EVO Shift similarities? - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So everything I've read about this phone indicates that it's more closely related to the G2/Desire Z than anything else, sharing a lot of common components. So my question is do you guys think that rooting methods/ROMs for the G2/Desire Z would work for this phone? I think it would be awesome to be able to root it the first day I get it and flash CM6 so I don't lose much in the transition from my Hero. I use tethering EVERY day, and I don't think I'd be able to get around Sprint's tethering thing if I leave it on a stock ROM.

From someone terribly uneducated when it comes to all things root, I'd probably say that's ridiculously unlikely to be the case.

The shift is one ugly phone. I'd stick with the G2.
Sent from my CyanogenMod powered G2.

The shift looks like a evo and epic 4g had sex n spit out that bull****.
[G2/HTC Vision]

SirRipo said:
So everything I've read about this phone indicates that it's more closely related to the G2/Desire Z than anything else, sharing a lot of common components. So my question is do you guys think that rooting methods/ROMs for the G2/Desire Z would work for this phone? I think it would be awesome to be able to root it the first day I get it and flash CM6 so I don't lose much in the transition from my Hero. I use tethering EVERY day, and I don't think I'd be able to get around Sprint's tethering thing if I leave it on a stock ROM.
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While I agree that the Evo Shift internally is very similar to the G2/DZ, the fact that it has a CDMA radio means it has a different radio image which means it can't be rooted/s-off with the current methods. If we're lucky, all that needs to be done is the current methods modified to work. But the ROMs would not be interchangeable. If there isn't by now, there will be a seperate forum for it. Much like there's the Hero and CDMA Hero forums.
Sent from my HTC Vision

heybobitsme said:
While I agree that the Evo Shift internally is very similar to the G2/DZ, the fact that it has a CDMA radio means it has a different radio image which means it can't be rooted/s-off with the current methods. If we're lucky, all that needs to be done is the current methods modified to work. But the ROMs would not be interchangeable. If there isn't by now, there will be a seperate forum for it. Much like there's the Hero and CDMA Hero forums.
Sent from my HTC Vision
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Snap. I didn't even think of that.

i do like the sliding mechanism alot more..but thats alright.

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[Q] Need Help Rooting the Merge

Hi Everyone, this is my first time here in this section of XDA developers, but I have an interesting situation.
I recently acquired the Merge (Verizon's G2 variant that is still in limbo) and I'm thinking of rooting it. I have tried the instructions on the wiki for gfree 02, but it seems that as soon as I enter adb shell and type in su, I get permission denied. I read the wiki for hot to use gfree and also how to install adb but I have not been able to find an answer.
I'm trying to get the merge SIM unlocked and because this is the first android phone I have ever owned, I would really like to be able to use it on AT&T's network. Anyways, I would like to get some help as to why I am getting the permission denied response when I did everythng as the gfree wiki said to do. Is it possible that the merge is so internally different that gfree will not work on it even if it's a variant?
It's GSM coming from verizon?
If you're trying to use gfree to gain s-off, I would HIGHLY recommend running it with the "-s" flag (no quotations) just to be on the safe side
Even then, I still wouldn't recommend running gfree on the merge as it was made to gain radio s-off on the htc vision.
I would suggest using the rage method for now for root. See if that works.
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk
@ ratchetrizzo: no, it's just a world phone version for verizon users to use in different countries
@ Pancubano: So you would recommend against using gfree on the merge then? I'm trying to learn how to perform this rage method, but I have no experience in android whatsoever so even while reading the wiki, it seems there are a few things that are omitted or assumed that is common knowledge. By using the rage method, will I be able to achieve sim unlock status?
p.s thanks for replying!
The problem is, the merge is a CDMA device, so I'm pretty sure the sim unlock that gfree achieves with our HTC Vision's would not work on the merge. It involves copying partition 7 (on our phones) and making various hex edits to set the secu_flag to 0, supercid to 11111111 and simunlocking the phone, then copy's the modified partition back to the phone. All of which is taken care of by gfree.
Of course in order to process all of this, you're going to need at the very least temp root first, so, I would highly recommend doing more research into the rage method, but, do not try the gfree method yet, as I can't truely confirm if it will work with the merge with just the "-s" flag.
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"Rooting the Merge" sounds dirty...
You might actually have more luck in the HTC Evo Shift 4G subforum - that's Sprint's version of the G2 (more or less), and thus the internals are more likely to be similar to the Merge than the G2 would be.
the orange bandit said:
You might actually have more luck in the HTC Evo Shift 4G subforum - that's Sprint's version of the G2 (more or less), and thus the internals are more likely to be similar to the Merge than the G2 would be.
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Actually the merge is closer to the G2/DZ than the Shift 4G, right down to the keyboard and hinge, although I see the point since Sprint is CDMA although this phone is CDMA/GSM
well, thanks for everyone's attempt to help, but I finally realized that Verizon is evil and even if I unlock it, it'll simply be on 2G (EDGE) so there's no point of me having it.
EDIT: so I sold it to someone who is on verizon and will take care of it.
how did you get a hold of one? for some reason i dont believe you even had it from the start, haha. because it hasnt been released yet, and you must of been lucky enough to get an early production version.
I got it from a reviewer of the merge when it first came out. The mod who had it decided to sell it so i took a chance and bought it from him. After trying to unlock it, I finally gave up and because I got a leery of rooting it.
believe me or not, I had it, got to test it out, and finally had to give it up.
check htcmerge.com if you don't believe me. My username is the same as it is here.
EDIT: btw, why would I post this if I don't have it? It seems idiotic for me to post a thread asking for help on a phone that does not technically exist. No, I do not care for the attention. I was tempted to root it but as I said, I simply chickened out.
mputtr said:
I got it from a reviewer of the merge when it first came out. The mod who had it decided to sell it so i took a chance and bought it from him. After trying to unlock it, I finally gave up and because I got a leery of rooting it.
believe me or not, I had it, got to test it out, and finally had to give it up.
check htcmerge.com if you don't believe me. My username is the same as it is here.
EDIT: btw, why would I post this if I don't have it? It seems idiotic for me to post a thread asking for help on a phone that does not technically exist. No, I do not care for the attention. I was tempted to root it but as I said, I simply chickened out.
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Okay okay, its just a lot of speculation about this phone has been floating about and I didn't believe you. How did it run?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
It ran as well as the G2. What I did like alot was that unlike the evo shift 4g, the slider mechanism is spring loaded so it snaps upwards. the battery backing is odd since you have to pry the bottom part then unhook 2 minihooks on the side.
The heft of it is probably heavier than the G2, but it feels good in the hand and doesn't feel like it will slip at all.
Most of all the design is amazing!!
I definitely like the feel of the physical build. It feels tough, sturdy, and simply a phone that a man should have.
I think I might have only 1 gripe and that it's still stuck with bing since the one I bought was the Verizon version. (this was before the rumor that it was pulled back to be fitted with 4g).
In the end, I had to give it up, because I am on AT&T and verizon will never let their phones work on any carrier but theirs.
anyone been able to root a merge? I just got a merge. Didnt know about the phone beforehand and am using it on gsm(it is a worldphone). Once i got home and googled around and checked these forums... its still not released apparently :s so anyone have any idea on how i can root it?

[Q] potential g2 owner here, much needed help and appreciated!

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Hey all, I was thinking of getting a g2 after my contract is ready for it, and ive got a few questions. I'm not really a noob to all this rooting and cyanogen mod, so i might understand some of the technical jargon. i've rooted my g1 with cyanogen 5.0.8
If you use visionary to temp-root your phone daily, is there any chance for bricking it? Are there are any known problems with using visionary?
what are the main benefits with getting permaroot as opposed to just temp rooting it everytime? im not that interested in roms like cyanogen, gingervillan,etc
can you use setcpu with the stock tmobile g2 rom?
is the hinge really that bad?
does tmobile really monitor tethering? some say that the original g1 plan includes tethering but that just sounds absurd.
what exactly does busybox do? i have asked this several times but havent gotten a clear answer; i know that it has to do with linux, but thats about it :/
theres a section on the wiki about g2 radios; i dont understand what is the problem with the stock radio and why someone would want to flash another one besdies for the reason of getting a better signal, but this leads me to the question of 'doesnt tmobile update the radio? why would we need to manually update radio'?
what are the main differences between using visionary temp to permaroot and the adb method? if i were to use the visionary one, at what point could i enable s- off and hboot?
that being said, is there any news about a new release of visionary?
can't people just ask tmobile for a sim unlock code after 1 year? why do we have to root it and do it?
Looking at the wiki, i dont understand what md5 is when the wiki provides downloads and what it means
what is hboot used for and whats the difference between that and a bootloader (whats a bootloader btw)
can both temp rooting and both versions of permarooting work on 1.19 and 1.12?
thanks!
kayway27 said:
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Hey all, I was thinking of getting a g2 after my contract is ready for it, and ive got a few questions. I'm not really a noob to all this rooting and cyanogen mod, so i might understand some of the technical jargon. i've rooted my g1 with cyanogen 5.0.8
If you use visionary to temp-root your phone daily, is there any chance for bricking it? Are there are any known problems with using visionary?
what are the main benefits with getting permaroot as opposed to just temp rooting it everytime? im not that interested in roms like cyanogen, gingervillan,etc
can you use setcpu with the stock tmobile g2 rom?
is the hinge really that bad?
does tmobile really monitor tethering? some say that the original g1 plan includes tethering but that just sounds absurd.
what exactly does busybox do? i have asked this several times but havent gotten a clear answer; i know that it has to do with linux, but thats about it :/
theres a section on the wiki about g2 radios; i dont understand what is the problem with the stock radio and why someone would want to flash another one besdies for the reason of getting a better signal, but this leads me to the question of 'doesnt tmobile update the radio? why would we need to manually update radio'?
what are the main differences between using visionary temp to permaroot and the adb method? if i were to use the visionary one, at what point could i enable s- off and hboot?
that being said, is there any news about a new release of visionary?
can't people just ask tmobile for a sim unlock code after 1 year? why do we have to root it and do it?
Looking at the wiki, i dont understand what md5 is when the wiki provides downloads and what it means
what is hboot used for and whats the difference between that and a bootloader (whats a bootloader btw)
can both temp rooting and both versions of permarooting work on 1.19 and 1.12?
thanks!
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This late in the game jsut wait for the next wave of phones some will has dual core
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Might even see quad core by the end of the year.
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sorta didnt answer my question, dont mean to sound ungrateful;
i want the g2 b/c of the keyboard and other asthetics; dual core isnt that big of a factor for me.
As others have said there will be new phones coming out soon, faster processors, more cores, more megapixels, etc.
Another thing to consider is that I would expect new phones from T-Mobile to have radios capable of operating on AT&T's 3G network, making them more future proof.
OTOH If you are a keyboard guy I would expect these to be less and less common, as a former G1 user myself I can tell you the G2 keyboard is quite inferior to the G1 and thanks to better soft keyboards like Swype I rarely use the hardware keyboard anymore.
Also I can certainly sympathize with wanting to upgrade from the G1, the G2 is unbelievably more snappy, I don't think could go back to the G1 again.
One other option is to look at picking up a used device off Swappa (something like a MyTouch 3G Slide) to hold you over until the new hotness comes out later and renew your contact then.
BusyBox is a set of Linux tools that is pretty much essential for a rooted Android phone.
I have never heard of using Visionary only for temp rooting causing any problems, it only gets dicey if you try to use it for permanent root.
As for advantages of permanent root over temp root, I guess in your case it's mainly a matter of convenience, though I found some rooted apps don't behave properly with Visionary temp root.
I haven't heard anything about a newer version of Visionary and I don't think I'd expect one.
The gfree method isn't too difficult once you have ADB working, I'd just do that.
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I'm no expert but I'll try to answer some things. As for temp rooting, Visionary appears to be relatively safe, but many people warn of using it to perm root as there's a good chance of bricking the phone. It just seems to be less of a hassle to perm root and be done with it. The gfree method seems to be the one that is least risky. I have yet to root my G2 but will probably follow a method that uses Visionary for temp root and gfree for the perm part.
As to the radios, there is often no need to flash a new one and its generally advised NOT to unless you have a very good reason and know exactly what you're doing. The hinge can be bad on some G2s, not so bad on others. Mine is on the loose side but its not really a big deal to me. I can post the link to the "Easy Root" thread if you like. There are a lot of posts from people who used it and have yet to see a reported failure. I'm trying to steel myself up to go through with it. Just wanna have everything in line.
A lot of people it seems are saying wait and don't bother with the G2. Not so sure. It's an awesome phone if you like a physical keyboard. It's plenty fast and capable, even more so when rooted. Playing the technology waiting game is pointless, IMO. There is ALWAYS something bigger and better right around the corner. Everyone is touting the current wave of dual core phones, and soon those will be kicked aside by the tech elites in favor of quad core phones, then THOSE will be swatted aside when something else comes along. Android phone technology is moving faster than any tech I've seen so I think it's better to find a phone you like and chill. So what if some dude you know has a dual core phone? That fact doesn't make a phone like the G2 suddenly slow and incapable. Sure, relatively speaking it's less powerful but that's technology for you. I say if you find a phone you really like, jump on it.

Incredible-S roms on Dinc2?

Now that we have S-off (thanks alpharev donations def on the way) and we are working at getting a recovery wouldnt it be possible to port incredible-s roms, since they are almost the exact same phone? Different radios and a few other things? Im not a dev, just wondering if anyone is considering that. Since there are a ton of roms out already for the Inc-S.
Incredible S has official support of CM (no release yet that I'm aware of, haven't checked in a couple days). I don't see why this can't be extended to the I2.
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Incredible S has official support of CM (no release yet that I'm aware of, haven't checked in a couple days). I don't see why this can't be extended to the I2.
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I miss CM7. I had a G2 that I rooted (painstaking root process by hand and terminal emulator) and that was such a great stable rom. I tried a few others MIUI, Mexidroid... ect. All in all CM7 was the best. I would be so happy if they support it. Although I do have to say, im really starting to get used to Sense. Its a really nice interface. If I had to have one, ide take this of stupid motoblur or touchwiz anyday.
I stopped using Sense in lieu of LauncherPro some time ago as that was the environment I was use to while using CM7. Can't wait to get back to CM7 so the bloat is gone and I get the unleash the full potential of my I2.
I would love to see MIUI, I had it on my original INC and I love it. Weekly updates and it seems like they just keep improving it. Very fast and stable. Long way from where it started.
I recently sold my inc and now I'm stuck with a palm pre plus. I was going to hold out for the droid 3 or bionic but if the inc 2 gets cm support I will have a hard time not buying one.
nfcrockett said:
I recently sold my inc and now I'm stuck with a palm pre plus. I was going to hold out for the droid 3 or bionic but if the inc 2 gets cm support I will have a hard time not buying one.
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We already have a couple CM devs expressing interest.
nfcrockett said:
I recently sold my inc and now I'm stuck with a palm pre plus. I was going to hold out for the droid 3 or bionic but if the inc 2 gets cm support I will have a hard time not buying one.
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wtf a Palm Pre Plus?!?!?! id rather have a blackberry lol.
na all jokes aside..come back to the Incredible side of the device world, you will not be let down.
haha I'm glad someone feels me, I lucked out and have been using my buddy's inc but he ended up selling it so as I type I'm activating the pre *sad face*
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We already have a couple CM devs expressing interest.
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That makes me happy in my pants.
To answer the OP's question. Yes. Incredible S --> Incredible 2 ports will be disgustingly easy.
As a matter of fact, we should be able to make a universal 'patcher' that you can flash after any incredible S rom to make it 100% dinc2 compatible. No porting necessary.
1- Flash Incredible S rom
2- Flash patcher script
3- Done city
deficitism said:
To answer the OP's question. Yes. Incredible S --> Incredible 2 ports will be disgustingly easy.
As a matter of fact, we should be able to make a universal 'patcher' that you can flash after any incredible S rom to make it 100% dinc2 compatible. No porting necessary.
1- Flash Incredible S rom
2- Flash patcher script
3- Done city
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Well that would be Incredible (no pun intented)
It's possible it could be that simple. However, I suspect we will need a different kernel and different driver set. I believe our radio hardware is slightly different (I could be wrong on this), as well as filesystem layout.
Of course, we can't know this for sure until the work actually starts. I suspect it'll be easy to port over, but not THAT easy, unfortunately. Considering AlphaRev is using only a slightly modified hboot from the IS for the I2, it very well could be that easy
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It's possible it could be that simple. However, I suspect we will need a different kernel and different driver set. I believe our radio hardware is slightly different (I could be wrong on this), as well as filesystem layout.
Of course, we can't know this for sure until the work actually starts. I suspect it'll be easy to port over, but not THAT easy, unfortunately. Considering AlphaRev is using only a slightly modified hboot from the IS for the I2, it very well could be that easy
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i would imagine your right. the radios are gonna be different on account of the incS being GSM and the inc2 being CDMA. hopefully it is easy though, and hopefully it comes soon.
deficitism said:
To answer the OP's question. Yes. Incredible S --> Incredible 2 ports will be disgustingly easy.
As a matter of fact, we should be able to make a universal 'patcher' that you can flash after any incredible S rom to make it 100% dinc2 compatible. No porting necessary.
1- Flash Incredible S rom
2- Flash patcher script
3- Done city
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I disagree on how easy that will be, you will need a different RIL (and associated files, including phone.apk and settings.apk most likely) along with a different kernel.
jcase said:
I disagree on how easy that will be, you will need a different RIL (and associated files, including phone.apk and settings.apk most likely) along with a different kernel.
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Everything you mentioned can be done with just a few lines in a patcher. I've done it before. It's not rocket science. And when its done, it can be universally applied to all roms between the two devices. Even a tiny bit of logic to determine source vs sense. (otherwise resulting in two patchers)
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Everything you mentioned can be done with just a few lines in a patcher. I've done it before. It's not rocket science. And when its done, it can be universally applied to all roms between the two devices. Even a tiny bit of logic to determine source vs sense. (otherwise resulting in two patchers)
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I would be very interested in seeing this done in a few lines. I am fully aware of the possibility of doing it, I just don't see it happening easily and in a few lines.
I'm not arguing or bashing, I would just like to see it. Please link me to your previous incarnation of such a patcher
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I would be very interested in seeing this done in a few lines. I am fully aware of the possibility of doing it, I just don't see it happening easily and in a few lines.
I'm not arguing or bashing, I would just like to see it. Please link me to your previous incarnation of such a patcher
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You are getting bashy. And you are clearly trying to belittle my statements by requesting direct links to my work, in order to disprove something you know damn well is possible. We have been doing between the desire/evo/inc/n1/etc for a long time now. Even kiddie kitchens have a button to 'port' a rom.
Regardless of how many 'lines' a script would be, flashing would be dead simple by the end user. And yes, creating it should be very easy on my end.
My d**k is bigger than yours!
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You are getting bashy. And you are clearly trying to belittle my statements by requesting direct links to my work, in order to disprove something you know damn well is possible. We have been doing between the desire/evo/inc/n1/etc for a long time now. Even kiddie kitchens have a button to 'port' a rom.
Regardless of how many 'lines' a script would be, flashing would be dead simple by the end user. And yes, creating it should be very easy on my end.
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Lol ok dude whatever, I made it clear I simply wanted to see it. I'm not a ./autohack dev, so I am unfamiliar with what those kinds of devs are doing, hence me asking to see. Nothing more or less than simple curiosity.
You getting all defensive/pissed over such a simple request, is pretty darn funny. Will have to screen shot this one.

!Hardware Mods for rooting?!

This question is pertaining to hardware. Let me repeat that one more time HARDWARE!.!. NOT-->Software<--NOT
Are we going to have to physically modify the logic board of the phone to obtain root on our evo's? From what I have been reading it is locked down tight. And I have followed other projects of modding and hacking software and hardware, e.g. ps3, tivo, and such, and with more updates that come out the more impossible it is to be hacked, which in turns requires hardware modifications. Is this going to happen with the evo?
No, just some extra time to crack the bootloader.
Thank you good Sir.
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Thank you good Sir.
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No problem. Some devs are just on the Evo 3D getting that taken care of, but it'll be cracked for the Evo in time.
Ya I figured, it makes since, its a new device. I just might go back the NS4g, only thing is no hdmi. Netflix runs smother on my phone then my tv.
I'd be satisfied with a Sticky Temp root. 90% of what I want is Wifi Tether and remove some bloatware.
The 3D is built different than 4G even though both bootloaders may be locked down as tight, the OS might not be as tightly locked down on 4G as on 3D.
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I'd be satisfied with a Sticky Temp root. 90% of what I want is Wifi Tether and remove some bloatware.
The 3D is built different than 4G even though both bootloaders may be locked down as tight, the OS might not be as tightly locked down on 4G as on 3D.
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That would be nice. I like the 3D, if they can get that rooted in the near future, I will just use my upgrade for that.

New to rooting, have some questions. New phone or no?

I'm thinking about getting a new phone. Maybe someone can offer me some info to help me choose. I have a htc evo 4g now. I've been thinking bout rooting it. But a new phone might just be better. I really like my htc though so I was thinking bout a evo 3d maybe. Possibly another brand. I'm not much of a fan of motorola or samsung. But they seem to be getting better. I want to have wifi tethering so I know i'll have to root if I stay with htc. I really like the sense 3.0 my gf has on her evo 3d. The other thing is the ram for storing apps. I only have 512 with my evo and even less is usable. My toshiba thrive has 3gb, I've heard app space is all in the software. Is there a possibility to get a rom that runs sense 3.0 with ics? Would this give me more room to store more apps as well? Thanks.
Edit: My sprint contract is almost up. I think the beginning of july. I don't know if I'm going to stay. Might take whatever phone I get to boost or something.
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blwnv8 said:
I'm thinking about getting a new phone. Maybe someone can offer me some info to help me choose. I have a htc evo 4g now. I've been thinking bout rooting it. But a new phone might just be better. I really like my htc though so I was thinking bout a evo 3d maybe. Possibly another brand. I'm not much of a fan of motorola or samsung. But they seem to be getting better. I want to have wifi tethering so I know i'll have to root if I stay with htc. I really like the sense 3.0 my gf has on her evo 3d. The other thing is the ram for storing apps. I only have 512 with my evo and even less is usable. My toshiba thrive has 3gb, I've heard app space is all in the software. Is there a possibility to get a rom that runs sense 3.0 with ics? Would this give me more room to store more apps as well? Thanks.
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I would wait till that new Evo drops if you have a upgrade coming.. If not and you can buy a 3D still try one out..
reaper24 said:
I would wait till that new Evo drops if you have a upgrade coming.. If not and you can buy a 3D still try one out..
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Thanks. I edited my post. Dunno if I'm going to stay on sprint. I was thinking the 3d cause they can be had relitavely cheap and won't change my contract. Can switch to boost or whatever if I like.
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I would definitely NOT recommended upgrading to an Evo 3D. Wait for the Evo 4G LTE if you want to stick with the Evo line. There are other, better phones out there than the 3D, even from other manufacturers.
As for rooting your current Evo 4G, there are Sense 3.0 roms available. I don't believe there are any ICS + Sense 3.0 roms, but I don't keep up with Sense at all. If you need more app storage, you can always partition your SD card and use the SD-Ext partition to store apps & data. You do, of course, need to be rooted to take advantage of an ext partition. Without partitioning, the Sense 3.0 roms will actually leave you with less storage space. AOSP roms will generally give you more space. With a decent sized SD card, you won't have to worry about space for apps.
Since my suggestion is to wait for the LTEvo, I'd go ahead and root the 4G. From there you can use the wireless tether, and/or flash any rom you want. Just be sure to read, read, and then read some more. Understand what you're doing before you do it. With the latest hboot (2.18), you have to use the HTCdev method to unlock the bootloader. You'll still be s-on, and you'll have to flash via fastboot. I'd suggest going ahead with Captain Throwback's method to downgrade and get s-off. From there, your options are limitless.
The fine folks here at xda will be happy to help you out along the way,, just be sure to do your own research. If you get stuck in the process and searching hasn't yielded any answers, then post questions (or send me a pm, I'm happy to help),
Good luck! Hopefully you don't jump the gun and get an Evo 3D, there are much better phones out now and coming out in the near future. The 3D is barely even an upgrade.
Thanks plainjane. The evo 3d is cheap round here. Usually $125-150. The ram is doubled and a 1.2ghz dual core would be better than what I have. I don't see the htc one being much of a upgrade either. I don't care much bout the speed of the camera and taking pics fast. Plus i'm not sure i wanna sign another 2 year contract. The one thing that really turns me off is the non removable battery. Hopefully it will have really good battery life. I still like to have the option to buy extended batteries if i want. What other phones would you suggest?
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I agree with the previous comments about waiting on the new HTC phones to upgrade, I wouldn't waste your upgrade on a 3D.
I think you should definitely explore rooting your current Evo to check out some of the awesome custom Roms that are out there, including Sense 3.0 roms. Rooting and partitioning your SD card (maybe upgrade your card) will give you all the storage space you need. It will bring new life to your phone and help pass the time until your contract is up. Me personally, I'm waiting to see how Sprint rolls out the network upgrades/LTE before I get into another 2 year contract. I have a rooted Evo and it does everything I need, I don't need a new phone that is restricted by slow 3G.
Do you know which Hboot you have? Do some rooting research actually, do a lot of research and ask questions. Its not as hard as it seems.
And remember to back up your SD card and Nandroid if do decide to root.
Good luck
gonowhere said:
I agree with the previous comments about waiting on the new HTC phones to upgrade, I wouldn't waste your upgrade on a 3D.
I think you should definitely explore rooting your current Evo to check out some of the awesome custom Roms that are out there, including Sense 3.0 roms. Rooting and partitioning your SD card (maybe upgrade your card) will give you all the storage space you need. It will bring new life to your phone and help pass the time until your contract is up. Me personally, I'm waiting to see how Sprint rolls out the network upgrades/LTE before I get into another 2 year contract. I have a rooted Evo and it does everything I need, I don't need a new phone that is restricted by slow 3G.
Do you know which Hboot you have? Do some rooting research actually, do a lot of research and ask questions. Its not as hard as it seems.
And remember to back up your SD card and Nandroid if do decide to root.
Good luck
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Thanks. I def wouldn't waste my upgrade on a 3d. I was just going to sell my evo and buy a 3d on craigslist. Might even be able to break even. I rooted my vizio vtab so I'm kinda familiar. Once you root a evo do you have to flash a rom? When I rooted my tablet it was the same as it was before, just had superuser access. Only did that to free the update service. I've been doing alot of reading. I know I have the newest hboot. From what I've read it will be some fun rooting it. Where can I learn more bout flashing roms and kernels? I've done a good bit of reading but are there any good informative videos?
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blwnv8 said:
Thanks. I def wouldn't waste my upgrade on a 3d. I was just going to sell my evo and buy a 3d on craigslist. Might even be able to break even. I rooted my vizio vtab so I'm kinda familiar. Once you root a evo do you have to flash a rom? When I rooted my tablet it was the same as it was before, just had superuser access. Only did that to free the update service. I've been doing alot of reading. I know I have the newest hboot. From what I've read it will be some fun rooting it. Where can I learn more bout flashing roms and kernels? I've done a good bit of reading but are there any good informative videos?
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No, you won't have to flash a rom but, you will probably want to after all the work to unlock it. It took me a week or two to flash after unlocking, and I was on the previous hboot that was a little easier. There should be rooting guides in the development section of the forum and there's also videos on youtube. I used Android Forum a lot at the beginning, they are very user friendly to what may seem like a silly question. Flashing is easy compared to the unlocking aspect, just remember to backup everything, make a Nandroid and wipe everything except sd card prior to flashing.
Does anyone know if you need to unroot before getting the new EVO LTE?
bard77 said:
Does anyone know if you need to unroot before getting the new EVO LTE?
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No, I don't think you'll have to even turn over your phone. When I get a new phone I'm keeping my Evo to continue flashing and using it as a kind of media toy!!!

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