Sorry i know there's posts on app killers being safe or not, just had a question towards it.
i currently have the HTC but soon to upgrade to the HTC Evo, and when i get the Evo i want to do this a safer way.
on my HTC hero ive used Advance App killer, or Estrong Task Manager. but over the 5 months of having this phone. ive noticed a HUGE decrease in speed. before i could open and close apps and it would be semi fast. and now some take 3-4 seconds. ive flashed roms and then go back to original settings. im not downloading any apps really except:
Winamp, Angry Bird, Zenonia, pandora, Battle.net blizz authenticator. and task killer. so my memory isn't being taken up all that much.
I'm not trying to start a pro vs con task killer debate, but I've had no reason to use one on my EVO. When I had my Hero I had to use them constantly, but mine was stock unrooted 2.1.
it could be how the hero handles froyo...my returns had similar issue after flashing cm 6 for froyo...i may be wrong...technically as far as I know froyo don't need a task killer.
ok well thank you for ur input
theidlemonk said:
it could be how the hero handles froyo...my returns had similar issue after flashing cm 6 for froyo...i may be wrong...technically as far as I know froyo don't need a task killer.
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i noticed with froyo ive had issues with them more cause it doesnt close them at all. it says it does but reopens everythign the exact same second. like mu music, messaging, email, internet, ect...
but when i went back to stock it just seems my phone lost so much speed. takes forever to open anything now
There is no reason to kill apps with froyo. Use Autostarts to prevent crap from starting and let Android do its thing. If you think your phone is running sluggish, do a hot reboot instead of killing apps. If you want to use a task manager, SystemPanel is the only one I recommend, and not for its app killing. It has a lot of other features to help you diagnose issues and keep track of what apps are doing.
awesome, thank you again metalhead.
As long as you use a froyo rom, it handles task killing all by itself. If you insist on using a task killer, try Autokiller from the market. Its not a traditional task killer, it lets you tweak the task killing to certain degrees. Give it a shot.
kyhassen said:
awesome, thank you again metalhead.
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noooo prob
Sab3r One said:
As long as you use a froyo rom, it handles task killing all by itself. If you insist on using a task killer, try Autokiller from the market. Its not a traditional task killer, it lets you tweak the task killing to certain degrees. Give it a shot.
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Agree, it is better on the long run
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Simple poll, just want to know how many people are using task killers or not.
EDIT. This is for froyo users
Nope. The Desire rarely slows down so I don't see a need for it. Especially with Android's efficient Activity stack management.
Nah, I'm not using one. I was when I first got my phone but I've found that without one I actually get better battery life.
I have one installed but hardly ever use it.
Not for speed or memory, but sometimes I have to kill something in order to get access to camera.
touch of jobo said:
I have one installed but hardly ever use it.
Not for speed or memory, but sometimes I have to kill something in order to get access to camera.
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What would you need to kill to access the camera?
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LED flashlight or bar code scanner. I think there was another one once but I forgot.
Ah I guess that would make sense. I don't think I've ever had an issue like that but I rarely use my camera to be honest.
I don't find a need to use a task killer for my own usage.
task killer came with the rom LeeDroid v1.6
Task killer is useless imho.I was using desire with 2.1 for a long time having 30mb of free RAM and so what.every time system needed more RAM it killed something by itself.really no need to use it. It's Linux powa and the whole awesomnes of its memory management
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Like everyone already said, taskkillers are useless i'd use one only to be sure that sense ui isn't running in background when using an alternative launcher.
I tried using one for a while but I found it to be pretty useless and so I don't use one anymore.
Asking I have it loaded atm it seems to work but its not sticking on reboot have to reset it
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Asking I have it loaded atm it seems to work but its not sticking on reboot have to reset it
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Well, first of all, autokiller probably won't do much for you in Froyo, seeing as Froyo has some major memory enhancements. I'm not even sure if the file autokiller modifies still exists in Froyo. I'd imagine so, but I really don't know. All I know is, you really don't need autokiller at all.
Agreed.
I had Aaron La's Task Manager (a fantastic application management app by the way) set on auto-kill, etc and I my device ran much better uninhibited on both 2.1 and 2.2. I know it seems hard to believe but... that's the glory of Android...
Now I use Task Manager for install/maintain/uninstall purposes only.
I vastly prefer SystemPanel.
I used to be OCD about killing tasks, until I read more about how it actually worsens battery life
oh yeah, and the funny part is, Task killers won't even work in Froyo. They can stop apps, but the apps just pop back up into memory. All the OCD people out there are going to go nuts!
Just read that task killers no longer work as they are supposed to in 2.2 im wondering if there is anything else i can do aside from using the completely crap method google has given froyo of going to setting/apps/manage apps and force killing all the apps that start themselves
i noticed earlier ATK wasnt killing some apps so this kind of explains it
You don't NEED a task killer in Android in the first place.
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ive tried other task killers and they all created FCs and resets. task manager is the only task killer that i found that works great with no FCs or resets. task manager is awesome lets u auto kill task with a set time after your screen is off instead of instantly. it also lets you kill services. it really does help my EVO and i can suggest it. also it was recently updated to work with 2.2. try it out and let me know what u think. make sure to ignore things that are important to you such as mail messages etc
Or you could listen to the first reply and just stop using a task killer. Froyo is much more optimized than previous versions of Android, and really runs find on its own. By lettings apps sit in memory, the phone will run faster and more optimized. Seriously, that's why Google deprecated the code that task killers originally used.
as much as id like to not fumble around with a task killer i find it hard to believe it doesnt need one for the one reason that if i dont use one after about 30 minutes of opening and closing apps or just basic use it starts getting choppy and slow...
I was sold on task killers originally, believing them to increase battery life.
Wrong. They sure did on WinMo 5.x - 6.x, but they sure DONT on android.
I actually tested it out myself. Since going without task killer, i'm getting exactly the same battery life I got with it. It might even be a touch better since there is now no task killer code taking CPU time and hogging memory.
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Also, we have the best multi-tasking phone OS in our hands and we want to hobble it by killing processes willy-nilly. Why don't we embrace the fact that android beats WinMo by a country mile in multi-tasking, and beats iOS 4 by a lap or two. Oh and iPhone OS 3.x and before still say "wtf is multitasking?"
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Hey all,
I've got a rooted Incredible, thanks to many of you on here. I installed AutoKiller Memory Optimizer soon after rooting...as well as SetCPU. I played with the settings and have been using those for the past month that I've been running with no issues. After reading a post in Lifehacker yesterday I thought twice about using some of the tools they listed there...such as Autostarts and Watchdog...instead of Autokiller.
Without this becoming a discussion about whether or not task-killers are needed on my Sense 2.2, what would be my best set-up? Should I use all three, or am I doubling up when I don't need to? And finally, is Autokiller a "task-killer"?
What should I be running on my machine?
Thanks.
With my experience, on 2.2, task killers result in worse battery life. I have no task killer, no setcpu, and I'm on stock 2.2 with KingBFS#5 kernel and get an average of 19 hours on the stock battery.
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Auto killer is not a task killer per se, it allows you to tweak the parameters of Android's internal memory management. It works very well from my experience with it.
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since root i find no reason for any task killers.
I have deleted all bloatware.
And if i have battery trouble I will use systempanel to find out what's the trouble maker.
Auto-killers seem like a good option but so far i don't have any trouble apps.
I think I'll delete Autostarts and Watchdog and possibly just stick with Auto Killer for now. It seems as if it's not really a task killer...but it keeps everything running smoothly. I just think that Android is smart enough to keep things running when they need to run, or may need to run. There are apps that go out of control...but there's easier ways to monitor those. In time, I think I may uninstall...or be persuaded to uninstall AutoKiller.
I've been thinking about kernels, radios...and new ROMs ever since I rooted. As far as right now, I'm cool with Sense...but having more control of it and what runs.
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I think I'll delete Autostarts and Watchdog and possibly just stick with Auto Killer for now. It seems as if it's not really a task killer...but it keeps everything running smoothly. I just think that Android is smart enough to keep things running when they need to run, or may need to run. There are apps that go out of control...but there's easier ways to monitor those. In time, I think I may uninstall...or be persuaded to uninstall AutoKiller.
I've been thinking about kernels, radios...and new ROMs ever since I rooted. As far as right now, I'm cool with Sense...but having more control of it and what runs.
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Well if it's any help to you I am running virtuous with a Hydra kernel and so far it's splendid.
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I might think about doing that. The one thing that would sway me would be getting updates and tweaks faster than Verizon or HTC get them to me.
If I back–up my Sense 2.2, and then start playing with Roms, kernels, radios, etc... and I don't like it, can I go back to basics?
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Yes backups would allow you to revert to when you took the backup. Virtuous is very good and close to stock but with options. Check out the forum "best sense ROM" in the incredible general section for sense based roms
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Hi I was just wondering I herd that it is best to not use a task manager because android controls the task just fine then I hear that its good to have a task manager so I just would like some advice on the subject thank you
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rayfrausto said:
Hi I was just wondering I herd that it is best to not use a task manager because android controls the task just fine then I hear that its good to have a task manager so I just would like some advice on the subject thank you
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I don't use an automatic task manager, I use System Panel which has a kill all widget that you can use if things get laggy. It is supercustomizable and you can exclude items you don't want to kill. I also use autostarts which basically keeps some nuisance stuff from starting when the phone boots. Autostarts is tricky though so don't kill anything you don't know 100% what it does. I only use it to prevent maps, market, music and a couple other apps from starting.
Good Luck.
I don't use any task manager at all. Like the poster above me, I use autostarts to prevent things from running on their own and the ROM I'm running kills the current app completely if you hold the back button down. If by some chance things start to get laggy I just do a hot reboot and everything is right as rain.
Okay I'm very new to this so what's system panel and how do I set up things to not auto start in the back round
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I used a task killer for a long time, and have since abandoned them completely. My personal opinion is to not worry about stopping auto processes, or killing anything.
If you start seeing that you are having issues with battery drain, or not enough memory, then you may want to look into some of these options.
If you are rooted, and want to install a custom ROM, most of the custom ROM's are very clean, and then you really don't need to worry.
I spent a couple of months stock with a task killer, a few months on custom roms with a task killer, and the past couple months I have been on various custom roms with no task killer, and I don't see any reason to go back.
I'm running a custom rom right now I'm running fresh evo from flipz so I was just wondering I should b good without a task manager.
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