what does a kernel actually do for your phone? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I see people using different kernels with different roms. Why so many kernels and whats their use?

Kernels basically run the back end of your phone. A lot of people make different/ update the kernels because they find a different way to improve battery life and make the phone run smoother and faster. Also, SBC kernels implement trickle charging which makes it so your phone is at or near a 100% when you take it off the charger

This question belongs in the Q&A section, not in the development section.

it posts in the correct section for starters....or does some research as this question has been asked a million times already

Looks like XDA needs to make a 20 post min now.

This is going to by my new trademark...
ROM Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Oh, and please post your new kernel that you must be developing. I must have missed that somewhere in the OP.

-viperboy- said:
This is going to by my new trademark...
ROM Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Oh, and please post your new kernel that you must be developing. I must have missed that somewhere in the OP.
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Better late than never, I suppose Quoting because I like Big Red chewing gum.

Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.

bostonsbrash2 said:
Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didn't know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.

bostonsbrash2 said:
Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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There are many forum police. You can either abide by their law or be stoned.

bostonsbrash2 said:
Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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Wow, you got us. To stick with your lunch table metaphor, imagine this subforum as a lunch table in a cafeteria. You and your friends are enjoying a nice conversation when out of nowhere 500 people run to your table and start vomiting all over it.
This subforum is set up so that they don't need to sticky legitimate development threads. Instead, they created other subforums for questions like these.
Yeah, it looks kind of bad when ten people run in going "wrong forum! wrong forum!," but they're trying to help in whatever way they can since this forum doesn't have a downvoting system.

theoottesen said:
This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.
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Your skill in 'White Knight' increases by 0.3.
Level up! You are now 'White Knight' Level 02.

One more reason people dont come to XDA anymore..... good job the the seasoned "grumps" who at one point asked questions as well. You guys have forgotten what the forums are all about and why your here.... FAIL.

Nutzy said:
One more reason people dont come to XDA anymore..... good job the the seasoned "grumps" who at one point asked questions as well. You guys have forgotten what the forums are all about and why your here.... FAIL.
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Rule number 1
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.

agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...

klubhead said:
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
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well if he had to ask what a kernel is and what it does then at least we know if he doesn't come back the Development section won't be losing a great asset lol

theoottesen said:
This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.
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This is my theory... maybe this will scare and annoy people enough that they will actually think twice and possibly search before posting in the wrong section. They should be scared to come in here and start a thread about a non-development topic.
Saturn2K said:
Wow, you got us. To stick with your lunch table metaphor, imagine this subforum as a lunch table in a cafeteria. You and your friends are enjoying a nice conversation when out of nowhere 500 people run to your table and start vomiting all over it.
This subforum is set up so that they don't need to sticky legitimate development threads. Instead, they created other subforums for questions like these.
Yeah, it looks kind of bad when ten people run in going "wrong forum! wrong forum!," but they're trying to help in whatever way they can since this forum doesn't have a downvoting system.
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LMAO!!! +609783469078409 on this post, sir!
Comrade P said:
Rule number 1
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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QFT
klubhead said:
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...
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My post actually clarified what this section was for. I think it should be clear enough where NOT to post topics like this. I think it was helpful
deathsled said:
well if he had to ask what a kernel is and what it does then at least we know if he doesn't come back the Development section won't be losing a great asset lol
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Exactly.

klubhead said:
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...
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Spoken like a true White Knight. +1 to your Divine powers.

jeebuz.....
Way off topic, lock the thread already...

If it were one person, people probably wouldn't jump all over you, but its multiple threads daily, so people are a little less patient.
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Would this help any dev or no?

So i have an evo that i am sending back because i got my replacement.. So i dont care if it gets unrooted in the process...
According to this: http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100527-115429?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA
I should be able to manually update my phone to froyo....
If someone could walk me through how to get the image and files off the phone and post i would be more than happy too (if that would help anyone.. i just dont know)
Let me know!
yeah it would help but i dont think its available yet been trying to download all day no luck...
Wrong Forum.
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Wrong Forum.
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How is this the wrong forum? He's asking the developers if his downloading Froyo, extracting it, and sending it to them would be a help to their development of Froyo-based ROMs.
Ha!
I swear to God 80% of all posts on XDA are people replying to other people, telling them they are posting on the wrong forum (without even telling them where they 'should' be posting) Very Hilarious but also far far more annoying then the supposed misplaced post itself. p.s. please reply to this telling me I'm posting in the wrong forum, it will make my day.
Sprockethead said:
How is this the wrong forum? He's asking the developers if his downloading Froyo, extracting it, and sending it to them would be a help to their development of Froyo-based ROMs.
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[FLAMEOFF]In basic terms, This is a Question. There is a forum for Questions/Answers. This forum is mainly for Releases of development and testing of ROM's, Modifications, etc. You guys don't think devs check the Q&A, but they do...[/FLAMEOFF]
Wrong Forum.
I wouldn't be too surprised. Drumdude has 3 posts, all of which are just to talk down to other members.
Momma must have weened him off the t!t a little too soon and he's having withdrawals.
zbend said:
I swear to God 80% of all posts on XDA are people replying to other people, telling them they are posting on the wrong forum (without even telling them where they 'should' be posting) Very Hilarious but also far far more annoying then the supposed misplaced post itself. p.s. please reply to this telling me I'm posting in the wrong forum, it will make my day.
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Hay man your posting in the wrong section of the forum. Enjoy!!
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Wouldn't the update download into /cache? Or Is this still the wrong forum?
Sent from your mom's house.
zbend said:
I swear to God 80% of all posts on XDA are people replying to other people, telling them they are posting on the wrong forum (without even telling them where they 'should' be posting) Very Hilarious but also far far more annoying then the supposed misplaced post itself. p.s. please reply to this telling me I'm posting in the wrong forum, it will make my day.
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Dude, Wrong forum.. The Rants and Raves forum is down the block....
zbend said:
I swear to God 80% of all posts on XDA are people replying to other people, telling them they are posting on the wrong forum (without even telling them where they 'should' be posting) Very Hilarious but also far far more annoying then the supposed misplaced post itself. p.s. please reply to this telling me I'm posting in the wrong forum, it will make my day.
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Welcome to XDA. Please notice the nice place set up for questions like this, conveniently labeled "Q/A." See all the question marks there? It's for questions, just like this! The devs read that forum too! Now take a look around this subforum. Notice threads with content, downloads, changelogs - in essence, development.
I hope this was helpful. Have a great day!
Thank you!
Haha. I bet if op posts this is q&a they will say its the wrong forum. I have seen that a couple times. Man how this place has changed in the past couple years
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thenewguy821 said:
I wouldn't be too surprised. Drumdude has 3 posts, all of which are just to talk down to other members.
Momma must have weened him off the t!t a little too soon and he's having withdrawals.
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Are you a wizard? Or just another kid who has also started a thread in the wrong forum?
echoside said:
Haha. I bet if op posts this is q&a they will say its the wrong forum. I have seen that a couple times. Man how this place has changed in the past couple years
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Hey, it's ok. Half of the members finally started going through puberty, and their formerly carefree tween personalities have been beset by emotional volatility and hormonal fluctuations. Most of them are probably confused, wondering what those hairs are for.
Sent from the wrong forum.
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Wrong Forum.
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5 posts of "Wrong Forum". You're just as cancerous as the threads that you post in.
to OP, Thank you for willing and waiting with the rest of us and yes if you do get your hands on that OTA it will help tremendously. Do post here if you get it.
Really?
Ok first drumdude are you a moderator? Have you done any development ever? Do you post anything other then nasty remarks? If I were a moderator I would ban hammer you not the person offering to help.
Seriously people just because you have anonymity behind your user name doesn't give you the right to be rude. Stop jumping on a post and yelling at the poster, if the moderators have a problem they will move the post you are not the police and all you are doing in potentially scaring off help!!! Which correct me if I'm wrong a development forum is DEPENDENT on.
I for one have been taken aback and offended by some of the blatant rudeness on this forum.
We never know who is new or who is posting something. What if a HTC dev was posting a question with the intent to leak info to us and you blasted him like this? Do you think he would want to help after that? Or what if someone who was posting a question also happened to be at HTC legal and got pissed enough to force all our nice developers to stop using anything HTC with a cease order (which they can legally do whenever they want) all because of some rude poster.
Please people be responsible and think before you speak the world and this forum will be better for it.
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Wrong Forum.
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SEE BELOW
Unknownforce said:
[FLAMEOFF]In basic terms, This is a Question. There is a forum for Questions/Answers. This forum is mainly for Releases of development and testing of ROM's, Modifications, etc. You guys don't think devs check the Q&A, but they do...[/FLAMEOFF]
Wrong Forum.
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You 2.. see below..
drumdude said:
Welcome to XDA. Please notice the nice place set up for questions like this, conveniently labeled "Q/A." See all the question marks there? It's for questions, just like this! The devs read that forum too! Now take a look around this subforum. Notice threads with content, downloads, changelogs - in essence, development.
I hope this was helpful. Have a great day!
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idiot
First of all.. anyone that has less than 20 posts telling me that this is the wrong forum is.. well.. DUMB... (even if you have more than that, this still applies)
ITS A SPECIFIC DEVELOPER RELATED QUESTION AND I WAS TRYING TO HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY IF POSSIBLE..
ITS ASSWIPES LIKE YOU THAT MAKE FORUMS BULL****... IF YOU LIFE SUCKS SO BAD THAT ALL YOU CAN DO IS GO AROUND TO FORUMS AND TALK CRAP.. SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE HEAD AND BE DONE WITH IT....
I have been DL'ing roms and posting here for a while and i wanted to try and give back if i could even though i am not a dev!
Adanedhels said:
Ok first drumdude are you a moderator? Have you done any development ever? Do you post anything other then nasty remarks? If I were a moderator I would ban hammer you not the person offering to help.
Seriously people just because you have anonymity behind your user name doesn't give you the right to be rude. Stop jumping on a post and yelling at the poster, if the moderators have a problem they will move the post you are not the police and all you are doing in potentially scaring off help!!! Which correct me if I'm wrong a development forum is DEPENDENT on.
I for one have been taken aback and offended by some of the blatant rudeness on this forum.
We never know who is new or who is posting something. What if a HTC dev was posting a question with the intent to leak info to us and you blasted him like this? Do you think he would want to help after that? Or what if someone who was posting a question also happened to be at HTC legal and got pissed enough to force all our nice developers to stop using anything HTC with a cease order (which they can legally do whenever they want) all because of some rude poster.
Please people be responsible and think before you speak the world and this forum will be better for it.
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You might want to step back and take a deep breath or two (jeez probably three.)
You're not a mod either, so how about you calm down and go outside or something?
Check to see if the PRI updates from 1.34_003 to another one.

[Q] Why do you guys keep posting [Q]'s in development?

seriously, folks....
Did you not read any of the forum guidelines before you started posting? Did you not understand them? IF YOU AREN'T POSTING UP DEVELOPMENT MATERIAL (e.g a new ROM, a new kernel, a system hack, a new radio) STOP STARTING THREADS IN THERE.
the q and a forum is for questions.
and, if you are having an issue with a particular kernel, rom, radio, troll the thread concerning that particular item. chances are that someone else has had the problem, and that another person solved it. if it hasn't been solved, post in that thread, with specifics to your issue.
you do not need to start a thread. in fact, when you start threads that have to be moved, your leftovers have to be cleaned up behind you.
/rant
and no, i don't need some person (db, i'm looking at you) to come in here and say "blah blah blah you're just a wanna be mod", or some other non-helpful comment. the fact of the matter is that there is a place for everything. please keep it in its place. you're more likely to find your answer by searching first, and posting in the correct place. you will also find that you are not starting a load of silly flaming as people bicker and fight about stupid crap.
Wanna be mod.
Thanks.
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I agree with you. But why do you always have to be that guy who complains about eveyones posts. It gets kinda old also.
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If more developers came in here instead of developer wanna b's answering in such a way as to post boost, then we wouldn't have to...
I personally think the PRI question should be a sticky over there until resolved...but that would be too easy I guess?
nvm.............
r.mauldin said:
I agree with you. But why do you always have to be that guy who complains about eveyones posts. It gets kinda old also.
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why am i complaining? because why should i have to sift through 8 tons of crap because someone else can't read? the development forum is busy enough. if 15 threads weren't moved every day, you'd have to sift through page after page after page of complete nonsense just to find the actual things that belong in there.
sorry. i don't have the time to baby step someone through a complex process when they don't bother to read the simple things.
timothydonohue said:
why am i complaining? because why should i have to sift through 8 tons of crap because someone else can't read? the development forum is busy enough. if 15 threads weren't moved every day, you'd have to sift through page after page after page of complete nonsense just to find the actual things that belong in there.
sorry. i don't have the time to baby step someone through a complex process when they don't bother to read the simple things.
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I did say I agree with you. But you make yourself "that guy".
r.mauldin said:
I did say I agree with you. But you make yourself "that guy".
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But "that guy" isn't alone. Lately I've noticed 8+ of us that are "those guys" and growing.
A simple analogy would be comparing parking in the handicapped space at the mall, not worth the risk so you don't... on XDA there is no risk so people park their Q's in the handicapped space (dev) all day long. Neither scenario is right, nor should be tolerated.
timothydonohue said:
seriously, folks....
Did you not read any of the forum guidelines before you started posting?...yada yada yada and blah blah blah
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I could honestly be missing the point here, but by posting your complaint in the Q&A aren't you just griping to those of us who are already in the correct place for general EVO questions instead of in the dev forum where the offenders actually are?
cardiox said:
If more developers came in here instead of developer wanna b's answering in such a way as to post boost, then we wouldn't have to...
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I think a developer wouldn't want to answer the question of some fool who can't even post in the right forum.
Crotchety said:
I could honestly be missing the point here, but by posting your complaint in the Q&A aren't you just griping to those of us who are already in the correct place for general EVO questions instead of in the dev forum where the offenders actually are?
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yes, but what point would i be making by posting it in there? and, as mauldin pointed out, i answer enough of those threads.
however, unless i'm grumpy, i try to both answer their question AND point out that it should be posted in the appropriate place.
I'm with you OP, its irritating and actually disrespectful to the community
BTW, this should have been posted in dev.. lol
timothydonohue said:
yes, but what point would i be making by posting it in there? and, as mauldin pointed out, i answer enough of those threads.
however, unless i'm grumpy, i try to both answer their question AND point out that it should be posted in the appropriate place.
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I hear you and I just joined XDA not too long ago at all. A few things I learned right away:
- USE THE DAMN SEARCH BUTTON
- READ READ READ READ READ READ
- If you can't find an answer using the search button, open a new tab and Google it
- Still can't find an answer? You'd better search through the other threads before starting a new thread
- These threads wouldn't be so long if people would simply read the OP
- Kittehz r dyin cuz u dont no how 2 reed
Seriously though, I hate to see a great community become angered over lazy people. It ruins it for those of us who do heed the rules.
I am with the OP and to the persons aying if more devs came and answered there questions in QA they wouldnt ask in dev .... most of the people answering questions in DEv arent the DEVS. the DEVS are busy developing things and shouldnt be expected to waste there time answering the same 3 questions everyday all day.
Many people on the forum DO come to the Q&A and try to provide insight. Some are less helpful then others but in general you will get flamed less, you will get the answer and you wont cause issues with the "neatness" of the forums.
timothydonohue said:
yes, but what point would i be making by posting it in there? and, as mauldin pointed out, i answer enough of those threads.
however, unless i'm grumpy, i try to both answer their question AND point out that it should be posted in the appropriate place.
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Fair enough. As a seasoned XDA vet of a whopping 3 posts (including this one), I would defer to you on this issue, but I just think it looks like you're complaining to the wrong people. We're already in the Q&A which means we're already doing what you devs have been trying to get the offending posters (who are over in the dev forum) to do. They're not gonna see your OP in here because they're too busy bypassing the Q&A and heading over to Dev to annoy you guys with generic questions again.
Basically what has happened is the Evo and other somewhat likfe phones have blown up. Word spread like wildfire that XDA was the place to get any and all help with your phones. (Which don't get me wrong 99% of the people here are more then willing to help.) This brought a lot of new people on the scene and wanting information and help. Unfortunately some of those people don't want to play by the rules of the road.
Maybe it's just me but it seems like over the past couple months this is what's happened. I seem to remember another thread this was brought up and a suggestion was made about being a member for a certain period of time before being able to create a new thread. I'm not saying this needs to happen because I don't think that would solve anything actually.
Ok...my rant's over now too.
*Just my 2 cents*

Download official stock froyo zip. Beta to Official.

I downloaded the leaked beta and it messed up my phone and put it into a reboot cycle. I try and update before it reboot but it says im up to date. I need the official update in a zip.
Stock unrooted official
Thanks
I take it you have not SEARCHED the board.... cause its here
sent with my evo from a secret place
i did thankyou and you dont have to be a jerk. With the ammount of time u took to type that comment u could have linked me to it. Kindness
Hey Nut.
It was about 4 threads below yours:
The title is: [ROM] Official HTC OTA 2.2 Update to Froyo for the EVO!
(Can't post links yet)
xRepinsSporx said:
i did thankyou and you dont have to be a jerk. With the ammount of time u took to type that comment u could have linked me to it. Kindness
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I could have but the link is 4 or 5 post down
But you searched right
sent with my evo from a secret place
Sporkman said:
I could have but the link is 4 or 5 post down
But you searched right
sent with my evo from a secret place
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That doesnt have the newest update. Still links to the leaked beta release from last week. Thats why I created this thread
xRepinsSporx said:
That doesnt have the newest update. Still links to the leaked beta release from last week. Thats why I created this thread
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You did not search very well
I looked and found 2 download links to the latest ota
sent with my evo from a secret place
Sporkman said:
You did not search very well
I looked and found 2 download links to the latest ota
sent with my evo from a secret place
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Yeah, well all I can find are rooted ROMs, which are not what the OP is looking for. Care to point out where I can find a link to download the final Froyo update here?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=41591391&pp=25
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743113&highlight=3.26.651.6&page=2
Look, here it is. I know I'm not supposed to hold your hand, but obviously you need it. I suggest you may want to stick to the "General" forum section. Easy-to-find forum post.
Lovely people on this forum. was just asking for help. No reason to act this way. I did look and looked for awhile. Im sorry i didnt see it but you dont have to make people feel like crap. Its just stupid
sturmen said:
Look, here it is. I know I'm not supposed to hold your hand, but obviously you need it. I suggest you may want to stick to the "General" forum section. Easy-to-find forum post.
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Dude, no need to be a jerk... Anyone, if that download stops working, you can download it here: http://www.google.com/buzz/superlinkx/PiHU4FDrj6n/For-those-interested-I-have-included-the-final
Be warned that this update will not flash over the leaked beta update. It will ONLY flash over 1.47, so be warned. It won't brick your phone, but you will waste about 10 minutes of your life just to see it fail. HTC said they plan to have a solution for those who flashed early within the coming days.
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Dude, no need to be a jerk... Anyone, if that download stops working, you can download it here: http://www.google.com/buzz/superlinkx/PiHU4FDrj6n/For-those-interested-I-have-included-the-final
Be warned that this update will not flash over the leaked beta update. It will ONLY flash over 1.47, so be warned. It won't brick your phone, but you will waste about 10 minutes of your life just to see it fail. HTC said they plan to have a solution for those who flashed early within the coming days.
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ya i have the leaked version. Thankyou for your help and information and for not being a jerk like the rest. Just tried the update and no luck. thanks for letting me know.
Im stuck using my old treo 650 lol. leaked update messed my evo up so back to old school.
Hope the RUU Supersonic 2.2 exe comes out soon. I messed up my phone when updating to 1.47 so I have lost usb and stuck unrooted so cant fix it. Made a small mistake eh its all good I have a replacement coming...well when they get in stock
lol some of these people remind me of players in wow when you ask a simple question they turn into asswipes just because they have better gear and playing the game longer then you
called ELITIST JERKS lol
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lol some of these people remind me of players in wow when you ask a simple question they turn into asswipes just because they have better gear and playing the game longer then you
called ELITIST JERKS lol
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Why the %#$% do you have MP5 gems as a damn Holy paladin? Freaking scrub.
LOL see!!!
Just an idea here... You might avoid the so-called "jerks" by posting your Question in the Questions and Answers Forum.
Let's use a little deductive reasoning here. Why post in this forum? Don't give me some BS answer, saying something like "it relates to development," because that's a lie and you know it. Truth be told without beating around the bush... The Development Forum is more populated, and you think that because you're posting here, it's more likely to get answered quicker.
Sure, it's more populated, but there-in lies the problem. Because it's the most popular forum, these so-called "jerks" are ALSO more populated here. So your probability of having a so-called "jerk" reply is far greater. You're also going to get a more rash response simply because of posting in the wrong forum and giving a reason to these so-called "jerks" to flame you.
Not only that, but those that would normally offer the help, are then turned away from offering the help because of your posting in the wrong forum. So you're not only attracting the unwanted crowd, but you're turning away the ones that would help you.
Developers are in the development forum for that exact reason... development. You people think they don't visit the Q&A Forum at all. This is untrue. Besides that, this is a community. There are those that aren't skilled enough to be a dev but skilled enough to offer the help and point you in the right direction, and not all of them, but most of those people visit the Q&A Forum regularly.
Unknownforce said:
Just an idea here... You might avoid the so-called "jerks" by posting your Question in the Questions and Answers Forum.
Let's use a little deductive reasoning here. Why post in this forum? Don't give me some BS answer, saying something like "it relates to development," because that's a lie and you know it. Truth be told without beating around the bush... The Development Forum is more populated, and you think that because you're posting here, it's more likely to get answered quicker.
Sure, it's more populated, but there-in lies the problem. Because it's the most popular forum, these so-called "jerks" are ALSO more populated here. So your probability of having a so-called "jerk" reply is far greater. You're also going to get a more rash response simply because of posting in the wrong forum and giving a reason to these so-called "jerks" to flame you.
Not only that, but those that would normally offer the help, are then turned away from offering the help because of your posting in the wrong forum. So you're not only attracting the unwanted crowd, but you're turning away the ones that would help you.
Developers are in the development forum for that exact reason... development. You people think they don't visit the Q&A Forum at all. This is untrue. Besides that, this is a community. There are those that aren't skilled enough to be a dev but skilled enough to offer the help and point you in the right direction, and not all of them, but most of those people visit the Q&A Forum regularly.
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Amen.
I regularly go to the Q&A forum to give back what i can. I can also tell you that the above is correct. the people flamed the most are those posting in the wrong forum. If you search and let them know you try people a re alot more forgiving int he Q&A forum then they are in development. Think of development as your library and Q&A as the class room.
If you are unsure if it should be in development it probably shouldnt be. If it doesnt pertain specifically to a rom and isnt asked in that Roms thread until you get to a level where you can better determine where it goes ... ask in in Q&A. Best advice i can give to people with questions.
xRepinsSporx said:
Lovely people on this forum. was just asking for help. No reason to act this way. I did look and looked for awhile. Im sorry i didnt see it but you dont have to make people feel like crap. Its just stupid
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You're right. I should have been less mean. It's just that... when people come to development with questions seeking answers, it just doesn't seem right. I'd like to apologize. And I'm not gonna go back and edit it to make it better. I'm going to straight-up apologize.
I'm sorry for talking down.
Unknownforce said:
Just an idea here... You might avoid the so-called "jerks" by posting your Question in the Questions and Answers Forum.
Let's use a little deductive reasoning here. Why post in this forum? Don't give me some BS answer, saying something like "it relates to development," because that's a lie and you know it. Truth be told without beating around the bush... The Development Forum is more populated, and you think that because you're posting here, it's more likely to get answered quicker.
Sure, it's more populated, but there-in lies the problem. Because it's the most popular forum, these so-called "jerks" are ALSO more populated here. So your probability of having a so-called "jerk" reply is far greater. You're also going to get a more rash response simply because of posting in the wrong forum and giving a reason to these so-called "jerks" to flame you.
Not only that, but those that would normally offer the help, are then turned away from offering the help because of your posting in the wrong forum. So you're not only attracting the unwanted crowd, but you're turning away the ones that would help you.
Developers are in the development forum for that exact reason... development. You people think they don't visit the Q&A Forum at all. This is untrue. Besides that, this is a community. There are those that aren't skilled enough to be a dev but skilled enough to offer the help and point you in the right direction, and not all of them, but most of those people visit the Q&A Forum regularly.
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I support this statement.
xRepinsSporx said:
Lovely people on this forum. was just asking for help. No reason to act this way. I did look and looked for awhile. Im sorry i didnt see it but you dont have to make people feel like crap. Its just stupid
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Quit crying and go home. You seriously need to learn how to use Google. We hate idiots here as it leads to tons of worthless threads clogging everything up.
Mods, please lock or delete this. Though I'm sure you are all busy dealing with all the trash coming from all the noob trying to ask how to update, each with their own thread...

Rooting Help, EVO 4G Noob

I have just moved over from an iPhone, which I had used for the past 3 years. I love my Evo but want to be able to do more with it through rooting. I have read many guides and can never get it to root or understand half of the terminology. My current setup is an EVO 4G with Android 2.2, software build: 3.26.651.3, and baseband: 2.15.00.07.28. Am I able to root this setup and what all is needed. There may not be a method for this setup yet which is fine. I am just very new to all of this and would love to understand it and get to work on the underlying beauties of Froyo. Thanks.
You currently can't root that build yet. I'm sure it will happen sooner than later. I would just stay tuned for now and keep reading up on roms, terminology, etc. so that you are more familiar with everything when the time comes.
no way to root that yet. i don't think it will be too long though. read through some guides, and study up in the meantime. you'll be better off when a method is ready.
Wrong Section not sure how rooting your phone is considered "Development" unless you have discovered ROOT.
zone23 said:
Wrong Section
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Here come the mods in training!!!!
I suggest learning everything you can before rooting, I knower howe easy jail breaking an iphone is, this is not as easy but as long as you read you should be fine and its ask pretty easy. You will get it. Oh and my suggestion use search there is alot of flaming that can be avoided by searching and posting in the correct forum
DanBergundy said:
Here come the mods in training!!!!
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If no one points it out, no one would learn.
cloud858rk said:
If no one points it out, no one would learn.
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This ^
See my post here for Explanation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7467897&postcount=12
And for those who wish to argue that point and call everyone jerks for saying "wrong forum" see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7480503&postcount=16
And for those that wish to continue to attempt to prove an already wrong point, see here: http://www.wwwdotcom.com/
cloud858rk said:
If no one points it out, no one would learn.
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Doesn't mean you can't answer their question so they don't have to respond back while also NICELY guiding them to the right section. (saves time and keeps the community nice)
the question was answered above so i dont think in this case they really needed to answer it again so that they could point out that the person posted in the wrong forum : \
also as an honest question how is you criticizing them for pointing out the op is in the wrong forum on every thread different then them?
honestly i think "noobs" will always just post where they want as many are only around to get questions answered as quickly as possible with as little effort as possible (nothing really wrong with that per say) and could careless about anything else. With people posting in the wrong section you will always have people complaining its in the wrong section so do we really need to add 2 new groups to this ? the people complaining about the person pointing out wrong forum and the person complaining about them to the list?
I would suggest learning to live with it and we can all pray for a forum utopia where everyone posts where they are supposed to, no one flames, and everyone learns how to search.
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the question was answered above so i dont think in this case they really needed to answer it again so that they could point out that the person posted in the wrong forum : \
also as an honest question how is you criticizing them for pointing out the op is in the wrong forum on every thread different then them?
honestly i think "noobs" will always just post where they want as many are only around to get questions answered as quickly as possible with as little effort as possible (nothing really wrong with that per say) and could careless about anything else. With people posting in the wrong section you will always have people complaining its in the wrong section so do we really need to add 2 new groups to this ? the people complaining about the person pointing out wrong forum and the person complaining about them to the list?
I would suggest learning to live with it and we can all pray for a forum utopia where everyone posts where they are supposed to, no one flames, and everyone learns how to search.
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Or they could restrict posting new topics in this forum completely and make a subforum off it for users to post and be reviewed and be moved into this forum after it was deemed development worthy, thereby eliminating the ability to post in the forum altogether. Works well in a lot of other forums I've been on and moderated before.

Cooking/Building My First rom for EVO, HELP

Hello XDA Community, i am building my first rom and started looking for some kind of guide. But i have failed only to find guides for other devices, so it seems ill be on my own(exception of XDA Community).
So a nice rundown or guide or even PM me
Here are some questions that i have
1.What is lOPl that is after their member status, what does it stand for?
2.what linux is reccomended
3.what tools are needed
sorry if i put this in wrong thread.
SmartB0y said:
Hello XDA Community, i am building my first rom and started looking for some kind of guide. But i have failed only to find guides for other devices, so it seems ill be on my own(exception of XDA Community).
So a nice rundown or guide or even PM me
Here are some questions that i have
1.What is lOPl that is after their member status, what does it stand for?
2.what linux is reccomended
3.what tools are needed
sorry if i put this in wrong thread.
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So knowing those three things is going to make you a dev?
1. http://bit.ly/dGelUt
2. http://bit.ly/fWKXcB
3. http://bit.ly/eTznEb
All of which a google search would have helped you out. This is development section so I understand why you posted this here. But I think you should take a step back since given those three questions could have been found out on your own, shows you have no self motivation yet. Development is a community effort I agree, but there isn't much hand holding. Posting this only showed that your looking for someone to do it for you. That isn't the way to go.
Op= original poster. The other questions I will leave for the true devs
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OP: person who started thread.
Linux distro: not necessary, but many like Ubuntu (I have used Red Hat for a long time)
Tools: Download a kitchen if you just want to build roms, otherwise ask specific questions on what it is you are looking to do and usually someone here can either get you what you want.....or at least point you in the right direction.
And yes, this should have been posted in Q&A
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lithid-cm said:
So knowing those three things is going to make you a dev?
1. http://bit.ly/dGelUt
2. http://bit.ly/fWKXcB
3. http://bit.ly/eTznEb
All of which a google search would have helped you out. This is development section so I understand why you posted this here. But I think you should take a step back since given those three questions could have been found out on your own, shows you have no self motivation yet. Development is a community effort I agree, but there isn't much hand holding. Posting this only showed that your looking for someone to do it for you. That isn't the way to go.[/QUOTE
Jesus dude, he was just asking for some advice not to be slammed into the ground by calling him lazy "not motivated" give him a break and take a pill.
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Jesus dude, he was just asking for some advice not to be slammed into the ground by calling him lazy "not motivated" give him a break and take a pill.
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Then maybe he will next time direct his "lazy" questions to the Q&A. Sorry I'm a blunt person. If you want you can look through the 3000 pages on the compile GB thread I posted and look at the tons of advice I give. You can also see me tell people the truth, some people don't like it. Some people get it, understand what I am telling them, and better themselves.
PS. I did answer his questions.
Building my first Rom
lithid-cm said:
So knowing those three things is going to make you a dev?
1. http://bit.ly/dGelUt
2. http://bit.ly/fWKXcB
3. http://bit.ly/eTznEb
All of which a google search would have helped you out. This is development section so I understand why you posted this here. But I think you should take a step back since given those three questions could have been found out on your own, shows you have no self motivation yet. Development is a community effort I agree, but there isn't much hand holding. Posting this only showed that your looking for someone to do it for you. That isn't the way to go.
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no, i know it wont make me a dev, but it will get me some dirt knowledge of somethings. Now that i have that i can go dig up on all the rest of this. I do agrree that no hand holding is required, but i am goiing to need a push off that swing. i know this is not a weekend thing, but i thank you for giving me a stick to dig.
SmartB0y said:
no, i know it wont make me a dev, but it will get me some dirt knowledge of somethings. Now that i have that i can go dig up on all the rest of this. I do agrree that no hand holding is required, but i am goiing to need a push off that swing. i know this is not a weekend thing, but i thank you for giving me a stick to stand on.
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Your welcome. Good luck. If you need assistance on compiling or understanding that process checkout my thread and/or PM me.
lithid-cm said:
Then maybe he will next time direct his "lazy" questions to the Q&A. Sorry I'm a blunt person. If you want you can look through the 3000 pages on the compile GB thread I posted and look at the tons of advice I give. You can also see me tell people the truth, some people don't like it. Some people get it, understand what I am telling them, and better themselves.
PS. I did answer his questions.
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Just the way u come off sounding like an a-hole. Im sure there was a time when you may have asked a question like this? Trying not to hate on anyone but when someone gets attacked with out reason just puts a bad taste in my mouth. All good my brotha just being "Blunt"
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corybucher said:
Just the way u come off sounding like an a-hole. Im sure there was a time when you may have asked a question like this? Trying not to hate on anyone but when someone gets attacked with out reason just puts a bad taste in my mouth. All good my brotha just being "Blunt"
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If you have a bad taste in your mouth then your should probably brush your teeth. Then move on. Even the OP understood. Have a great weekend.
Brushed my teeth this morning but thanks for the advice. Seems you always need that last little word in there somewhere which is fine because not offense taken by your comments. Just defending a fellow geekdroider like myself from the devs that think their crap don't stink. Jump off your high horse and work on you rom creations because I don't use em anyway. Thanks buddy have a great weekend and happy droiding.
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Lol to up above but I understand where both of you are coming from. OP I wouldn't mind assisting.you if you need some help also. I just made my first rom two days ago took a month but the people on here a very helpful even if they are blunt lol I think they give the best help because they make you.think.about if you seriously want to become a dev the nice ones are also great help I don't think.the community would be as strong.if we didn't have blunt people that the nice people get into it with. They kinda go hand and hand lol they give helpful info when arguing and not even realize.
Swyped From My Rom But I Will Always Be A Mynion!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6738713&postcount=1
good luck.

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