[Q] GPS signal blocked when using resin case. - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I had a 1 month old Desire HD and i had it without any casing for days and had very few problems. But ever since i got my resin case for it, i start to have problems receiving GPS signal. I tried it many times, with the casing i receive no GPS signals at all, but other signals like network and wifi, it works fine. Without the casing, GPS signal is back but locking would take sometime and it will not lock at all indoors (at home, usually i get locks from my old nokia N82)
Anybody having the same experience? mind sharing?
Hopefully there's a fix sumwhere or a case that doesnt have such issues...

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GPS totally Dead

Hi,
Not sure if this is a question of a rant.
Desire about 6 Months old, been working fine but now I get absolutely no GPS lock at all.
I have tried GPS Status and gone through the menus, resetting A-Gps to no avail.
A-GPS picks up and locks on fine, perfectly accurate
Tried disabling A-GPS leaving only Satellite but nothing at all.
Nothing in Navigation, no bars at all in CoPilot.
The phone does see the GPS device, but receives zero signal from any satellite.
I have tried pretty much all Radios, and a whole bunch of Roms from Leedroid 2.2a back through the other Sense Roms, non Sense and Stock ROM
Done full resets, factory restores etc and have ran out of ideas.
I know where this will go, I will return it to non root, stock and request a Warranty return.
Orange will get it back and say, Nope...it's water damage (seems to be a common theme for mobile repairs)
There is no damage, the phone has been well protected in all the time I have owned it, rubber covers, screen protectors etc.
I work Office based so it isn't as if I am outside using it either.
Personally I think this is heat related, not water/moisture. When using the GPS it does get warm. I think too warm.
I would like there to be a plug in GPS inside the phone which could be replaced but it may be integrated which effectively makes my phone a doorstop (for what I wanted it for).
EDIT: Just looked at a good disassembly video on You tube. Yep! there is no plug in GPS unit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXZqIjtFoAU&feature=related
Anyone got any suggestions??

[Q] What could be causing Data/3G connectivity problems?

So I recently was able to replace my Samsung Fascinate because of the ED05 Update not fixing the missed call problem.
I recieved my DInc2 yesterday at 3pm & have noticed that it takes a minute or more to open links from Twitter in Dolphin browser hd and that the 3G icon and bars fluxuates from no bars, no 3g icon to full bars to 2 bars etc..
Just wondering if you guys no of a simple fix, if its a known issue, and your thoughts
Thanks
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If you're not in a very well covered area, it seems the Inc2 doesn't work so well. For me, being in a well covered area, data functionality is actually exceptional (2mbit speeds not uncommon, usually 1+mbit in most areas, and only a few areas under 1mbit).
This seems to stem from the type of antenna being used. There is a discussion on trying to figure out the best/easiest way to fix this. So far what has been tried is aluminum foil in the back cover (this doesn't seem very well substantiated), small bus/magnet wire (personally tested and works to boost signal, but may not be worth the trouble), and the possibility of conductive ink to extend the existing antenna (possibly the best solution...if it works at all).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1180603

GPS Dropping

Does anyone else have this issue? My GPS loses connection to the satellites every couple minutes. And yes, I have the latest map update.
Must be the bug in update. Try to use 3rd party app! Just because i never updated mine, and is working like a charm
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The GPS in my phone is not very accurate. Maybe its just this phone. I only get relatively good GPS reception at night.
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Thanks guys. I'm starting to think it may just be this phone as well. The first map told me I was 3 miles away from my house....lol...and the second was accurate but keeps dropping the signal. I do have carhome. I'll try that and see what happens.
I also have this issue though the GPS (which is used a lot by me) was quite OK in the beginning after I bought my LG OG PRO.
I read in one of the Samsung NOTE forums that people mention the same problem claiming that the drops come when there is an "interruption" (which can be an incoming call or SMS or switching from 3G antenna to 3.5G for example). After reading this I realized that my GPS gets lost always after an incoming call plus I see at least a couple of places along my daily driving routine where GPS is lost exactly at the same place every day (making antenna switch assumption logical).
There were no any conclusions or suggested solutions in these forums, people even do not know if it is software or hardware related.
Anyone has such an issue too? Any recommendations for possible fix?
I can't believe but it seems I solved the problem with GPS - 15-20 seconds for GPS lock, no dropping and GPS test application shows very nice picture of 8-9 satellites constantly locked up while most of the signal bars are yellow (i.e. the signal strength is good).
I searched a lot as it really bothered me because I use my GPS very much plus I can say that beside this annoying thing I am very satisfied with my LG OG Pro, but nothing helped until I found this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBpNtWvY454 (it explains the solution for Nexus 5, but my problem is identical)
Basically, the problem is that there are special contacts on the motherboard connected to the GPS antenna which is part of the back cover and the contacts are not tightened well to the GPS antenna (look at the attached picture where I put the red arrows at the relevant places). Due to the bad touch between the contacts and the antenna, the GPS does not work properly. So, all you need to do is to remove your back cover, gently "un-glue" the GPS antenna end (the rectangle part on the back cover containing 2 golden dots), lift it up a little and put a piece of paper that will tighten the antenna and mother board contacts when the back cover is returned. Good luck.
It is NFC Antenna, you cant fix GPS this way.
I have same issue, but i think NFC and GPS antennas are different. I am disassemble the phone and pull up all golden springs - but gps still very weak(((
Any solution?
same GPS problem for my g pro.
GPS is weaker and weaker
I realigned all the pins inside the phone and fixed it for a bit, but the signal was still weak. I figured it was the modem. I installed a custom rom and it worked like a charm!

Erratic GPS

I have taken my smart watch 3 running with me quite a few times over the last 3 weeks since i bought it, and i seem every time, to get some quite odd gps issues. Tried with both runkeeper and ghostracer and both are the same, which leads me to think it is the watch.
When tracking a run, the watch just all of a sudden, seems to lose GPS, no signal what so ever. Sometimes it picks it back up after a few minutes, sometimes it doesnt come back at all.
I have tried a factory reset on the watch and that didnt help at all. I have also tested this in both built up and open areas, in areas that the GPS diag tool in the dev menu says that i have access to 19 satellites, so should have no issues with GPS, but constantly do.
Is this something others have experienced? Or could this be a faulty watch?
i have had similar yet different experiences with mine.
two nights ago, had both runkeeper and ghostracer running at the same time standalone. at 3.6km ghost racer stopped tracking GPS yet runkeepr was fine.
then last night at 2.9km ghostracer again stop tracking gps. but i forgot to run runkeeper at the same time so no knowing if software or hardware.
its an annoying problem to say the least. i have mentioned this on ghostracer Google+ page.
Same problem here. Love this watch as a running watch when it works. Guess I need to start look for a normal running watch that allows me to play my music from the watch. Love the freedom of not having a phone with me.
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I find the ghost racer app buggy as hell on my watch, works fine on my phone but every time i go stand alone it craps out it's got to the stage i only run it if i have my phone with me.
I have had no problems what so ever with Runkeeper so this is what i have been using on my watch can't wait till other devs get there act together and start making there apps work as stand alone on android wear.
rnscotch said:
I find the ghost racer app buggy as hell on my watch, works fine on my phone but every time i go stand alone it craps out it's got to the stage i only run it if i have my phone with me.
I have had no problems what so ever with Runkeeper so this is what i have been using on my watch can't wait till other devs get there act together and start making there apps work as stand alone on android wear.
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GhostRacer works fine for me: better to to get 4 "steps" of gps signal before starting the run.
I have had the same awful experience since I did few test runs in the past 3 weeks with the Smartwatch 3. I tried the Endomondo and RunKeeper. both can be running stand alone on the watch. The GPS signals were easily lost and could not recover for a long period during the run. It seems to be a problem of the watch, not the apps. I had a 20k run, which ended up with only around 10k was tracked.
In the last trial taken yesterday with Endomondo, which is nice with the GPS signal strength display. I had turned on airplane mode this time. It did have some improvement. The GPS signal lost after 5k run, but I hadn't been aware of its loss until 10k. Then I click open the app and made sure the GPS signal was recovered before resuming the run. It then seems fine until end of run that totally tracked 21.2k out of the 26.3k run.
It's really a frustrating problem to have a runners' watch without proper GPS tracking.
same
i have the same problems with my watch.
after 5k the ghostracer app did not update speed and distance anymore. but the app itself was still okay because the heartrate was still changing and accurate. after 5 k more it suddenly picks up signal again. but of course all running data is useless.
after the issues with the bluetooth and google play music - now the next issue which destroys the actual reason to choose this watch.
to have a stand alone running smartwach with offine music and gps without the need to take the phone with me.
i wonder if this is a software (firmware/wear) issue and can be fixed with the next updates or in the worst case a hardware/design issue.
what do you think?
Same issue here with Endomondo. I haven't tried any other apps but for the last few days I'm getting erratic signal that will randomly stop working and usually never comes back. Really frustrating and hoping it's able to be fixed.
I tried using Ghost Racer and I am still getting constant GPS drop outs that don't come back. I've run the same course before issues cropped up with no problems at all.
Anyone have any additional thoughts on this? It's getting to be very annoying when your full run isn't tracking. Thanks in advance!
cardcowsports said:
I tried using Ghost Racer and I am still getting constant GPS drop outs that don't come back. I've run the same course before issues cropped up with no problems at all.
Anyone have any additional thoughts on this? It's getting to be very annoying when your full run isn't tracking. Thanks in advance!
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I'm having the same issues. I contracted android wear support through chat and they are going to forward my request to their hardware specialist. They said I was the first they have heard about the issue so speak up to them, make this issue known!
I just got the 5.1 update and itching to go for a run to test the GPS. Has anyone tried since the ota and is there any difference?
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AW 5.1.1 and GPS
Hi,
I have tried it (7.2km, mainly in forest) and the GPS signal has been pretty accurate.
Before the update I had a lot of issues on the same route.
So there is a chance that it is finaly fixed.
It seems that the GPS problem has been solved with the 5.1.1 update. I have had a run of 15.6K with Endomondo. It logged exactly the same. But unfortunately, the workout data was lost without being synced with phone app as usual, but the GPS problem definitely solved.
Well I guess I'm an unlucky one. My GPS has always been unreliable - not just inaccurate, but unreliable in that it will stop working part way through all of my runs. I'm lucky to get 2-3 miles before it stops working. I've tried Runkeeper and Ghostracer and it does the same on both. On Ghostracer it shows the GPS "bars", and I wait until it gets 3-4 bars before I run, then as I run it will gradually lose bars until it loses signal completely. I run on open streets with no trees or other obstructions to the sky so not sure what's going on. I upgraded to 5.1.1 in hopes that would address the issue but no such luck. Today I'm on my third ph call with Sony trying to get it RMA'd for repair.
I have yet to run without the GPS losing signal. Tried Runkeeper and Ghost Racer. Usually signal does not return. First 2-3 miles usually works pretty well. Any distance longer I lose signal. Might be heading back to Amazon before my 30 days are up.
Too early to be happy on the 5.1..1 update. The same GPS signals loss issue has come back again since the 2nd trial run. The signal lost around 3k, never coming back most of the time. Still no idea what's getting wrong.
I've been having GPS dropout problems for the last week and a half, ever since installing 5.1.1. According to someone on the Ghostracer App hangout, the problem is caused when the watch gets wet. I don't know if that's really the case, but yesterday before a run I put a layer of duct tape on the back of the watch and didn't have any problems. My previous three runs before that were all mis-recorded because of GPS dropouts.
I'm going to keep putting the tape on to see if it's really a solution.
mkddy said:
I've been having GPS dropout problems for the last week and a half, ever since installing 5.1.1. According to someone on the Ghostracer App hangout, the problem is caused when the watch gets wet. I don't know if that's really the case, but yesterday before a run I put a layer of duct tape on the back of the watch and didn't have any problems. My previous three runs before that were all mis-recorded because of GPS dropouts.
I'm going to keep putting the tape on to see if it's really a solution.
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Tried the duct tape on the back. First longer run that I did not lose GPS. Not really loving the solution putting duct tape on every time I run.
It's absolutely the wet (sweating) causing the dropout. I had tried the duct tape approach, but still experienced the dropout after several kms, which might be due to the wet surrounding. Then I wiped the moisture off the duct tape, and the GPS signal was locked again immediately. The signals were most accurate when I simply took the watch off the wrist and held it during the run, that effectively kept it away from my sweating skin. What a design from Sony!
I'd better try the wristband approach before I decide to dump it!
So, if the moisture is really effecting it, then it would imply that the antenna is mounted in the rear, or grounded to the case. The extra moisture (conductivity from the body salts) against the case means that your body is now able to attenuate (or ground out) the antenna, thus disrupting the signal.
Noting this, i think i may take some flat clear acrylic hobby paint, and give a good layer to the back, and see if it helps. The paint should provide an insulating layer without really irritating the skin.. Can't really hurt to try..

No GPS signal during cloudy sky

Hi. I noticed that during the cloudy sky the phone can not find the signal GPS. When it is cloudless, it takes a few seconds to find the signal. Whoever has problems with this. Unfortunately I live in uk and there is no sun so this is a big problem
For GPS to work, your phone need to be able to receive signals from multiple satellites. Clouds can block the signals. Not a lot you can do.
Possibly the receiver in this phone is impacted by the metal case? Keep it screen-up?
I noticed that FM radio reception is not as good as my previous phone...

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