Hey was wondering if there was a way to connect a mimo usb touch screen monitor to my g2 , it would make and awesome display to use will driving .
everything that ive heard about our micro usb connectors is that there is NO video out
so i think you are out of luck...
I'm looking to do the same thing in my car someday too...
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Mog said:
everything that ive heard about our micro usb connectors is that there is NO video out
so i think you are out of luck...
I'm looking to do the same thing in my car someday too...
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NO but DLNA ???
Mog said:
everything that ive heard about our micro usb connectors is that there is NO video out
so i think you are out of luck...
I'm looking to do the same thing in my car someday too...
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MIMO Monitors are entirely USB-based, so their doesn't need any kind of video out signals on the connector (standard USB connectors do not have video out either). Unfortunately, the USB controller in the G2 does not have USB host capabilities in the current kernel, so this would have to be developed first. Then drivers for the monitor itself would need to be ported over.
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While DLNA would work if you are simply trying to stream media over to a larger display in your car, the standard doesn't support displaying the entire phone's screen as is (i.e., you can't send touch responses back to phone, you won't be able to run apps on it, etc.).
No im not looking to use dlna , the mimo monitor is a usb touchscreen monitor . I'm basically looking to make a car dock for my phone and use that as the display and touchscreen .
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MIMO Monitors are entirely USB-based, so their doesn't need any kind of video out signals on the connector (standard USB connectors do not have video out either). Unfortunately, the USB controller in the G2 does not have USB host capabilities in the current kernel, so this would have to be developed first. Then drivers for the monitor itself would need to be ported over.
While DLNA would work if you are simply trying to stream media over to a larger display in your car, the standard doesn't support displaying the entire phone's screen as is (i.e., you can't send touch responses back to phone, you won't be able to run apps on it, etc.).
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Do you happen to know if it would take alot of knowledge to add USB OTG support to the kernal ? i know some other phone have been modded to allow usb host , like the droid and the nexus one .
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Hey it looks like with some work the display link drivers for linux can be used for android to connect and external usb monitor/touchscreen , Can anyone else look at this and tell me if this is some thing that can be done ?
http://sites.google.com/site/voyageofbeagleboard/Home/displaylink-for-android
I'm an EVO user that is VERY interested in seeing this come to light...I don't want this thread to die!
Here are some linux drivers that should work for the mimo monitor so with usb host enable and maybe some modification to the drivers we could get it to work , just wish i knew enough to do it .
http://touch-base.com/
wow
this would be the greatest hack ever to have a permmounted large screen for phone interaction wothis must come to life yt would change everything, 1 device plugged in wherever you are with U/I and hardware to match your usage neeeds
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So I'm getting a new car tomorrow (2012 Chevy Cruze) and I know it has a USB port that allows charge/data.
I've been reading around the Cruze forums and it sounds like I can't stream Pandora/Google Play Music via the phone plugged into the USB port, but rather instead, I have to have an AUX cable and go through that. The disadvantage is I have to control the music via the phone, not the in-car console, amongst other things.
Has anyone had any luck getting an Android phone to stream Pandora/GooglePlayMusic through a USB port without using any mods or the AUX port? Apparently it works with iPhones, but not with Android.
Just was curious if that was true. Either way, I'll find out tomorrow.
I have a 2012 civic and my usb port in the car makes my phone go crazy so I haven't plugged in again. I have used bluetooth for pandora and it works. I can control volume through car.
no usb audio
Our phones wont do usb audio on car stereos. For some reason you can not mount your drives, i had a nexus s and evo that would mount though. It has to do with how samsung configured the system. I just went ahead and got a bluetooth system because it is easier to control the sudio from the phone and also hands free calling
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So I'm getting a new car tomorrow (2012 Chevy Cruze) and I know it has a USB port that allows charge/data.
I've been reading around the Cruze forums and it sounds like I can't stream Pandora/Google Play Music via the phone plugged into the USB port, but rather instead, I have to have an AUX cable and go through that. The disadvantage is I have to control the music via the phone, not the in-car console, amongst other things.
Has anyone had any luck getting an Android phone to stream Pandora/GooglePlayMusic through a USB port without using any mods or the AUX port? Apparently it works with iPhones, but not with Android.
Just was curious if that was true. Either way, I'll find out tomorrow.
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Might be something in this that may help you out if you haven't seen it already.
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Maybe this line out with usb type thing will be helpful. I haven't tried it yet but I'm going to be cutting apart one of my cables soonish to see if it'll work.
It's basically just using the dock audio setting for the Galaxy SII.
From what I was able to find, this isn't capable with current versions of Android and I found this information on the code.google website. If you do a google search for "android audio out through usb" it should be the second result listed with "Issue 24682" in the title.
However, it looks as though Android is going to add this function starting in Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean). If you do a search with "android audio out through usb jelly bean" you'll get more info on the official details.
Good luck with your new car, hope this information helps.
There are a few aftermarket radios with partial support. The best I've seen is the AppRadio 2, but that's pretty expensive and I don't remember if it gets along with Google Play Music. I'm really interested in finding a good solution as well. My iPod Touch's battery life has gone to crap and I'd love to get rid of an Apple device rather than repair it.
I wonder if apps can control the USB port on Android? If so, one could potentially develop and app to spoof an iDevice...
You should be able to use the car radio volume with auxiliary.
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From what I was able to find, this isn't capable with current versions of Android and I found this information on the code.google website. If you do a google search for "android audio out through usb" it should be the second result listed with "Issue 24682" in the title.
However, it looks as though Android is going to add this function starting in Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean). If you do a search with "android audio out through usb jelly bean" you'll get more info on the official details.
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I have Galaxy S3 and I upgraded to Jelly Bean, in hopes it would work - but it didn't.
In the Settings app, under Accessories, Jelly Bean users have a new option to play audio via external devices (they refer to it as "docks" which seems not too broad).
Apparently, this does not work unless the device was setup to support Google's audio protocol: Android Open Accessory Protocol 2.0 (AOA).
Android Documentation on that: source.android.com/tech/accessories/aoap/aoa2.html
saj1jr said:
So I'm getting a new car tomorrow (2012 Chevy Cruze) and I know it has a USB port that allows charge/data.
I've been reading around the Cruze forums and it sounds like I can't stream Pandora/Google Play Music via the phone plugged into the USB port, but rather instead, I have to have an AUX cable and go through that. The disadvantage is I have to control the music via the phone, not the in-car console, amongst other things.
Has anyone had any luck getting an Android phone to stream Pandora/GooglePlayMusic through a USB port without using any mods or the AUX port? Apparently it works with iPhones, but not with Android.
Just was curious if that was true. Either way, I'll find out tomorrow.
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Hello,
I just recently bought a Chevy Cruze eco 2012 - i didn't research about my android phone and i was dissapointed the bluetooth doesn't work as A2DP. I should of waited for a Eco 2013 includes mylink
I has to research later and found out that it's not supported. what i'm using now is a usb sitck to play my music and sometimes AUX.
I also read that we can use the bluetooth blackberry stereo gateway nad stream our music - i'm thinking of purchasing one.
Ahhh!!!
Also there is a hardware hack lol you can replace the bluetooth module PDIM from a Camaro.
http://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/36-electronics/5833-diy-pdim-test.html
http://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/36-electronics/9346-bluetooth-music-streaming-android-phone.html
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/electronics-audio-video-49/updated-bluetooth-module-281218/
I have been thinking about the PDIM not convinced 100% i dont wanna mess it up lol
I also try using the USB switcher mode to change to usb storage but i get an error for music data not supported.
If you find anything let me know
I accidentally sat on my galaxy note 8 yesterday (damn it) and the screen is now broken... i cannot see anything (part of the screen is dark and other part is "scrambled") ... anyway I now want to convert the device into an android tv device as repair will cost too much...problem is I cannot navigate with the device touchscreen as I can't see nothing....
what do i need to completely convert it into an android tv? software, cables, etc... I bought the mhl hdmi cables from ebay but none worked... recommend me the correct cables to buy plz.. thx
You're in a "catch 22" scenario, you could use an OTG cable and a mouse, to enable Bluetooth and pair to a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, but you can't see the screen to make the pair and you can't use the MHL cable and the OTG cable together.
You'll be better off getting a new screen off eBay and replacing it yourself.
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no way to "navigate" using adb something like that and set up a bash script that outputs/tv mirroring with mhl?
Replacing the screen seems quite pricey (I am going to use that money to buy a budget chinese dual boot android/win8 tab instead)
As for using it as a TV...
Seems like the stock video player does pass 1080i 30pfs well, all other players paid or not only passes 720p.
As most all streaming services push 720p as High Def, using 1080i would be very rare, and with today's standards to allow Cable to choke our internet. There is a monopoly going on, and if it were the 70's Comcast and Verizon would be heading to court just like AT&T.
You can get a MHL HDMI adapter, and use it to use a TV to connect. I have a Samsung TV, so Anynet+ will automatically turn on the TV and switch to the input when connected to the tablet.
All you need to do, is make sure the MHL HDMI adapter is connected to the USB power before connecting to the tablet. You can either plug in the MHL adapter before powering on the tablet or plug in once the tablet has been booted up. If plugging in while off, give it a few minutes to display on the TV.
The nice thing is that the adapter will work without need of any settings changes. I use Miracast as it does not need cables and works a wee better. Though many complain about how it functions, i think it is because of modded ROMs and the lack that they do not use Samsung's update to fully optimize the workings of their tablets.
If using Miracast, you will need a MHL adapter to configure the tablet for syncing... once configured you wont need to connect the MHL adapter. Though if any Miracast settings get changed your not going to be able connect and use your tv, since your tablet's display is broken.
I prefer a stock ROM, as it is fully working, and don't having to fix what others break.
thx for the reply but the problem is I cannot use the screen as it's broken... any ideas are welcome
ok guys some progress!
using
https://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/ and http://www.mymobiler.com/
I am able to control my galaxy note 8 from pc now with a usb connection
https://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/ is straightforward but it is very slow and could not get keyboard and mouse to work. I used it to install mymobiler app and grant root access to it... with mymobiler, i can use mouse and keyboard and it is faster but still lags... if anyone knows better/lagless screen mirroring app, let me know.
Now, next step is to connect physical bluetooth mouse and keyboard and hdmi so that i can use it as an android desktop/tv pc
ok connected it to my lg monitor and i have an error on my lg monitor HDMI OUT OF RANGE 33.8kHz/30Hz .. any idea?
yeahman45 said:
ok connected it to my lg monitor and i have an error on my lg monitor HDMI OUT OF RANGE 33.8kHz/30Hz .. any idea?
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You may have to check for PC mode on your telie... My Samsung has the capabilities to run PAL or NTSC through the PC input or HDMI 3, though it is undocumented. Once set at PC, you may have it sync properly.
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You may have to check for PC mode on your telie... My Samsung has the capabilities to run PAL or NTSC through the PC input or HDMI 3, though it is undocumented. Once set at PC, you may have it sync properly.
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where do you set this?
I tried it on another monitor (a benq), it detects the signal but nothing is displayed (it displays no preset mode)... I think it's a problem with resolution? I works with my lg led tv only so far...
yeahman45 said:
where do you set this?
I tried it on another monitor (a benq), it detects the signal but nothing is displayed (it displays no preset mode)... I think it's a problem with resolution? I works with my lg led tv only so far...
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My TV was made in 2008 and has 3D capabilities... Since it is Samsung, there are some features Samsung uses with HDMI connectivity. Such as AnyNet+, as it will detect and switch to the input automatically when connected.
Samsung has a few hidden features on my telie that not all telies have... even within their product lines.
To enable DVI/HDMI for PC use, you must go into the user menu to label the inputs.
There are preset labels, one being PC. That has to be set on HDMI 3 or a DVI/HDMI input.
If your teli has a DB15 SVGA connector, you may have to use an inline HDMI to Analog converter. As used in older projectors.
There can be issues right away, since Samsung uses AnyNet+ and other features within HDMI 3.1 Spec for the tablet and telie.
These issues can be the lack of detecting the tablets output or visa-versa in linking. Also modded firmware don't pay well at all for me.
I reverted to stock so I can use all the features that the tablet offers without having issues.
The stock video player does a great job at delivering 1080p @ 30fps, I wish MXplayer did that, but it comes in handy for video formats that the stock player can't do. The best I can get from MXplayer is 720p @ 60fps. So it seems that MXplayer may be an option if resolution detection is not syncing between stock player. Also the tablet does a great job at converting frame rates with all video players.
Another hidden and undocumented feature, is that my telie even being yank, will do Euro frame rates so I have the ability to play all frame rates, 24, 25, 30, 50, 60, and 75. Yes 75 fps... only when using PC enabled on DVI/HDMI. So I can push odd frame rates without a conversion between DVD/Blu-ray players if connected using PC analog connections or just connecting a PC to play videos.
As for connecting... I plugin the MHL / HDMI adapter to the tablet and then plug in the power adapter to the side of the MHL adapter.
Some telies will deliver 5v though the HDMI cable to power the MHL to HDMI adapter and tablet. Mine is too old and does not deliver 5v though its connection.
Hopes this helps with understanding some limitations with telies and connecting the tablet.
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My TV was made in 2008 and has 3D capabilities... Since it is Samsung, there are some features Samsung uses with HDMI connectivity. Such as AnyNet+, as it will detect and switch to the input automatically when connected.
Samsung has a few hidden features on my telie that not all telies have... even within their product lines.
To enable DVI/HDMI for PC use, you must go into the user menu to label the inputs.
There are preset labels, one being PC. That has to be set on HDMI 3 or a DVI/HDMI input.
If your teli has a DB15 SVGA connector, you may have to use an inline HDMI to Analog converter. As used in older projectors.
There can be issues right away, since Samsung uses AnyNet+ and other features within HDMI 3.1 Spec for the tablet and telie.
These issues can be the lack of detecting the tablets output or visa-versa in linking. Also modded firmware don't pay well at all for me.
I reverted to stock so I can use all the features that the tablet offers without having issues.
The stock video player does a great job at delivering 1080p @ 30fps, I wish MXplayer did that, but it comes in handy for video formats that the stock player can't do. The best I can get from MXplayer is 720p @ 60fps. So it seems that MXplayer may be an option if resolution detection is not syncing between stock player. Also the tablet does a great job at converting frame rates with all video players.
Another hidden and undocumented feature, is that my telie even being yank, will do Euro frame rates so I have the ability to play all frame rates, 24, 25, 30, 50, 60, and 75. Yes 75 fps... only when using PC enabled on DVI/HDMI. So I can push odd frame rates without a conversion between DVD/Blu-ray players if connected using PC analog connections or just connecting a PC to play videos.
As for connecting... I plugin the MHL / HDMI adapter to the tablet and then plug in the power adapter to the side of the MHL adapter.
Some telies will deliver 5v though the HDMI cable to power the MHL to HDMI adapter and tablet. Mine is too old and does not deliver 5v though its connection.
Hopes this helps with understanding some limitations with telies and connecting the tablet.
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thx for the explanation... mine works on my lg led tv but does not work on my lg monitor and benq monitors ... will try on my asus monitor also to see if it works.. but so far it seems it does not work well with monitors
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thx for the explanation... mine works on my lg led tv but does not work on my lg monitor and benq monitors ... will try on my asus monitor also to see if it works.. but so far it seems it does not work well with monitors
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Hi, I think I mis-understood about the monitor connex... Not all monitors have full HDMI security built in. HDCP compliance may be your issue.
I suggest taking your tablet with the MHL adapter to a store to have the sales person assist with finding a monitor that will work for your needs.
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Hi, I think I mis-understood about the monitor connex... Not all monitors have full HDMI security built in. HDCP compliance may be your issue.
I suggest taking your tablet with the MHL adapter to a store to have the sales person assist with finding a monitor that will work for your needs.
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thx for the help... but firstly, i bought the adapter on ebay and secondly, I don't expect buying a monitor/tv based on whether it will work with mhl... from my understanding, it should work on all tv/monitors right? isn't is a standard hdmi output??
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thx for the help... but firstly, i bought the adapter on ebay and secondly, I don't expect buying a monitor/tv based on whether it will work with mhl... from my understanding, it should work on all tv/monitors right? isn't is a standard hdmi output??
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Yes it will work on any Monitor with HDMI.
Just TV was on the top of my head when making a quick setup.
it works on my old asus lcd monitor but not on my new lg led monitor... weird... is there a way to use a usb keyboard and mouse while using hdmi?
edit: the hdmi output resolution does not really fit the screen of my monitor.. is there a way to change resolution of the hdmi output?
yeahman45 said:
it works on my old asus lcd monitor but not on my new lg led monitor... weird... is there a way to use a usb keyboard and mouse while using hdmi?
edit: the hdmi output resolution does not really fit the screen of my monitor.. is there a way to change resolution of the hdmi output?
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Depending on Monitor settings, some will auto fit or allow for edge to edge adjustment.
Also if using video player, the Samsung video player does do edge to edge, while MXplayer will not through MHL. I gave up on Per App settings in Xposed, before I could ascertain that MXplayer will do edge to edge with H/W or Software decoder.
One thing with SecondScreen, it may adjust for proper scaling with Monitors, though with my TV the built in PC input scales to have a boarder to compensate for the 5% overscan most all TVs use to keep encoded signals from showing at the edges.
Not all Monitors and TVs are perfect, but I am able to use edge to edge with some adjustment with the display or using a 3rd party app such as secondscreen.
what is secondscreen? I can't find it on playstore ... yup when i play youtube, it plays full screen... will try to play a game.. I am glad I have been able to convert my galaxy note to an android tv! lol ... another issue though... my monitor does not have speaker ... so there's no audio atm.. the galaxy note does not seem to output audio when connected via hdmi?
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what is secondscreen? I can't find it on playstore ... yup when i play youtube, it plays full screen... will try to play a game.. I am glad I have been able to convert my galaxy note to an android tv! lol ... another issue though... my monitor does not have speaker ... so there's no audio atm.. the galaxy note does not seem to output audio when connected via hdmi?
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Well the other option is to connect your tablet to your A/V receiver and pass the video to your monitor, or to get a signal splitter that will allow audio output. Depending on the quality and performance they can run as low as $20 and up to $150 so in some ways it is best to get an A/V receiver. If your A/V receiver is limited by inputs BlueJean cable has various HDMI switchers.
I have the link to the free app a few posts above this... just read the pages back till you find it. I am running the paid version so updates may be faster and better than the freebie. I went a head and updated to 1.4.5 just to see how much of a problem it is as for workarounds with Touchwiz. I still prefer 1.4.4 as it seems smoother at transitions between on and off / off and on. May revert back and just keep the old version as it does its job very well in automatic mode.
I can't find the link to Secondscreen app. Will check out if i can get a cheap av recevier
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I can't find the link to Secondscreen app. Will check out if i can get a cheap av recevier
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One note about secondscreen... it will shrink the display to have borders. Some TV / Monitors have zoom or scan adjustments to remove most of the borders.
Here is the link for the free version... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farmerbb.secondscreen.free
I've been tinkering with a bluetooth keyboard, mouse and slimport hdmi adaptor withe the hopes of creating a polished desktop experience. I'm using a 27" 1920x1080 monitor for the main display.
I found the build.prop and changed the dp to 82. Next step is to automate that process so when i plugin/unplug the slimport it changes to the appropriate density.
I'm having a little trouble with setting up keyboard and mouse bindings for some apps and games. If anyone knows of something that might help with that? Chances are I'm going to have to build something to do that as well.
I've got ADB/fastboot host working over usb otg thanks to this.
I might try my hand at a switching hub for the slimport and usb otg cable so I'm not forever changing them over all the time.
To do list:
Change dp on connection of slimport
Change resolution to match connect screen on connection of slimport
Turn off mobile display on connection of slimport
Fix fastboot host connectivity
Fix bluetooth polling problems for mouse
Map keyboard and mouse on per app basis
Adapt mouse input to onscreen touch controls(look controls in dead trigger, modern combat, etc)
Usb otg, slimport switch(I'm unsure how I'll be able to effectively have this feature but I'm ataminte that its an integral feature)
Optional mods:
Start "docked mode" on connection of slimport
Mhl, miracast and chromecast support
Other platform support (galaxy s5, htc one, lg g2/g3, etc)
Working:
Screen mirroring
Audio over hdmi
Manual dp and resolution optimization
Any links or help would be good. Please feel free to make suggestions for new features.
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I've been tinkering with a bluetooth keyboard, mouse and slimport hdmi adaptor withe the hopes of creating a polished desktop experience. I'm using a 27" 1920x1080 monitor for the main display.
I found the build.prop and changed the dp to 82. Next step is to automate that process so when i plugin/unplug the slimport it changes to the appropriate density.
I'm having a little trouble with setting up keyboard and mouse bindings for some apps and games. If anyone knows of something that might help with that? Chances are I'm going to have to build something to do that as well.
I've got ADB/fastboot host working over usb otg thanks to this.
I might try my hand at a switching hub for the slimport and usb otg cable so I'm not forever changing them over all the time.
Sorry about how messy this first post is, I'll tidy up as I do updates.
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I'm very interested to see how this progresses. The thought of using a phone or small tablet like the Nexus 7 instead of lugging around a laptop is very appealing and something I've looked at a couple of times over the last year or two.
Are you able to turn the screen off whilst using an external monitor or does the monitor replicate the screen?