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[Q] To root or not to root that is the Question

I am seriously agonizing over whether or not to root my HOX, I have had a desire and rooted and flashed it to within an inch of its life and never had an issue, and its still going strong and running Shaky153's new ICS Sense rom.
My only concern is that I am unsure whether the HOX is as technically or physically robust as the Desire, and I keep getting the impression that it could breakdown at anytime, I'm not too bothered about physical damage as the phone is insured, but if it has to be returned to HTC I'm F*!£^%.
Please someone help me make this decision, should I root, if so why?
If not why?

Its totally up to you mate, but I will say that I had my HOX rooted a couple hours after purchasing it! And I love it!!

your decision mate...or wait for S-OFF..if you have a solid handset and no defects or issues with software then i would unlock it as by rooting this bad boy is the whole point of getting this phone. just do not forget about the bad stuff like voiding warranty though there is a couple of threads regarding this issue in the general section have a read through before unlocking...
Jonnibravo said:
I am seriously agonizing over whether or not to root my HOX, I have had a desire and rooted and flashed it to within an inch of its life and never had an issue, and its still going strong and running Shaky153's new ICS Sense rom.
My only concern is that I am unsure whether the HOX is as technically or physically robust as the Desire, and I keep getting the impression that it could breakdown at anytime, I'm not too bothered about physical damage as the phone is insured, but if it has to be returned to HTC I'm F*!£^%.
Please someone help me make this decision, should I root, if so why?
If not why?
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I would wait for s-off. I'm not going to fiddle with mine until that is achieved. In the meantime, my desire will handle my flash addiction .

Jonnibravo said:
If not why?
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You do know that it voids warranty, right ??
If you just got it, then wait at least a week, test everything properly and make sure there aren't any hardware faults/manufacturing defects.

I have always rooted my devices after few hours of purchases. Except this one x. I actually cant wait to try custom roms and use root apps like i always do but sense 4 is beautiful and enough to keep me away from modifying it. So i think, i can wait for s-off. Plus, hearing the defects here and there, it would actually worth it to wait. I only have this device for 5 days so nothing to be rushed.
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I would
It's totally up to you but I would root just for some root apps (completely remove system apps, etc.). You should always be able to unroot.

cronus101 said:
will handle my flash addiction .
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I'm starting to have withdrawals.....lol. My head is just going... I need to flash, I need to flash, and it's really getting hard not to be tempted and wait for S-OFF.

I wasn't planning to root but I'm tempted to now just for the sake of 2 things, the 3dot menu remover patch and the font changer.
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iximages said:
Its totally up to you mate, but I will say that I had my HOX rooted a couple hours after purchasing it! And I love it!!
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hahaha. same here. I'm still new to the flashing rom even using android phones (Coming from iOS) and yet i took the risk of rooting it and applying custom roms. ARHD is the best!!!

HTC One V Dead

So I bought my gf a one v and she loves it. One month after using it (stock, unrooted) it just went dead. Doesn't charge and doesn't get into bootloader (but not the QHSUSB_DLOAD and Blank Screen issue). Guy at repair told me that this was an issue with the ICS kernel causing a hard brick. Now, I naturally sent phone for repair since it is a warranty case. So far so good, lets just hope they get it done fast.
My question is though: should I root device and flash another ROM with presumably no such issues so I can avoid a future brick? I mean, I'm using a rooted desire and have no issues for over 2 years, now just didn't want to mess with the new phone of my gf and thought 'hey, lets keep it stock'... But the thought that it would die again after having it repaired is really discouraging. My gf is kind of frustraded and I don't want this to happen again. But are there such issues with custom ROMs for the One V? Like I said, I'm using the good old desire and don't know much about the one v, so I would really apreciate if you can tell me - because if such an issue is possible on custom roms, there is no point to bother flashing and voiding warranty.
Thanks for your time guys!

Well at the moment we have only modified stock ROM for this device and one custom kernel (in beta state) which is still an ICS kernel.
However you''ll never know whether this happens again or not. But one thing you can know for sure is that if you unlock the bootloader and install a custom kernel and ROM and it happens again then your are screwed because you lost your warranty.
Maybe you should wait a bit for some stable custom rom. Because an unstable and buggy ROM would make your gf even more frustrated and andgry

Oh well, thanks for the insight my friend..So, If I got this right, if I root and flash one of the current roms and it bricks again, I will still not be able to acces bootloader? And is this really a kernel issue with ICS? I'm willing to even flash a GB rom, if it is possible, in order to avoid this...gf won't mind for sure lol, if this delivers a stable phone in the future
P.S. Does this even happen with other ICS roms/on other stock ICS devices? Or did HTC just screw up on this one? I can understand a phone bricking when changing hboots or other tinkering, but just dieing like that is pretty damn stupid. And from what I read it happens to quite a few other one v users...Hope noone of you guys gets to experience this crap

falconyx said:
Oh well, thanks for the insight my friend..So, If I got this right, if I root and flash one of the current roms and it bricks again, I will still not be able to acces bootloader? And is this really a kernel issue with ICS? I'm willing to even flash a GB rom, if it is possible, in order to avoid this...gf won't mind for sure lol, if this delivers a stable phone in the future
P.S. Does this even happen with other ICS roms/on other stock ICS devices? Or did HTC just screw up on this one? I can understand a phone bricking when changing hboots or other tinkering, but just dieing like that is pretty damn stupid. And from what I read it happens to quite a few other one v users...Hope noone of you guys gets to experience this crap
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1. In no other galaxy, no other planet... IT IS NOT A KERNEL FAULT! it may at well be a piece of poorly made phone. you should get another one from the warranty. I can 100% say that you will not have any problems. The kernel doesn't suddenly causes hard brick to your phone. If it does, do you know how many phones running ICS are there? Or One V's...
I have flashed alpha/beta/final kernels/roms for millions of times, no problems whatsoever.
in no way this is a kernel/soft problem. more likely the flash drive from your gf's phone, died!

1ceb0x said:
1. In no other galaxy, no other planet... IT IS NOT A KERNEL FAULT! it may at well be a piece of poorly made phone. you should get another one from the warranty. I can 100% say that you will not have any problems. The kernel doesn't suddenly causes hard brick to your phone. If it does, do you know how many phones running ICS are there? Or One V's...
I have flashed alpha/beta/final kernels/roms for millions of times, no problems whatsoever.
in no way this is a kernel/soft problem. more likely the flash drive from your gf's phone, died!
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Thx dude, I was sort of wondering how this could really be a kernel problem, since the guy over at the repair told me so - 'Its a kernel issue with ICS'... well, I hope he was really wrong and the device we receive (hopefully soon) will be proper

falconyx said:
Thx dude, I was sort of wondering how this could really be a kernel problem, since the guy over at the repair told me so - 'Its a kernel issue with ICS'... well, I hope he was really wrong and the device we receive (hopefully soon) will be proper
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That guy should really make his homework. In no way a kernel can brick the phone. If this was true, the phone will not boot and work for weeks in the first place. Its not like the kernel has a "time-bomb" inside and it triggers when it is set.
As I said, it is a phone problem, something hardware has failed.
Hopefully it will be fixed for you gf and she will not have any problems in the future.

It happens in India too
My htc one v got bricked suddenly while using it. Forums at internet says it happens if battery charge goes below certain limit. Mine it went down to 24%

It happened to me when my battery level was 14%. now I have to pay 200$ for repairs. (because I live in Iran.)

HTC ONE V dead
falconyx said:
Oh well, thanks for the insight my friend..So, If I got this right, if I root and flash one of the current roms and it bricks again, I will still not be able to acces bootloader? And is this really a kernel issue with ICS? I'm willing to even flash a GB rom, if it is possible, in order to avoid this...gf won't mind for sure lol, if this delivers a stable phone in the future
P.S. Does this even happen with other ICS roms/on other stock ICS devices? Or did HTC just screw up on this one? I can understand a phone bricking when changing hboots or other tinkering, but just dieing like that is pretty damn stupid. And from what I read it happens to quite a few other one v users...Hope noone of you guys gets to experience this crap
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Hi My HTC one V just died , I didn't know how it was happened . 10 minutes before I made I call and just after sometime It stopped working .
Even it is not charging at all, mobile is out of warranty. don't really know what to do ..
Any suggestion would be appreciated .
Regards
Manoj

[Q] [POLL] Is it worth to root at the expense of loosing warranty?

I am thinking of installing custom rom on my phone for last few days. I know there is no S-off yet. So, i will be loosing my warranty after using HTCDev.com. Overall i am okay with stock rom, except overheating and wi-fi issues. You think any of the current rom will solve any of these issues and still be stable.
Is it worth to root now OR wait for S-off?
Are current custom ROMS for the HOX good enough for me to root and lose my warranty?

I voted YES! Why not?

trongnghia2411 said:
I voted YES! Why not?
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lol, cuz you probably lose your warranty ?

Is it worth to root at the expense of loosing warranty?
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The question you have to ask yourself, is do you want to take that risk?
you're potentially giving up a fully tested operating system and a safe guard against any potential hardware related problems down the track, for something that could be better / worse / same
That said, the warranty "MAY" be voided, doesn't mean it WILL (obviously it depends on alot of variables). You may not have any problems down the track, or the battery could superheat and melt through the phone casing

mcintoan said:
The question you have to ask yourself, is do you want to take that risk?
you're potentially giving up a fully tested operating system and a safe guard against any potential hardware related problems down the track, for something that could be better / worse / same
That said, the warranty "MAY" be voided, doesn't mean it WILL (obviously it depends on alot of variables). You may not have any problems down the track, or the battery could superheat and melt through the phone casing
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I unlocked. I rooted. Phone is now in repairs due to creaking and basically my whole phone was messed up. Phone was send with stock firmware and not locked. And they are still fixing it at no cost. So all under warranty. And will be rooting once I get it since my phone is unlocked
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2

mcintoan said:
The question you have to ask yourself, is do you want to take that risk?
you're potentially giving up a fully tested operating system and a safe guard against any potential hardware related problems down the track, for something that could be better / worse / same
That said, the warranty "MAY" be voided, doesn't mean it WILL (obviously it depends on alot of variables). You may not have any problems down the track, or the battery could superheat and melt through the phone casing
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Thats exactly my question in the first place. I would take a risk, no problem. But is it worth? I mean to ask, whether custom roms are that much better in terms of performance and solving issues such as overheating and wifi that i should root now and not wait for S-off?
Many Thanks for your responses.

veerm said:
Thats exactly my question in the first place. I would take a risk, no problem. But is it worth? I mean to ask, whether custom roms are that much better in terms of performance and solving issues such as overheating and wifi that i should root now and not wait for S-off?
Many Thanks for your responses.
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if you are worried about bloatware then you can disable the ones you do not want from settings-apps. that way bloatware gets disabled and phone runs more smoother..but if you are a flashsaholic then i still feel it deserves to root..but it is all about what you are after really and what you are use to

It would be easier for people to vote if your question was phrased as:
"Are current custom ROMS for the HOX good enough for me to root and lose my warranty?"

Its worth loosing your warranty, it will take still more months to s-off and even more and there may be chance for 1 year too. any way you are going to loose your warranty in one year.
Just loose your virginity and flash custom rom , it is fun to have custom rom in hox and it will show you some better performance.
and the recommended rom is charmeleon rom.
Did i say virginity , sorry warranty!

I heard its possible to unroot device, so you can get back your warranty.

Goku80 said:
I unlocked. I rooted. Phone is now in repairs due to creaking and basically my whole phone was messed up. Phone was send with stock firmware and not locked. And they are still fixing it at no cost. So all under warranty. And will be rooting once I get it since my phone is unlocked
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Actually real question for me is whether it is WORTH rooting for the custom roms available? Are custom roms that much better than stock in terms of performance as well as ironing out bugs such as overheating and wi-fi?
I do understand that HTC will probably honor the warranty (if needed), in case the cause is not root related.
Many Thanks...

junialum said:
It would be easier for people to vote if your question was phrased as:
"Are current custom ROMS for the HOX good enough for me to root and lose my warranty?"
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Thanks for suggestion, will edit my post...

veerm said:
Actually real question for me is whether it is WORTH rooting for the custom roms available? Are custom roms that much better than stock in terms of performance as well as ironing out bugs such as overheating and wi-fi?
I do understand that HTC will probably honor the warranty (if needed), in case the cause is not root related.
Many Thanks...
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Honest answer then yes. Worth rooting just for the performance as well and for custom kernels. current state of the kernels is messed up. Franco kernel has been cleaned up and reworked from source and well it is a beast of a kernel. i will say this again. my phone was unlocked and rooted. it is currently in repairs due to some manufacturers errors. it is all being covered by warranty and no mention that my phone is unlocked. so. only way to lose the warranty is if you overclock and the motherboard gets fried then yes the warranty is voided. but if you have like a screen that has came off or gap on either side and you still have your phone unlocked you are covered as it was not caused by any third party software.

Goku80 said:
Honest answer then yes. Worth rooting just for the performance as well and for custom kernels. current state of the kernels is messed up. Franco kernel has been cleaned up and reworked from source and well it is a beast of a kernel. i will say this again. my phone was unlocked and rooted. it is currently in repairs due to some manufacturers errors. it is all being covered by warranty and no mention that my phone is unlocked. so. only way to lose the warranty is if you overclock and the motherboard gets fried then yes the warranty is voided. but if you have like a screen that has came off or gap on either side and you still have your phone unlocked you are covered as it was not caused by any third party software.
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Goku80 said:
if you are worried about bloatware then you can disable the ones you do not want from settings-apps. that way bloatware gets disabled and phone runs more smoother..but if you are a flashsaholic then i still feel it deserves to root..but it is all about what you are after really and what you are use to
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I am not a big flashaholic. At least not yet
I am interested in custom roms mainly to see if it fixes overheating and poor wifi issues. Better performance could be bonus. So my question is narrowed down to (as we probe further), is there a rom i can install which will fix overheating and wifi while keeping it stable?
this is been very helpful, really appreciate it.

Serge.C said:
I heard its possible to unroot device, so you can get back your warranty.
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AFAIK, you can unroot it but it will say "Relocked" not "Lock". In other words HTC will know that you have rooted it at least once even if you are on the stock rom at that moment

I just returned my phone to Expansys for an exchange and it was unlocked.

Goku80 said:
Honest answer then yes. Worth rooting just for the performance as well and for custom kernels. current state of the kernels is messed up. Franco kernel has been cleaned up and reworked from source and well it is a beast of a kernel.
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Does it get hot on that kernel? I havent rooted because ive been thinking of sending this thing back for an exchange cause it keeps getting to 45 deg just when browsing 52-54deg when on 5min gaming. Since it seems like 8/10 HOX have the same issue either i root and get a rom that fixes it, or just send this back for a refund with seller.
PS: Not to mention i the left side of screen does pop out a bit i have to keep bending it in. but i can live with that for a while then just replace, but i cant live with a HOT Phone!!!!

droidpr said:
Does it get hot on that kernel? I havent rooted because ive been thinking of sending this thing back for an exchange cause it keeps getting to 45 deg just when browsing 52-54deg when on 5min gaming. Since it seems like 8/10 HOX have the same issue either i root and get a rom that fixes it, or just send this back for a refund with seller.
PS: Not to mention i the left side of screen does pop out a bit i have to keep bending it in. but i can live with that for a while then just replace, but i cant live with a HOT Phone!!!!
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Return it my friend. Or speak to them to find out why the phone is like that. And no my phone never gets hot. Kernel is just fine.
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Goku80 said:
Return it my friend. Or speak to them to find out why the phone is like that. And no my phone never gets hot. Kernel is just fine.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using Tapatalk 2
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+1 for sending it back. Screen flex can't be caused by a custom Rom so they should fix/replace no problem
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Not worth it.
Unless HTC confirm on HTCDEV that unlocking the bootloader will in no way void the warranty, I will not do it.
For me to do it, they need to specify in clear English that this act alone will not void warranty.
I can understand software faults due to custom roms, bricked devices or CPU GPU issues due to overclocking, but unlocking a bootloader alone shouldn't void it, nor should the use of a custom rom.
Alot of people will want to do it just to get superuser to use rooted apps & will want to keep using official HTC OS - it annoys me that this alone would void warranty.
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[Q] How annoyed are you, not having root? (w/o voiding the warrenty)

Hi,
i am pretty much annoyed (and it's getting worse every day) about not able to root my device, without voiding the warranty.
I had made a decision, that i will never ever buy a new device again, before there is solution for rooting.
How about you?
schnurzelat

I'm really annoyed by their policy. I'm a student, I don't have enough money to just use HTC Dev tools and say goodbye to the fact my expensive device is gonna last at least two years.
I was expectin of course that I could not use warranty for a software problem that is totally understandable but after everything I saw on the forum I'm really angry against HTC.
So that is clear for me. It's my last HTC phone.

joplayer said:
I'm really annoyed by their policy. I'm a student, I don't have enough money to just use HTC Dev tools and say goodbye to the fact my expensive device is gonna last at least two years.
I was expectin of course that I could not use warranty for a software problem that is totally understandable but after everything I saw on the forum I'm really angry against HTC.
So that is clear for me. It's my last HTC phone.
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My device was unlocked and HTC in the UK replaced my screen under warranty. I re-locked, restored the stock recovery and ROM before sending it in.

I won't buy a HTC phone again.
My next phone is a Nexus Series.

I decided to root because i was assured by HTC Chat that it did not void ALL warranty, only issues that could be caused by software (rooting), so if any major hardware faults developed, it SHOULD still be covered under warranty

I'm not too fussed tbh, I'll wait for S-Off like a patient little boy.
HTC only allowed us to have S-Off through HTCDev because people were bugging them about it and they gave in.
They had to safeguard themselves against any backlash that might have come from N00bs bricking their devices and trying to claim for a new handset when it their own failures that fscked up their device anyway.
It's like Car Insurance, keep crashing your motor and expect to pay higher premiums... sooner or later you'll stop driving like a nob, understand what I'm saying?

The-Last-Hylian said:
I'm not too fussed tbh, I'll wait for S-Off like a patient little boy.
HTC only allowed us to have S-Off through HTCDev because people were bugging them about it and they gave in.
They had to safeguard themselves against any backlash that might have come from N00bs bricking their devices and trying to claim for a new handset when it their own failures that fscked up their device anyway.
It's like Car Insurance, keep crashing your motor and expect to pay higher premiums... sooner or later you'll stop driving like a nob, understand what I'm saying?
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Well said,the HOX is not as easy to root as previous HTC mobiles so they have had to cover their own backs.

Why should HTC allow you a warranty when u rooted ur phone. HTC team did a fantastic job in Sense.

deakodude said:
Well said,the HOX is not as easy to root as previous HTC mobiles so they have had to cover their own backs.
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Thanks, naturally, as with all things technological, people fiddle with it and break things, fix things and improve upon things. HTC did a good job with Sense imho, if we want to detract from that and make our own alterations why should they provide us with a warranty? In their eyes Sense was a finished product.
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Why should HTC allow you a warranty when u rooted ur phone. HTC team did a fantastic job in Sense.
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Exactly! Overall, aesthetically, I really like Sense, it does have it's limitations however and is a resource hog, but it's a nice little eco-system that works well.

manoj971 said:
Why should HTC allow you a warranty when u rooted ur phone.
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If I root and flash custom software on my phone I should have warranty on hardware issues such as the WiFi issue which has been proven to be a manufacturing defect. ie NOT caused by software.
It's like, buying a computer and running Ubuntu instead of Windows and then the manufacturer not covering a HDD replacement for a failed disk because of your OS. The only way hardware issues could be caused by the software is by overclocking the cpu and playing with voltages. There is no way in hell any other hardware issues could be caused by the software running on it especially bent pins affecting wifi antenna or assembly gaps to mention a few.
HTC not standing by warranty on these phones (especially when allowing us to unlock the bootloader) is criminal. Why allow us to unlock the bootloader if you can't do anything with it???
I am quietly waiting for the next nexus phone to be announced. I think I may sell my one x (which is the best phone I've ever owned) and go for a nexus. My last few phones have all been HTC but I have lost faith in the company and brand.

I think its a piss take HTC voiding part or whole of your warranty. If you went out and brought a brand new laptop and wanted to put Windows 8 on it, but you had to wait for let's say Acer to decide if the upgrade would work, to tweak and add useless programs and put a skin over it, OR void your warranty, have Windows 8 and never be allowed to send your laptop in for hardware errors, people would be pretty pissed off. These phones are mini computers. I believe they should be unlockable by 'fastboot oem unlock' which would mean full S-Off, anyway if your into loading ROMs and want a warranty. Don't buy this phone... Simple.
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cosmicovertones said:
There is no way in hell any other hardware issues could be caused by the software running on it especially bent pins affecting wifi antenna or assembly gaps to mention a few.
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On certain Samsung phones with certain emmc firmware in combination with certain ics kernel could permanently destroy the emmc if you did a full wipe/factory reset in cwm

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On certain Samsung phones with certain emmc firmware in combination with certain ics kernel could permanently destroy the emmc if you did a full wipe/factory reset in cwm
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That is quite poor from Samsung in my opinion.

i purchased the one x on release day - coming from the dhd i thought i was choosing the right phone for me. i loved changing roms and fiddling until i had a hard ware failure on the device.
i was suprised that htc had done this, i have always upgraded my phone until the dhd (nothing else really worth the upgrade until the one x was released) around 6-9 months of age (due to boredom most of the time).
I just know that my next phone will not have sense on - as much as i love sense i can live without it, but not having root makes the phone boring after a while. Its a shame as i love htc hardware, but not willing to lose warrenty on a device that could fail after so many months. My wife already has her name on my phone when i upgrade next so warrenty is still needed.
i think this is a dirty trick htc has done here and will only cost them as time goes on.
i fancy a plain android phone now as ics / jellybean looks so nice so sense wont be missed too much thinking about it, i can see a nexus coming in my near future when they release the next generation.
IMHO, i wouldnt have minded so much if htc gave the option to remove ALL bloatware inc sense - forcing programs such as suckbook and twatter with only the option to disable is pathetic, they should either give you the option to flash a vanilla rom or remove all bloat before making you void warrenty getting rid of the crap.

Is the One X still a decent phone?

I'm upgrading from an old Gingerbread phone (ZTE Skate), on a budget of about 200€. The Nexus 4 unfortunately isn't an option, as it isn't available here and re-sellers are asking way too much for it.
Is the One X still a good option at that price?

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I'm upgrading from an old Gingerbread phone (ZTE Skate), on a budget of about 200€. The Nexus 4 unfortunately isn't an option, as it isn't available here and re-sellers are asking way too much for it.
Is the One X still a good option at that price?
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I'd say that was a fair price, I paid £185 (about 220 euro) for my second hox 6 months ago and it is still an excellent phone

Thanks! I'm really just worried about UI performance at this point. I'm aware of the issues with some games due to the Tegra chipset, but I'm not a big mobile gamer (maybe just Temple Run, some emulators etc.) so no problem there. On a custom ROM (or even stock), do you ever get lag or stutters in the UI? Things like scrolling through apps, pulling down the notification bar, and such.

you're always gonna get lag to a certain degree on any phone, I also use a nexus 7, an htc one and, dare I say it, an iphone 5s. I get a little lag on all of them sometimes and my hox is no better or worse than the others. as for roms, again, they all have the ups and downs. the best way is to try them or read the threads before you try and decide for yourself.

Sounds good to me. Thanks for the help. I'm fine with UI stutters if they're just an occasional thing like pretty much all other phones.

With sense5 the hox has became really competitive. The camera isn't as good as the sensation but for the price you get one of the best display out there. For 200€ definitively worth the money
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I am satisfied with my hox performance is very good.
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i think it's still a wonderful phone... and with custom rom it's better

Thanks for the replies! I guess I'm on the right track, then.
Oh, also, what's the situation with CID, HBOOT, locked bootloaders etc.? I haven't used an HTC phone before, so could some combination of those prevent me from flashing a ROM for some reason? I know you can only run a RUU if the CID matches, is that all?

omegavesko said:
Thanks for the replies! I guess I'm on the right track, then.
Oh, also, what's the situation with CID, HBOOT, locked bootloaders etc.? I haven't used an HTC phone before, so could some combination of those prevent me from flashing a ROM for some reason? I know you can only run a RUU if the CID matches, is that all?
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cid and main version also. and you can only run an ruu that matches or is higher than your main version. but you can flash a nandroid backup that is older, then ota up to the latest. if you are gonna try anything, first make sure you are on the highest possible version for your cid then make a nandroid backup in recovery and copy it to your pc when it's done.

Thanks! That's pretty much what I do with my devices anyway. There's no way I would do something major to my phone without making a nandroid first.
I'm just worried about getting a phone that's not hackable, incompatible with ROMs etc. for some reason. Is that something that can happen?

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Thanks! That's pretty much what I do with my devices anyway. There's no way I would do something major to my phone without making a nandroid first.
I'm just worried about getting a phone that's not hackable, incompatible with ROMs etc. for some reason. Is that something that can happen?
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well, it's not so difficult to install custom roms on HOX and there are many roms (in each thread you will find the instructions for flashing)

omegavesko said:
Thanks! That's pretty much what I do with my devices anyway. There's no way I would do something major to my phone without making a nandroid first.
I'm just worried about getting a phone that's not hackable, incompatible with ROMs etc. for some reason. Is that something that can happen?
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the hox, because it is s-on, is pretty near impossible to brick provided you are using stuff from the right forum, IE: this one. and there is an abundance of help available if you get stuck.

Oh, I get that. I'm just asking if there's something about a device that can make it completely incompatible with ROMs, due to an incompabitle HBOOT or whatever. Mainly because I see a lot of ROMs are only compatible with certain HBOOT values.

omegavesko said:
Oh, I get that. I'm just asking if there's something about a device that can make it completely incompatible with ROMs, due to an incompabitle HBOOT or whatever. Mainly because I see a lot of ROMs are only compatible with certain HBOOT values.
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at the minute hboot 1.72 is causing some people problems, but only because they don't read and search properly. it causes a problem with touch but the simple solution is to flash a compatible recovery like the newest or repacked twrp or philz touch recovery, and cm10.2 needs a line edited or deleted to make it compatible with the hboot. so if you get one take note of that. apart from that everything else runs as you would expect. simple rule is read, read again and read a third time just in case you missed something. have fun

Great, thanks for all the help. Looks like I'll be joining you guys as soon as I manage to sell my current phone.

omegavesko said:
Great, thanks for all the help. Looks like I'll be joining you guys as soon as I manage to sell my current phone.
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