person that is rooted and on this forum there are 10 that have no clue what xda is think the term rooted pertains to trees and plants.
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Agreed, but I suspect the number is probably more like 100+.

I got the dInc on release day! I was on T-Mobile and using a NexusOne but had antenna issues with it so I gave it to my gf temporarily and bought me the dInc ...I dislike Motorola and looooove HTC and XDA.
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I even switched from sprint just to get the DINC>why u may ask... cause sprint didnt have a decent android phone in the 3.6 to 4 inch screen.. I would have loved the evo. but no 4g in the sticks were i live.. So far the DINC to me is one of the best phones out atm.. perfect size and the style is great.. nothing too flashy.... even engadget still says the same...
The DINC should at least get another update..Its got the horesepower.. but the ball is in verizons court etc..on that one.. im just gonna sit back and enjoy it for a year or so then see what else is out there..

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What do you really feel about the Evo?

All I read in the forums are complaints about the Evo. I personally don't have a single issue with the phone aside from the awesomeness overdrive. Obviously, people will post/complain more about their issues than those who are completely happy with their phone. But it does skew the image of the Evo for those who happen to stumble on to XDA in hopes of researching the phone for future use. So here's a poll.
bump. i really want to know.
btw. how the frak do i change my signature?
if you can tell, its so damn old!
love it! and no issues!
Best phone I have ever owned or even used for that matter. Few issues but I think most will be solved within a month of release. Pretty damn impressive if u ask me.
Now if HTC would just release the source code we would be in heaven!!!
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love it! and no issues!
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Same here. If there were, I don't notice it and it doesn't bother me at all for me to completely disown this phone.
It's amazing in many ways and there's still plenty of room for improvements. The roms will certainly help this phone get there.
From the HTC Evo!!
How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!
Eduel80 said:
How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!
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Glad I'm not the only one. I find myself laying in bed at night doing stuff only to realize the sun is coming up....
Eduel80 said:
How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!
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Ha! And my wife calls me a nerd and tells me to put it up. At least I'm not the only one.
Well, I haven't touched my laptop since Tuesday...I love it.
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Having this phone is really starting to mess with my circadian rhythm.
I don't feel anything....but there's alot I THINK about it.
I love it. It's the phone I wish I had years ago when the first iPhone came out. I had a Hero before, and I still liked my wifes 3GS, now with the larger screen of the EVO, I don't have that screen-envy anymore. The iPhone just looks tiny and awkward now.
What are the problems people in the poll are talking about? I don't have any issues with mine.
The people that come to this site repent one half of pone half of one percent of evo owners. The people you see here are either either true hackers, heard about how awesome rooting is and want to do it without reading directions, or find us by way of common search term for a specific issue they are having.
The point is, we may hear slot of complaining here, but its because we're part of a vocal and participatory minority.
I have an ipad for work, I had the pre and before that an htc touch pro before a myriad of other phones dating back to the nokia 101. The evo and android are the closest I have ever seen to fulfilling the promise of mobile technology and convenience.
The future is here, and many of the people reading these forums are holding it right now.
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My 2 Cents
I really like the EVO even though it has some issues like the Camera/Video quality for instance but most are mainly Network related so it would be a better experience had it been on T-Mobile...now the Dream/G1 A.K.A Valeria, (I named her that LOL) that's my baby, I love the **** out of that phone and still have it and probably would never get rid of it...many reasons why, it' the 1st Android phone, (so the Mother of all Androids) it's the White version (had it as soon as it was available) it was my first Smartphone and hacked phone from which I learned a little bit of Linux and it was given to me as a present on my Birthday by the love of my life...yea it's official, I'm never getting rid of that phone! Sorry, most of that had nothing to do with the EVO
I love it but my main gripes are the Android Market. Hopefully more devs make more apps or port some over. The app store isn't really organize and I would like to see some spotlighted apps or recommendations based on what apps you have installed.
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I really like the EVO even though it has some issues like the Camera/Video quality for instance but most are mainly Network related so it would be a better experience had it been on T-Mobile...now the Dream/G1 A.K.A Valeria, (I named her that LOL) that's my baby, I love the **** out of that phone and still have it and probably would never get rid of it...many reasons why, it' the 1st Android phone, (so the Mother of all Androids) it's the White version (had it as soon as it was available) it was my first Smartphone and hacked phone from which I learned a little bit of Linux and it was given to me as a present on my Birthday by the love of my life...yea it's official, I'm never getting rid of that phone! Sorry, most of that had nothing to do with the EVO
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I had the g1 too. Learned stuff with that. I had to sell mine to help me pay for this phone. I miss it, but I love the Evo.
From the HTC Evo!!
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I love it but my main gripes are the Android Market. Hopefully more devs make more apps or port some over. The app store isn't really organize and I would like to see some spotlighted apps or recommendations based on what apps you have installed.
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Yeah. The market needs to go through a major makeover. Some apps are crappy. Needs for categories.. etc. I don't even bother browsing through it. I just search and go.
From the HTC Evo!!
I love my phone....I been hoping to run into someone who has a iPhone so I can say ...hhhhhhaaaaaaa hhhhaaaaa!!!
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Is this the phone to get?

I currently have a Samsung Fascinate and planning to selling it because of lack of some features in Froyo and probably future updates in general.
Is this the phone to get as in terms of software development progress? (In verizon of course). Or is Droid 2 or X good as well? (not liking the X because it's too big).
I don't play games whatsoever on this phone. TBh, most important feature is just getting things done very quickly; Music, E-Mail, Browsing, GPS, SMS/MMS.
Thank you.
Nah, this isn't the phone to get. Verizon has a Powerhouse lineup coming out very soon including the thunderbolt and an LG smartphone ( and the iPhone, being announced tomorrow ).
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Of course I'm a little bias but yes, I think as of now this is the phone to have. The development community rocks, and it is a very quick phone. Now there are some awesome phones on the horizon; the HTC Thunderbolt, and the Moto Droid Bionic. But considering you can get a DInc at Best Buy for free (with a new contract or available upgrade of course) it is a sweet deal. As far as what's currently out I haven't checked the Droid 2 forums but I did check out the X just to see how it was coming, and it's nothing compared to what we have over here. Just my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth.
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Is this the phone to get as in terms of software development progress? (In verizon of course). Or is Droid 2 or X good as well? (not liking the X because it's too big).
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You said "(In verizon of course)." Are you thinking of running the stock ROM? Or plan to root and run some of the great ROMs the devs here put out?
Since you said 'Verizon', makes me think you're planning to run stock. If so, beware that even the Thunderbolt is shipping with Froyo. My guess is we won't see Gingerbread (officially) until spring or summer.
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thank you everyone for your reply!
I meant Verizon as in, I am restricted to phones that Verizon carries. I don't really stay stock, if I do, I'd at least have a ULV Kernel.
If I sell this now, I'll need to use a dumb phone until whatever phone I need comes out. I wonder if I can order the iPhone tomorrow on the website... kind of tempting.
Anyway, thanks everyone!
hkseo100 said:
thank you everyone for your reply!
I meant Verizon as in, I am restricted to phones that Verizon carries. I don't really stay stock, if I do, I'd at least have a ULV Kernel.
If I sell this now, I'll need to use a dumb phone until whatever phone I need comes out. I wonder if I can order the iPhone tomorrow on the website... kind of tempting.
Anyway, thanks everyone!
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I own both the Fascinate and the Incredible. I'd buy another Incredible over any other Verizon phone if I had to buy today. If I could wait I'd buy the Thunderbolt.
Im waiting for the bionic
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When are these coming out? I don't want to be without one of these things for more than a month or so...
The choice is basically Incredible, D2G, or D2X ($50, $150, $120 respectively from Amazon to upgrade on my brothers upgrade eligible line) if the iPhone reallyy comes out tomorrow, I'd have to think about this all over again -.-
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When are these coming out? I don't want to be without one of these things for more than a month or so...
The choice is basically Incredible, D2G, or D2X ($50, $150, $120 respectively from Amazon to upgrade on my brothers upgrade eligible line) if the iPhone reallyy comes out tomorrow, I'd have to think about this all over again -.-
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iPhone will be February at the soonest. It's being announced tomorrow
Personally it was the only choice for me. I think many of the new phones are getting toooooo big. Tho phone is the perfect size for me. If is also very very fast. I still have to get use to the screen keyboard. All my old phones had a keyboard. But that is not too bad.
So, my vote is yes. The size and speed makes it he best phone I have played with.
Thanks SoBBie
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Out of the phones you mentioned I would get an inc. Locked bootloaders + laggy stuttering stock launchers on motoblur devices make mad. Sense (especially the new sense) just feels really solid and polished
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There is a thread I made that shows all the ROMs (that are up to date with development) to show how awesome our dev community is. The incredible is an awesome phone. I am moving to the iPhone because I've wanted one since I switched to VZW, but if you want to stay with android and you are in the sub-4" market... go with the incredible. It is the heat.
The thread I mentioned is at the top of the droid incredible development page, as a sticky.
Ok so iPhone announced preorders begin Feb 3rd releases Feb 10th, if you want to stay Android get the Thunderbolt, Motorola does a horrible job with android phones and the Droid and Droid X community's are dead, if you get an Incredible your getting us, the great community but you could be getting the 4g LTE with the thunderbolt. In conclusion YOUR BETTER OFF GETTING THE THUNDERBOLT!
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What is the deal with upgrades at January 16th?
I have the discount pricing for additional family line (my little brother) available for use, that's why I was considering the 3 phones because they're not that pricey at Amazon.com or Newegg.com with contract.
Bloody hell, I would be stuck with a dumbphone until those new phones come out.. and I heard Verizon might do a more expensive plan for 4G phones?
lol iphone,, um negative.. hell im gonna leave verizon.. tired of paying out the arse.. lol gonna go to virgin mobile.. ( samsung intercept ) <----ya i know but for 27 bucks a month its worth it.. not to mention still have my DINC to play with over wifi...
I realized I didnt use alot of junk outside of facebook. last.f.m. and a few other apps. so the intercept will work just fine.. and still have 3g service..
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What is the deal with upgrades at January 16th?
I have the discount pricing for additional family line (my little brother) available for use, that's why I was considering the 3 phones because they're not that pricey at Amazon.com or Newegg.com with contract.
Bloody hell, I would be stuck with a dumbphone until those new phones come out.. and I heard Verizon might do a more expensive plan for 4G phones?
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I'm sure 4G would cost more.. it is 8x faster... but only 1/3 of their 3G is covered with 4G.. do us without have to pay.. if so, **** that. ill get a fascinate to be my play around phone then lol. 4g isn't that important to me, either is 2.3, nor 3.0.. i had 1.5 on my eris that was rock solid. ever since that freak hype for 2.1 it has ruined it for me. I will never let myself get that excited for an update again, esp considering how long that wait was for what felt like nothing. I think that is what the Thunderbolt is gunna be like, since 2/3 of the 3g population won't have 4g service it will basically be an incredible with a 4.3 screen, stand, sound, and second gen snapdragon or whatever.
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Personally it was the only choice for me. I think many of the new phones are getting toooooo big. Tho phone is the perfect size for me. If is also very very fast. I still have to get use to the screen keyboard. All my old phones had a keyboard. But that is not too bad.
So, my vote is yes. The size and speed makes it he best phone I have played with.
Thanks SoBBie
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Same here.
i went from the fascinate to the Dinc for the same reasons you did, and couldn't be happier. There just wasn't a solid DEV community for that phone.. coming to the DINC was night and day.. so many choices, so much support.. I run the MIUI ROM and love it..
I left the D2 for the Incredible and have zero regrets. If you want to have custom ROMs and kernels, you have to stick with HTC. X/2 ROMs are really hamstrung by the locked bootloader.
The development scene on the Incredible is great and probably as good as it will get on Verizon for the foreseeable future. The Thunderbolt will get custom ROMs and kernels just the same, but public sentiment seems to indicate it won't be as popular - meaning a slightly smaller development community (though perhaps Incredible and EVO ports will be relatively simple).
All that said, I'm probably going to jump on the Thunderbolt the day its released
I love the inc, but i would also wait.
I would actually wait until I see a phone that has the dev support/community like the Inc.
For me, where the dev support goes is where I go.

Droid I2 or switch for upcoming Moto Droid 3

I am in a pickle..
On one hand, I have always loved HTC phones. I had the verizon VX6800 when it came out and love it for a long time. Then switched to some crap phone when I broke it.
When Motorola released the Droid, i paid for it out right. Loved it! treated that thing like gold. When they released the Droid 2, i was able to get it from Best Buy for free with a upgrade. I grabbed it, was able to sell my mint condition OG Droid too.
The Droid 2, I wasn't so impressed with. Yes it was just like the droid, but blur and the quality just wasn't there like the OG droid. Just a few weeks ago, I got Verizon to replace it for me with the Droid Incredible 2.
Back to HTC, I have to say im impressed. the lack of the Qwerty keyboard does put a cramp in my style that I have been used to for the past 2 years but nothing swype didn't fix.
So now, I see the droid 3 coming out in like a week. I could still return the Droid I2 for it. But I am unsure, with the DI2 getting Gingerbread soon and how well built the phone is. Also my bad run with the droid 2...
Any thoughts on what to do?
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I am in a pickle..
On one hand, I have always loved HTC phones. I had the verizon VX6800 when it came out and love it for a long time. Then switched to some crap phone when I broke it.
When Motorola released the Droid, i paid for it out right. Loved it! treated that thing like gold. When they released the Droid 2, i was able to get it from Best Buy for free with a upgrade. I grabbed it, was able to sell my mint condition OG Droid too.
The Droid 2, I wasn't so impressed with. Yes it was just like the droid, but blur and the quality just wasn't there like the OG droid. Just a few weeks ago, I got Verizon to replace it for me with the Droid Incredible 2.
Back to HTC, I have to say im impressed. the lack of the Qwerty keyboard does put a cramp in my style that I have been used to for the past 2 years but nothing swype didn't fix.
So now, I see the droid 3 coming out in like a week. I could still return the Droid I2 for it. But I am unsure, with the DI2 getting Gingerbread soon and how well built the phone is. Also my bad run with the droid 2...
Any thoughts on what to do?
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This phone is my choice but I prefer HTC to Motorola.
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I am loving the htc much more then the D2. Im looking at having a dual core proc, and full keyboard. Im just not sure of the d3 quality compaired to this phone now.
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I am loving the htc much more then the D2. Im looking at having a dual core proc, and full keyboard. Im just not sure of the d3 quality compaired to this phone now.
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Honestly I'm willing to wait on the dual core...how much RAM does the d3 have? I mean the x2 is awesome but is bottlenecked by its RAM. This thing multi tasks awesomely because of its RAM. And the battery life can't be beat. I'm a heavy user and with the slightly larger battery I got 20 hours today with the screen on time of almost 5 hours...and I live in the middle of no where so I have cell service only half the time.
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I'm gonna get the Droid 3 for my dad the software in my opinion looks like MOTO improved on it, but as for me giving my mom this incd2 so I can get the bionic in august go MOTO dual-core LTE
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I never thought a MOTO phone would be the more open choice, but if you want to root don't go with the inc2. It is one of the most locked down phones ever released. The only known stable root method costs a costs over a 100 dollars. There are some who claim they have a software root, but in my professional opinion a stable version of it will never be released. If you want to lock yourself into a 2 year contract on what is probably an empty promise, that is your choice, but I wouldn't.
Now if you don't care about root, the inc2 is a great phone.
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Really? You have no patience. Inc2 is going to get root from alpharev....you will see....and feel dumb for all the bashing you are doing. Its sad that some people keep talking bad about phones/devs cuz they "think" they are smart. Have you exploited root? No. Have you made a rom? No. Did your mom dress you this morning? Yes. Go away and be happy with the phone you have. Keep your comments to yourself and leave.
Bob
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kingsway8605 said:
I never thought a MOTO phone would be the more open choice, but if you want to root don't go with the inc2. It is one of the most locked down phones ever released. The only known stable root method costs a costs over a 100 dollars. There are some who claim they have a software root, but in my professional opinion a stable version of it will never be released. If you want to lock yourself into a 2 year contract on what is probably an empty promise, that is your choice, but I wouldn't.
Now if you don't care about root, the inc2 is a great phone.
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If you don't care about reality, this is a great post.
As it stands, a quick browse of this users posting history should reveal just how worthless his posts are. (Edit: It seems the majority of his posts have been removed by moderators. Understandable, it's just too bad most of the evidence of his stupidity has been deleted.)
As for the phones, my preference would be the Dinc2 because I don't need a QWERTY, but if that's your thing then the Droid 3 might be for you. If I were you I'd spend some time in the store playing with the D3 to determine if you prefer the "feel".
I would guess you'd be disappointed if you switched. I've rooted tons of phones, the Inc2 is by far the best android device i've touched to date. My phone turns circles around a DX2 with it's dual core.
Give swiftkey a try for a keyboard if you're coming from a physical one, it's awesome.
After the issues I have and had with my DROID 2 Global, Motorola would have to do a lot to earn my business again. I mean, it is nice having a stable phone, which the D2G is NOT!
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After the issues I have and had with my DROID 2 Global, Motorola would have to do a lot to earn my business again. I mean, it is nice having a stable phone, which the D2G is NOT!
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This. Of all the phones in my possession at the moment, the only one I truly dislike is the D2G. Its just awful. Having owned a Droid X and Droid 1, the only way Motorola could win me back is if they just ditched blur entirely and made a quality, open phone like the Droid 1 was. If people keep buying the garbage they produce, nothing will ever change.
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I'd urge caution for the D3. Head into the store and check it out first. It uses the same PenTile qHD display which some people (myself included) think is painfully grainy looking. I won't even pull a DX2 off the shelf unless people specifically ask for it because I'm so embarrassed to show them the display if they're coming from a OG Droid or something with a much better looking display. If I hold a DX2 up next to a Samsung Charge, it's glaringly obvious what the difference between Super AMOLED+ and qHD is. qHD does not fare well in that comparison.
Never in my lifetime
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Bob-o said:
Really? You have no patience. Inc2 is going to get root from alpharev....you will see....and feel dumb for all the bashing you are doing. Its sad that some people keep talking bad about phones/devs cuz they "think" they are smart. Have you exploited root? No. Have you made a rom? No. Did your mom dress you this morning? Yes. Go away and be happy with the phone you have. Keep your comments to yourself and leave.
Bob
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I would feel dumb IF a stable software root was released. But I am not worried about that happening.
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I've decided to stay with the DI2, I was playing around with the new D3 today and im not that impressed. Its like a Dx2 with a keyboard. I've decided i HATE moto blur and will never go back. Now im just hoping that 2.3 update comes to the DI2 soon!
jkrolcz said:
I am in a pickle..
On one hand, I have always loved HTC phones. I had the verizon VX6800 when it came out and love it for a long time. Then switched to some crap phone when I broke it.
When Motorola released the Droid, i paid for it out right. Loved it! treated that thing like gold. When they released the Droid 2, i was able to get it from Best Buy for free with a upgrade. I grabbed it, was able to sell my mint condition OG Droid too.
The Droid 2, I wasn't so impressed with. Yes it was just like the droid, but blur and the quality just wasn't there like the OG droid. Just a few weeks ago, I got Verizon to replace it for me with the Droid Incredible 2.
Back to HTC, I have to say im impressed. the lack of the Qwerty keyboard does put a cramp in my style that I have been used to for the past 2 years but nothing swype didn't fix.
So now, I see the droid 3 coming out in like a week. I could still return the Droid I2 for it. But I am unsure, with the DI2 getting Gingerbread soon and how well built the phone is. Also my bad run with the droid 2...
Any thoughts on what to do?
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well, I had the original incredible and even though it was a struggle with my big hands, it was still a great phone. I ended up getting the thunderbolt awhile back and yes, the bigger size was a plus for me, but the phone had some issues(including terrible battery life even with extended battery). I had 30 days to bring it back through best buy and in the last week the droid charge & incredible 2 were supposed to come out. originally I was thinking the charge, but then it got delayed so I just got the incredible 2. at first I was a bit bummed about the no 4G thing but other then that this has been a pretty solid phone.

I love my dinc! But what's next?

I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
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Nothing is worthy of replacing the inc yet. I look daily. Lol
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wollitaj said:
I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
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It's wall to wall walls in this place!!!
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I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.
I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.
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I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.
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HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*
I did a long hard search and honestly there is nothing better than the DINC right now.
The Droid incredible 2 I still wouldn't take just because of the lack of development.
I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.
actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps
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HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*
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Ill tell ya what, if the next nexus is truely an HTC phone on Verizon, I will definitely get it. Its the best of everything android stands for. Open source vanilla OS and superior hardware. HTC is, by far, my top pick for any android phone!!!! And ics, come on.... What more can u ask for?
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TheWhiteBandito said:
I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.
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That's when I have my upgrade option as well and honestly I'm thinking about switching to Sprint. They have been getting some of the best phones lately. When I look at Verizon's line up and upcoming it seems to be all of the same.
JoelZ9614 said:
actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps
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Hm i didn't see that.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/sprints-fared-adib-we-made-a-conscious-decision-to-scale-back/
Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.
I have incredible faith (heh heh) in our devs. Seeing as the inc2 has just been rooted and we have the 2 big boys, cm7 and Miui already available for the device, i believe ill be accidentally taking a shower with my Dinc in my pocket in the next few weeks.
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rfarrah said:
Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.
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Also, as far as I'm concerned, as long as the devs hold in there with this phone until the end of this year and port ICS, I will probably keep this phone until it dies.
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Im keeping my Incredible until 3/13/13. Then i dont know if my girlfriend gets my upgrade or i do.
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What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc, absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard. I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet. There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.
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I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.
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Verizon gets a small incentive from the companies of the bloatware, that's why they put them on there. and i don't think verizon will ever get a nexus bone stock android phone, i really don't, here is why. Verizon isn't really out there for the consumer, they are out there for the profit. hence why, i mean at t-mobile and ATT, if you want a new phone, no problem, walk into the store, and get one at the upgrade price....in the middle of your contract.
Verizon hasn't gotten the idea of that just yet. plus like other companies, verizon does have shareholders to report to (and they aren't happy, they think the data plan changes will ruin their investment)
the only reason i have verizon is because that's the only carrier here with decent coverege, and they really aren't as bad as people make them out to be.
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What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc,
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that's your oppinion.
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absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard.
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yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
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I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet.
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maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
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There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.
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really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
the way you pimp the freaking t-bolt so much... the thunderbolt threads are down there
Kiboe said:
that's your oppinion.
yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
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Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.
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Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.
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Wow man way to be a total ****. I have an incredible and my brother has a Tbolt, I can honestly say I prefer mine over it.
Besides that, although the Tbolt and INC2 *are* upgrades from the INC- for most people they just aren't worth someone's 2-year contract or full retail to get that sort of an upgrade. You've been out of the INC scene for a while it looks like.. and DEV's here are still putting out loads of stuff every day increasing performance/battery life/features -- moreso than INC2 or Thunderbolt since they've been out a shorter time. The INC2 even has issues now where if you buy it and it comes with GB, you can't even root it.
4G is extremely scarce, if you drive out 5 miles from whatever city you're in then you're out of luck as far as 4G goes. 4G is nowhere in my state yet, not even in our capitol (Richmond) and it looks like it'll be at least a year, probably more until we get it. The 3G, at least where I'm at, is fantastically good. I get 320kb/s on a good day and low 200's/kb/s during peak hours. That's enough to stream Colbert report, download movies (I've downloaded 4 so far) and watch netflix without pauses or hiccups.
So.. even if there WAS 4G in my area there really isn't any need that I get it since I don't normally watch HD movies on a ~4" screen or tether it to a datacenter.
Your opinion and mine.. but you don't need to flaunt around your phone while downing the INC (on our own forums) which is a perfectly awesome phone.

Re-Invigorate (From Inc2 to X2)

I just wanted to bring up this discussion again and get some people's thought on changing from inc2 to X2. Especially since the root on 2.3.3 is taking a long time.
My brother has the X2, and given that it has root, unlike my inc2 with 2.3.3, I've been highly tempted to switch; Then, I noticed something that really makes me want to make the switch:
His reception is continuously a few bars higher than mine- given the better reception, available root (I just rooted his phone for him this morning), dual core, and better resolution- I am highly tempted... What are your thoughts? I know it has less ram, but he's never had any problems with it...
I also like the dedicated buttons for home and such- you can actually hold the phone slightly differently than the Inc2 because of this, and its kinda nice.. Although, I do like the ease of the HTC touch buttons...
I'm not trying to hate- I've been an loyal HTC user since the XV-6800.
So how about it community of awesomeness- Would you make the change if given the opportunity to do it for free?
motorola products are well built...but u will be the running the stock kernel until the end of time, regardless of 2nd init
also i hate motorola so im prejudiced
Calibob2001 said:
I just wanted to bring up this discussion again and get some people's thought on changing from inc2 to X2. Especially since the root on 2.3.3 is taking a long time.
My brother has the X2, and given that it has root, unlike my inc2 with 2.3.3, I've been highly tempted to switch; Then, I noticed something that really makes me want to make the switch:
His reception is continuously a few bars higher than mine- given the better reception, available root (I just rooted his phone for him this morning), dual core, and better resolution- I am highly tempted... What are your thoughts? I know it has less ram, but he's never had any problems with it...
I also like the dedicated buttons for home and such- you can actually hold the phone slightly differently than the Inc2 because of this, and its kinda nice.. Although, I do like the ease of the HTC touch buttons...
I'm not trying to hate- I've been an loyal HTC user since the XV-6800.
So how about it community of awesomeness- Would you make the change if given the opportunity to do it for free?
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The cell reception isn't actually much better. Compare the dbm in about phone and you will see that the bars don't tell the whole story.
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I just rooted an X2 and upgraded it to a zipaligned deodexed and debloated 2.3.3.
The thing wasn't even close to my inc2 in speed, not even in the same zipcode.
Unless you need root desperately, i'd wait. The specs on the motorola may look strong, but you stick the 2 phones together and rooted inc2 with a good rom is going to smoke that thing to pieces any day.
I've hated every Moto I've had the misfortune of owning. That includes the X. Since you're asking for opinion I'd say hell no. No Moto is as good as the Inc2 right now. The dual core will be crap compared to the 1.5 dual snapdragon anyway
I switched from the X2 to the INC2. That stock X2 had more bugs than than the amazon rainforest! I couldn't even play an MP3 without it skipping when trying to run another app. IMHO, there is nowhere near enough RAM on the X2, especially for a dual core. With light use, the available RAM was well below 100MB. On many occasions, the available RAM was below 50Mbs. I would advise anyone to run, not walk, from the X2 as quick as possible. The users with bad experiences far out number those with good. And those with good experiences, I think have just become complacent with a sub-par device. That's my 2 cents. Having used both phones, I can honestly say the INC2 will run circles around the X2. All the tweaks in the world won't give the X2 more RAM.
These posts have been very insightful. I suppose I will wait for the root on the Inc2- At least we can do WiFi sharing, that's one of the major things I wanted to get out of a root anyhow. I just wish we could get rid of all that VZW crap
Thanks again community- ya never fail
A deblurred, deodexed, debloated, zipalinged Droid X2 wouldn't be bad. But IMO we shouldn't have to do all of that to make a phone function like the DInc2.
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I work for Big Red and from my sales experience I would not take a X2 if it was a gift. From the X to the X2 has been a constant headache. The Dinc2 is like a zippy exotic sports car and the MOTO X is like a Chevy Camaro with a supercharged engine but only has a 5 gallon gas tank.
I believe it was Phonescoop that did a great write up on the Dinc2. In short they said: The HTC Droid Incredible 2 is a fluid machine with updates to 2.3.3 but like its older brother the Droid Incredible it will be in the shadows of the other phones launching. The 4g line and X2 will hog up air time and billboard space. While the Dinc2 will only be seen as the red headed step child.
Ok that is my take on what they said but it is true.
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I'm actually kinda liking the Droid 3. Keyboard.
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One of my inlaws has an X2, and it does indeed get a considerably stronger signal than the Inc2, but personally, I can't stand everything else about it - the size, the crazy shape, the locked boot loader, the physical buttons and the widly reported bugs.
Yeah- it is rather square- actually, I'm pretty sure I would really regret going from an uber sexy phone to the X2. The decision has been made, I'm getting asurion to send me another Inc2.
Today my sister had a problem with her Inc2, it randomly went into global mode and she had to do a hard reset to get it back on the CDMA network- anyone else have this problem? I've had my inc2 do it to me a couple times which is why I am having asurion send me another new device...
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Yeah- it is rather square- actually, I'm pretty sure I would really regret going from an uber sexy phone to the X2. The decision has been made, I'm getting asurion to send me another Inc2.
Today my sister had a problem with her Inc2, it randomly went into global mode and she had to do a hard reset to get it back on the CDMA network- anyone else have this problem? I've had my inc2 do it to me a couple times which is why I am having asurion send me another new device...
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Glad you decided to stay! Because rooting just became possible! See what patience can do?
After alot of problems with a d2g I got vz to replace it with a dinc2(not here yet). So I've done alot of research today and saw a crapload of videos reviews mostly and I have to say that the software on the dinc2 will be better then motos. Haven't used it but I Already know that based on what i've seen. I started out my droid journey with an eris and let's be honest that phone stunk. So with that had a bad taste in my mouth with htc and sense. I got a dx and never considered an htc device again until I actually took a look at the inc2. I'm happy with my d3 don't get me wrong but I may have went with it. Prior to actually checking the phones out they seemed kinda feminine with their rainbow wallpapers but after seeing its capabilities I may give my old lady the d3 and keep the inc2
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Root now available? Absolutely amazing! Those guys over at revolutionary are truly amazing. I'm glad I didn't buy an xtc clip today like I was planning on doing.
I had the inc1 and gore insurance to upgrade me to the inc2 for free- I am very pleased. It is quite a bit more zippy than the inc1 and when I talked to the guy at asurion, he said the inc2 was the phone that worked the best; that is, he almost never got a call about problema on the inc2.
I can't wait to see what this phone can do now that the bulk of inc2 users can finally root! The developers on this site are truly amazing.

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