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Hello everybody,
I do respect all the work most of you invested in creating new Android roms. The only problem I see is that most of the roms are based on latest Android versions as Froyo. We need to admit that we have a pretty slow device so from my point of view a Donut rom is something more feasible for our hardware. I was wondering if there is any stable Donut rom you could recommend.
Thank you
Considering that there are G1s out there running Gingerbread already, and they have half the memory of the TP2, I'd say your concern is misguided.
candin1977 said:
Hello everybody,
I do respect all the work most of you invested in creating new Android roms. The only problem I see is that most of the roms are based on latest Android versions as Froyo. We need to admit that we have a pretty slow device so from my point of view a Donut rom is something more feasible for our hardware. I was wondering if there is any stable Donut rom you could recommend.
Thank you
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if you are so desperate to get an donut rom you could check over @ neopeek, i saw an eclair and donut rom there if im correct.
One of my first work has been a port of Myn's Warm Donut with working 3D on Diamond! If more people request this I may have a look but can't say atm if all of the newer kernels would work...
Hi. I agree if we consider the Ram. What about the processor? Both devices have processors of the same generation.
candin1977 said:
Hello everybody,
I do respect all the work most of you invested in creating new Android roms. The only problem I see is that most of the roms are based on latest Android versions as Froyo. We need to admit that we have a pretty slow device so from my point of view a Donut rom is something more feasible for our hardware. I was wondering if there is any stable Donut rom you could recommend.
Thank you
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I felt the same way until I tried Gingerbread. GB0XA is the best (speed wise) option I have found for a non-OC RHOD400.
I'll throw in a +1 for this as well,I would love to see donut running on here,froyo and gingerbread are nice,and yes,the g1 technically does run gingerbread,but have you ever actually used it? It's painfully slow compared to donut,and I have a feeling our phones are probably the same way considering how similar they are.
msnuser111 said:
I'll throw in a +1 for this as well,I would love to see donut running on here,froyo and gingerbread are nice,and yes,the g1 technically does run gingerbread,but have you ever actually used it? It's painfully slow compared to donut,and I have a feeling our phones are probably the same way considering how similar they are.
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Donut was abandoned. There's probably some old images around, but they won't run very well. Enjoy!
arrrghhh said:
Donut was abandoned. There's probably some old images around, but they won't run very well. Enjoy!
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The only thing I liked about Donut was the codename.
....Mmmm.... Donuts...
From what I understand froyo shouldnt be much more of a system resource hog than donut was (I believe reading it was actually supposed to be faster but I'm not sure) so it really shouldn't have too big an impact on performance. I've found froyo speeds on certain builds to be quite acceptable.
killerkhatiby009 said:
From what I understand froyo shouldnt be much more of a system resource hog than donut was (I believe reading it was actually supposed to be faster but I'm not sure) so it really shouldn't have too big an impact on performance. I've found froyo speeds on certain builds to be quite acceptable.
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lol cute. I assume you mean that speeds on XDAndroid's Froyo is not acceptable.
We found the vast majority of the populace would rather take a *slight* performance hit, for better resolution (HDPI vs MDPI).
I assume that's the sore spot as far as speed goes. I find FRX06 to be quite snappy, thank you very much.
Since CM7 and MIUI are both AOSP based ROMs, and CM7 is fairly close to fully working, does that mean that MIUI would also benefit from the same efforts that got CM7 to where it is right now?
Does the release of the gingerbread source code help with this at all? Is it a lack of drivers that holds MIUI back?
Can someone please clarify whether or not I might be able to actually use MIUI on my Epic in the near future, and have everything work, or is it a pipe dream?
i too would love it, i had it on my evo and was super fast and amazing only downside i saw was lack of 4g but i don't really use it much anyway so not so much of a bother for me...
I believe that it will progress along with cm7.
Cd's or tapes?
Since a lot of stuff is still wonky/glitchy, and the ICS ports are still not perfect.
Is the point of getting ICS just to say you have it?
Or are there certain advantages to running ICS that I am not aware of?
I am on ILWT btw.
Why run ILWT?
Biggest reason I run it is because the UI to me is THAT much better than GB or anything else I've used. The ROMs are stable enough, fast enough, and include all the features I need to get by day to day.
This sounds more of a troll post, but meh.
I've been running ICS since Andromadus alpha 1, and as a DD since alpha 4. Yes there have been several glitches (alpha 5 was unusable) and several things broken such as the camera, but running an alpha or beta build is what produces the feedback and usage stats the devs need to make a great RC. It also kicks the OEM's in the tail to release drivers and possibly new roms for our devices if the devs AND users can illustrate a need. Aside from that, ICS can renew an aging device with new functionality and refined looks. I've rediscovered my own aging device, and for the first time started to realize its capabilities as a real, almost tablet-like, computing device and not just an alarm clock or a way for telemarketers and my wife to bug me.
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It is not a troll post. I am running ILWT because it is stable, fast, and the battery life is great.
If I am not going to use the stock ICS ui, then should I even bother switching to ICS?
Like, I have a custom Go Launcher theme that is pretty damn sick, and I never use the stock apps for anything except stock market...
convolution said:
It is not a troll post. I am running ILWT because it is stable, fast, and the battery life is great.
If I am not going to use the stock ICS ui, then should I even bother switching to ICS?
Like, I have a custom Go Launcher theme that is pretty damn sick, and I never use the stock apps for anything except stock market...
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I must say the ICS Roms are much smoother than any other rom I've ever used and I've had a single hot reboot since first DD worthy release. Battery isn't remarkable but that is cause they haven't been optimized yet, stabilize then optimize. In your case I might wait more for optimized, but hey! Nandroid, wipe, install and try it a bit, you may just fall in love !
That is sound advice, noneabove.
Yes, I do believe the best thing to do at this point is for me to stfu and try it.
ICS ROMS are great. The best reason in my opinion is for developing/ testing purposes. They are smooth and stable.
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i flash every update to test it but its a looong way from me using it.
not as stable, not as funtionable, not as good batterylife and right now, not the same performance.
so i use ILWT for same reasons as you until the ICS roms are atleast as good.
i figure that there are enough people reporting bugs anyway, they dont need me.
atm im using cm7.2 on everyday basis but i do like to test other/newer roms to see if they might got some additional functionality i could need..
like actualy usb host mode what doesnt seem to work on cm7.. ive read it should work from ics on so im happy projects like virtuousrom exist to im able to try
I think all would agree that an official Cyanogen CM9 build for the Fire would be the best thing that can happen. I went to the Cyanogen forum asking them about a CM9 for the Kindle Fire.
A staff response was this:
Talk to one of those xda devs and see if they are working on getting the code into the CM tree. As long as someone is willing to maintain it to whatever standards CM requires (of which, I don't know... they would need to contact a dev or submit it to find out), I doubt CM would turn away the code to incorporate it into the official tree.
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Thread is here: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/40230-i-dont-want-an-an-xda-port-of-cm9-for-the-kindle-fire
I have seen it mentioned here in the cm9 thread.
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Sorbo, thank you for your offer, but once this ROM gets just a little bit more stable, CyanogenMod will accept it as an official rom and we can use their GitHub, bugtracker and review for all these things. We just need more developers at this point.
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Any way i can help?
First of all: You didn't have to create any thread like this. If it's considered as stable enough, it gets merged into the CM tree.
symbiiote said:
Any way i can help?
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And you can help by fixing the bugs that exist in the current build.
bl1nkk said:
First of all: You didn't have to create any thread like this. If it's considered as stable enough, it gets merged into the CM tree.
And you can help by fixing the bugs that exist in the current build.
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So are you of the opinion that there's a high likelihood that we will be seeing an official CM9 release for the Fire? Because I looked at the devices Cyanogen plans to support with CM9, and the Kindle Fire wasn't on that list.
BorrowADolla said:
So are you of the opinion that there's a high likelihood that we will be seeing an official CM9 release for the Fire? Because I looked at the devices Cyanogen plans to support with CM9, and the Kindle Fire wasn't on that list.
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I think this thread here is the "unofficial" cm9 that your looking for. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411895
Once they get stuff working properly I'm pretty sure it will then get added to the official CM9 section. I could be wrong though so don't quote me on that lol.
gamy2121 said:
I think this thread here is the "unofficial" cm9 that your looking for. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411895
Once they get stuff working properly I'm pretty sure it will then get added to the official CM9 section. I could be wrong though so don't quote me on that lol.
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Can someone explain the advantages of CM9 over CM7, I loaded the current build of ICS and I could not see any advantage at all, matter of fact it ran quadrant bench mark slower then CM7.
Also is the quadrant bench mark a good way the measure on rom against the other, I've been setting up each rom, MiUi, cm7, ics , running quadrant, then adding V6 supercharger, then the 2 different kernals etc. to see which combo gives my fire the best performance. Is there a better way to compare ?
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Can someone explain the advantages of CM9 over CM7, I loaded the current build of ICS and I could not see any advantage at all, matter of fact it ran quadrant bench mark slower then CM7.
Also is the quadrant bench mark a good way the measure on rom against the other, I've been setting up each rom, MiUi, cm7, ics , running quadrant, then adding V6 supercharger, then the 2 different kernals etc. to see which combo gives my fire the best performance. Is there a better way to compare ?
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It's all personal preference, some people just want the latest and greatest ROM and will deal with not having some stuff working. Some need a more stable ROM for whatever reason. I really don't pay to much attention to quadrant scores as long as a ROM performs nicely for me that's what matters.
Also with the Kernels, although I haven't tried any on my Fire yet I do know that they will perform differently on different peoples hardware. Like on the Evo 4g Alot of people like a certain kernel and it works great for them, but when I try it on mine it's not so great and I get random reboots and other weird things going on.
As long as any combo of Rom/Kernel works for you the way you need your fire to run then I would just stick with it.
Thanks for the reply, You make a good point..
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Can someone explain the advantages of CM9 over CM7, I loaded the current build of ICS and I could not see any advantage at all, matter of fact it ran quadrant bench mark slower then CM7.
Also is the quadrant bench mark a good way the measure on rom against the other, I've been setting up each rom, MiUi, cm7, ics , running quadrant, then adding V6 supercharger, then the 2 different kernals etc. to see which combo gives my fire the best performance. Is there a better way to compare ?
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CM7 is an operating system designed for mobile phones, that is more or less tweaked and patched into looking ok on a tablet.
CM9 is designed for tablets, and has a lot of features that you don't get in CM7.
And finally, comparing the quadrant scores of a 'nearly stable' ROM (CM7) to a pre-alpha that doesn't have 100% working drivers (CM9) isn't exactly apples to apples.
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So are you of the opinion that there's a high likelihood that we will be seeing an official CM9 release for the Fire? Because I looked at the devices Cyanogen plans to support with CM9, and the Kindle Fire wasn't on that list.
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I'm quoting gamy2121 for that. He's right.
gamy2121 said:
I think this thread here is the "unofficial" cm9 that your looking for. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411895
Once they get stuff working properly I'm pretty sure it will then get added to the official CM9 section. I could be wrong though so don't quote me on that lol.
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Why do people keep saying cm 9 is specifically for tablets? CyanogenMod keeps all its maintained devices on the latest Android version regardless of if it's a phone or tablet. Also, isn't the only devices officially running ICS, phones? However, from what i understand, the way Google is doing things is that ICS isn't specific to being a phone or tablet OS but rather both a phone and tablet OS
No. Xoom got ICS today, Samsung Galaxy Tab is going to be getting it. They essentially built on top of Honeycomb to bring the same/a similar experience to mobile phones.
The entire interface between a phone with ICS, and a tablet with ICS are completely different. Give it a try, and you'll see why it's a tablet OS, as compared to CM9.
Oh, and in regards to the CyanogenMod questions: CM has versions. So CM7 is Gingerbread, CM8 would have been honeycomb, and CM9 is ICS. Just because Cyanogenmod7 can run on a tablet, doesn't mean it was designed for it. CyanogenMod runs on the HP Touchpad, and it sure as hell wasn't designed for that.
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No. Xoom got ICS today, Samsung Galaxy Tab is going to be getting it. They essentially built on top of Honeycomb to bring the same/a similar experience to mobile phones.
The entire interface between a phone with ICS, and a tablet with ICS are completely different. Give it a try, and you'll see why it's a tablet OS, as compared to CM9.
Oh, and in regards to the CyanogenMod questions: CM has versions. So CM7 is Gingerbread, CM8 would have been honeycomb, and CM9 is ICS. Just because Cyanogenmod7 can run on a tablet, doesn't mean it was designed for it. CyanogenMod runs on the HP Touchpad, and it sure as hell wasn't designed for that.
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So if I want real ICS experience on my tablet, I will need some other port and not CM9. That's what you're telling me?
BorrowADolla said:
So if I want real ICS experience on my tablet, I will need some other port and not CM9. That's what you're telling me?
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That sounds like what he said, but it's not true at all. The CM9 build maintained by JackpotClavin has a great tablet UI and it's a seriously promising ROM. It's way more tablet-y than CM7. I just wish I could figure out a way to use the dead space at the top and bottom (portrait) or on the sides (landscape). I could stick a weather widget in there or something.
That's not what I meant to imply. If you want a tablet experience: CM9 is the way to go.
HeWhoWas said:
That's not what I meant to imply. If you want a tablet experience: CM9 is the way to go.
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CM9 is nice, but I have a pretty good CM7 tablet experience as well. Which I will stick with until CM9 is ready (it's not IMO).
I use ADW. I have the Dock bar completely hidden and have the desktop set to expand. Notification bar is hidden and can be brought back with a simple swipe down. Swipe up show's notifications. Volume Control is used. You can see it at the top in the top pic. It is set to disappear after a couple seconds. Same thing with Button Mapper. Everything is themed to look like ICS.
Can anyone reccomend a solid, fast and battery-friendly ROM for my old Epic? Currently I use Paranoid Android, and while very nice, the battery life and speed of opening apps and such is disappointing.
Thanks!
Jedman67 said:
Can anyone reccomend a solid, fast and battery-friendly ROM for my old Epic? Currently I use Paranoid Android, and while very nice, the battery life and speed of opening apps and such is disappointing.
Thanks!
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CM10.1 has been good all the way around for me. Do you use bluetooth?
DynamicN said:
CM10.1 has been good all the way around for me. Do you use bluetooth?
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nope. I"ll give it a whirl but i have no interest in flashing a new rom every week or so - only intersted in stables, not nightlies
Jedman67 said:
nope. I"ll give it a whirl but i have no interest in flashing a new rom every week or so - only intersted in stables, not nightlies
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I've had issues with some stables as well as some nightly's myself, so I don't think it makes too much of a difference IMO on what it's technically called. I'm currently on the 20130101 build of CM10.1 and have been running it for over a month with only one random reboot and no issues at all. If you don't use bluetooth then I'd recommend it.
Do you mean F-A-S-T really? CM7.2 runs fastest amongst all plain, untouched ROMs on my device.
I know CM10.1 is buttery smooth, but it's still Android 4.x. It still bogs a yearold phone down somewhat (you may not feel that, anyway, I don't feel bogged down THAT much but it counts). And that's where a very clean 2.3 build like CM7 come in handy. Plus app compatibility is better, if you're not into Android 4.x specific apps.
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You could try Pac-man Rom. I've only had one reboot. And it's pretty snappy opening apps.
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Thanks. I"ll give both those a shot. It needs to be fast and stable because im giving my wife my old phone, and she is not nearly as technically minded as I am - i just upgraded to a Galaxy S III with LTE - and I'm hooked. Only drawback is the GS3 needs a physical keyboard variant.
If its for someone not technical you should use either CM7 or The Peoples Rom. They seem to have the best battery life and are the most stable.
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CM7 and the GB TouchWiz roms seem to be the most speed and battery-efficient roms for our devices, but honestly the newer JB roms like PACMan/Provision/CM10/etc. have been pretty damn stable and impressive, depending on how you use it.