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Netcounter

This is my first android phone so I am still finding my way around it, I am looking for a little bit of help.
I installed netcounter and everything seems to be ok it opens and displays the data screens but it never updates the wifi data. (I did a search but found nothing for my problem).
Am I supposed to do something else after the install ? Any help would be much appreciated I also emailed the developer but never got a reply

If it doesn't count WiFi isn't that a good thing? Means what it does say is your mobile Internet which is what you want to keep an eye on...

same problem
i got same problem on my new Desire, wifi is zero all the time, but it does count my mobile data, but probably wrong.. looks like it counts them altogether

lol, guys please
just think logically, what are apps like this made for? to monitor your internet usage so you dont go over your monthly plan, WiFi is free so why would it monitor it and confuse you with overall results?

To be fair though the app has a specific section for WiFi data usage which only ever displays 0 but is clearly meant to show your usage, so it is not working correctly.
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no idea why, but it looks like that.. i was using wifi and count of my mobile data was on the increase
but in my brothers legend works fine

well if your with T-Mobile you can always check how much you used on the My T-Mobile page

cez10 said:
lol, guys please
just think logically, what are apps like this made for? to monitor your internet usage so you dont go over your monthly plan, WiFi is free so why would it monitor it and confuse you with overall results?
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Of course it should work for wi fi! The app works correctly on other phones. I have contacted the author for a fix for desire. And its very useful to see what activities use up the mb on wi fi so u can estimate what usage it will use when not on wi fi

still active?
I've been able to patch the sourcecode to get it to work on the HTC Desire, which was very easy since it is basically the same device as the Nexus One. I've been using that patched version without a problem.
I've submitted that patch to the author almost 3 weeks ago, but I've received no reply yet. I've also noticed that the application source code hasn't been updated since January, 3rd, so I suspect that this application isn't being actively developed anymore...
Does anybody have a good alternative that monitors both 3G and WiFi?

I'm using Network Monitor since I also couldn't get Netcounter to count wi-fi data. Network monitor doesn't have a problem with that.

Try Smart Monitor Lite, it measures both WiFi and mobile net. Works fine for me...

LuftWalk said:
I'm using Network Monitor since I also couldn't get Netcounter to count wi-fi data. Network monitor doesn't have a problem with that.
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Thanks Luftwalk, I'll check it out, though up front I already know I won't like the ads. I live in Belgium so I won't be able to get rid of those...

[Q] GPRS/Bandwidth monitor?

The only one I found is "GPRS Monitor", which looks excellent, but doesn't work on Galaxy S...
Anyone knows a similar program that works on Galaxy S ?

I'm using 3g Watchdog works well.

I'm fine with DroidStats for the moment. You could also try Call Meter NG or Plan Monitor Widget. If you're just lookin' for traffic stats, i think 3G Watchdog is the way to go. There are several more, I think.

I use 3G watchdog as well, its all you need!

NetCounter also does the job

Using 3g Watchdog as well but is there an app which measures how many minutes one has been on 3G?

I am testing now Smart Monitor Lite. It is monitoring Mobile and Wi-fi Traffic( daily and monthly)Banwdwidth not suported. Available at Market

kuplet said:
Using 3g Watchdog as well but is there an app which measures how many minutes one has been on 3G?
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To my knowledge minutes aren't the issue with regards to 3G, only the bandwidth that you eat dictates how much money your network provider takes out of your bank account.

Installed 3g watchdog....works fine, thx

Neo-ST said:
The only one I found is "GPRS Monitor", which looks excellent, but doesn't work on Galaxy S...
Anyone knows a similar program that works on Galaxy S ?
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Try googling the netcounter-0.14.1.apk. It is free.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys, will try the other apps you guys posted. I know its the amount of data that you use while surfing with 3G is what your going to get billed for but where I come from, they have promos wherein there is a flat rate/cost for 15 mins of 3G usage.

Currently I use 3G watchdog. But it doesnt exactly serve my purpose.
My plan gives me 1GB day time free usage and 5GB night time free usage in a month.
Day time = 7am-11pm
Night time = 11pm-6.59am.
So basically I get billed if I cross 1GB during day time (over a month) or 5GB during night time.
Does anyone here know of any app that can keep time-of-the-day based data counters. Basically, I need 2 counters which keep logging activity based on different timings.
Please let me know if you know such an app.
Thanks in advance.

internet draining alot of cpu and memory.

Only have one window open and my internet seems to be draining alot of memory and cpu usage and setting of my watchdog. How do i stop it? Recently cleared all the cache and cookies.

I would also like to know if I find anything out I'll let you know but in the mean time I think it depends on what you are viewing like facebook is an extremely large site with a lot of traffic.
skillzo1 said:
Only have one window open and my internet seems to be draining alot of memory and cpu usage and setting of my watchdog. How do i stop it? Recently cleared all the cache and cookies.
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Swyped from Eva running Myn's RLS4!

are you positive it is your internet. many process and apss run in the background so just because you only have internet open at the moment does not mean it is the internet for sure causing the problem.
what watchdog message is comign up when it goes off?
What browser are you using
are you using 3g or 4g
do you always have mobile data (3g or 4g depending on what you are using when the drain is happening) on?
Do yo have a process monitering app such as system panel?
I am going to assume you ahvent gone to that detail yet. I highly recommend getting the paid verion of system moniter if you are having this kind of issue as it lets you run a history of the top apps using cpu/power. it also lets you see a nice battey graph and shows you all process running wether they are active or inactive and how much cpu time they are using.
It makes diagnosing these kinds of problems much easier.

Stop using the internet. This should solve the problem.
Seriously though. Browsing the web with your EVO does all the things that suck the most battery. Graphics, 3G, 4G, Wifi.

omegasun18 said:
are you positive it is your internet. many process and apss run in the background so just because you only have internet open at the moment does not mean it is the internet for sure causing the problem.
what watchdog message is comign up when it goes off?
What browser are you using
are you using 3g or 4g
do you always have mobile data (3g or 4g depending on what you are using when the drain is happening) on?
Do yo have a process monitering app such as system panel?
I am going to assume you ahvent gone to that detail yet. I highly recommend getting the paid verion of system moniter if you are having this kind of issue as it lets you run a history of the top apps using cpu/power. it also lets you see a nice battey graph and shows you all process running wether they are active or inactive and how much cpu time they are using.
It makes diagnosing these kinds of problems much easier.
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It happens in both 3g and 4g. Watch dog pops up and says internet usage is at 71% would u like to close it? I say yes.
I have systsm panel lite...sometimes it works but alot of time it doesnt. Your most common apps just reopen up it seems like. Thank you for your help.

mitchellvii said:
Stop using the internet. This should solve the problem.
Seriously though. Browsing the web with your EVO does all the things that suck the most battery. Graphics, 3G, 4G, Wifi.
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Ahhh this is the answer i was looking for ( fart noise ). Pay$ 40 extra a month for internet usage and to be told not to use it. Thats like buying toilet paper and never wiping your ass.

Data usage widget?

Does anyone know of a good data usage widget for hercules?
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i used this https://market.android.com/details?id=net.rgruet.android.g3watchdog
when i had a limited data plan
since i got unlimited, i totally removed it off my phone

I also use 3G Watchdog.
Works fantastic. Tells me how much data I used today/this week/this month/this cycle, and what I am trending to do for the cycle. You set your bill cycle start date and data cap limit.

I like traffic monitor better than watchdog, its just a widget but it tells youvur data usage on wifi and mobile, even which apps are using data and how much
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.radioopt.widget
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both are good choices, but 3g wathdog is more accurate IMO, it also has backup/restore option so you can continue to monitor your data usage, eve after you wipe and flash to a new ROM

I dont think theres one that auto tracks like the droid phones. All these ones you have to enter in the info
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define auto track, what do you mean by that?
if the apps don't auto track, then you'll never have updated accurate information
so, i've no clue what you are trying to say

data apps
3G Watchdog wasn't tracking any usage for me on this phone(because I'm not using 3G?). I installed one from the market called My Data Manager Free that is ok. It's more basic but seems to do the job. I've only been using it for 2 days, so I don't really know how accurate it is.
*Edit*I re-loaded 3g watchdog this afternoon and it seems to work fine now. Not sure why it didn't work when I loaded it the first time.

3g watchdog ou have to enter your billing cycle so it resets. I was wondering if there was one that jst tracked my data withoit me entering in anything
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Just use the My Account app installed on the phone. Tells you how much data you have used, how many minutes talk time and SMS messages.

I have been experiencing a lot.of issues with any data monitor not working. Any ideas?? Thanks
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Is data connectivity gone when 4g is in "idle" state?

I have been asking this on Sprint forums for a while, I searched here and didn't really see this issue. It's a pretty concerning issue for me and I'm wondering if it's common because I know it would bother everyone.
My first post was basically saying I wasn't receiving push notifications, after doing some testing I posted this.
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As a follow up:
I have noticed that the data doesn't come through the the 4g is idle.(Zzz)
I tested it with two applications:
Whatsapp, have a friend send me a message with 4g active, message came through. I had the same friend send me one with 4g in idle mode and the message does not come through at all, even if I browse the internet and make 4g idle again, the message will only come through after I open whatsapp again.
Beejive and eBuddy messanging apps: I opened my own account and tested from my PC with the same scenarios as before, I get the same results.
It seems my phone is losing a data connection all together when 4g goes into idle, now this can't be right can it?
Looks like the NS has the same issue:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/70874
This can't be right can it? I mean completely shut off my phones data connection when the 4g radio is sleeping? How does this make sense..
Anyone?

jmejiaa said:
I have been asking this on Sprint forums for a while, I searched here and didn't really see this issue. It's a pretty concerning issue for me and I'm wondering if it's common because I know it would bother everyone.
My first post was basically saying I wasn't receiving push notifications, after doing some testing I posted this.
Copy/Paste from Sprint forums:
As a follow up:
I have noticed that the data doesn't come through the the 4g is idle.(Zzz)
I tested it with two applications:
Whatsapp, have a friend send me a message with 4g active, message came through. I had the same friend send me one with 4g in idle mode and the message does not come through at all, even if I browse the internet and make 4g idle again, the message will only come through after I open whatsapp again.
Beejive and eBuddy messanging apps: I opened my own account and tested from my PC with the same scenarios as before, I get the same results.
It seems my phone is losing a data connection all together when 4g goes into idle, now this can't be right can it?
Looks like the NS has the same issue:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/70874
This can't be right can it? I mean completely shut off my phones data connection when the 4g radio is sleeping? How does this make sense..
Anyone?
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Kinda ... I believe it still works in the background for any app that might need internet connectivity. The time out sucks cause is so short but it is done, I believe, for the purpose of saving battery, like if no app is in need of data then it shuts down. Also, there are codes to make this time-out take longer to kick in, somewhere buried in these threads.

Thanks for the reply. Yea I saw some options, but raising the time out would probably kill my battery.
For now keeping on 3g seems to be my best bet..
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Usually when a radio goes to sleep there is something called a rx interrupt that will wake it up when there is a packet received. This is based on my limited experience working with radios as an electrical engineering student. I don't know. how the specific wimax radio in this phone works.
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Not sure how it works, but in honesty its very frustrating, the fact that it isn't a bigger deal on here makes me think it doesn't happen to all?
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I hate to bump this again, but are the views people that don't have this issue at all?
I feel like this is a deal breaker

I get this all the time. When driving, I like to listen to shoutcast stations.
If I lose signal for more than like 10 seconds, the 4G idles and never reconnects unless I either toggle 4g off/on or tap a shoutcast station to wake the 4g back on. The 3G struggles to reconnect to the station usually and times out.
It is pretty irritating. My best friend always teases me for getting an android phone over his iPhone 4S PO$ on AT&T. lol

Javeline4 said:
I get this all the time. When driving, I like to listen to shoutcast stations.
If I lose signal for more than like 10 seconds, the 4G idles and never reconnects unless I either toggle 4g off/on or tap a shoutcast station to wake the 4g back on. The 3G struggles to reconnect to the station usually and times out.
It is pretty irritating. My best friend always teases me for getting an android phone over his iPhone 4S PO$ on AT&T. lol
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I'm keeping it on 3g right now, that should give you the same speeds of his 4s. I'll turn on 4g when I know I need it. So far 3g hasn't been slow enough for me to even have to turn it on.
I like this phone a lot and considered returning it but there isn't a phone as powerful so I decided to deal with it for now.
I went to sprint but the tech wasn't there, the counter guy tried to tell me it's the same with any 4g phone but I really don't think so. I think people would get rly pissy if messages didn't come in for hours.
I'm going to see the tech and test it with another 4g phone, if it doesn't happen I'll ask him to open a ticket and MAYBE that'll get something done.

there are a few tweaks that you can do in the epst menu that help out with the 4g connection going dormant. let me see if i can find the thread

I looked into setting the "sleep" time to 300 seconds, haven't done it yet but I'd be worried about it sucking my battery too fast.
I just feel it should work in sleep mode and I want to see what other sprint 4g phones do, if it's only with this phone I want to at least try to get it up to Sprint as a bug(event though most likely nothing will happen.
Someone on El13 said they didn't get this behavior in another thread.. I've tested it on stock EG30 and Ek20

Okay, so I'm not crazy. I thought I noticed this on both my OG Epic and the Touch. Mostly for me it manifests in not getting push notifications while on 4G in idle. That's been my main complaint with it. So I mostly don't use it, although I'm rarely anywhere with 4G anyway, so it's irrelevant.

TurboFool said:
Okay, so I'm not crazy. I thought I noticed this on both my OG Epic and the Touch. Mostly for me it manifests in not getting push notifications while on 4G in idle. That's been my main complaint with it. So I mostly don't use it, although I'm rarely anywhere with 4G anyway, so it's irrelevant.
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Yep this is issue.. I'm leaving 4g off now and I'm not really bothered by that so it's not that big of a deal.. I was about to return the phone though because i was missing important messages through push notification.

jmejiaa said:
Yep this is issue.. I'm leaving 4g off now and I'm not really bothered by that so it's not that big of a deal.. I was about to return the phone though because i was missing important messages through push notification.
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Can you give me a few examples of push notifications? I want to test this on my Epic Touch. Are G-Talk messages push? Stock email? You have me curious about this now....
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JohnCorleone said:
Can you give me a few examples of push notifications? I want to test this on my Epic Touch. Are G-Talk messages push? Stock email? You have me curious about this now....
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I have not tried gtalk but I think it would have the same issue.
I have tried and all of them fail with the same issue:
Whatsapp
Gmail app (I don't use Samsungs stock email)
Beejive messenger
ebuddy messenger
let me know what you find.. I just can't believe this isn't a big bug - something tells me it might be Samsung's radios.

I went ahead and changed my idle time to 300... The phone doesn't go to zzz anymore so far so that should let me stay on 4g. That should give me 5 hours of the phone not going to sleep so during a normal day I shouldn't have this issue.. Maybe when I'm sleeping I won't see my notifications I will leave it on for now..
My DL speeds with 4g are like 7-8k so that's MUCh better than 3g for me. Also we'll see about battery drain.

Yes I have this problem. I also have the same issue with leaving WIFI on all the time. Everything is delayed unless you just used the phone.

frigidazzi said:
Yes I have this problem. I also have the same issue with leaving WIFI on all the time. Everything is delayed unless you just used the phone.
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I don't think I have it on wifi. Will test tonight.

John,
Another example of 'push' is using imap with gmail account. I use both k9 and maildroid using the imap connection method. When a message arrives at the google server it should 'push' it to our phones in a short turn around time frame. I've seen this vary from immediate to 45 minutes on the server end. The usage of 'pop' of course is the 'pull' method when polling is necessary.
Bill

jmejiaa said:
I went ahead and changed my idle time to 300... The phone doesn't go to zzz anymore so far so that should let me stay on 4g. That should give me 5 hours of the phone not going to sleep so during a normal day I shouldn't have this issue.. Maybe when I'm sleeping I won't see my notifications I will leave it on for now..
My DL speeds with 4g are like 7-8k so that's MUCh better than 3g for me. Also we'll see about battery drain.
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300 in IdleSleep is actually 5 minutes, not 5 hours (I'm pretty sure the value is in seconds).
That being said, I haven't seen any push notification issues on 4G on EG30 or EL13. I regularly get Gtalk and Gmail notifications all the time while idle on 4G. The only thing that seems slow on push notification is the built in email client. But I'm not sure if that is a client or Hotmail issue. I wonder if your issue is region specific.

From what I read it is minutes.. But that could all be wrong I guess
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