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I thought this may be useful to our gurus in development. I am sorry if it is wrong place to post.
Is this a way to unlock CE 6.0 of Windows Phone 7? This I have seen in endgadget. This brings the native CE explorer in Zune. can we use this to bring file explorer in WP7?
Links:
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/download-openzdk-applications/54495-liberate-explorer-zune-hd.html
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/01/liberate-for-the-zune-hd-unlocks-hidden-windows-ce-potential/
Thanks,
Ravi
I can't find the source for that exact project (if you have a link, please post it), but I've spent a lot of time looking at the OpenZDK exploit source code, trying to adapt it to WP7.
There are a couple problems. The first is that you need to be able to install an app on the phone in order to get the exploit to work. Zune already allows you to install third-party apps, so the only problem they had was how to break out of the XNA/managed/C# jail. Then they can distribute the breakout as an executable, and anyone can run it. That won't work on WP7 because the only way to install a third-party app is if you have a developer license and the sourcecode. Or you can download it from the app store, but obviously Microsoft isn't going to allow exploits onto the store (they even have automated checking for the kind of exploit they have over at Zuneboards).
The second problem is even if you were able to run random apps on WP7, the exploit still wouldn't work. Microsoft has gotten a lot more serious about security on WP7, and they've closed off all the easy hacks like that (as far as I can tell, of course I'll keep looking). They didn't take security so seriously on WP7, and accidentally gave developers access to an unsafe memcpy(). In WP7 they have a much more robust security model, and closed that off. Which is sad.
I haven't been able to get pInvoke to work on WP7, or even use pointers. You can get the compiler to generate unsafe code, but the runtime on the phone crashes when it comes to any pointer. pInvoke might theoretically work, it's possible I've just been using it wrong, but I've tried a lot of different things and haven't gotten it to work.
Oh yeah, I found the announcement here:
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/zu...-your-zune-new-version-includes-keyboard.html
Says it's built on openZDK, which means it is using the memcpy() exploit, and my last post wasn't completely off
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Oh yeah, I found the announcement here:
http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/zu...-your-zune-new-version-includes-keyboard.html
Says it's built on openZDK, which means it is using the memcpy() exploit, and my last post wasn't completely off
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I am really sorry, because most of the things you said, i'm not understanding, because I am not a professional developer or for that not even near to that area of coding (am a Pharmacist... my highest knoweldge is little HTML coding).
I am wondering is this will help in any way to access file system in WP7 and build an file explorer kind of app or can we install Totalchrom or resco file explorer kind of app??? using this can we enable bluetooth ftp or internet file download kind of options?
Thanks
lol ya, I guess I should have started with the executive summary. In short, my assessment is no, it doesn't help, because Windows Phone 7 is too different. I really wish it did help.
athompson said:
lol ya, I guess I should have started with the executive summary. In short, my assessment is no, it doesn't help, because Windows Phone 7 is too different. I really wish it did help.
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+1, unfortunately this won't help us at all.
Guys,
There's a new tool comin' close on the horizon - Windows Phone Device Manager, applicable to all WP7 devices. So instead of trying in vain to use chevy, that could possibly harm yr machines, why not simply wait for the tool and help developer Julien Schapman (Schaps at XDA) and his beta team in some way.
Here are some links:
http://twitter.com/touchxperience
http://www.facebook.com/touchxperience/posts/10150105783642342
Regards
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Guys,
There's a new tool comin' close on the horizon - Windows Phone Device Manager, applicable to all WP7 devices. So instead of trying in vain to use chevy, that could possibly harm yr machines, why not simply wait for the tool and help developer Julien Schapman (Schaps at XDA) and his beta team in some way.
Here are some links:
http://twitter.com/touchxperience
http://www.facebook.com/touchxperience/posts/10150105783642342
Regards
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Old News... we've known about TouckXperience for a while now.
could 15 minutes save you 15% on car insurance? have you been living under a rock?
yes....old news
this apps will be avaliable after first update from MS
it will actually be released before the update.
Because I was bored getting hundreds of emails from people asking me to send them WP Device Manager so they can continue to use pirated applications, and because there will be a short term solution for homebrews, I decided not to include my jailbreak tool. I respect other developers and I don’t want to be responsible for piracy, I’ve been contacted by Brandon Watson from Microsoft and I wish to be involved in the official homebrew support on Windows Phone.
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this is from shaps his website.
ceesheim said:
Because I was bored getting hundreds of emails from people asking me to send them WP Device Manager so they can continue to use pirated applications, and because there will be a short term solution for homebrews, I decided not to include my jailbreak tool. I respect other developers and I don’t want to be responsible for piracy, I’ve been contacted by Brandon Watson from Microsoft and I wish to be involved in the official homebrew support on Windows Phone.
this is from shaps his website.
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And Schaps comes through with the vaporware again!! Honestly, I don't think he even does half the stuff he promises. Kinda like a mobile app politician.
Thats good news for us, yup. But schap mentioned that jailbreak tool will not be included and I wonder when NoDo comes, and with no jailbreak, how can I use schap's wp device manager?...
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Thats good news for us, yup. But schap mentioned that jailbreak tool will not be included and I wonder when NoDo comes, and with no jailbreak, how can I use schap's wp device manager?...
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I asked a very similar questiom on Schap's Forum, but got no response. I can only assume that he has found a way to deploy homebrew apps without using the Developer's Tool Hack, such as Chevron. I do believe that he stated this would work after NoDo. I coukd be wrong because I can't find the quote.
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And Schaps comes through with the vaporware again!! Honestly, I don't think he even does half the stuff he promises. Kinda like a mobile app politician.
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I don't think it would be just app deployment cuz you could modify tiles, icons, wi-fi&BT settings, registry and etc and also exchange all kinds of files incl. office between PC and phone.
Besides I fear that as soon as so much expected nodo update goes public chevy will become no-go
chevy is no go
but is chevy a jailbreak or a sideload unlocker? Developers are working on a bonafide jailbreak that gives us really nice admin access...let's allow some of them to work their magic
as far as txp goes, we'll see I'm a beta so if I get a magical email about this, I'll post a story on it...
thanxxxxxx
domineus said:
chevy is no go
but is chevy a jailbreak or a sideload unlocker? Developers are working on a bonafide jailbreak that gives us really nice admin access...let's allow some of them to work their magic
as far as txp goes, we'll see I'm a beta so if I get a magical email about this, I'll post a story on it...
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Bless devs... Shall wait for THAT story
"WP Device Manager beta is almost ready but I will probably need the whole night to finalize it, so I will release WP Device Manager and TouchXperience tomorrow."
Published at Facebook by Julien Schapman on Feb 21, 2011
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"WP Device Manager beta is almost ready but I will probably need the whole night to finalize it, so I will release WP Device Manager and TouchXperience tomorrow."
Published at Facebook by Julien Schapman on Feb 21, 2011
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It's gonna be great. Right now, I'm crossing my fingers
Because I was bored getting hundreds of emails from people asking me to send them WP Device Manager so they can continue to use pirated applications, and because there will be a short term solution for homebrews, I decided not to include my jailbreak tool. I respect other developers and I don’t want to be responsible for piracy, I’ve been contacted by Brandon Watson from Microsoft and I wish to be involved in the official homebrew support on Windows Phone.
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Just found that on http://www.touchxperience.com/. So there will be no unlock tool after the first Update?
DominikZ said:
Just found that on http://www.touchxperience.com/. So there will be no unlock tool after the first Update?
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What date? Did you read latest news? And how do you imagine for example reg tweaks being applied w/o administrative right to the OS, i.e jailbreaking? So keep cool and wait.
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What date? Did you read latest news?
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News are from Monday, 07 February 2011 12:31
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And how do you imagine for example reg tweaks being applied w/o administrative right to the OS, i.e jailbreaking?
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Well that's what I was thinking too. Maybe there is another way? F.e. the hacks get applied, but the phone still stays locked ??
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So keep cool and wait.
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That's what I'm gonna do AFAIK the release date is tomorrow?
Any news on the release? I heard that the beta is out! http://wmpoweruser.com/touchxperience-and-windows-phone-device-center-beta-release/#more-28834
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Any news on the release? I heard that the beta is out! http://wmpoweruser.com/touchxperience-and-windows-phone-device-center-beta-release/#more-28834
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It's just for his beta tester, we must wait... until??... I dont have a glue
As the title suggests... i have a student developer account with APP HUB, can I update PREVIEW mango version (released/releasing these few days) with my phone still?
As i know, currently its the "paid" developers that have access to Preview mango update.
Let me know~ really hoping this works!!
i want to know too please
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As the title suggests... i have a student developer account with APP HUB, can I update PREVIEW mango version (released/releasing these few days) with my phone still?
As i know, currently its the "paid" developers that have access to Preview mango update.
Let me know~ really hoping this works!!
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Student App Hub accounts are identical to normal App Hub accounts.
nop they are not, they are similair but different.
I dont think the beta is coming as soon as they said
https://twitter.com/#!/BrandonWatson/status/83158862823297025
Rats...... but thanks for the update~
The update is indeed for paid and registered mango beta testers. So you do not only have to have a paid account, but you also need to be registered for beta testing Mango.
Further more, if you are such developer and you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore.
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
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The update is indeed for paid and registered mango beta testers. So you do not only have to have a paid account, but you also need to be registered for beta testing Mango.
Further more, if you are such developer and you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore.
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
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Any How to for capturing the traffic, I'm sure tons of people would like to participate if it was easy. Just start Wireshark and upload the log and that's it?
Yeah man, I'm willing to give this a shot when the update comes out, more than willing for the community... jejeje
I would like to know how to do this. I can post whatever comes out... I have an Arrive... We shall see... jejeje
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The update is indeed for paid and registered mango beta testers. So you do not only have to have a paid account, but you also need to be registered for beta testing Mango.
Further more, if you are such developer and you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore.
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
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ok,i'm with an apphub account(student) so the mango update for developers will be available on the dowload section directly on apphub(like the mango SDK 7.1) or i have to register my device ID to my account?
i couldn't myself,it's microsoft to register my device ID to my apphub account it is?
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When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
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I think they'll do something similar to the XBox Dashboard Previews, meaning that ultimately you'll be able to install mango preview on any device, but they'll enable Windows Live sign-in only for registered devices, server side.
Unfortunately Microsoft has always been *****y about these preview things.
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Any How to for capturing the traffic, I'm sure tons of people would like to participate if it was easy. Just start Wireshark and upload the log and that's it?
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I'm no expert in Wireshark. I know how to use it for my own purposes. So this is what I would do, but if someone else has additional suggestions, feel free to help. The updates are over standard http, not https, so that makes it easier.
- Connect your phone to your computer and wait for Zune to be ready with sync.
- Download and start Wireshark.
- Select the network-interface you want to log (to be sure keep only one network-interface enabled, just to be sure you'll capture the correct interface).
- To be sure you capture the traffic from the phone too, go to menu Edit / Preferences. Select User Interface / Capture. And enable option Capture packets in Promiscuous Mode.
- To filter all unwanted data type this in the Filter textbox: http && !tcp.analysis.out_of_order && !tcp.analysis.retransmission
- Start update with Zune.
- When the update is ready, stop the capture and save it to a file.
To test if this works, do the above and use Internet Explorer on your phone. You should see the traffic in Wireshark.
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ok,i'm with an apphub account(student) so the mango update for developers will be available on the dowload section directly on apphub(like the mango SDK 7.1) or i have to register my device ID to my account?
i couldn't myself,it's microsoft to register my device ID to my apphub account it is?
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I clearly said it was for paid and registered developers. Have you paid for your student account? Guess not. So unfortunately this beta is not going available for you. Even if you would register as a beta-tester. I wouldn't know how to do that anyway, because I haven't done that.
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I clearly said it was for paid and registered developers. Have you paid for your student account? Guess not. So unfortunately this beta is not going available for you. Even if you would register as a beta-tester. I wouldn't know how to do that anyway, because I haven't done that.
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Thats interesting... May I ask where you have that information from? I could not find anything on the create.msdn.com (app hub) forums about it. Was it in the news section somewhere?
Quite odd they wont give it to students.
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Thats interesting... May I ask where you have that information from? I could not find anything on the create.msdn.com (app hub) forums about it. Was it in the news section somewhere?
Quite odd they wont give it to students.
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Many sources:
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Ciao,
Heathcliff74
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Many sources:
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Ciao,
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Yes read those, it does not specifically says student accounts wont get it. Brandon watson also tweeted "@arnehelseth Every developer matters. Every. Single. One. Deep breath everyone". Don't know if this means something and is in the right context or not.
The articles just say it will be released to developer unlocked apphub account, which you can normally get by paying 99$ (they dont speak about student unlocks in particular).
"Neowin has received multiple independent tips that the beta will be made available for all devices through the MSDN Create hub for those with developer accounts, on June 22/23, with Microsoft set to make the announcement sometime during the next 24 hours. The beta will not be restricted to "favorite" developers but will be generally available to anyone with a paid subscription, and will be able to be loaded on any of the production devices."
Yes it indicates paid subscription, however does not really rule out student subscriptions since they are pretty much equal to MS. I dont know if we have to take these words literally or if its quickly written.
"The software giant will also offer beta bits for developers to load directly onto their devices, reports Neowin. Mango ROMs will be made available to existing Windows Phone developers via Microsoft’s App Hub development program. Access to the developer program is charged at $99 per year."
Students have free access to the App Hub development program.
I could not find where you need to sign up for the beta, have not read a mention about this. I could not find it in these sources.
You are probably right though that its only for paid subscriptions, since its easier to check who is a ginuine dev. I just wondered since I have not seen a clear "No to student account" post so I was not really sure about what to believe. Thank you for the clearification.
All sources I read stated that you need to have a paid registration. So it does not say 'no students' but students don't pay, so I guess that rules it out.
About the registered Mango beta tester, I don't see it right now, but I'm sure I've read that.
Anyway, we'll wait and see. Speculating now is not of much use.
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All sources I read stated that you need to have a paid registration. So it does not say 'no students' but students don't pay, so I guess that rules it out.
About the registered Mango beta tester, I don't see it right now, but I'm sure I've read that.
Anyway, we'll wait and see. Speculating now is not of much use.
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True, and they can always make a change of heart. Thanks we will see. If students get it, ill try and log the process with wireshark.
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True, and they can always make a change of heart. Thanks we will see. If students get it, ill try and log the process with wireshark.
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Ok. That would be cool. But I have to stress again: If you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore. So if that is a problem for you, then you shouldn't upgrade. What would be interesting to know is, if you have such software that uses native code (like WP7 Root Tools, TouchXplorer, Screencam, etc) already on your phone, will it still be possible to use it after the upgrade?? And.. will the ChevronWP7 unlock survive the upgrade if you have to "prevent relock tweak" applied??
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Ok. That would be cool. But I have to stress again: If you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore. So if that is a problem for you, then you shouldn't upgrade. What would be interesting to know is, if you have such software that uses native code (like WP7 Root Tools, TouchXplorer, Screencam, etc) already on your phone, will it still be possible to use it after the upgrade?? And.. will the ChevronWP7 unlock survive the upgrade if you have to "prevent relock tweak" applied??
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Yes I know. Thats what I wonder as well. Since we could use OEM apps added trough the marketplace. So upgrading with these apps in place might work. Ill also make a few zune backups so I can roll back just in case.
If roottools still works we might be able to set the prevent relock again. Im wondering about the sideload limit, because thats the most annoying thing for me. 3 is not much to sideload and I like to keep the apps Im developing on my phone to test them on the road.
Well Im trying not to get my hopes up for Mango anytime soon, but if its for students also Ill give it a shot. And I can maybe PM you before, if you can think of some things you want me to test out for you.
I generally don't care so much about not being able to:
1. transfer sms and contacts TO sim
2. sync doc, txt, and pdf files, offline, through Zune
3. sync flac or divx files
4. make an offline backup of contacts or of the whole phone configuration
5. create new accent colors
6. toggle wifi/gps/3g data/bluetooth with a single tap from the home screen
7. dictate sms or other speech orders in my native language
etc...
All of the above limitations (and some more) can be tolerable at some degree because of WP7 general superiority in other levels.
BUT...
I'm really pissed off with Microsoft...They have totally abandoned open market phones...First, we had a major error with Mango for LG update, that forced some people to flash a new official rom in order to get it. I never got a tethering update for my open LG and now I don't even get the latest official 7740 update. I don't f$%^ care about carriers. I bought an officially OPEN device and I demand support, or else they can stop selling us illusions...
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I generally don't care so much about not being able to:
1. transfer sms and contacts TO sim
2. sync doc, txt, and pdf files, offline, through Zune
3. sync flac or divx files
4. make an offline backup of contacts or of the whole phone configuration
5. create new accent colors
6. toggle wifi/gps/3g data/bluetooth with a single tap from the home screen
7. dictate sms or other speech orders in my native language
etc...
All of the above limitations (and some more) can be tolerable at some degree because of WP7 general superiority in other levels.
BUT...
I'm really pissed off with Microsoft...They have totally abandoned open market phones...First, we had a major error with Mango for LG update, that forced some people to flash a new official rom in order to get it. I never got a tethering update for my open LG and now I don't even get the latest official 7740 update. I don't f$%^ care about carriers. I bought an officially OPEN device and I demand support, or else they can stop selling us illusions...
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Blame your OEM, not Microsoft for not getting tethering. They are the ones delivering the proper drivers needed for tethering to be enabled. The feature is already built in in Mango. Concerning 7740 you're right. But it has been released when? Yesterday? No update so far has reached all users at the same time. It has always taken a few weeks until every single Windows Phone user out there received an update. Knowing that 7740 won't change much, I personally do not really care about when I will receive it.
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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It doesn't fix the keyboard disappearing issue, so it's pretty much useless. This is by far the biggest annoyance for me right now. Keyboard disappears 10+ times when i'm typing a SMS. And in some apps you can't bring back the keyboard by touching the input box. I have to copy/paste and try again.
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Blame your OEM, not Microsoft for not getting tethering. They are the ones delivering the proper drivers needed for tethering to be enabled. The feature is already built in in Mango. Concerning 7740 you're right. But it has been released when? Yesterday? No update so far has reached all users at the same time. It has always taken a few weeks until every single Windows Phone user out there received an update. Knowing that 7740 won't change much, I personally do not really care about when I will receive it.
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You are right here, but this wouldn't have happened if Microsoft had put strict rules around its ecosystem. It's unacceptable for such a unified quality concept to have basic specs like tethering, managed almost randomly (at will) by the OEMs without Microsoft's supervision. LG has released the firmware for branded phones (so, there is no arguing here that they couldn't have released it because of hardware restrictions) and totally rejected all of those people who have open phones. WHO controls this type of marketing anarchy around one of the most innovative, popular products of the world?
I'm shocked by this management attitude, because I'm a Microsoft customer for over 18 years and I know very well that they are aces in product support. As I mentioned earlier, ιn my first post, this is not the only fault Ι've been through and I'm looking forward to see this company measuring its actions with responsibility and care but, right now I'm totally disappointed.
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So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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is cab sender only for htc? says I need zune wmdu 4.8.2134
contable said:
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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Thanks a lot for this info!
2 threads about the same thing....?
Bla Bla Bla... Close thread, waste of space.
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Bla Bla Bla... Close thread, waste of space.
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It's a general WP7 discussion place and you should be more polite sir.
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2 threads about the same thing....?
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I have made one in the specific LG e900 forum as well, because I use an open LG device, so, the discussion exists in two places to be seen by people who have as well as those who don't have an LG device, but they do have an open device with similar problems.
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I have made one in the specific LG e900 forum as well, because I use an open LG device, so, the discussion exists in two places to be seen by people who have as well as those who don't have an LG device, but they do have an open device with similar problems.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352887
That would be post number three then... Sometimes i dont understand why there is all this hate on this board. Isnt this supposed to be where people come together to innovate and find new ways to use their devices? Not to complain about what they have without contributing anything...
I was referring to this thread, about 10 down from this one...but carry on, I thought it was groundhog's day.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352887
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So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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Can you help me with this? I tried the instructions carefully but it doesn't work says No Update files
The problem? No money because wp not selling so no updates.... microsoft dont work for free....
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i don't understand this thread. is there any actual evidence that they're abandoning open market phones?
"What am I doing, why am I here, what is this about, and where am I going with this."
Hello all. After dealing with rumors, rumors of rumors, and the like, I've finally managed to disclose something I hold very dear to me: the WindowBreak project.
As the name suggests, this is a jailbreak project for Windows Phone 7. I started something a while back that had little success, but through the months, I've managed to figure out something that should bring light into the Windows Phone jailbreaking scene.
Real quick, though:
What this is: A project, with information about some interesting exploits I found, and a call for the community to dive in.
What this isn't: A full fledged jailbreak. Please don't post replies such as "when will XXXX device be supported". It just wastes time, and I assure you, I want every device included.
It also is not a full unlock. Just interop.
The details
So here's the sitch. We all know how Heathcliff74's interop unlock works. XAP files are just ZIP files, and ZIP files can have entries that allow extracting in parent directories.
Interesting thing is, this can be done using the ZipView application, which normally stores data in \Application Data\Volatile\Zipview\<random id>
Thus, creating a directory in a ZIP file called ../../../../provxml will copy all those files into the \provxml\ folder upon extraction.
See what I did there?
Limitations
Of course, there are limitations.
1) We cannot extract into \Windows\. There's a policy that prevents it.
2) The bad one: We can only extract known MIME types, at least to my knowledge. This is because the files are only extracted when they are clicked on in ZipView. And clicking on a .dbz file, for example, will just say the file type is not supported. Bummer.
What we can do...
As mentioned above, this can be used for a fresh out of the box jailbreak for Samsung devices, using provxml. Here's a video of that:
Try it yourself: with a Samsung device, go to http://windowsphonehacker.com/windowbreak and press WindowBreak Me.
In theory, this would be all we need to jailbreak most Windows Phone devices. Unfortunately, Nokia and HTC devices block the registry entries in provisioning files. I'm not sure what the extent of this "whitelist" (or is it a blacklist?) is, and details/tests on this would be appreciated.
What needs to be done...
Nokia: I don't have a Nokia device, but I've been working a great deal on figuring out how to crack it's shell, and have a couple of ideas. If I'm able to get my hands on a Nokia device soon, I'll try some of these unorthodox exploits out, otherwise I'll need some daring volunteers.
HTC: I do have an HTC device, but I can't figure out how to extract the files for the Connection Setup program. If someone can give me details on what the password encryption is on it, etc, for the HTC interop unlock, that would be much appreciated.
Other devices: Not a lot of demand for these (and LG needs no jailbreak, since it has MFG), but if something comes up, feel free to share where the provisioning files exist and I'll see about "windowbreaking" them.
So this is my little project, and I hope the details I'm sharing will lead to further development. My personal device (Samsung Focus) is easily interop unlocked now, without costing me a cent. I'd really like this to be the case for everyone; I'm not saying the $9 unlock for Chevron Labs is bad, in fact, it's greatly supported homebrew. What I am saying, though, is that freedom is still possible, and regardless, any developments made here will further support interop unlocking on Chevron/apphub unlocked devices. With that in mind...
Merry Christmas.
Special thanks to: Heathcliff74 for much of the research and idea behind the exploit
All the supporting members of XDA, who bring appreciation for what we do. Thank you.
Cool! Ridiculous that I didn't think of this myself
I will send you the password of the dbz files when I get home. I don't have it here.
But the real problem for HTC and NOKIA are the whitelists. I've been working on this for the past time. And today I made more progress. I developed a new way of debugging native 3rd party dll's/drivers. U can isolate functions and call them from a test app for unit-testing. This makes testing a lot easier. This will help me find exploits much faster. I can even call the whitelist functions of HTC and NOKIA on my Samsung now Working on it right now.
Good find!!
Heathcliff74
Heathcliff74 said:
Cool! Ridiculous that I didn't think of this myself
I will send you the password of the dbz files when I get home. I don't have it here.
But the real problem for HTC and NOKIA are the whitelists. I've been working on this for the past time. And today I made more progress. I developed a new way of debugging native 3rd party dll's/drivers. U can isolate functions and call them from a test app for unit-testing. This makes testing a lot easier. This will help me find exploits much faster. I can even call the whitelist functions of HTC and NOKIA on my Samsung now Working on it right now.
Good find!!
Heathcliff74
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Haha, I knew you would say that when you saw this. Most credit of this goes to your work, in fact, which gave me much of the idea.
As for the whitelists, do you know exactly how it's blocking? Is just registry blocked, or all non-APN related settings?
^-- This is why I nominated you guys for those free Nokia Lumias. Keep up the good work!
Jaxbot said:
Haha, I knew you would say that when you saw this. Most credit of this goes to your work, in fact, which gave me much of the idea.
As for the whitelists, do you know exactly how it's blocking? Is just registry blocked, or all non-APN related settings?
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Both brands have very similar mechanisms. They both have a driver dedicated to provisioning. The whitelists are implemented in those drivers. HTC has whitelisted only specific registry keys for APN's and stuff. NOKIA does not have the registry on the whitelist at all.
Heathcliff74
Heathcliff74 said:
Both brands have very similar mechanisms. They both have a driver dedicated to provisioning. The whitelists are implemented in those drivers. HTC has whitelisted only specific registry keys for APN's and stuff. NOKIA does not have the registry on the whitelist at all.
Heathcliff74
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Shame it's a whitelist instead of a blacklist :\
Do you know which CSPs are allowed? I've managed to move files around using provxml on my Samsung, but it seems to allow just about anything.
Yeah I want you two to get the free Nokia Lumia's too! You both do great work - thank you keep giving love to the Omnia 7 too please since it's my girlfriend who has the Lumia 800 (dammit!)
Indeed a very cool solution ! Thanks button pressed.
Is it limited to 1st gen samsung devices or does it work on 2nd gen devices too ?
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Indeed a very cool solution ! Thanks button pressed.
Is it limited to 1st gen samsung devices or does it work on 2nd gen devices too ?
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Both first and 2nd gen will work, though some interop won't work on 2nd gen devices (e.g., last I heard, registry editors were all read only)
DBZ Password
030D681B-1DFC-4bd0-A72A-A9B3CCCDA653
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Oh and it was found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18916888
When I go to http://windowsphonehacker.com/windowbreak/
I don't get any buttons, just these text :
WindowBreak
By WindowsPhoneHacker
WindowBreak is a project with the goal of enabling true jailbreaking on Windows Phones.
We believe in freedom, both in gratis and in libre.
For details on WindowBreak, see here [add XDA link here].
BTW Nice worrk, hope to see more nice hacks these Xmas!
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When I go to http://windowsphonehacker.com/windowbreak/
I don't get any buttons, just these text :
WindowBreak
By WindowsPhoneHacker
WindowBreak is a project with the goal of enabling true jailbreaking on Windows Phones.
We believe in freedom, both in gratis and in libre.
For details on WindowBreak, see here [add XDA link here].
BTW Nice worrk, hope to see more nice hacks these Xmas!
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You visit it on your phone, silly
And thanks, forgot to add the XDA links to that page.
Damn, purchased yesterday chevron labs-.-
But great work! I appreciate that!
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You visit it on your phone, silly
And thanks, forgot to add the XDA links to that page.
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Yep Had desctop version in settings
10X it worked like a charm
Wait and hope for a solution for HTC devices
yea I can't wait for this. I have a HTC HD7.
Well done man, exactly what worked also with calling provxml files from the iso storage in DiagProvXML. Just do "../the entire path to iso storage/provxml.ext" this worked also on htc. Although of course your mechanism is different as you have to copy it to the correct folders while we just needed to change the default paths of the drivers to a custom folder.
Well done and nice creative solution. It would be great if you manage to get this working for more devices.
Maybe somebody can somehow find the exact provisioning the Developer Registration Tool makes, so you can use that one as that should be white listed I assume.
The Registration tool actually uses a socket connection to send a partly modified cookie string to the phone. The phone then goes and checks that against microsoft's servers and goes OK.
hey ii was just wonderiing, as nobody rarely mentions the dell venue pro, if something was going to be actually done for it. I know you said dont post stuff liike this but its just that ive never heard something like this or anything done about the Dell Venue Pro.
Thanks
Is the point of this for it to go from out of the box to interop unlocked, or from chevron/dev unlock to interop?
In /Classes Root/ registry part you can add the file type so it's known...