Develop Bugs

Modified Icons for Kaiser Home Plugin

Hello all,
You may have seen my earlier thread with the modified color clock digits for the HTC Home Plugin. Well, I just can't leave well enough alone! This started off as JUVS color version of the Kaiser Home Plugin. I took some of the icons from JUVS version and some from Schaps. Then I made the 'unselected' ones dark and lit up the selected one with a bright spotlight. I also changed the house colors a bit and turned it to face the other side. Just didn't seem right with a blue roof . I like it better now and I hope you do too, see screenshots attached.
To install:
First install JUVS Kaiser Home Plugin, color version, see the CAB file later in this thread. Then go in and make sure the plugin is unchecked in Settings, Today, Items. Make a backup of the HH_FW*.* and HH_HOME*.* files in your Windows folder for safe keeping. Then copy the contents of the ZIP file attached to the Windows folder on your device (not the zip itself, extract the contents) replacing the same-named files. Reselect the plugin and take it for a spin. Love it? Good! Hate it? Restore the original set of icons and associated files or reinstall.
By the way, the colored clock digits I made for the original HTC plugin work perfectly here too. Copy them over the same way if you like. You can find them in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314510
And, that reminds me, I figured out the bezel issue affecting some of the icons in the files I put out for the original HTC Home Plugin. For those who were bugged by that issue I am attaching a bezel fix ZIP file that will correct the issue and leave a nice transparent icon background in keeping with the them of that set of files. You could use this fix on this Kaiser version as well and it will remove the spotlight from the selected item without affecting the colors and brightness/darkness differentiating selected and unselected. You just have to see it to see if you like it.

Is this for Hermes or Kaiser? This is posted in the Hermes WM6 forum.

Yes!
This applies for both actually, but I'm using it on a HERMES, running the Kaiser HTC Home Plugin. See the 5 tabs instead of 3? If you want it, look for JUVS version in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316107

gmgonzal, great work again! Thanks!!!

i'm trying to copy over the files in vista but i can't seem to... do i need to do this via the phone?

nevermind, stupid vista won't let you extract from an explorer view of a zip file

so the spotlight for each tab seems to show the old black/white icon when it is selected... going to try to recopy the files again.

That's because...
absolutg said:
so the spotlight for each tab seems to show the old black/white icon when it is selected... going to try to recopy the files again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is meant as a mod for the JUVS color version of the Kaiser Home Plugin. It brings the color icons that you are missing. You should install that first, then copy these icons over. I'm including the CAB file here in case others need it also...

do you know if this has the fixes included in the version posted on pg 6 of the original thread? thanks!

works well now. was wondering if you could do the spotlight with a transparent backgd instead of the gray? looks better with the default ATT them. thanks!

Here you go
absolutg said:
works well now. was wondering if you could do the spotlight with a transparent backgd instead of the gray? looks better with the default ATT them. thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess I could , I wanted to do that next myself, it takes more effort to clean up the graphics for that. Check back...

This is great, thanks! Removing the bevel was part of the things I wnated to change about this plugin. What I would really love to be able to do now is completely remove the useless highlight that appears over the icons when they are selected - is this possible?
edit: just to be clear from the post above ... the highlight I mean is not contained in the images, I mean the OS highlight that appears over the images themselves when selected.
Also, for me personally, it would be great to be able to change the colour of the font used - if I change the colour of the clock images, then the font stay white which looks inconsistent to my fussy brain!
Thanks for any help with the highlight thing though.

good work, works well ! thank you!

I know what you mean
drblow said:
What I would really love to be able to do now is completely remove the useless OS highlight that appears over the images themselves when selected.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That highlight pi$$es me off too, what I always wanted to do was have the icons in greyscale and then make them bright color when selected, with no highlight around them. But that highlight seems to be built into the code. As far as the text color, Zoharbl said in my previous thread that you can change the text color for each Today screen item with a program called Today Agenda, but I haven't tried it to see if it works on the text on the top of the HTC Plugin. Here's a link if you want to try it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44083&d=1184589532

You're welcome
ratcom said:
good work, works well ! thank you!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Glad you liked it.

gmgonzal said:
That highlight pi$$es me off too, what I always wanted to do was have the icons in greyscale and then make them bright color when selected, with no highlight around them. But that highlight seems to be built into the code. As far as the text color, Zoharbl said in my previous thread that you can change the text color for each Today screen item with a program called Today Agenda, but I haven't tried it to see if it works on the text on the top of the HTC Plugin. Here's a link if you want to try it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=44083&d=1184589532
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the reply. That's exactly what I want to see aswell! I'll try that app & let you know if it works.

interesting idea

no more blue on the Kaiser DIaler

I didn't particularly care for the blue on the Kaiser dialer, so, I changed it. Figured one or two of you all might like what i did. Sorry if some think this is a useless thread creation. Hope some enjoy. Simply copy the attached four files to your windows directory on your phone. Soft reset and voila!, no more blue.... be sure and back up the files on your phone if you want to go back to blue.
J~
Note: The png files are "hidden" files... you may have to "show hidden files" on your computer in order to have them show up. I didn't mess with the attributes as I didn't want to screw up the dialer. Will attach screen shot in next post.

screenshots
Here are screen shots of the blue-less dialer..
and, you need the two "other" files attached to this post... sorry, missed these two.

Thanks man

How dare you waste my bandwidth with garbage like th...no wait...it's really cool - I hate that blue!
Cheers man
Smiffy.

great
This is really great, I hate that blue screen..
Thanks

Colour gradient
You da man. The blue just does not go with JJ Black.
Now as your next assignment, can you make the new gray screen have the same kind of diffused colour gradient as the original blue one rather than just being flat grey?
In case I'm not explaining myself properly, I mean that the original blue screen was lighter in the middle of the screen and gradually got darker towards the edges. Then your creation would be just perfect.
Thanks a million.

can't copy
I can't copy the files to the windows folder on my phone.. how do I do that?

Use gsfinder (or do it from activesync--->explore like i did works fine but you need to reset your phone afterwards
Smiffy.
BTW, I like the grey just as it is - the getting darker at the edges thing made the box look "smaller" and manky
Anyway, I've got what i want here so ta

Alphanuma 0.9 an Alpha-Numeric Display [Deprecated, 1.0 released]

Do you miss knowing which letters are on which numbers, like when dialing a number from a business? Like, "Call Now! 1-800-YES-YEAH" Here's the fix for Kavana/Ricky/HTC based ROMs.
This is a mod of Surreal Networks Alpha-Numeric Display patch (grey), without the T-Mobile Branding:
Now, with correct spelling. (Hey it was late!)
download BRANDING.GIF
place in the Windows folder
browse to it with resco explorer
rename to ms_mobile.gif, confirm
May require rebooting. You are welcome to modify this, make into a .cab or desktop installer.
UPDATE April 4: Newest version, no branding, simpler install, and works on both the in-call and dialer screens here! Or jump to page three for preview.
UPDATE April 18: One Point Zero release here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2129954#post2129954

Thanks, that's great. Although, you spelled Excalibur wrong...

Thanks a ton! This is a great help!

Nice but I was wondering how the hell to get the panel AFTER you make a call to show the numbers on Kavana's 6.1. Like automated service tells you to put in your name or whatnot on the dialpad....

dialpad cab minus excalibur branding
attached is the same dialpad without the Excalibur branding.
install cab, reboot, enjoy.
thanks to Ben Hirashima for the cab

MountainDrew said:
Thanks, that's great. Although, you spelled Excalibur wrong...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fixed!
Now, I am analyzing how to make a slicker package from Ben's example.

Yianaki said:
Nice but I was wondering how the hell to get the panel AFTER you make a call to show the numbers on Kavana's 6.1. Like automated service tells you to put in your name or whatnot on the dialpad....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure. I will look into it. I suppose it could be added to the top of whatever image is in the "next" screen?

So it's only in one colour, and it might not match your blues, but I'll share the one I made for my phone if any of you like it.

I made one too

Windows standard colors
Here are original ones for each of the default colors and Segoe text. No Branding. Included one in grey, too!
Anyone else having a problem with the automatic alpha-num installers with a cooked ROM?

I like the one with T-mobile Branding. It makes the rom feel more official. (Extracted from the Surreal Networks CAB)

ygb said:
I like the one with T-mobile Branding. It makes the rom feel more official. (Extracted from the Surreal Networks CAB)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am working on a complete suite of not T-Mobile Branding, trying to figure out the splash screens at the moment. I just cant dig the pink T; Ive tried! Been cruising the other forums for clues...

It seems that the Ben dialpad works on the in-call screen, but I cant simulate the behavior if i uninstall his cab and manually it the reg. What keys do others use to change background on the in-call screen? IT really needs some livening up anyway.

Profezza said:
It seems that the Ben dialpad works on the in-call screen, but I cant simulate the behavior if i uninstall his cab and manually it the reg. What keys do others use to change background on the in-call screen? IT really needs some livening up anyway.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just one key...but it has to point to a file that exists. So if you've extracted the .gif file from the .cab / make sure you drop the .gif file in the windows directory and note what the .gif filename is as thats what you're going to put in the regitry entry...also make sure you soft-reset otherwise it won't change until then.
And as far as the in call screen is concerned ... look for a file in \windows directory named cprogback_land.png for your in-call screen
Here's the one that i use: It looks good with technology's another blue color scheme .......Just rename the extention from .jpeg to .png if you want to use it

nice tip! thanks!

pudgedaddy said:
...And as far as the in call screen is concerned ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It appears that that file is hard-coded, so there is no way to mod the reg with the installer, but it looks like windows mobile's .cab-install system will back things up alright from a file replacement approach. So, a single installer for both is do-able.
Interestingly, the image I am overwriting is called Carrierlogo.gif, not cprogback_land.png. Are there two potential images retrieved for the call screen, one in the fore and one in the back? I wonder what I could do with that info...
Or, maybe it is named differently in different source roms with the same purpose. Will text that next.

boom, got it
So, I think i this is how the in-call graphics work:
It appears that the call screen does indeed call up two images (not including a contact thumb, if applicable) The background is hardwired as "cprogback_land.png". Also, instead of having the carrier text string at the top, it can have an image across the top, which is hardwired as "carrierlogo.gif". Nothing can be done, as far as I can tell, to change the pointers to other files, so overwrites are the only method of changing.
If the graphic is put inside the background image itself, it can be the full width of the screen, like any background, and likewise any height (up to 213) But the in-call screen is a bit busy.The top 24 pixels (after the window top) are reserved for the carrier branding text string (or image), followed by 2 blank rows of pixels and a horizontal rule at row 27. The next 88 pixels (the middle area is a call status area followed by another rule at row 116, and pressed digits fill the bottom area.
However, if the graphic (.gif only) is in the foreground, it can be any size and proportion, but if it is taller than 24 pixels, or wider than 311 pixels, it will be (UPDATED) scooted over four pixels and cropped to fit a box of those dimensions at the top. If it is smaller, it will be top-, then left-aligned. Either way, if it is there, it replaces the carrier text string, rather than having to be designed around it. One thing to keep in mind, if using this method is that it has to be 10 pixels narrower than the image that might be used on the dialer screen, or it will "shrink" when you switch screens, if you want them to "match".
If anything is unclear, or anyone has any details to add, or corrections to make, please let me know! Thanks

pudgedaddy said:
Just one key...but it has to point to a file that exists. So if you've extracted the .gif file from the .cab / make sure you drop the .gif file in the windows directory and note what the .gif filename is as thats what you're going to put in the regitry entry...also make sure you soft-reset otherwise it won't change until then.
And as far as the in call screen is concerned ... look for a file in \windows directory named cprogback_land.png for your in-call screen
Here's the one that i use: It looks good with technology's another blue color scheme .......Just rename the extention from .jpeg to .png if you want to use it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks a lot pudgedaddy we definitely needed better visuals for the call in screen. Does anyone else have any other variations of screens like this laying around?

killswitch said:
...Does anyone else have any other variations of screens like this laying around?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One could be made by renaming any wallpaper that would work on the home screen.
I am working on a png one that blends seamlessly with a floating .gif dialpad right now. Must test it out tho'

Here is a trio of images to bring a consistent and mellow dialpad feature to BOTH the dial and incall screens.
Directions

Background4AllTabs, Photoshop & Pixelcounting

hi,
i wanted to create my own background-theme, and this thread was very helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3062019&postcount=54
(you need the Background4AllTabs "5c9aa261_manila" & "4a087e41_manila" from NisseDILLIGAF)
the problem was, i had a circle in the picture, and every time it was stretched or squashed, wrong aspect ratio, not fitting well. so i did a little research myself - pixelcounting fun.
conclusion:
1. crop your original-pic (maybe 800x480) to 700x480 (the real background size, 50 px from the top and 50 px from bottom)
2. create an new empty 512x512 file
3. resize your 700x480-pic to 512x460, squash squash squash (!)
4. paste it in the empty 512x512 on the left side(!) leaving an empty unused bar of 52px on the right side
5. do all steps from the link above to convert it for manila
nothing stretched or squashed anymore. full circles.
FINAL note:
this method works only for NisseDILLIGAF's *5c9aa261_manila* that came from the diamond. it works, but it also has the blackhole problem.
bbonzz's method (look below) works for http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3068310&postcount=60 (blackhole solution).
both have no problems with nocurtains-mod. baah, too much confusion about the manila files...

Actually the background is 480x636 (image 1), because of the top curtain hole in background4alltabs.
So, to keep the aspect ratio, what you have to do is more simple:
1) cut you 480x800 (image 2) to 480x636 (image 3) keeping 52 px from bottom (bottom bar) and 112 from top (top bar+top curtain)
2) stretch to 460x512 (image 4)
3) add a 52px transparent (or whatever: black, white... It will be invisible anyway) canvas to the right (image 5)
voilà, you have a pic for Manila Editor, and once installed on Blackstone, Manila will resize it back to the original 480x636, without distortion and without shifting a single pixel. You can verify this by using the original 480x800 as background for the home tab (image 1): switching tabs, you'll notice the image is still the same: no movements, no distortions.

do you guys have a problem with a black hole at the top of the background in sound settings on the settings tab ?

check this!
hi bbonzz,
i tried your version and it does not match. check the attachment.
manila stretched the logo and it ended up as an egg.
the best way is to compare the original (800x480) as homescreen-background against the manila version background in the other tabs. that was the game i was playing. after several try&errors i found it. the mapping-coordinates for the manila-background in my tf3d background4alltabs is 700x480. 50px less reserved for the top-taskbar and 50px less reserved for the softbutton-bar at the bottom.
manila stretches the left space of the 512x512 texture (512x460) to 700x480 perfectly and the aspect ratio of the original is back.
by the way, the black hole is still a problem, but doesn't bother me.

maybe it depends on which 5b9aa261 are you using: on my HD (with the "corrected and not the original 5b9aa261), using the same try&error way, i have the perfect fit with the 480x636 thing, as you see in the screenshot. Later i'll try with your attachment

ok, i forgot to mention that "nocurtains" is installed on my hd. maybe thats the reason why you got 636 px instead of 700 px.

4a087e41_manila
Hi sir AlecDelorean and other member can you make me a 4a087e41_manila with my attach file, thanks advanced...

please test this
hi p_elmenzo,
do yo have the 2 files from background4alltabs already installed?
if yes, here you go. don't forget to backup you original manila files.
don't blame me if something goes wrong
and please compare your original pic as background for the homescreen against the new background in the other tabs. if anything moves, or looking stretched, send me a screenshot.

4a087e41_manila
Thank you very much AlecDelorean...
Grazie Mille AlecDelorean...

4a087e41_manila
Hi, again AlecDelorean i have a small problem when i change my tab the background image has change maybe the pixel of the image.

i know, its a problem of the image-compression/conversion in manila-editor. when i have time, i add a little grain in photoshop to trick the compression-algorithm.

4a087e41_manila
Ok Thanks a lot...

here you go again
ok, did some tests. i don't know much about the converting process of the manila editor, but it seems it reduces a lot of bandwidth of the colorspace combined with very rude compression. so by example - gradients loose a lot of quality, instead of other more colorful pictures where the difference of every neighbor pixel is higher. maybe its the 3d-texture method htc is using, they try to save as much memory as they can. an interesting thing to notice (compare your screenshots with the original pic), there is an converting-process included in tf3d by itself, but only for the homescreen, when you choose an own picture for the homescreen background - tf3d crops it, adds grain and compression.
enable your background of the homescreen back to standard, because the manila-background is the background4alltabs now and you can't see the difference anymore if you switch from homescreen-tab to the others.

4a087e41_manila
Hi, AlecDelorean do you have the original file of 4a087e41_manila and 5c9aa261_manila? thanks a lot.

haha
tired of messing around with the backgrounds?
you need only one. 4a087e41_manila is a new image file for background4alltabs, 5c9aa261_manila is a script that was changed.

Hey AlecDelorean, can you do this for me as well.. Thanks!

I have just one question...
HOW do i get rid of the black curtain on top of the screen??
please please please say me how!!!

In nearest future we wont use this method. A real background for all pages done.

mun_rus said:
In nearest future we wont use this method. A real background for all pages done.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Our saviour is back! Hope your feeling well now..

@ ArchonX
ArchonX said:
I have just one question...
HOW do i get rid of the black curtain on top of the screen??
please please please say me how!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hey ArchonX,
this is the version of NoCurtains that is working for me:

[APP] Theme Switcher Version 1.6 [2 Feb 2010]

I couldnt find an app so I wrote one.
This small app will give you the option to Save your current Settings or rather Mods to Manila/Sence or whatever you call it.
Im no good at graphics so I need someone to give me ideas on how to make it look better.
It will scan the windows folder for all *manila files that has a different date to the original Rom installation. It will take all these files and backup them to a specified folder. So when you flash and you had special clocks,icons,sliders, etc etc you can simply restore it instead of having to reapply all these custom items.
O yes please install on the Storage Card. Might waste too much space on the Internal memory.
I tested it and seems ok but all apps has bugs so please be nice. Leme know if any body wants the source code. Written in C# VS2008
Version 1.1
Please uninstall the old version. I changed the name to Theme Switcher so it will install into a different folder. You can just move the Backup Folder Across. Got some nice graphics and changed the wallpaper. The Config.txt file have some settings in it. Have a look.
Also Any files listed in extrafiles.txt will be backed up and restored as well so one can easily backup the current wallpaper etc
Version 1.4
Just added an Image so if you add a file by the name of "theme.jpg" in the folder where its backed up to it will show the image before you can apply it
Im sorry I re Uploaded the Cab File forgot to include the txt files.
If the Application Icon didnt show in the start menu its been fixed as well. Please show me some screen shots on a diamond
Version 1.5
Rebuild Cab file
- Icon Shows correctly
- All files included
- Added option to Exit without refreshing TF3D
Version 1.6
- Small Graphical changes
- Added following entries to extrafiles.txt which should backup the taskbar etc as well:
top.png
bottom.png
hdwall_softkeybar.png
hdwall_taskbar.png
homebackground.img
BT Discoverable.bmp
BT On Mode.bmp
BT Stereo headset.bmp
GPS-icon Mask.bmp
GPS-icon.bmp
HTCVolumeControl.dll
MMSRes_480x800.dll
outres.192.dll
phcanOverbmp.dll
shellres.192.dll
Stereo headset.bmp
tapres.192.dll
notify.dll.0409.mui
notify.dll.040C.mui
CDMA_RSSI_PPC.dll
WLMMessengerResources.192.dll
Stereo headset Mask.bmp
tshres.192.dll
PictureMailRes.dll
BT Stereo headset Mask.bmp
BT Discoverable Mask.bmp
BT On Mode Mask.bmp
shellres.192.dll.0409.mui
VoiceCmdRes_PPC.dll
htcStartMenuService.dll
LargeTitleBar.dll
NotificationManager.dll

Spare
Just a spare post incase of sumting

Move
Can a Mod please move this thread to Software development please

THANK YOU
Grumps, great job I love this app. Simple and works great.
I will be using it, not only as a theme saver, but also as a theme changer.
I just tried it to switch themes and it worked great.
I haven't used it much yet, so I don't have much feedback.
The only thing that I have come across that needs fixing is that the drop down list for the restore saved theme.
It is hidden behind the restore saved theme button.
Everything else works great.
Thank you so much.

Wouldnt i be nice to save phcanover & the other dlls with icons, too?
Seems to be a great app that will save me a lot oft time,
thx³
Greetz
Boris

howzeet
Phonatic said:
Grumps, great job I love this app. Simple and works great.
I will be using it, not only as a theme saver, but also as a theme changer.
I just tried it to switch themes and it worked great.
I haven't used it much yet, so I don't have much feedback.
The only thing that I have come across that needs fixing is that the drop down list for the restore saved theme.
It is hidden behind the restore saved theme button.
Everything else works great.
Thank you so much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what phone did u try it on . i made it on my rhodium. if its a vga device ill fix it. have a diamond as well that ill try it on

borisku said:
Wouldnt i be nice to save phcanover & the other dlls with icons, too?
Seems to be a great app that will save me a lot oft time,
thx³
Greetz
Boris
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i can do that if you can gimme a list of the files. or maybe i can create a text file and one can list all the files in there that it should include in the backup? does anybody know which files contain the wallpaper and the top and bottom bar. guess its called the taskbar. the ones thats part of the top icons and bottom buttons. then it could be a complete theme changer. i use it as that as well

Grumps, thanks for the app. I believe that I am having the same condition that Phonatic describes. I have a Rhodium with stock rom, manilla 2.1.
But that shouldn't matter, should it?
My screenshot has differences from yours, aside from the bottom bar difference between your sense and my manilla.
Mine has the top task bar and less space between the drop-down list and the "restore saved theme" button.
Also mine has nicer looking buttons.
Do I have the wrong version?
When you have more items in your drop down list, does your list stay above the button?
I still am using it. I just use my arrow down/up to make my selection.

Grumps, as a suggestion to fix the problem that I have,
would it be easier to adjust the layout?, than to change the drop down to render in front of the buttons.
Something like this.
Also, since you asked for graphic suggestions, what do you think about making all the buttons have the same look.
Another suggestion is for your startup.jpg.
Instead of your screenshot, which is very nice, how about something that displays the program name and authored-by info.
With a "tap screen to proceed" kinda instruction placed somewhere.
Here are quick mock-ups of the idea that I am trying to convey.
I'm actually using it for your app, they look good on my Rhodium, much better than this screen shot.
I used screenshots from this site to make these mock-ups. Thanks to the OPs.
If anyone minds that I used their image, please let me know and I will replace it.
Anyway, just some food for thought.
Thanks again for the great app, Tilt

This awesome and such a time saver, thank you so much! One thing is I can not delete theme i have saved, I store on storage card but it says I can not delete it is denied other than that it is exactly what I have been looking [email protected]

Thank you for this program!

Tilt ommarow said:
Grumps, as a suggestion to fix the problem that I have,
would it be easier to adjust the layout?, than to change the drop down to render in front of the buttons.
Something like this.
Also, since you asked for graphic suggestions, what do you think about making all the buttons have the same look.
Another suggestion is for your startup.jpg.
Instead of your screenshot, which is very nice, how about something that displays the program name and authored-by info.
With a "tap screen to proceed" kinda instruction placed somewhere.
Here are quick mock-ups of the idea that I am trying to convey.
I'm actually using it for your app, they look good on my Rhodium, much better than this screen shot.
I used screenshots from this site to make these mock-ups. Thanks to the OPs.
If anyone minds that I used their image, please let me know and I will replace it.
Anyway, just some food for thought.
Thanks again for the great app, Tilt
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow I like this. Think its a good idea. Maybe I should change the Name to Them Switcher. Dont you wanna do the images for me with the name Theme switcher? I dont know quote how to do all this but ill try and make graphics work as button thingys. Leme see what I can do.

Tilt ommarow said:
Grumps, thanks for the app. I believe that I am having the same condition that Phonatic describes. I have a Rhodium with stock rom, manilla 2.1.
But that shouldn't matter, should it?
My screenshot has differences from yours, aside from the bottom bar difference between your sense and my manilla.
Mine has the top task bar and less space between the drop-down list and the "restore saved theme" button.
Also mine has nicer looking buttons.
Do I have the wrong version?
When you have more items in your drop down list, does your list stay above the button?
I still am using it. I just use my arrow down/up to make my selection.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool ill fix this

Thanks
Grumps said:
Cool ill fix this
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will patiently wait for the fix. It still works as is.
By the way I like the taskbar showing on top.
Would you please do me the honor of putting this Startup.jpg on your Rhodium.
I just want you to see how it looks on the phone.
The screenshot just doesn't do it justice.
@anyone that wants to see how this looks on the phone, just right click on the image,
save as Startup.jpg and use it to replace the one in your phones Theme Saver folder.

Tilt ommarow said:
I will patiently wait for the fix. It still works as is.
By the way I like the taskbar showing on top.
Would you please do me the honor of putting this Startup.jpg on your Rhodium.
I just want you to see how it looks on the phone.
The screenshot just doesn't do it justice.
@anyone that wants to see how this looks on the phone, just right click on the image,
save as Startup.jpg and use it to replace the one in your phones Theme Saver folder.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ihave and I am using it. Im batteling to make it look right on Windows 6.5 and 6.5.3 because of the topbar being smaller and bigger. Can you also give me one without any writing eg theme switcher and save/restore/switch and press any key. Trying to use it as a background image for the app and moving the controls to the menu items

Grumps said:
Ihave and I am using it. Im batteling to make it look right on Windows 6.5 and 6.5.3 because of the topbar being smaller and bigger. Can you also give me one without any writing eg theme switcher and save/restore/switch and press any key. Trying to use it as a background image for the app and moving the controls to the menu items
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will alter it however you like.
I have time tommorow. For now I must get 3hours sleep before I go to work.
Here is a background.
Goodnight, Tilt ommarow

Tilt ommarow said:
I will alter it however you like.
I have time tommorow. For now I must get 3hours sleep before I go to work.
Here is a background.
Goodnight, Tilt ommarow
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You got a private message. Thanx for the image

What do you think of these buttons?
Here's a template that I made for you.The dimensions are exact to the current layout.
If you were to replace the current background with this, it would be functional.
Some graphics should be added, especialy to brighten the lower section.
The size of the top button looks off, I suggest either make it bigger to match
(which would look crowded with the task bar, unless you lower everything),
or I can change it into a text box or no box just text.
Do you need text added, or is the text part of the app?
Anyway, just let me know your preferences ie graphics, text, color, button style etc., and I will adapt accordingly.

Tilt ommarow said:
Here's a template that I made for you.The dimensions are exact to the current layout.
If you were to replace the current background with this, it would be functional.
Some graphics should be added, especialy to brighten the lower section.
The size of the top button looks off, I suggest either make it bigger to match
(which would look crowded with the task bar, unless you lower everything),
or I can change it into a text box or no box just text.
Do you need text added, or is the text part of the app?
Anyway, just let me know your preferences ie graphics, text, color, button style etc., and I will adapt accordingly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This looks very nice. The reason why there is such a big gap at the bottom is that im not sure if it will all fit on a vga device. The buttons look nice. I also cant use it as is because on different device with different os's like 6.1 6.5 6.5.3 the image moves slightly up and down. so you will have to include the images with the text on it, as individual images and they have to be square cause i dont know how to program transparency as yet. Hope it would be possible. Thanx soo much for the effort so far It looks awesome

Grumps said:
This looks very nice. The reason why there is such a big gap at the bottom is that im not sure if it will all fit on a vga device. The buttons look nice. I also cant use it as is because on different device with different os's like 6.1 6.5 6.5.3 the image moves slightly up and down. so you will have to include the images with the text on it, as individual images and they have to be square cause i dont know how to program transparency as yet. Hope it would be possible. Thanx soo much for the effort so far It looks awesome
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Grumps, I just read your pm. Gimme a minute. I think I have something for you.
Thanks for the info above.
As I understand it, you need buttons with text and the background seperate.
I am uploading a file for you. Please let me know how these work for you.View attachment Grumps.zip