Noob root questions - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey everyone,
I am a super noob....wondering a few things....
1. Is it possible to root my evo without a PC? I do not own one and my phone is my only source of internet.
2. If so how? And is their any detailed how to's for such a thing...step by step.....possibly even noob proof
3. Assuming I can and I get it rooted what would you recommend next? I can maybe use someones comp from work so this question is essential
Sorry if this has been posted before, but forums can be such a chore when on a mobile
Look forward to your help and incite....cptcave
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Hmmm....as far as I know you would need a computer to root fje phone, I haven't seen a way to do it without it. Of course I could be wrong here.
If you could borrow a friends computer you should be fine. Just search the forum and you'll find some great threads on how to root. I did mine after it first came out so im not too familiar with the newer simpler versions on how to do it.
Hope this was of some help.
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Yes,J asonK75 is right. As far as I know, you do need a computer to fully root & unlock Nand.
Loads of threads for step by step instructions.
The advantages of rooting are basically that you can install certail apps (Wifi tether, Titanium Backup) which require root access to work. Furthermore, rooting gives you ability to install custom roms and theme your phone.
Hope this answeres all your questions.

Agreed. I could not imagine being on the stock Sense ROM anymore. I love CM ROMs and I like the fact that I can try others like MIUI and Liquid too. Themes are worth it right there, not to mention custom kernals and different transitions. Plus we might have GB before the official release of it!
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[Q] I just rooted HTC EVO, now What

Hello,
I am a rookie in android world, i just rooted my HTC EVO with 2.2. I was wondering if some can tell me the benefits of rooting the device and tips and tricks
thanks
I wonder why would you root your phone and have not one clue on what it does or what you can do with it. And if you rooted your phone obviously you know how to look through a forum.. also you should do nand unlock also.
Anyways. Things like over, underclock, use 3rd party apps, use apps that have to have root in order to use. That's some. There is a search button that helps out alot unless you are using the app for xda then use Google. Also if you read through topics if mostly on topics when rooted. Also custom roms and kernels.
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Please provide some helpful guidelines instead of criticism
Yeah that was putting it lightly. People are going to flame you for posting something you can learn by just reading a few posts in each thread.. or going to back out and nit even give you 10 seconds of their life because you fail to read or search on a topic that makes this forum. If it wasn't for rooting and all the other stuff that comes with it. And I gave you some info. I don't feel like searching everything for you and posting the link.
Edit: helpful guidelines... search button and Google are very helpful. Serious and all, spend a hour on here in the forums and you will answer the questions on your post. I was new on here when I got my evo. I rooted because I heard what you can do. Not because I heard about root and had no clue. If you Google there are yahoo topics asking this and fully explains. Wiki fully in detail explains this. So many other websites and forums have the info you want. I'm not trying to sound rude here and people might take it as rude. You will probably here 10 times from people about the search button after hearing it from me.
Edit again. There isn't really any guidelines after root. Depends what you want to do after. Use apps that use root, use a custom rom or kernel, or theme and customize everything... well almost everything..
If I could post links to the info I prob would.. but can't..
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The main thing after rooting and nand unlock is to be able to use custom roms and kernels. There are 2 types. Sense and senseless roms. Senseless roms are called asop. Cm6 is a rom that has no sense in it at all.
You can use setcpu which is a paid app in the market to overclock or underclock. You need a custom kernel and sometimes with stock kernel you can overclock. You don't need a custom kernel to underclock. Also there are many thing implemented in kernels to help your phone run faster or use less battery. Read all kernels. Some kernels can only run on sense or asop roms.
You can change most stuff on your phone. When you turn phone on you have the splash screen which is the first thing on. Then you have bootscreen. Both can be changed. You can change the icons with an app in the market but forgot the name of it.
There are different launchers. Launcher pro and adw launcher.
Each has there own pros and cons.
You can change keyboards... like swype and Droid x keyboard or ones in market.
Most of the icons on the status bar can be changed. There are themes that theme everything on your phone..
So much more.. you can spend hours on here and find new stuff to do. You will probably put a custom rom on and kernel and there almost all of them or enough and find one that suites your needs...
Hope this helps better.. I'm bored at home while girlfriend is at the bar..
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Thanks now for the help. Any special Rom thats the besy?
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Depends on what you are looking for... every rom is different. They all look different.. and some take out gapps (Google apps) and sprint apps.. just try one first to learn how to flash a rom and understand how to do that. Then just read up on roms and find one that suites you..
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ken101 said:
Thanks now for the help. Any special Rom thats the besy?
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It's really up to personal choice. Just make sure that you back up your phone and that you have NAND unlocked.
How do I figure out if I have nand unlocked, what's the good software that I can use to backup my phone
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There is lots of information on the xda website a good place to start is http://tinyurl.com/25tc3xr
ken101 said:
Please provide some helpful guidelines instead of criticism
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hehe... let's see if I got this right.
You rooted your phone
After rooting your phone, you're asking what you can do with it now
marty responds and thinks it's a little strange why a person would root his phone and then ask what benefit it was, to do so, he also includes some benefits of rooting, then follows it up with some helpful advice on how to use the search to find answers here
You respond by telling him to FU with the criticism, and give him "real answers"
This world never fails to amaze me.
Common Sense 101 (you got that in your nym, but sadly, nowhere else) is you READ about what rooting is, what bad things could happen if you do it, what advantages and disadvantages there are, how dangerous it is to do so, how hard it is, the success/failure rate of it, the different methods of doing it.. You do all this READING.......
BEFORE YOU ROOT YOUR PHONE!!!!
Would you not agree, that would be a more sensible approach?
Granted, it's too late now, but maybe you could use that approach in the future?
This is not criticism, this is a HELPFUL GUIDELINE
I got your back
Wow Deja vu you are me a few months ago. Well I think I will help you out a little bit.
Rooting does two things. First, it gives you su binaries and a supeuser app that let you access your phone's operating system to make small changes and use apps that could harm the phone over a long time and/or save you moneeeeey! Second, it lets you install a custom recovery. Recovery mode is a tool that lets your phone update itself and, in a total system crash, recovery itself. A cutoff recovery can make the phone think it is being updated or recovered, but is actually being totally changed.
NAND unlocking lets you make major changes to the operating system that you couldn't do otherwise by removing all security (from you, not from hackers) and letting you install asop and other stuff.
Once you get a custom recovery, you can flash (falsely update with a read only zip file) a rom. These rooms can have small or large changes depending on personal preference. You can add themes to these rooms the same way, and change kernels, as well as installing root only apps.
Remember, before you flash anything ALWAYS make a nandroid backup in recovery mode, so if your phone is totally wrecked from the inside, you can fix it. There is no other way to fix it if you mess something up.
You're welcome.
Some Information 4u
Why can't you guys just answer his F'in question, a$$holes.
ken101, some thoughts.
Try these links to get more information.
http://smarterware.org/3189/why-and-how-to-root-your-android-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
the procedure I followed to root my stock 2.2 EVO, basically you downgrade to 2.1, install unrevoke, upgrade to 2.2.
Here is a good one that goes through all the steps. NOTE: YOU WILL NOT FOLLOW this for your phone, but it gives you an idea of what you next steps are.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5214290
From the link above, research every step, so you learn the pros/cons. For example, why wipe my phone, do I need to, does the custom rom require it, what does wiping do.
AND remember, BACKUP FIRST, BACKUP FIRST, should I say that again.
When you rooted your phone, you installed a Recovery Mod, you should via SuperUser be able to boot into it. There is a feature called NANDROID, use it to backup your system and apps before you do anything else. You will then be able to use the same procedure to restore if you do something that breaks your phone (breaks as in the system), going forward.
Good Look Chief, sounds like you are on your way. One last, google search "best roms for Evo", see what you come up with, I think there are 6 or 7 good custom roms out there now for the EVO, make sure they are ready for 2.2, but anyway, investigate the pro/cons of each rom before going forward.
Cya..
Thanks a lot you guys, you guys helped a lot!
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Best roms
Honestly, cyanogen is too unstable and you lose too much. It is very widely respected, but I do prefer ava v7 froyo. It has the battery life of fresh, and some great visual and app enhancements. Choose wisely. And, I cannot say it enough, NANDROID BACKUP! ! !
IDK how someone who actually had the patience to ROOT stock 2.2 (which looks very much like a pain in the ass to me!) is so clueless after having just completed that task? Wouldn't you have a few ideas in mind before you rooted your phone?
Thanks for the nice remarks. The reason I didn't look ahead because I wanted to see if I can root it or not. Once I was able to next step was to do creative stuff with it.
I hope you r satisfied
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I just ate a snickers bar, I feel very satisfied right now...
rcbarr said:
Why can't you guys just answer his F'in question, a$$holes.
ken101, some thoughts.
Try these links to get more information.
http://smarterware.org/3189/why-and-how-to-root-your-android-phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
the procedure I followed to root my stock 2.2 EVO, basically you downgrade to 2.1, install unrevoke, upgrade to 2.2.
Here is a good one that goes through all the steps. NOTE: YOU WILL NOT FOLLOW this for your phone, but it gives you an idea of what you next steps are.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5214290
From the link above, research every step, so you learn the pros/cons. For example, why wipe my phone, do I need to, does the custom rom require it, what does wiping do.
AND remember, BACKUP FIRST, BACKUP FIRST, should I say that again.
When you rooted your phone, you installed a Recovery Mod, you should via SuperUser be able to boot into it. There is a feature called NANDROID, use it to backup your system and apps before you do anything else. You will then be able to use the same procedure to restore if you do something that breaks your phone (breaks as in the system), going forward.
Good Look Chief, sounds like you are on your way. One last, google search "best roms for Evo", see what you come up with, I think there are 6 or 7 good custom roms out there now for the EVO, make sure they are ready for 2.2, but anyway, investigate the pro/cons of each rom before going forward.
Cya..
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quick question ken 101, your evo came android 2.2 stock? before you rooted it

[Q] Nervous about root

The Evo is my first smartphone so naturally the thought of rooting then bricking my baby is daunting. I thought it would be a good idea to post here first before I make any attempts.
I found this guide but I had a few questions about it.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690762
(had to butcher the link since I am a "new member")
My first question is if I am running sock software number 3.29.651.5 is this guide still helpful? I noticed it was written in May and there have been many updates since then.
My second question is about ROMs. I have narrowed it down to CyanogenMod-6 or Myn’s. My two goals after root are to wireless tether 4g internet access and to have a speedy/responsive phone for playing emulators. Which ROM would be best for my needs?
Thanks!
The one you pointed to is outdated - it's for the Eclair version of Android (2.1). http://www.unrevoked.com/recovery/ will be the easiest way to root your phone. For more information, search for tutorials on using unrevoked 3.21. I used regaw_leinad's guide to rooting 2.2 but I don't know if that's still valid with this latest OTA.
If you want 4G, that eliminates CM-6 because it doesn't have 4G. Myn is nice. Lots of people swear by Fresh. I like Burnt Droid and Vaelpak roms. All of these have 4G.
Before doing anything read, read, read and read some more. Before flashing new roms (and you won't stop at just one rom), back up and nand (this is creating a backup image of your phone on the sd card). I use MyBackupPro to back up apps but lots of people use Titanium Backup.
I've read that totally bricking the Evo is hard although I was successful . What I did was pull the battery during an OTA update - so now you know what NOT to do.
Good luck!
If you're nervous about rooting, check out the "misconceptions" sticky first, and read that entire thread - it's a great jump-off point for new users. There's a ton of great info there, but the best is a series of questions that anyone about to root should be able to answer. Once you've done enough reading to answer those questions, you'll be ready to handle anything that comes up in the root process.
Good luck!
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I wanna root my phone also but I am new to this android stuff and I don't know which link or video to go by? I wanna get the wireless tethering also and check out a few ROM's myself. Can someone please point me in the right direction i wanna root my phone with unrevoked 3. Please help a newbie out.
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I had the same feeling and then a few days ago I just did it...i used unrevoked and it couldn't have been easier
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Do it its not hard and its way worth it I have cyanogenmod and vanilla is so sexy plus no sense but I would research before anything
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[Q] Rookie rooter looking for best way to root Evo for the first time.

Hi I am going to finally try to root my Evo 4g but I really don't want to brick phone. I have read where rooting is easier than ever and I also would like to install custom rom. Could someone with exp. rooting evo recently give me a short tutorial or just point me to a link on easiest way to root with all steps from very first step needed? Should I use Unrevoked or other tool? I know that there is several threads but thats the problem don't know which to use. Thanks or any help rooting and installing custom rom for the first time on my Android phone!
Yea use unrevoked its the easiest and best way to go. Then I would flash cyanogenmod7.
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i second that
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youtube unrevoked, and search for the video made by user named greedy........ most of my friends who have evos have watched it and say its very clear on what you need to do, it will be easier than having use trying to explain this to you with words
savannahmick said:
Hi I am going to finally try to root my Evo 4g but I really don't want to brick phone. I have read where rooting is easier than ever and I also would like to install custom rom. Could someone with exp. rooting evo recently give me a short tutorial or just point me to a link on easiest way to root with all steps from very first step needed? Should I use Unrevoked or other tool? I know that there is several threads but thats the problem don't know which to use. Thanks or any help rooting and installing custom rom for the first time on my Android phone!
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Search unrevoked,lots of written and video tuts out there,and a little mikfroyo 4.5,or 4.6,Gingersense,mikz.........and a netarchy kernel(Read alil about custom kernels and you're good)
Quick and easy is ok, but I recommend the below root method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045&highlight=root
You will learn a little about your device, and basic understanding of what you are actually doing to obtain root user access.
After this, most general tasks like backing up, flashing ROMs, and simple hacks will be a cake walk.
Have fun, and good luck either way.
I used the unrevoked method as well. SOOOO easy. make sure you uninstall HTC sync. Now if I could just figure out how to upload cyanogen7. ( I'm a noob too)

[Q] Best root method - a lot out there!

ok well I just picked up my new Epic after trading in my awesome (but heavy) Evo 4G. I had no issues rooting, flashing numerous rom's, bootloaders, etc. and now I'm in a new pool!
Since I've always trusted & used XDA for that device, I trust it for this new one as well. So I am looking at the dev sub cat and naturally on page1 there are do it this way, that way, etc. I used unrevoked which naturally won't work for this, so what's the easiest (and / or preferred method) for rooting this device?
I am writing this thread on a macbook, so have access to that as well as a VM of windows xp, win 7 and openSuse, so really any OS.
Looking forward to ROM flashing, testing, whatever direction the group goes, so just like the evo, want to follow the lead from you guys.
Looking forward to the new journey!
Thanks ...
Whsts up nd welcome i had og evo nd evo3d so i know you feel crossing over samsung but honestly its too easy to root lol.just look in dev section theres how to videos nd directions noob prove.pm if any questions.
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Is this ROM on the EG31 or 30 base? Where's the download link? Im confused.
phatmanxxl said:
Is this ROM on the EG31 or 30 base? Where's the download link? Im confused.
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zedomax or lost kernel would work.
best roms, i like barebone rom the most, but starburst or calks rom is good
If you want to root, use this! Easiest and doesn't add to your ODIN counter
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
When did this become the Development Question section? Oh wait... We don't have one of those... : facepalm:
Moving this to Q&A....
Removing hands from face, and ever so sorry jerdog for posting IMO a development question in the development forum. In the EVO forums on XDA, anything root related, how-to, mod's, rom's, etc. all fell under there.
Looking at the description of the Q&A it states "For all of your questions relating to the Sprint Epic 4G Touch", then why do I see questions there at all? It should be strictly links to downloads, kernels, themes, etc. but hey, that's just my .02
And ... since I am in the Q&A now, I have it rooted, I tried to restore my titanium backup which I purchased, it did install but not listed in the apps and there is an uninstall (no open) under the market, so that app is installed, just not sure why it's not able to run. I will install a terminal app this am and look for the app to try, but just curious. If TB doesn't run, what is the preferred way/app to remove sprint bloatware, etc.
Also, I assume CWM is the preferred recovery app, same with the EPIC?
I am going to start looking at ROM's, etc. so may have a few more q's down the road (putting them in the Q&A I assume)
Thanks ....
CWM is indeed the preferred recovery. I just started flashing ROM's myself, my favorite so far is the AOSPMod ROM, followed my Starburst.
dette said:
If you want to root, use this! Easiest and doesn't add to your ODIN counter
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
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I agree that this seems to be the best, simplest and safest rooting method... I used this method on my wife's stock phone (she is afraid of modded). Easy as pie. I am not sure about the su version though, as I was not able to update that on her phone....

[Q] Confused About Everything (Roots, ROMS, etc.)

Got the S3 and rooted it but now I need to know why I rooted it. I know, I'm dumb. But this thread is just packed with too many things to learn anything. It's Jelly Bean frost this, JB fire this. I can't even learn what any of it is. Somebody please tell me what I should do with my rooted phone but first tell me what ROMS and all that other stuff is.
So you can delete bloatware and backup stuff.
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Got the S3 and rooted it but now I need to know why I rooted it. I know, I'm dumb. But this thread is just packed with too many things to learn anything. It's Jelly Bean frost this, JB fire this. I can't even learn what any of it is. Somebody please tell me what I should do with my rooted phone but first tell me what ROMS and all that other stuff is.
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Read the stickies in this forum and the rom descriptions.
You root because you want complete control over your technology. You root because of lackluster performance from stock software. You root because a company wants to limit you on the potential and fun you can have.
If you're not a technologist and have no desire to experiment and push the limits of your device then you shouldn't root in the first place.
You root your phone to over clock, under clock, under volt, themes, roms, radios, debloat, etc.
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You root your phone to over clock, under clock, under volt, themes, roms, radios, debloat, etc.
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Whats ROMS and radios?
TomTcom said:
Read the stickies in this forum and the rom descriptions.
You root because you want complete control over your technology. You root because of lackluster performance from stock software. You root because a company wants to limit you on the potential and fun you can have.
If you're not a technologist and have no desire to experiment and push the limits of your device then you shouldn't root in the first place.
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I can't find anything to do because this forum is nothing but a clustered, pack, load of too many things.
This was 3 or 4 threads below this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900345
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I can't find anything to do because this forum is nothing but a clustered, pack, load of too many things.
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Go into the developer forum. Lots of good info there. I spent several months researching and reading everything to determine the best route for me and what I wanted to accomplish and what was important for me. The definitions you seek are in many posts and several definitions are universal to each phone. Research man, research!
ThaGreatest said:
Got the S3 and rooted it but now I need to know why I rooted it. I know, I'm dumb. But this thread is just packed with too many things to learn anything. It's Jelly Bean frost this, JB fire this. I can't even learn what any of it is. Somebody please tell me what I should do with my rooted phone but first tell me what ROMS and all that other stuff is.
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The main and what I consider biggest reason for rooting is being able to back up any and all info and apps. The very first thing I would do after gaining root is make sure you have a custom recovery installed and do a full nandroid backup, either CWM touch or TWRP. Both of those are very easy to install, for the CWM just get Rom Manager from the play store and flash recovery from the app, or for TWRP get GooManager from the store and again flash from the app.
Second would be to install Titanium Backup and back up all your apps.
Once you've done both of those steps you should get Terminal Emulator from the store and read and follow these directions:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32397-tutorial-imei-backup-nv-with-qpst-us-variants/
This will be your 3rd backup and you should now be able to recover from any type of issue unless you completely brick your phone.
AFTER all this you can think about flashing a new rom, as for which one I would read the OP carefully and figure out what you are looking for. Do you want a cutting edge, completely up to date rom with jellybean, a 100% stable, bug free rom, a "pretty" rom, etc.
If you cant find anything in these threads after the help you've gotten here then it's hopeless.
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