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The sub-standard quality of the supplied earphones prompted me to look for a better alternative. The 2.5 to 3.5mm adaptor is a good one but it negates the use of the control console (phone buttons, mic., etc), so I decided to make my own connector which I fitted above the control console. I can now use any 'quality' headphones to listen to music and use the phone handsfree function.
Its pretty easy to do, if you know how to solder, which is not difficult in itself. If anyone wants more detail of what I did or wants me to make a connector for them, let me know.
Yes, what a great job.
i am thinking the same thing, please tell us more information how to do that, and more pictures.
thank you.
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The sub-standard quality of the supplied earphones prompted me to look for a better alternative. The 2.5 to 3.5mm adaptor is a good one but it negates the use of the control console (phone buttons, mic., etc), so I decided to make my own connector which I fitted above the control console. I can now use any 'quality' headphones to listen to music and use the phone handsfree function.
Its pretty easy to do, if you know how to solder, which is not difficult in itself. If anyone wants more detail of what I did or wants me to make a connector for them, let me know.
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Superb!! Way to go, M8!
2.5 to 3.5 adaptor based on std earpiece
Please can you let me know how much, I want to use my sennheiser earphones.
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nice i wanted to make the same but a few things held me back
1 canabalizing the working headset could cause problems if the stereo wiring in the xda headset were poor quality and i could end up having to listen to music in the bus played by the normal speaker on the xda adding to the enjoyment of the rest of the pasangers
2 if the length of the mic and buttons had to be near my mouth the length of rest added headset would be added making me look like a d00d who were a bit too much into rubber and of cause the added lenght could cause music quality loss not that i would notice with the music i listen to
I would like to see the details and more pictures if possible. Thanks.
amaaaaaaaazing!! can you please show us how did you make it? :?:
well i asume he just strip the wires and solver them on to the connector of the female 3.5 minijack connector
not sure what he pictures should show some light on
I've been asked to formally write up the process and include further pictures. I shall be doing this this week and will post it when complete.
I would like to know how to do this also.
Don't waste your time soldering, and cutting, and fixing up your existing wires.
The wire is already available on the market.
I use in in my AUX-INPUT in my car so that the sound comes out the speaker system in my BMW, and the microphone remains enabled. The sound is fantastic. In addition, you can use the wire to listed attach to headphones, (listen to music) while the microphone stays enabled.
Here are the two places you can purchase the cable... (I am in no way affiliated to either).
www.arkon.com : the part number is ADPT04 - and it cost $9.95. You have to call in the order - it's not on their website. (it ended up costing me $13.95 shipping included - to CANADA!\)
www.handheldcanada.com - Same part number... different price (17.95 Canadian PLUS shipping).
Enjoy.
I can't get wired headsets to work with my white mytouch 4g phone. I've tried diddy beata, bose, skullcandy, plantronics 216, and others. My phone shows the headset icon at the top, but the mic and controls don't work. I've gotten a warranty exchange on the phone, took. So, I'm wanting to know:
1.what wired headsets work for you?
2. Does it have more than one button controls?
3. What color is your phone?
Try the original headphones that come with the phone, if they don't work either goto your local tmo store with all your equip and see if they can't help you or exchange
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Did that
Original earphones work with controller and mic. That's what makes it even more confusing and frustrating. Even so,t mo did a warranty exchange and again, the box headphones completely worked, but no other one's did. When the 3rd party headphones are plugged in, the symbol shows its a headset, but the controls and mic functionality don't work. I have two going theories on 3rd party headsets for the mt4g, 1. Only one-button wired headsets work. 2. Something is goofy about a group of manufactured phones; ie one's made in china, whiter ones, etc.
People please help me with your responses on 3rd party headphones, as t-mobile and htc have neither been able to help!
Unfortunately, it looks like it only works with the stock headphones.
If you REALLY want to start working on this, i would suggest you root your device and begin cracking down at both the headphones and what is going on behind the scenes.
I've been searching for a while and still haven't found one that works as good as the stock (crap) headset.
Noticing pretty much ALL aftermarket headsets are made for apple and if they work with any android phones, you're lucky.
Use to have sony, but the only thing that worked was the headset for music. No controls and no mic. I'm currently using both the meelectronics m9p and the jlabs j3m along with PlayerPro. For the most part, the controls work ok, but the sound quality is way better than stock. Both has a single button.
For music:
can single click to pause/play
double click to skip forward
triple click to rewind to current song
quad click to go to previous
Single click to answer/end calls does not work. Instead, while on a call, a single click starts the music player.
None of the aftermarket headsets work entirely. From what I can find out, all the aftermarket 3 button headsets use the outside buttons for volume control.
If you're looking for the music controls, stick with your OEMs
If you're looking for better sounding headsets, any aftermarket will do.
If you're looking for both, go bluetooth. I use the MW600.
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Thanks well, that goes along with my other theory that only single buttons will w work. They need to make some simple adapter or s something. Stock headphones blow and hurt my ears. Don't want to use bluetooth because that sucks the battery down big time.
I'm told through htc that a3.5mm to micro usb may be a work-around. Will post if that works and if there's diminished sound quality.
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I've been searching for a while and still haven't found one that works as good as the stock (crap) headset.
Noticing pretty much ALL aftermarket headsets are made for apple and if they work with any android phones, you're lucky.
Use to have sony, but the only thing that worked was the headset for music. No controls and no mic. I'm currently using both the meelectronics m9p and the jlabs j3m along with PlayerPro. For the most part, the controls work ok, but the sound quality is way better than stock. Both has a single button.
For music:
can single click to pause/play
double click to skip forward
triple click to rewind to current song
quad click to go to previous
Single click to answer/end calls does not work. Instead, while on a call, a single click starts the music player.
None of the aftermarket headsets work entirely. From what I can find out, all the aftermarket 3 button headsets use the outside buttons for volume control.
If you're looking for the music controls, stick with your OEMs
If you're looking for better sounding headsets, any aftermarket will do.
If you're looking for both, go bluetooth. I use the MW600.
BTW. Black
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WOW THANKS YOU SO MUCH! i purchase zagg in the earbuds thinking that the music control will work without flawlass with the stock player, but i was wrong...
But with Music PlayerPro Not music player pro(two different app) the music control works
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That is what I've discovered; only single buttons will work. With power amp, long press erl skip the track. I haven't tried the skullcandy with single button with multi-function yet. However, I HIGHLY recommend the rf3 envi earbuds. Amazingly good sound with great bass and a patented technology that eliminates radiation from reaching your ears. Pretty cheap, too! Stol haven't tried the micro usb adapter yet
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Okay, I'm posting this response as a service to all those infuriates out there struggling to find am explanation why we can't use headphones like everybody else. We find this out when its too later to do any refund and we convince ourselves that headphones are not a dealbreaker. Well, before I got the s4i's, I had pretty strong evidence that all headsets would not work impresa they only had one button (including those that boast several clicks do current things-although it won't on your phone). When the s4i came, the suspicion was confirmed. However, I was very disappointed by sound quality anyways, so not a big loss. I felt like I liked my headphones without controls for sound quality anyways. So, fellow mt4g users, jets what to do. The best headset with mic (you can still use the button to ffwd and pause) that I've found so far is the jbuds j4m. Very clear highs and mids, with decent bass. Very durable and look cool. Chord is a little long though. Better still is a bluetooth device made by cellular innovations found on amazon for about 30 bucks. Its a bluetooth with music controls that clips on your short or whatever and you can plug ANY of you favorite headphones into and listen to your tunes.
Hi
Do you have or know about an adapter of this characteristics that allow plug my custom headphones and keep the mic and central button function?
Im looking for use my bose IE2 headphones with my SGS2, but i dont wanna to lose the mic and button controls that have the geniune headset of galaxy S2, then i found this
http://dx.com/p/3-5mm-male-to-femal...one-volume-control-for-cell-phone-84cm-126278
and this
http://dx.com/p/simplism-3-5mm-male...-microphone-for-iphone-ipod-ipad-black-127001
When i plug my bose IE2 directly to the phone, all sounds great, but when i plug mi headphones to the adapter the sound is very very bad, only recover the true sound if i press the central button, and i just keep pressing the button to get the correct sound quality.
I hope not to be the one to have this type of need... ejejej :fingers-crossed:
Best regards
that would be a great acesorie, spetially if they make it with bluetooth support
Yes, but even without the Bluetooth support would be great to use custom headphones without losing the mic and the button.
I had one from "mobilnet" (very cheap) that worked (until I screwed cable after connector) ... iphone have switched last two pins (tip/ring/RING/SLEVE) - in original its left/right/mic/ground and in iphone its left/right/ground/mic so you get signal that go throught mic (I think - you can try to say something and it should change volume) ... if you short circuit with button it will play good ... open adapter and change last two cables (colors cant be for sure ) ... one should be connected to mic+r+l and one only to mic ... change them
(im trying to make adapter for this for two weaks at least but its hard to find 3.5 jack female)
in attachment is my mic control
(green + blue = left + right, yellow is sleve and red is for mic)
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The low quality of the DX products is just that, low quality. You can get such an adapter for the iPhone from more reputable brands, and while the volume buttons on a tri-button setup won't work, the middle one should. Alternatively you can make your own adapter by soldering a jack in place of the plugs on the mic/button cable you have. OR you can do what I used to do back in the iPhone 3GS days and open the Bose headphones and solder a new cable with mic directly to the speakers. If the IE2 are anything like the Bose IEMs I've done this to, it's not a hard thing to do.
Alternatively, there are Bluetooth adapters out there. The Jabra Clipper and the Nokia BH111 are two of the most interesting looking ones out there right now IMHO
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I had one from "mobilnet" (very cheap) that worked (until I screwed cable after connector) ... please open one of the adapters and post picture of cables and board (I have not one that dont work) ... maybe if you short circuit with button it will play good ... open adapter and change last two cables (colors cant be for sure ) ... one should be connected to mic+r+l and one only to mic ... change them
in attachment is my mic control
(green + blue = left + right, yellow is sleve and red is for mic)
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edit: I was right - mic and gnd are changed ... your ground goes throught mic and so it have low power (cause mic works that way) ... if you press button you short mic and ground so it will work like intended
OMTP and CTIA standards are to blame
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/news/2012/1202/021312_Audio-Jack-Detection-Switch.html
you can use extension cord (for 4pin 3.5 jack) with changed mic/gnd or solder it in adapter (that is the easy way - finding cable with 4pin female is hero mission if you cant access ebay)
I have akg K350 they are for iPhone and now I have opened the control - the control is based only on the mic+gnd connector ... research in progress
AKG K350 pinout (iPhone control CTIA standard)
Tip Left Green
Ring Right Blue
Ring Ground Gold
Sleeve Mic Red
iPhone control:
Main button action - short mic and ground
+ and - are coded signals
Cheap headset
Left Green
Right Red
Ground Gold
Mic Stripped
Samsung Galaxy S2 pinout (CTIA standard):
Tip Left
Ring Right
Ring Ground
Sleeve Mic
Android control:
main button - shorted to R98
back button - 133-327 ideal R220
forward button - 437-711 ideal R600
How to use three buttons on iPhone control: http://www.instructables.com/id/Galaxy-Nexus-and-others-headset-remote-with-medi/#step1
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Yes, but even without the Bluetooth support would be great to use custom headphones without losing the mic and the button.
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you mean like the samsung hs3000? the official bluetooth stereo headset has support for custom 3.5mm headphones, an integrated microphone, play, skip forward, backward buttons, volume control, ptt, equalizer and a clip to attach it to your clothes. it has everything you guys want and has been available all along.
I was looking for something like this too, the only options I could find were really cheap ones for a couple of $ or ones over £15 with crappy reviews.
In the end I found this and bought it because it was a decent price and the same brand as my earphones (jays)
It comes with a single earphone you can plug into it, or you can use any other earphone.
I also installed the JAYS headset control app from the play store and you can customise the controls from there.
If I understand what you are actually looking for...it's the HTC HS U350 headset. You can use plug in your own earphones to it, and has a functional control button (one). Works well with the SGS2 and pretty cheap.
bbolgar said:
If I understand what you are actually looking for...it's the HTC HS U350 headset. You can use plug in your own earphones to it, and has a functional control button (one). Works well with the SGS2 and pretty cheap.
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how is build quality though?
ive used the griffin one called ''smart talk'' but that lasts about 1-2 months everytime and costs about £15
ive tried the cheap chinese ones but the microphone quality is abysmal even if they do only cost £3
ive tried a genuine samsung one but that had the connections wrong and quality was terrible untill you pushed the function button then it become normal but you couldnt control anything with the function button
iam thinking the jays one or the htc one look pretty good
i like wired controls as they dont run out of battery like bluetooth headsets and dont drain battery like bluetooth headsets
i need a solid one though because iam fed up paying griffin £15 every 1-2 months and iam a posty so use my phone all day as a music player and the mail bag can cause strain on the wire across my chest
bbolgar said:
If I understand what you are actually looking for...it's the HTC HS U350 headset. You can use plug in your own earphones to it, and has a functional control button (one). Works well with the SGS2 and pretty cheap.
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hi mate,
where you bought this? i cant find it on ebay or other local shops, how is its quality build?
Thanks
I bought it in a phone shop in Hungary, but as I can see, you can buy it on amazon as well.
For me, one of these lasts for about 9-12 months, though I use them every day, phone in my pocket etc.
For what it's worth I had 2 Samsung extension cables lying around for older phones, where it would work miracles, but on SGS2 it simply acts up like almost any of these (blame Samsung for changing things around and making them incopmatible in a year or so). I feed up and bought me Jay a-Jays One+ and never looked back. Good build quality and good sound, mic working as it should and apk is doing the rest for my preference and usage.
buxz777 said:
i need a solid one though because iam fed up paying griffin £15 every 1-2 months and iam a posty so use my phone all day as a music player and the mail bag can cause strain on the wire across my chest
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I don't think I can comment on the durability of the jays ones yet since I've only had them for just over a month (since the end of may) but I've used them almost daily since I bought them and have had no problems yet.
again, i can only recommend the original samsung hs3000. it offers the most features of the available stereo bluetooth headsets with phone capabilities, and at about 20 pounds, it is just as cheap as those lousy 3rd party aftermarket headsets but obviously is much better.
i have had it for about 7 or 8 months now and the battery life is still great. with 1 hour of music a day and another 1-2 hours of connected standby with the occasional call i can get through almost a week without recharging (if only the same thing were true with the phone itself ).
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again, i can only recommend the original samsung hs3000. it offers the most features of the available stereo bluetooth headsets with phone capabilities, and at about 20 pounds, it is just as cheap as those lousy 3rd party aftermarket headsets but obviously is much better.
i have had it for about 7 or 8 months now and the battery life is still great. with 1 hour of music a day and another 1-2 hours of connected standby with the occasional call i can get through almost a week without recharging (if only the same thing were true with the phone itself ).
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its a nice headset dont get me wrong ive owned two of them however the call button is huge and it always accidently calls someone for me because there is no lock on the call button and it is so easy to press by mistake , the amount of people i called by mistake was unreal
also the battery life isnt the best , about 6 hours mx music playback , bearing in mind i can work an 11 hour day , it wont even make it through a working day for me playing music all day (iam a posty and music all day is vital) so that means that iam then carrying around a bluetooth headset that has no battery and leaves me with a phone and headphones with no mic which is pretty useless for a handsfree situation
yu may love the samsung bluetooth adapter and thats great but for me it wasnt what i want/need and was pretty much useless for me if it cant even make it through the working day and that call button is huge and right on the front where it can easily be pressed
so yep its a nice bluetooth headset if thats what you need but i think the o/p and people like me no it exsists , dont like it or it doesnt fit our needs and we want a wired adapter so we can use our own headphones yet control our music and speak through them as well iam sure if we wanted a bluetooth headset then the thread title would be different dude
have nice evening and thanks for the suggestion again but its just not what we are after
ah, ok. i didn't know you already had it. i thought my previous post was overread and i thought to suggest it again
you are right, the big call button and some other minor things might not be for everyone. although, if battery life was that bad for you, i would suggest plugging the original headset with microphone in the hs3000, so you'd have bluetooth as long as it lasts and still having a 2nd option. without carrying 2 separate sets of earphones.
however, it is too late now apparently.
Try nokia ad-54 its works like a Charm
Nokia Ad-54
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-Earph...Phone-Nokia-M011-/180666515232#ht_2570wt_1139
this works for me
are you using it with nokia? android dont have signals for so much buttons (as I know)
Hey, how do you use this? also have it! It has a smaller connector, is there any adaptor?
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So I have had iPhones before, and I have a set of Klipsh Image One headphones with a mic and remote. I'm not really caring about the remote, but the mic doesn't work on the SGS3. It worked on my HTC Titan WP7 phone, so I thought it was some kind of standard, but apparently not.
I've done prelim research and found that the stock in-ear headsets that come with the phone have the mic and ground reversed from the iPhone (WHY would you do that?). Now the issue lies in that I have very small ears, and just about any in-ear phones that I use for more than 5 minutes cause my ears to physically hurt and turn red, even the stock phones with the smallest cushions on them.
If I have to make an adapter just to use the mic, I will, but I'd rather not. I don't care about spending another $100 to get DECENT headphones that have a mic in them, since I use them for work almost every day. Any ideas? I'm looking for something along the lines of Sennheiser, Klipsch, etc, and trying to avoid no-name stuff. Thanks for reading!
EDIT: To rub salt in the wound, my Pantech Burst also works fine with the mic and middle button of the remote. Seems like everyone BUT Samsung uses this standard. Thanks... dicks.
There's a thread about it. I think the title has control talk or something. My search function isn't working on XDA right now for some reason so I cant look it up for you. People posted a lot of headphones and earphones with mic's that work with the S3 so if you can find it you should have a variety to choose from
klipsch s4a?
I though I'd ask you guys as you'd know best.
I have some excellent sounding Klipsch x10i but the volume buttons don't work on my Samsung Galaxy S III I9300
I was looking at this but it says it will not work with S3/S4
Is there anyway around this?
Thanks
This could be the answer but is there a cheaper option?
cramhead said:
I though I'd ask you guys as you'd know best.
I have some excellent sounding Klipsch x10i but the volume buttons don't work on my Samsung Galaxy S III I9300
I was looking at this but it says it will not work with S3/S4
Is there anyway around this?
Thanks
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I am afraid not
I am looking for something likes this very long but could find a solution.
The thing you found seems great... I hope it works
Samsung has their own propietary headphones that correctly work with your phone. As far as others, you can get a player that supports customizing the buttons on the headphones, like the one i use Player Pro.
Volume - forget about it, its proprietary. In order to make it to work, you need to crack remote open and replace 2 resistors inside. It's very tedious and these in-line remotes are so small, you might break it before taking it apart.
Regarding control and MIC - it absolutely DOES work. Get JAYS free app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=se.jays.headsetcontrol - and with a single multi-function control button you can play/pause audio and video, pick-up/hang-up calls and use MIC (you don't even need app to use any of these functions for single button and mic use), then also assign double and triple click for playback control to skip Next/Prev tracks and adjust timing between clicks (very important because if timing is too short it will think you did a double click and a single click).
Look into my signature link and over a hundred accessory review I posted on XDA, including headphones with dedicated Apple controls. Everything works great
Btw, how do you like x10i? I have S4A II (supposed to be for android, but they simply removed volume buttons from apple version, leaving a single multi-function control button). My favorite under $100 headphones are UE 600vi with "apple" control, about $59 on amazon. Wireless, I can't get enough of new Plantronics BackBeat Go 2. Also, might get x7i to review, heard some saying it sounds better then x10i? Also, Klipsch released x11i too.
walkman is the best choice:good:
cuongdhytn said:
walkman is the best choice:good:
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Great, another HK spammer who is trying to get to 10 posts with useless short sentence replies just so he/she can start posting links to their product. I'm guessing it's going to be from "onite"? LOL!!!
ControlTalk is owned by Apple
As I said in the title. The ControlTalk protocol seems to belong to Apple. It seems there isn't anyone who has figured out the protocol, or if it needs some kind of logic in the phone to process the commands.
Basically everything I've found involving someones headphone button control app always works for most buttons, but not the volume buttons.
So its either an Apple well kept secret (NDA for vendors like Beats) or some kind of technical limitation which stops it working on non-apple devices.
Even HTC with Beats branding cant support Volume Up and Volume Down on the Apple ControlTalk headphones with Android devices.
Happy to be proven wrong if someone knows more.
D.