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Anyone know if it's possible to use MHL in conjunction with a microUSB to USB host adaptor to output to HDMI and access an external USB drive at the same time? That'd make the SGS2 an amazing portable media unit.
No, it is not posible. Its an either/or connection to the micro USB port.
Shame, because as you say that would really be a great thing. MHL consortium are considering a number of improvements to the 2.0 MHL spec, so in future devices this may be a possibility.
So MHL can't be used when I'll plug a USB-Hub?
No, sadly not.
It's a shame - for now I'd prefer micro USB & separate HDMI port so USB can be utilised as well as an external display.
As would I, and a lot of others I suspect.
But you've got 16 GB memory and can copy your stuff to the memory and watch it later via MHL on your Flat? So this is not a big problem, I think
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But you've got 16 GB memory and can copy your stuff to the memory and watch it later via MHL on your Flat? So this is not a big problem, I think
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Yes, but 16Gb of FAT32 and you can't copy a file > 4Gb
I would use allshare to stream the movie or whatever to your phone from a laptop and connect the phone to TV via the MHL HDMI adapter...that way you have access to ur laptop's data without being hardwired to it
chizzwhizz said:
I would use allshare to stream the movie or whatever to your phone from a laptop and connect the phone to TV via the MHL HDMI adapter...that way you have access to ur laptop's data without being hardwired to it
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Yes, it helps only if your laptop can't play smoothly a HD video
Has anyone got a generic MHL cable to work with the galaxy s 2 yet?
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lufcmattylad said:
Has anyone got a generic MHL cable to work with the galaxy s 2 yet?
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Not that I'm aware of...
I bought one from Ebay and can't really do anything good with it. Display shows briefly for 3-4 seconds on TV then disappears again. Don't know why.....I hope it's not the device itself because I tested 2 phones, they were bought at the same time, but none of them would work correctly....
If by generic you mean a not samsung one or one not dedicated to the SGS2 then i actually use a one, from ebay or someting like that, everything works perfect you just cant forget to plug power to it, and about the not working one, it seems mine gets jammed by gsm signal (i.e. when receiving a call), so from time to time the image disappears in a blink of noise, maybe that is your problem too, try it in airplane mode.
Oh, I think I misread that question - I have actually used a generic one with my SGSII (a prototype from the MHL consortium) and it worked fine!
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I would use allshare to stream the movie or whatever to your phone from a laptop and connect the phone to TV via the MHL HDMI adapter...that way you have access to ur laptop's data without being hardwired to it
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No, you can't, when the MHL is connected, the WiFi stops working, I regret not having bought the Optimus 2x
erebocln said:
No, you can't, when the MHL is connected, the WiFi stops working, I regret not having bought the Optimus 2x
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Uhm no. I've been streaming with WIFI through MHL no problem for MONTHS. Using the Original Samsung MHL connector of course.
I have to put mine in offline mode to be able to use the MHL adapter.....
As for USB-OTG no luck yet.....
On Amazon, Ebay, DealExtrem ... you will find adapters that can do 3 things at a time:
- output HDMI
- let phone work as usb host, so that you can plug kbd, mouse, and external HDD (second wifi card, wired ethernet ...); once you have the usb A plug, just pub a hub
- recharge the phone (what is not possible with the legacy short OTG cable).
+ read memory cards
Such devices are sold as MHL devices. Some MHL devices don't to all that.
Take care. MHLv2 is more complex than MHLv1.
doublehp said:
On Amazon, Ebay, DealExtrem ... you will find adapters that can do 3 things at a time:
- output HDMI
- let phone work as usb host, so that you can plug kbd, mouse, and external HDD (second wifi card, wired ethernet ...); once you have the usb A plug, just pub a hub
- recharge the phone (what is not possible with the legacy short OTG cable).
+ read memory cards
Such devices are sold as MHL devices. Some MHL devices don't to all that.
Take care. MHLv2 is more complex than MHLv1.
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Could you post a link as an example for such a device, that works properly (if you've tested, or you know it works) ?
Thank you
I can post links, but ... I have not tested any of those. And don't know any one personally who tested it.
Cable:
http://www.amazon.com/Juiced-Systems-MHL-Adapter-MicroSDHC/dp/B008CQKM2U
http://www.dx.com/p/5-in-1-micro-us...n-micro-usb-adapter-black-257780#.U8HYDNePul0
Monobloc:
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Micro-USB-Ho..._MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item258600844e
I don't like the monobloc version; I fear it's too heavy, and may help breaking the phone plug.
There are all sorts of OTG and MHL cables. I have seen OTG dongles as short as 4cm (monobloc), with small cable (8cm: 4-8€), with long cable (1.5m .... should be 7 feet), pure HDMI (passive cable, no card reader, 8-12€), VGA (including very cheap HDMI to VGA converter, 20-30€ ... including sound output). In some case, you need to buy accessories (extra power supply, extra uUSB cable, extra HDMI cable). Also seen a very cute hybrid card reader: http://dx.com/p/285865 (I love this product design, and I love this URL syntax )
Don't forget that there can be mistakes in item description.
Here I have described how to build an external battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54036759&postcount=17
On previous phone, I just soldered additional battery to internal one; on my new phone, I will do something more complex, and more flexible.
Loosing power via OTG/MHL is not a fatality. Most phone have an other hidden power input:
généric, that uses the USB plug:
http://www.dx.com/p/reverse-qi-wire...arger-receiver-for-micro-usb-cellphone-312805
TRIPLE CHECK POLARITY; I took the wrong one; have to fold the cable.
So ... even if your OTG/MHL module takes power from your USB, and can not recharge your phone, the specific shell can charge your phone the other way So, you need to build an internal specific module:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK7PRJ4SiK0
S2 specific back shell, so called receiver:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2013-newest-wireless-charger-for-samsung-galaxy-s2/1266101036.html
http://www.exportprive.com/en/batte...reless-charger-set-for-samsung-galaxy-s2.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/QI-Wireless-Charger-for-Samsung-Galaxy_821969998.html?s=p
The SGS2 is not designed to accept wireless chargers, so, you have two options:
- solder and take the pins out (cf youtube) (do not solder coild to battery, or you could overcharge the batt, and burn your phone ... I mean, physically set fire)
- find an item that includes back shell + specific battery (exportprive)
Many recent phones have the internal connectors, so you just need to change the back-cover. In this case, the software will be able to know the charger is wireless (as opposed to AC, and USB; advanced battery tools will show those 3 possibilities). I believe the motherboard for my HTC One M8 is designed to have those pins, but I can't find the specific cover yet (maybe in a few months); only found it for M7.
In the last few days dad got an Archos 80 G9 Tubo - yes, i helped him pick it out . i also spent a couple days with it playing with it and setting it up.
One of the things she wants to do is plug in a USB stick, but the port on the back is almost unusable for anything because its so close to the silver plate inside - there's simply not enough clearance. The one cable he was able to push into it (the cable from his iPod classic) bent the port at such an angle i was worried it was going to break.
WITHOUT ROOTING (i tried rooting his X2, that went over like a ton of bricks) is there a way to use either a USB on the go cable, or a super-slim USB extension cord (if it exists) to make a full sized USB port available to him?
Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
There are 3 ways that I'm able to attach a full-size USB flash-drive stick into my Archos 80 G9 Classic:
(1) using the micro-USB port with this USB-female-to-micro-USB-male adapter works for me when I want to attach any "fat" full-size USB stick (search for product #B006XL26TS on Amazon);
(2) using the full-size-USB port without an adapter - this thin USB flash drive can attach to that weird angle full-size USB port with ease without using any adapter (search for product #B003DTLWHU on Amazon);
(3) using the full-size-USB port with a corded adapter that looks like this but not exactly this particular model (search for product #B001TH7GV4 on Amazon) - I don't remember where I got this adapter but it fits fine in that full-size USB port and I can attach any "fat" full-size USB stick...
Sorry I couldn't post the direct links since I don't have enough posts. Good luck.
thanks a lot.
i was thinking something like #3, i'd love to find a super-slim extension cable.
i use an ordinary usb cable i made fit using a cutter knife. this works quite well.
I use a stripped usb stick, by removing the casing from the stick.
Hi, i am using this:
And enabling 3g
is the slot for the 80 smaller than the 101, my 101 has no problems with standard usb cables. my problem is that things like keyboards and mice that need more power will not work work but my thumbdrives do
unasoto said:
is the slot for the 80 smaller than the 101, my 101 has no problems with standard usb cables. my problem is that things like keyboards and mice that need more power will not work work but my thumbdrives do
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The slots are the same, but if they give the same amount of current i don't know.
I I know from my 80 that a old school mouse worked, but the mouse what i have now doesnt.
ok tried these
2 usb thumb drives both worked
logitech mx 518 mouse didnt work
USB Key Board didnt work
Tried both thumbdrives with a 4 port hub and didn't work. expected that, now I need to find a battery powered usb hub anyone recommend one
I did some googlefu looking for battery powered USB hubs and found a bunch of them but most are for charging I was looking for one with data also. then I found THIS the hub hes useing is the same as one I already have I have a dead coby tablet that has a 5v battery in it that I can use. just a thought has anyone used a external battery to charge their tab and do you get slow charge or fast?
Hi there,
I have a samsung galaxy S3 (rooted) and have recently purchased OTG cable. The problem is that when I connect s3 with Hitachi Touro (mobile USB 3.0) through OTG cable hard drive does appear in files. I have installed paragon NTFS and stickmount apps but it doesn't seem to connect even though a message keeps appearing "usb connector is connected". Hard drive gives a clicking sound when it is connected with S3 but works perfectly with the computer.
Does anyone know solution to this?
Thanks and regards
I've heard of some people having problems when connected to a usb 3.0 port on their computer and have to connect to a 2.0 port instead. Maybe related?
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DocHoliday77 said:
I've heard of some people having problems when connected to a usb 3.0 port on their computer and have to connect to a 2.0 port instead. Maybe related?
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USB 3.0 I don't think is supported. What I've seen people do is use a 2.0 cable extension with their 3.0 device. As this downgrades it to 2.0 because they should be compatible with 2.0 just won't have the insane speeds as 3.0. Or you can get a USB hub and plug it in that way.
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Sounds like the Hard Drive is not getting enough power (The clicking), do you have it plugged into an external power supply?
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Sounds like the Hard Drive is not getting enough power (The clicking), do you have it plugged into an external power supply?
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Thanks for all the replies. Hard drive is not connected to power supply as it is portable.
Maazyazdani said:
Thanks for all the replies. Hard drive is not connected to power supply as it is portable.
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Splatdotsplat is correct. That clicking sound are the heads resetting to the park position. This usually happens when drives are not getting enough power. When the drive spins up it peaks its power consumption and cuts out because there is not enough so the heads reset. Portable or not that is the issue. I have seen this happen with some portable drives on computers (especially larger capacity). A lot of times the solution can be as simple as using a shorter cable. Sometimes it doesn't work.
as stated above, the only way to run external hdd's of any kind is to be sure they're powered, even some thumbdrives will draw more power than the phone can provide and you'll notice your batt life take a steep dive (as did my Galaxy Nexus w/otg on an HP 16gb thumbdrive)
power the drive through a powered hub and you're good to go!
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Sounds like the Hard Drive is not getting enough power (The clicking), do you have it plugged into an external power supply?
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This is why i recommended using a USB powered HUB as the HUB will give enough power to the external hard drive.
elesbb said:
This is why i recommended using a USB powered HUB as the HUB will give enough power to the external hard drive.
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Having the same issue myself, otg cable with Samsung portable 500GB external HDD and stickmount pro works fine with my Nexus 7,but won't work with my Galaxy even though it recognises the HDD, so do you think a USB hub would be the solution, and can anyone recommend one
Thanks
Anyone?
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i wish there are people who are willing to investigate/try this thing out, it would be awesome to make a portable hard drive works on our S3..
kemaro30 said:
i wish there are people who are willing to investigate/try this thing out, it would be awesome to make a portable hard drive works on our S3..
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Just to throw in some info. I do agree about the hdd not getting enough power as the cause for the clicking. I have a 500gb hitachi drive that does that if a long usb cable is used. The drive didn't come with a power adapter but instead came with a short usb cable that had two heads. allowing it to draw power from two ports. It also had a port for an adaptor though.
When testing with my Samsung Galaxy sIII It doesn't work unless I have the hd running via external power or have the second usb connector on the cable connected to a charging usb cable. Both options charge the phone while the hd is connected to the phone.
The usb cable with the double ports actually works well for me. I have the first port connected to the otg cable that I made and the second connection connected to a usb extender that is connected to my 2A tablet charger. That way I can charge at the same time.
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Just to throw in some info. I do agree about the hdd not getting enough power as the cause for the clicking. I have a 500gb hitachi drive that does that if a long usb cable is used. The drive didn't come with a power adapter but instead came with a short usb cable that had two heads. allowing it to draw power from two ports. It also had a port for an adaptor though.
When testing with my Samsung Galaxy sIII It doesn't work unless I have the hd running via external power or have the second usb connector on the cable connected to a charging usb cable. Both options charge the phone while the hd is connected to the phone.
The usb cable with the double ports actually works well for me. I have the first port connected to the otg cable that I made and the second connection connected to a usb extender that is connected to my 2A tablet charger. That way I can charge at the same time.
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Hi the problem i basically power as in the amount of current your device requires, i know that the standard specifications of the original 2.0 interface is about max 500mA and 5Vdc per port, in some cases the maximum output current is even smaller due to hardware restrictions, this can lead to difficulties when trying to power something like an external hard drive. Therefore a long cable will also give a problem due to the resistance of the material, because the required voltage level is not high enough.
I do not know if there is a spec sheet containing information about the output capabilities of the usb port, if there is one i recommend using that to match an external hard drives, if you do not want to use an external power supply.
Edit: you could also use an external power bank/battery pack but i seems a bit bulky
kemaro30 said:
i wish there are people who are willing to investigate/try this thing out, it would be awesome to make a portable hard drive works on our S3..
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Sure go out and buy me one and i'll test all day..
USB OTG works out of the box for low power devices. I havent seen/read anything stating USB 3.0 works on the S3. I have a 1TB hard drive my brother gave me, its not the newer ones that are ssd so it has a power adapter with it and it works perfectly with my S3. Going to be using it in a few minutes to back up my internal SD.
So guys I have the GT-I9300 ( Galaxy S3 ) and I have 1 TB WD My Passport
I'm plannig to buy the OTG piece ! so as of now is possible to connect the hardrive to the phone or not yet !?
Is there even a driver and an app to do such a thing? As I see it the USB port is configured as an external storage device to connect to a computer not the other way around. What you are doing is connecting two storage devices together. There's no way I would ever connect anything to my phones USB port that requires power. If I were to, it would be through a powered hub.
Hi Eles
elesbb said:
USB 3.0 I don't think is supported. What I've seen people do is use a 2.0 cable extension with their 3.0 device. As this downgrades it to 2.0 because they should be compatible with 2.0 just won't have the insane speeds as 3.0. Or you can get a USB hub and plug it in that way.
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I have read that you connected your S3 with external powered HDD. I bought yesterday the genuine samsung OTG cable and it is working only with memory stick and joystick controller. Don't know why it is not working with my external powered HDD - 500 GB WD. Any ideea ? My S3 is not rooted.
Thanks,
M.
No, nobody is going to have a recommendation for a powered USB hub.
It's a trivial, generic, piece of kit you buy nearly anywhere for under US$10 (unless you're a complete sucker.) Just make sure whatever you get *includes* a power supply.
Get one in the shape of a person, or a kitty cat, or a Tardis, whatever thrills you.
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Is there even a driver and an app to do such a thing? As I see it the USB port is configured as an external storage device to connect to a computer not the other way around. What you are doing is connecting two storage devices together. There's no way I would ever connect anything to my phones USB port that requires power. If I were to, it would be through a powered hub.
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that's not quite accurate. when you plug your phone into your PC, the drivers that you installed will see your phone as a usb device (or media device) and allow you to use your phone as such
an OTG (on-the-go) cable allows you to connect a storage device to your phone, such as a thumb drive or external hard drive (powered or not) and then your phone acts like your PC and uses that device as storage
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USB 3.0 I don't think is supported. What I've seen people do is use a 2.0 cable extension with their 3.0 device. As this downgrades it to 2.0 because they should be compatible with 2.0 just won't have the insane speeds as 3.0. Or you can get a USB hub and plug it in that way.
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I can confirm that in my case forcing my ADATA HV610 1 TB disk to USB 2.0 mode worked. The trick is to use a standard micro-USB cable (e.g. the one that comes with your charger) instead of the standard cable that comes with the HDD.
More detail:
The common USB 3 cable which comes with most new HDDs uses USB 3.0 Micro-B plug which, in practice, is a micro-USB with a "half-micro-USB" next to it. The part most people don't know is that you can use a common micro-USB cable (as the one from your charger) to connect your HDD to your PC (or other device) with the cost of loss of USB 3.0 compatibility. Which, in our case, is what we need, as this switch makes the HDD less power-hungry.
Post a comment if it works for other hard drives too (I think WD also use Micro-B connectors for their USB 3.0 Passports)
Hello,
I have a USB otg connection adapter and thumb drives and sd cards work fine. Higher power devices (external 2.5" HDD) don't work as they need more power. I have a Y usb cable for my external hard drive (one usb plug for data and one for extra power). Can I connect the data plug to my otg adapter and the other usb connector to a wall charger in order to make my Note work with my hard drive? Or am i going to break something in my Note as there are no diodes in the y-cable blocking current going from the wall charger into my Note?
edit: and if this works: any suggestions for the file structure? FAT is not ideal due to file size limitations and NTFS is not ideal due to licensing. Does the Note supports exFAT up to 1 TB?
Yes, you can. You can use a wall adapter, a powered USB hub or like me, a portable battery with USB output that lets you use that HDD on the go.
Szadzik said:
Yes, you can. You can use a wall adapter, a powered USB hub or like me, a portable battery with USB output that lets you use that HDD on the go.
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I've noticed that the 10.1 won't power some things like a 2.5" portable drive that my Note 2 can power just fine. Not sure if there is a reason for this and it's working as intended or just a bug?
gmkelly001 said:
I've noticed that the 10.1 won't power some things like a 2.5" portable drive that my Note 2 can power just fine. Not sure if there is a reason for this and it's working as intended or just a bug?
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It is only by a fluke that the Note 1 powers an HDD. These devices are not designed to power anything but USB sticks. Not sure if there is enough juice to power a USB3 stick so do not look for bugs or solutions as this is not a bug but that how the device is designed.
Not sure if this is the correct place for this, first time posting.
So I'm having a hell of a time getting my Western Digital 2TB external drive to connect to my Nexus 7 2013. I have both Stickmount and Nexus Media Importer installed, and I'm rooted with Cyanogenmod, and I have a working OTG cable.
I know that the Nexus 7 doesn't have enough power to support most external hard drives that use a USB for power. So I bought a 12000mAh external battery with a 5V 2.1A output USB port, and a 4-port (unpowered) USB hub from Radioshack.
Along with those, I had to hunt down a male-to-male standard USB cable in order to connect the female port on the hub to the female port of the OTG cable (using the standard USB-to-micro doesn't work, because for some reason the OTG cable is specifically required to mount USB devices on Android, as you guys probably know).
After finally getting the male-to-male cord today, I tried hooking it up and still no luck. NMI detects the OTG cable but cannot detect the external drive. It works just fine with a flash drive.
Now after looking at the reviews of the USB hub on the site that I linked to, I'm thinking it may be the problem. If you look in the comments you have multiple people stating that this specific hub doesn't play well with many external drives. I haven't had any troubles with it through my PC, but you never know. I've also tried switching between the USB 3.0 cable that came with the drive to a standard USB-to-micro charge/data cable (with no luck), because I've read that NMI doesn't support USB 3.0
Does anyone have any advice or experience with this kind of thing? I'm thinking I may need to find a Y adapter that has one female and two male plugs so I'm not having to go through a potentially-crappy USB hub. But I'm not sure if that'll actually fix the problem or not. From searching around on the web a bit, it seems that connecting this specific drive with the Nexus 7 shouldn't be all that difficult, there's plenty of simple guides out there to demonstrate.
Just to recap, here's my connection process:
- Connect USB hub to external batter (2.1A port), make sure battery is ON
- Connect USB from External Drive to an open port on the hub
- Connect male-to-male USB cable to another port on the hub
- Connect M2M cable to the OTG cable
- Connect OTG cable to Nexus 7 (while on, with 90%+ battery)
- Nothing happens
EDIT - Would have included links to the specific devices, but I'm new to XDA so they won't let me post link yet.
I have a WD 1TB USB3 external drive. The only way I got it to work was by installing Paragon exFAT, NTFS & HFS+ (Available on the Play store), connecting the drive through a normal OTG cable, and rebooting the Nexus WITH the cable connected. Yes, I have to reboot every time with the OTG cable plugged in. I can plug/unplug devices as much as I want, but once the OTG is unplugged, I have to do another reboot; it's annoying, but it is better than nothing. Give this a shot.
Also, what ROM/Kernel are you running?
is the drive formatted as NTFS or exFAT? maybe try the ElementalX kernel as it supports both formats for USB OTG and see if that helps?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389022
edit- just remembered that i came across extra files on the Stickmount XDA page a while back that lets Stickmount support NTFS and exFAT drives, if flashing a custom kernel isn't your thing then you could try that..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400034
I finally got it to work, and now I just feel foolish.
I just needed to switch two cords. I had the male end of the USB hub plugged into the battery, and then the external drive and male-to-male USB plugged into the hub. The male-to-male cord then went to the OTG and the tablet. This apparently didn't let the data/power through correctly.
I went down to the local computer shop and the guy showed me that I was doing it wrong. Instead of using the hub's male end to hook up to the battery, I needed to use the m2m cord for that. The male end of the hub now connects to the OTG, and it works like a charm. I have to make sure to power up the drive and give it a second before connecting it, but Stickmount detects it right away and I have all my content.
I was pretty sure I'd tried every configuration and that I'd need a Y cable for sure, but I'm glad that's not the case even though I feel like an idiot now, haha.