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How big is the chance that we will one day have an unlocked bootloader to make flashing easier? According to urandroid Motorola is actually thinking about a more modder-friendly version. Well if that is true let's hope they will one day release it.
it would be good. Im not sure what they say is actually true but rather a pr stunt trying to fix what a motorola person said on a you tube comment however it would be good. I doubt mororola would back track on unlocking it.
However the milestone's bootloader is cracked now so its not impossible and maby only a matter of time befor the defy gets a version of that exploit!
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However the milestone's bootloader is cracked now so its not impossible and maby only a matter of time befor the defy gets a version of that exploit!
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You sure about this?
The Androinc.net Project suggests that the Milestone isn't cracked yet. I'm donating some of my cpu cycles to the project. Hopefully a Milestone solution will carry benefits for the DEFY.
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The Androinc.net Project suggests that the Milestone isn't cracked yet. I'm donating some of my cpu cycles to the project. Hopefully a Milestone solution will carry benefits for the DEFY.
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I was under the impression the project had folded but it seems not.
Downloaded and installed the project, happy to let my PC contribute while it's not in use.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/motorola-milestone-joins-the-gingerbread-gang/
if the milestone bootloader isnt cracked , can somebody explain how this is possible
Presumably through the same method they did Froyo ROMs before the official Froyo kernel leaked - my understanding was that it was just Froyo with the Eclair kernel.
I imagine this is Gingerbread with a Froyo kernel?
I don't expect DEFY's bootloader to be unlocked any time soon, and I don't believe for a second that Motorola will give access to it as they claimed after the initial PR disaster of their employee who said they won't unlock it and if you want custom roms "you should buy elsewhere". That employee probably said the truth, just not in a PR friendly manner and their PR department had to do damage control after it. The incident is described here for those who don't know it yet.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/motorola-milestone-joins-the-gingerbread-gang/
if the milestone bootloader isnt cracked , can somebody explain how this is possible
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I don't understand this fully either, maybe someone can clarify? We all know that the bootloader is locked down, unlike other manufacturers. However we are still having custom roms being developed for Defy. I thought the whole point of an unlocked bootloader would allow flashing of custom roms, but we seem to be able to do this anyway. How is this possible with a locked bootloader? What advantage would unlocking the bootloader give us?
Locked Bootloader means that you can't boot an unsigned Kernel.
All the Custom rom you can find for the Defy are made from official and signed ROM, no Kernel mods etc . (These are just mod of actual rom, non "new ROM" from AOSP i.e.)
That's why you can't have a full custom ROM with Custom Kernel (unless Motorola release a ROM with this Kernel signed)
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I don't expect DEFY's bootloader to be unlocked any time soon, and I don't believe for a second that Motorola will give access to it as they claimed after the initial PR disaster of their employee who said they won't unlock it and if you want custom roms "you should buy elsewhere". That employee probably said the truth, just not in a PR friendly manner and their PR department had to do damage control after it. The incident is described here for those who don't know it yet.
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Everything gets cracked these days no matter how complicated, everything! I am just hoping that the Defy gets popular enough for someone to start a similar project as for the Milestone where we can crack the bootloader with bruteforce calculations. I wish I had enough knowledge about software, source code and such because for sure I would have dedicated my freetime to set this up!
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Everything gets cracked these days no matter how complicated, everything! I am just hoping that the Defy gets popular enough for someone to start a similar project as for the Milestone where we can crack the bootloader with bruteforce calculations.
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I wouldn't hold out hope for the brute force method. The Milestone crew over at androinc_net is having a hard time maintaining funding and is teetering on failure already.
Plus the best estimate for running all of the possible keys at their current rate is 4x10^12 years. In other words the second coming of the dinosaurs may occur before they crack that.
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Everything gets cracked these days no matter how complicated, everything!
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Not everything...
Some encryption are to strong to be forced. Today you just cant break some 256bit encryption just like that, it requiers to much computing power.
You may expect some master key leak (like for the HDCP, the BluRay, etc), but a brut force crack is really really hard to do (not impossible, but is it worth to play?).
What will be the result if the bootloader is cracked?
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What will be the result if the bootloader is cracked?
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Genuine custom ROMs.
Gingerbread without having to wait for a leaked Motorola signed ROM.
Step666 said:
Genuine custom ROMs.
Gingerbread without having to wait for a leaked Motorola signed ROM.
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that's cool, that means...
Better 3d performance? higher I/O Reads, Better CPU Performance, better camera compression...etc?
And the famous 1.4-1.5Ghz Overclock?
Android 2.2 VS 2.3, make's any sense in performance terms?
There are a group of guys trying to break the bootloader.
http://twitter.com/aliasxerog
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-x-hacks/93955-getting-custom-kernels-running-droid-x-28.html
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Motorola announced more information to come on the bootloaders yesterday via getsatisfaction.
Would realy great if it will be!
Maybe moto give us the sign key, so we can sign oure Roms for us with own kernel!
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I really don't think Moto will open the bootloader easily. Controlling the roms is important for them.
They can lock everything (Defy hardware) and impose the use of their apps (collecting informations).
Losing this is certainly not viewed as great by marketing.
Hi,
i am pretty much annoyed (and it's getting worse every day) about not able to root my device, without voiding the warranty.
I had made a decision, that i will never ever buy a new device again, before there is solution for rooting.
How about you?
schnurzelat
I'm really annoyed by their policy. I'm a student, I don't have enough money to just use HTC Dev tools and say goodbye to the fact my expensive device is gonna last at least two years.
I was expectin of course that I could not use warranty for a software problem that is totally understandable but after everything I saw on the forum I'm really angry against HTC.
So that is clear for me. It's my last HTC phone.
joplayer said:
I'm really annoyed by their policy. I'm a student, I don't have enough money to just use HTC Dev tools and say goodbye to the fact my expensive device is gonna last at least two years.
I was expectin of course that I could not use warranty for a software problem that is totally understandable but after everything I saw on the forum I'm really angry against HTC.
So that is clear for me. It's my last HTC phone.
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My device was unlocked and HTC in the UK replaced my screen under warranty. I re-locked, restored the stock recovery and ROM before sending it in.
I won't buy a HTC phone again.
My next phone is a Nexus Series.
I decided to root because i was assured by HTC Chat that it did not void ALL warranty, only issues that could be caused by software (rooting), so if any major hardware faults developed, it SHOULD still be covered under warranty
I'm not too fussed tbh, I'll wait for S-Off like a patient little boy.
HTC only allowed us to have S-Off through HTCDev because people were bugging them about it and they gave in.
They had to safeguard themselves against any backlash that might have come from N00bs bricking their devices and trying to claim for a new handset when it their own failures that fscked up their device anyway.
It's like Car Insurance, keep crashing your motor and expect to pay higher premiums... sooner or later you'll stop driving like a nob, understand what I'm saying?
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I'm not too fussed tbh, I'll wait for S-Off like a patient little boy.
HTC only allowed us to have S-Off through HTCDev because people were bugging them about it and they gave in.
They had to safeguard themselves against any backlash that might have come from N00bs bricking their devices and trying to claim for a new handset when it their own failures that fscked up their device anyway.
It's like Car Insurance, keep crashing your motor and expect to pay higher premiums... sooner or later you'll stop driving like a nob, understand what I'm saying?
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Well said,the HOX is not as easy to root as previous HTC mobiles so they have had to cover their own backs.
Why should HTC allow you a warranty when u rooted ur phone. HTC team did a fantastic job in Sense.
deakodude said:
Well said,the HOX is not as easy to root as previous HTC mobiles so they have had to cover their own backs.
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Thanks, naturally, as with all things technological, people fiddle with it and break things, fix things and improve upon things. HTC did a good job with Sense imho, if we want to detract from that and make our own alterations why should they provide us with a warranty? In their eyes Sense was a finished product.
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Why should HTC allow you a warranty when u rooted ur phone. HTC team did a fantastic job in Sense.
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Exactly! Overall, aesthetically, I really like Sense, it does have it's limitations however and is a resource hog, but it's a nice little eco-system that works well.
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Why should HTC allow you a warranty when u rooted ur phone.
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If I root and flash custom software on my phone I should have warranty on hardware issues such as the WiFi issue which has been proven to be a manufacturing defect. ie NOT caused by software.
It's like, buying a computer and running Ubuntu instead of Windows and then the manufacturer not covering a HDD replacement for a failed disk because of your OS. The only way hardware issues could be caused by the software is by overclocking the cpu and playing with voltages. There is no way in hell any other hardware issues could be caused by the software running on it especially bent pins affecting wifi antenna or assembly gaps to mention a few.
HTC not standing by warranty on these phones (especially when allowing us to unlock the bootloader) is criminal. Why allow us to unlock the bootloader if you can't do anything with it???
I am quietly waiting for the next nexus phone to be announced. I think I may sell my one x (which is the best phone I've ever owned) and go for a nexus. My last few phones have all been HTC but I have lost faith in the company and brand.
I think its a piss take HTC voiding part or whole of your warranty. If you went out and brought a brand new laptop and wanted to put Windows 8 on it, but you had to wait for let's say Acer to decide if the upgrade would work, to tweak and add useless programs and put a skin over it, OR void your warranty, have Windows 8 and never be allowed to send your laptop in for hardware errors, people would be pretty pissed off. These phones are mini computers. I believe they should be unlockable by 'fastboot oem unlock' which would mean full S-Off, anyway if your into loading ROMs and want a warranty. Don't buy this phone... Simple.
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There is no way in hell any other hardware issues could be caused by the software running on it especially bent pins affecting wifi antenna or assembly gaps to mention a few.
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On certain Samsung phones with certain emmc firmware in combination with certain ics kernel could permanently destroy the emmc if you did a full wipe/factory reset in cwm
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On certain Samsung phones with certain emmc firmware in combination with certain ics kernel could permanently destroy the emmc if you did a full wipe/factory reset in cwm
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That is quite poor from Samsung in my opinion.
i purchased the one x on release day - coming from the dhd i thought i was choosing the right phone for me. i loved changing roms and fiddling until i had a hard ware failure on the device.
i was suprised that htc had done this, i have always upgraded my phone until the dhd (nothing else really worth the upgrade until the one x was released) around 6-9 months of age (due to boredom most of the time).
I just know that my next phone will not have sense on - as much as i love sense i can live without it, but not having root makes the phone boring after a while. Its a shame as i love htc hardware, but not willing to lose warrenty on a device that could fail after so many months. My wife already has her name on my phone when i upgrade next so warrenty is still needed.
i think this is a dirty trick htc has done here and will only cost them as time goes on.
i fancy a plain android phone now as ics / jellybean looks so nice so sense wont be missed too much thinking about it, i can see a nexus coming in my near future when they release the next generation.
IMHO, i wouldnt have minded so much if htc gave the option to remove ALL bloatware inc sense - forcing programs such as suckbook and twatter with only the option to disable is pathetic, they should either give you the option to flash a vanilla rom or remove all bloat before making you void warrenty getting rid of the crap.
Please forgive the catchy title as well as my ignorance as while I have been around computing stuff for a long time, am kinda new to the Android stuff.
For me, I picked up a Samsung Strat II this summer, an have gotten a bit used to that, so just grabbed a 8.4 for Xmas as I have more uses for that, an would like to get that running as best as possible.
For the Strat II, I did root it with Towelroot an with no noticeable side effects, so understand the hows an why's of this.
But in reading the forums for the 8.4, have been seeing this thing about tripping the Knox from messing with the OS in anyways in regard to rooting.
From the little bit I have read, it seems to be some kind of root tripper, an would assume that voids any warranties too, but was wondering if some could explain it a bit more to me, an perhaps answer the following questions.
1: Does it in fact trip from a root an does this void the warranty?
2: This does not seem to be part of my Strat II OS, so is this something newer?
3: If indeed it is just a warranty thing, do I care once it's out of warranty? Which I think is one year?
4: Is it just a OS recording thing, or does it mess up the tab in anyway, software or hardware wise?
5: From what I have read, once tripped, its permanent an there is no way to reverse that even from a complete system reset, so is that true?
So those are just a few at the moment an again, please forgive my ignorance, but hey, if you don't ask, you don't learn.
Thanks for any help
if you used towelroot then you probably didn't trip knox, knox will trip if you use other root methods like cf-auto-root or flash custom firmwares like CM.
knox is a hardware fuse (at least on the snapdragon cpu) that once tripped cannot be undone as it actually modifies hardware kind-of like burning out a circuit and Samsung checks the flag to see if the device was tampered with and it will void warranty (though they may or may not make an exception depending on the issue like if something was hardware related they might still honor it).
TowelRoot uses a kernel exploit and doesn't mess with bootloaders ..etc , thus keeping knox happy
Thanks for the reply otyg, so can I use towelroot on my 8.4, or does this not work with something like this, or with this OS?
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Thanks for the reply otyg, so can I use towelroot on my 8.4, or does this not work with something like this, or with this OS?
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Towelroot only worked on ND1~ND3 Firmware on the tab pro 8.4 then the kernel was patched on newer firmwares--- so if your tab has a newer firmware it won't work anymore without some headaches.
Basically you need to flash the Kernel (not the full firmware) from ND3 root the tab with towelroot then swap the kernel back to the current firmware, and knox should stay at 0x0 .
One of the things that puzzles me is why did they even do this?
Seems that the customization that rooting is needed to be done for, is such a big part of why many buy these things?
Guess there is some that damage things by over clocking or something else, an then rest everything an try to claim warranty, but still gotta be a small amount as apposed to those who buy them as they can do all the software stuff to them.
Seems like they are trying to lock out a good amount of their customer base.
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One of the things that puzzles me is why did they even do this?
Seems that the customization that rooting is needed to be done for, is such a big part of why many buy these things?
Guess there is some that damage things by over clocking or something else, an then rest everything an try to claim warranty, but still gotta be a small amount as apposed to those who buy them as they can do all the software stuff to them.
Seems like they are trying to lock out a good amount of their customer base.
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It could be worse, the efuse(s) can be used for all kinds of things like completely locking the bootloader, luckily Samsung didn't go to that extreme
Yeah, I understand.
So by any chance otyg, do you know if regarding my question on anything else it might do, does tripping the knox do anything other then the hardfuse, an the reporting of it?
Does it effect the device in any other way?
Basically I tried the unit I have for just a little bit as I wanted to setup the basics before Xmas an make sure it would work with my WiFi, but all in all the unit ran pretty nice with just the way it was.
So I really even wonder if I want to root it, an then with this Knox thing, its deterring me even more.
But then too, I know some apps just really require it.
So kinda torn.
But if it does something else negative to the device other then what we have already discussed, might just leave it alone for the time being.
Btw, thanks for all the help so far.
There are benefits to rooting like being able to use your sdcard properly , I rooted mine, never tripped knox,
As with all rooting It's a risk if you do trip it it will probably void warranty, it could also brick your device if something goes wrong.
Another common problem I have been seeing is random reboots for people who have a tripped knox flag (this is due to software on the tablet that checks knox and somehow causes reboots, you can disable the software but still troublesome and doesn't work for everyone).
If you really want to root I would go with towelroot method, its the safest and less risk for triggering any knox problems.
you basically update your firmware to the latest version first, extract the kernel from the tar file, download the ND3 firmware extract the kernel, tar the kernel's , flash the nd3 kernel with odin, boot-up , towelroot, install supersu , reboot - switch back to download mode and re-flash the latest kernel)
Read through this thread too, some people have prepared standalone kernels to use if you don't want to do it yourself. you probably need ND3 (or ND1 will work) and K1 if your tablet is the XAR model.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786800
^ND1 kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...320xar1ank1-extracted-stock-firmware-t2954549
^K1 kernel
Thanks greatly otyg, will have to look into this more after the holidays, an thanks so much for the info
WBFAir said:
One of the things that puzzles me is why did they even do this?
Seems that the customization that rooting is needed to be done for, is such a big part of why many buy these things?
Guess there is some that damage things by over clocking or something else, an then rest everything an try to claim warranty, but still gotta be a small amount as apposed to those who buy them as they can do all the software stuff to them.
Seems like they are trying to lock out a good amount of their customer base.
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Because people mostly don't care and don't know.
If you don't like what they do, then don't support them. Stop buying their products, or buy used if you have to.
Personally, Samsung is the #1 company on my **** list, with Apple being a close 2nd, due to their policies towards their customers.
I only bought my 12.2 Note Pro because nobody else make anything in this class.
I already have Nexus 4 & 7. Xperia. And if I was shopping for a small tablet, I'd get the new Nexus (despite the HTC crappy quality lottery).
I also bought it used/refurbished, not new.
WBFAir said:
Yeah, I understand.
So by any chance otyg, do you know if regarding my question on anything else it might do, does tripping the knox do anything other then the hardfuse, an the reporting of it?
Does it effect the device in any other way?
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For this device, once you trip Knox you can no longer update firmware through the traditional methods, you have to do it manually through something like Odin or a custom recovery, as far as I can tell. Samsung recognizes that you've "modified" your device and will not let you update through official channels.
gidal said:
Because people mostly don't care and don't know.
If you don't like what they do, then don't support them. Stop buying their products, or buy used if you have to.
Personally, Samsung is the #1 company on my **** list, with Apple being a close 2nd, due to their policies towards their customers.
I only bought my 12.2 Note Pro because nobody else make anything in this class.
I already have Nexus 4 & 7. Xperia. And if I was shopping for a small tablet, I'd get the new Nexus (despite the HTC crappy quality lottery).
I also bought it used/refurbished, not new.
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I suspect it's to honor their high level contracts (like the govs, and fortune 500 company's) who need to keep the devices secure, knox is a good way to tell the customer their device could have been compromised, unfortunately it does effect normal users like us who like to tweak the devices a little .
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I suspect it's to honor their high level contracts (like the govs, and fortune 500 company's) who need to keep the devices secure, knox is a good way to tell the customer their device could have been compromised
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This is pretty much true, in my understanding. KNOX is aimed at enterprise users (company provided devices) as a means of ensuring the devices are kept in an "approved" or "compliant" configuration. Once a device is rooted, root can be hidden (as well as any number of changes made to the system) so it makes sense for IT departments to want a non-reversible hardware fuse to detect the device has been tampered (mainly by the employees).
Android hasn't had the widest adoption for enterprise use, mainly due to the open nature of the OS. So such security measures are an attempt at changing that perception.
Folks on here have argued that KNOX counter does not void the warranty, and its only purpose if for use along with the KNOX security software. Whether that is 100% true or not, I can't personally say.
Knox allows a device to be setup as two completely separate devices in one. One secured for business use the other for personal use. I tripped Knox immediately on mine when I rooted it.
Can i towelroot and install cm without knockig trox?
Hi,
I am with my STOCK G5 since a year. What to say. I recently switched to Evie Launcher, as it gives me a bit of edge over the stock Launcher3. I am quite disappointed in this phone, as my brother in law's E4 is much more fluid than my phone.
Would you recommend me to switch to a custom ROM? What are the advantages and what are the disadvantages?
What are the risks to brick the G5 ?
Thank you
Advantages
Latest version of android
No bloat pre-installed apps that are bundled with phones
Potentially greater available free internal storage space (depending on how much bloat there was)
More customisation through appearance/themes settings etc
Disadvantages
Will have to return to full stock if wanting to officially upgrade device
Device would need to be wiped before flashing roms
Some apps will not work if rooted (although you can use magisk to hide root but not guaranteed to be successful)
Bugs may be present in custom roms
There is always a chance to of bricking the device - normally this would only be a soft brick (bootloader still accessible)
As long as you don't touch the bootloader then you can always just flash another rom
Read threads fully before you begin
And of course, it voids your warranty, but in my opinion is worth it, custom roms allow for better speed and customisation.
Exanneon said:
And of course, it voids your warranty, but in my opinion is worth it, custom roms allow for better speed and customisation.
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That depends on the country you live in
In Europe (eec) it doesn't unless it can be proved your modification due to rooting caused the fault
Anything unrelated would still be covered
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That depends on the country you live in
In Europe (eec) it doesn't unless it can be proved your modification due to rooting caused the fault
Anything unrelated would still be covered
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Wow, really? I live in the UK, does the same apply here?
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Wow, really? I live in the UK, does the same apply here?
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Yes - the manufacturer may moan about it & refuse to fix it but the law states they have to prove the fault didn't already exist or is a direct cause of your modification.
Eg
If the volume buttons stop working because of a design flaw that shows a loose connection to the motherboard than this is covered
If the volume buttons stop working because you flashed a custom rom that's buggy then you tried to restore stock & mucked it up & your phone no longer boots than you're not covered
Wear & tear is normally excluded
Basically if it's hardware related you're normally covered
If it's software related & you're rooted you're probably not & that includes phones that no longer have a bootloader due to incorrect flash or upgrading of roms
The wiki entry for this explains
European Union
The Free Software Foundation Europe argues that it is legal to root or flash any device. According to the European Directive 1999/44/CE, replacing the original operating system with another does not void the statutory warranty that covers the hardware of the device for two years unless the seller can prove that the modification caused the defect.[39]
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The law Copyright and Related Rights Regulations 2003 makes circumventing DRM protection measures legal for the purpose of interoperability but not copyright infringement. Rooting may be a form of circumvention covered by that law, but this has not been tested in court.[34][40] Competition laws may also be relevant.[41] See also "European Union" section above.
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The USA is more complex - looks like its legal to root a phone but not a tablet but you can't root a phone that was made after 2013 if the purpose is to unlock it for use on another carrier lol & it goes on like that. Basically they have ammendments on top of ammendments on top of ammendments which makes it extremely complicated - even providing a rooting tool in America could be illegal as its not defined as being excluded from the copyright act.
Because non of these things have really been tested in court its just one big grey area
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Yes - the manufacturer may moan about it & refuse to fix it but the law states they have to prove the fault didn't already exist or is a direct cause of your modification.
Eg
If the volume buttons stop working because of a design flaw that shows a loose connection to the motherboard than this is covered
If the volume buttons stop working because you flashed a custom rom that's buggy then you tried to restore stock & mucked it up & your phone no longer boots than you're not covered
Wear & tear is normally excluded
Basically if it's hardware related you're normally covered
If it's software related & you're rooted you're probably not & that includes phones that no longer have a bootloader due to incorrect flash or upgrading of roms
The wiki entry for this explains
The USA is more complex - looks like its legal to root a phone but not a tablet but you can't root a phone that was made after 2013 if the purpose is to unlock it for use on another carrier lol & it goes on like that. Basically they have ammendments on top of ammendments on top of ammendments which makes it extremely complicated - even providing a rooting tool in America could be illegal as its not defined as being excluded from the copyright act.
Because non of these things have really been tested in court its just one big grey area
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I see, well thanks for taking the time for explaining to me anyway ^-^
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Wow, really? I live in the UK, does the same apply here?
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This is one of a wide range of areas in which EU membership has been enormously helpful to consumers. Not for much longer though since, in its wisdom, the UK will be turning its back on these protections over the coming 3 years.
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This is one of a wide range of areas in which EU membership has been enormously helpful to consumers. Not for much longer though since, in its wisdom, the UK will be turning its back on these protections over the coming 3 years.
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I for one am glad we are leaving the EU - These rules will still apply as all EU law will be implemented into UK law but of course they can be changed if our government decides to by debating & voting on new laws & it is right that our government that we vote for decides this & not unelected people in Brussels.
But that's enough of politics
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I for one am glad we are leaving the EU - These rules will still apply as all EU law will be implemented into UK law but of course they can be changed if our government decides to by debating & voting on new laws & it is right that our government that we vote for decides this & not unelected people in Brussels.
But that's enough of politics
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But then again I doubt many would fight for these things, but who knows.
Yes,
I started reading a bit about the different ROMs.
I can see the usual qualcomm fup job: firmare blobs never converted to 64bit, stuff only working on a single configuration and more.
Therefore I found out that the only thing really not working on custom roms is USB tethering (as per LineageOS 15 declaration), but it can be fixed with an external app.
What seems to be working but not completely is: FM Radio (but, please, prove me wrong if I am), Camera (the wrapper should be working, though).
What isn't extremely clear to me if the stock Lenovo ROM feature of OS navigation through fingerprint reader (a feature I reckon would be Oreo Stock) AND always on display (again, wasn't it a new feature of stock Oreo ?!) .
Last but not least, on a parallel thread there's a guy that says ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76406077&postcount=5 ) : if you go from 32bit to 64bit is fine. Going back will brick your device and/or lose your IMEI.
I hope to have summed up all known elements, if I haven't, please, help me.
Regards,
sweetsuicides
Is it possible to flash the latest Korean firmware update to a US unlocked S20 Ultra model?
I would wait for official OTA!
The frying pan may seem hot but the fire is way hotter!
cpufrost said:
I would wait for official OTA!
The frying pan may seem hot but the fire is way hotter!
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That's kinda what I figured,I'm just one of those flashing firmware via Odin between carrier firmware and unlocked firmware hoping they can kind of get a handle on all this Camera stuff or come out and say sorry we released the phone a little to soon and going to recall it until the issues are completely resolved.Wishful thinking on my part but if you're going to push the envelope to these extremes you might want to take as long as needed to iron out all the kinks.Don't get me wrong I Love the S20 Ultra,just wanting this phone to be the best that it can be.
We all want it to work properly but even though I am a flashing, repairing, backing up, modding guy, I do not recommend flashing it. Samsung must come out with a software update or a hardware update. They have a history of recalling and fixing their products and even though I am also angry about it, I am positive that a fix will come. We could debate about possible causes and the most logical is that they wanted to push the smartphone industry hard but the testing team did not do a great job with it. It could also be an industrial sabotage but let us not fall into that hole. I am also loving the phone just like my predecessor said but the bitter taste is still here and it shouldn´t be because it is a hardware masterpiece.