Juice defender, yay or nay? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm getting 1.08x, is juice defender worth keeping for that? Or no? Thanks on advance.
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Yay.
I get 1.35x on default profile while using Myn's RLS5
Back when I was on fresh I used to get 2.20x with the aggressive profile.
Battery almost lasted 24 hours with very light use.
With Myn's, it last 17-19 hours and I am willing to sacrifice the extra hours for the performance.

Are you using the Ultimate juice or just plain juice? I want to upgrade to Myns 5 but I don't want new radios.
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Yes I am using ultimate juice. If I remember correctly, you have to upgrade all your radios when you switch to a 3.70 rom.

I need to get ultimate but I don't pay the bill so I have to work around it. I wish I could just use paypal to buy it -_-'
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I was trying JuiceDefender, but didn't really see what it was doing over Tasker and CPU Tuner and/or smartass. It seems to me that with Tasker doing WiFi and CPU Tuner to either do CPU profiles or just setting to smartass that there wasn't much that JuiceDefender added.

droidbird said:
I was trying JuiceDefender, but didn't really see what it was doing over Tasker and CPU Tuner and/or smartass. It seems to me that with Tasker doing WiFi and CPU Tuner to either do CPU profiles or just setting to smartass that there wasn't much that JuiceDefender added.
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You can do almost everything juicedefender does with tasker and cpu tuner if set up right. Tasker is a little harder to use (though does have a lot more capability). Basically juicedefender is an alternative to doing tasker and cpu tuner not something you need in addition to. Basically with ultimate you can manage screen off cpu speeds, turn mobile data, wifi,4g on and off by screen schedule and or an app being active.
Personally i use juicedefener (ultimate) i get around 1.8x on CM 6.1.2 and about 2 on fresh. it will all depend on your settings and how often your screen is off. I go several hours at a time where my screen is off then ussually use it for 30- an hour between breaks and has greatly increased life because of this i say ..... YAY

Before I rooted my EVO, I was using JD Ultimate and the most life I got outta my phone was 1.90x but that when I didnt use my 4G and Wifi. When I would keep those enabled I would get about 1.25x
Now that I m rooted, I get about 2.30x avg. - Again though - I don't keep my radios on all the time, I only use my Wifi when Im home and I hardly ever use 4G. I live in houston and the signal here is good when you are in the city - but where I live - I sit right on the edge of good and bad signal and it makes my phone VERY laggy and choppy b/c its constantly connecting/disconnecting from the 4G network.
I would go ahead and upgrade to Ultimate cause its worth it...

can't live without juicedefender, period. Android is crippled without it -- Google should seriously consider integrating this fucntionality into the standard OS.
Without JD, my phone is completely DEAD by lunchtime every day (~5-6 hours after unplugging in the morning). Everything is set to sync automatically, of course, so it's there whenever I pick up the phone. With JD, I still have battery at night before I go to sleep. In fact even if I forget to plug the phone in at night, I still have some (very little) juice in the morning. When the battery gets below a certain percent, it goes into super-duper conservative mode and will NOT let the battery die. My counter only reads 2.15x but I'm sure it is actually much much more than that.
I use the most up-to-date beta version with ultimatejuice, but I don't really use all the features of the paid version (I still manually toggle wifi when I am at home because that is the only place I use it.) Just remember every time you update JD you need to open up the app and re-enable it so it starts working again..

gangsterholla179 said:
Yay.
I get 1.35x on default profile while using Myn's RLS5
Back when I was on fresh I used to get 2.20x with the aggressive profile.
Battery almost lasted 24 hours with very light use.
With Myn's, it last 17-19 hours and I am willing to sacrifice the extra hours for the performance.
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I say No Juice. Running with the stock HTC kernel, I can go 24hours with moderate usage.
To me moderate use is:
1 hour of talk
50-100 texts
2 hours of gaming (bubble blast, gun bro's, bubble blast, ect...)
30 minutes of web on 3g
30 minutes of web on 4g

On the fence
I found that juice defender did help improve my battery life a little bit. But I'm still kinda on the fence about it. At times it messes with your data connections (3g, 4g, wifi) and things like gmail and calendars are not able to sync. Not too big a deal but I'm just not sure I like it yet.

So is that a yay or a nay? Also for 1.08* is it worth it?
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Juice Defender...who has it and how to you configure?

I got this app and the paid version, I'm currently at x1.30 useage. How do y'all configure it? I read post from other android users getting way way higher numbers. I just really don't how to configure it(total noob). I have root and got rid of the bloated sprintware. If anyone could post a guide or steer me in the right direction....I would ove you lots!!!
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I am fairly new to android and I heard a lot about this app as well. I just let it configure my settings for me. I'm getting around 1.70x right now and its probably my 3rd charge cycle since I got it. It was around 1.30x at first. I got the ultimatedefender exension so it could prefer wifi before using 3g, I think that helps save on battery.
I hope there's other settings to tweak to get the most battery. I would love to go a entire day on this thing.
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A good overview of the settings and features http://latedroid.com/juicedefender
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I tried it a few times on the evo and felt it was not helping me. I didn't believe the numbers it said it was saving me.
on my hero it was incredible with collins battery tweak, as for the epic i dont think its fully compatible as my settings were to turn 3g off with the screen and to turn data on 5m every 2 hours to sync, 12am to 7 am airplane mode. and i didnt notice much on the epic, but then again it didnt shut my 3g off...
Mine currently says 1.74x. I don't think it's really helping though and it's kind of annoying having to pull the wait after I pull out the phone to get on the internetz
im not sure if it is helping either and it gets annoying when i am having a convo with someone on say gtalk and it disables data when my screen turns off.
I used to use it. My favorite thing about it was being able to turn off data while using certain apps/games. Also set it to check for emails every 15 minutes.
JD
I'm getting 2.25x. Install JuicePlotter and run without JD... and you can see your battery drain without JuiceDefender. I've used it for quite some time, and the graph matches my real time use (I've also used other battery monitoring apps and seen the same kind of results, JP just shows it in a nice graph). Then install JuiceDefender (I'm running the beta channel) and watch how much more slowly your battery drains.
When ACS released the latest SyndicateROM with Froyo I jumped on it and disabled JD because my girlfriend saw her battery lasting a LOT longer once TMobile (she has a Galaxy S with them) released Froyo. While it was better, it's ridiculously better with JD.
It will auto configure itself... but I customize it and have it disable during the night, 30 minute data off during the day, configured the apps I want (and yes, disabling data when using a game is a great way to save if you dont need data during the game).
Im at x2.14 now, self customized using JD Plus. 3G/Wifi turns off during certain apps running in the foreground, 3G/Wifi is off when the screen is off, Wifi automatically turns on/off depending if Im home or not. Best $1 ever spent.
I'm using super power, and JD and will be testing out, I'll let you guys know!
On custom. Data turns on every hour and during the night, data is off from 1:30AM to 8:30AM. Data is only activated after unlocking and ignores on low battery below 15%.
Everytime i use this app it starts ****ing with my permisiions and ****s up the phone i finally just said screw it. Its horrible.
I own Juice Defender Ultimate. I use the beta and It says I get around x2.35 on average. I use Advance settings and set them to my liking. I spent a week where i tried one day JD and next day no JD, same process the whole week. ended up as 30-40% more battery with JD.

Cm6 stable battery tips

Can anyone give me tips on howvto save battery ...I have set cpu profiles but it seems to still drain...and auto sync is off too
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There are so many ways but it all depends on how your phone is used.
Got to Settings>About Phone>Battery Use and see what all your battery life is being spent on. From there, figure out a way to cut back on that (if it's your screen, decrease the brightness or turn the screen off when not in use).
Here are a few tips from my own limited testing on a few ROMs like Villision and Enom's as well as CM6.1. First off, I use a helper application like XDA Superpower which basically turns off stuff when the phone is in power save mode like wifi, data, etc. It allows some flexibility of when you allow a data connection to be made. You can also set scheduling for night-time use if you want. The main for me was understanding how I use the phone. My phone use peaks around morning, lunch, early evening. Then I want the wifi or data to support me. I want to download new packages, play around, etc. Other times, the phone is just with me when I travel somewhere. I don't care for it to continuously poll for email. Also check out if you have apps like facebook and seesmic for twitter how often you allow background updates. I turn these way down and allow facebook to update every 4 hours and seesmic every 6 hours.
At the end of my day, I commonly have about 70% battery left after my three major use periods in day. This may include a few phone calls, some text, some intensive newsreading, downloading this or that. I don't listen to streaming music, watch any videos, etc.
I would say you should look at how you use the phone and when you don't. I use juicedefender on enom's and villision ROMs and XDA Superpower on CM.
I don't think there is a magic recipe but once you understand what you use the phone for, you can tailor how data and wifi works, how you get updates, how many widgets you run, etc.
Just some ideas... I'm still searching for a battery that goes forever
Thanks man this was really helpful and the xda app looks interesting ill give it a try
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I use "2g networks only" unless I need wifi or 3g. Honestly, that has doubled my battery life to 24+ hrs easy on med-hvy use daily. The "Netswidget" lets me quickly toggle the network status. BTW...stock, pershoot kernel, oc'd @1017 and @245 when screen is off. Try it out...
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i'm having battery problems too. i'm not a heavy user, but with the original sense rom on my desire z i had two days. the most power (arround 80%) was used by the display. now, on cm rom, i have 38% of mobile standby, 37 of inaktive mobile and 10% are used by android OS. the display is on 4%. all settings are the same on cm rom and sense rom...
i did several battery drains and i deleted the battery stats, ima drain the battery two more times and repeat. right now my phone is at 74% its currently 2:00pm and my phone was at 100% at 3:24am when i took off the charger.

[Q] How to get longer battery life on Deck's gingerbread-evo-deck 1.2.1 Rom

I was wondering is someone can help me. I've been using Deck's ROM's for the HTC EVO 4G for some time now and I hear about all these guys getting 20-30 hrs of battery life. I'm currently on 1.2.1 and have never got probably more then 11 hours out of my battery life with heavy or mederate usage. I've updated all my radios, wimax, etc....I've tried different kernels, I've installed vipermod and undervolted, I have CPU profiles. I've installed a new 3F3D driver. I've tried the wake lock fixes and still nothing has changed. Am I missing something here to how these other guys can get that performance out of their batterys. I'd like to post this directly to his thread but this is my first post and I guess I need at least 10 posts. I'm a bit of a noob but can hold my own.
I run decks with tiamat kernel 4.0.5 and I get outstanding battery life. Give this a try then let me know how it works out. Check your accounts to see if anything is synching that's insignificant. Then check your apps update frequencies. Lastly, turn off all of the haptic feedbacks, animations, and effects. Live wallpapers kill a lot of battery too. You might also want to try enabling and disabling auto brightness to see which is more energy efficient. If your overall goal is great battery life, then a lot of the bells & whistles are pointless.
It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice.
BluInception3 said:
I run decks with tiamat kernel 4.0.5 and I get outstanding battery life. Give this a try then let me know how it works out. Check your accounts to see if anything is synching that's insignificant. Then check your apps update frequencies. Lastly, turn off all of the haptic feedbacks, animations, and effects. Live wallpapers kill a lot of battery too. You might also want to try enabling and disabling auto brightness to see which is more energy efficient. If your overall goal is great battery life, then a lot of the bells & whistles are pointless.
It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice.
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I've tried tiamat 3.3.7, 4.0.5, and 4.0.6 and have got the same results with all three. I've tested each and one of these over about a week period. Currently I am trying SavagedZen 2.2.1 and up til this morning it hasn't changed much. I've took off all auto syncs. All haptic feedbacks, animations, and effects have been turned off. Never use live wallpapers and have read that lighter wallpapers will conserve battery. Right now I have auto brightness off and down to about 35-40%. I did however just checked off data enabled about 2 hrs ago and seem to have got better battery since. So far I'm at 82% with about 4 hours of moderate use. (mostly texting and surfing the web). I didn't know if there was any other tweaks internally that I'm missing or if it's more of a puzzle with what combinations to use.
Just saw my background data was enabled. I unchecked that as well. We will see how this goes I guess.
It seems like it's definitely data related. I downloaded skype from one of the forums strait to the phone and my battery percentage went from 79% to 68% just for the duration of the download. Is this common?
Do you use an SBC kernel? Have you whipped battery stats in recovery? Have you tried using the kernel governors (smartass, powersave, conservative) without setcpu?
It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice.
amase005 said:
It seems like it's definitely data related. I downloaded skype from one of the forums strait to the phone and my battery percentage went from 79% to 68% just for the duration of the download. Is this common?
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No, not with a rom as good as Decks.
It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice.
BluInception3 said:
Do you use an SBC kernel? Have you whipped battery stats in recovery? Have you tried using the kernel governors (smartass, powersave, conservative) without setcpu?
It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice.
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I have used kernels with SBC and without and haven't seen much difference besides the initial 10% loss of battery. I usually I wipe cache, Dalvik cache, and battery stats everytime I flash a new ROM in recovery. I usually do a factory restore too. I've used smartass and savaged zen as governers as well. Currently I'm using savagedzen governer with a max at 1036 and a min at 245. I also calibrate the battery when i flash a new ROM. Currently I'm standing at 60% battery with about 7hrs and 37 min on battery. Probably the best battery life I've seen. I'm still seeing massive drains when I use 3G. I was just on xda forums on my phone for about 5 min. and the battery went from 65% to 60%. If I turn 3G off it stands idle for awhile.
I'm scratching my head trying to think of what will help. You probably won't like this, but when my rom has me stumped with a problem, I wipe and start over. Maybe an extended battery is the answer? They are dirt cheap for the EVO now.
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Yea I was thinking about an extended battery as well. It seems like taking 3G off does wonders for the battery. Are you keeping yours on or off to get great battery life?
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amase005 said:
I have used kernels with SBC and without and haven't seen much difference besides the initial 10% loss of battery. I usually I wipe cache, Dalvik cache, and battery stats everytime I flash a new ROM in recovery. I usually do a factory restore too. I've used smartass and savaged zen as governers as well. Currently I'm using savagedzen governer with a max at 1036 and a min at 245. I also calibrate the battery when i flash a new ROM. Currently I'm standing at 60% battery with about 7hrs and 37 min on battery. Probably the best battery life I've seen. I'm still seeing massive drains when I use 3G. I was just on xda forums on my phone for about 5 min. and the battery went from 65% to 60%. If I turn 3G off it stands idle for awhile.
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Lowering your max and min cpu frequencies will improve your battery life. I've always used 128 MHz as a min with no ill effects. Ever since I got my evo I've kept the max at 998 MHz and it was plenty fast, but I am currently trying out 691 MHz max and it seems just as snappy so far (battery life was great at 998 MHz max for low or moderate usage, but with heavy usage I've noticed it drains too fast). I'll probably try out some lower max frequencies to see how low I can go without affecting performance.
amase005 said:
Yea I was thinking about an extended battery as well. It seems like taking 3G off does wonders for the battery. Are you keeping yours on or off to get great battery life?
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Use JuiceDefender to automatically toggle your data connection (3g/1x) off when the screen is off. This will dramatically improve your battery life especially when you're in areas with poor signal. If you want, you can set it to turn on the data connection at user-defined intervals so emails, google voice, and anything else that needs a data connection to be refreshed periodically can go through. With the paid version, you can even allow exceptions for programs like google music, pandora, or wireless tether, so they can keep the connection while the screen is off if they're in use.
Ill try juicedefender. I had it before but didn't really know what settings to use. Current battery is doing well. I'm curious to if all these people experiencing 20-30 hrs of battery life have data turned off a alot. I'm currently at about 14 hrs. with about 42 percent left. Thanks for all ur advice.
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amase005 said:
Ill try juicedefender. I had it before but didn't really know what settings to use. Current battery is doing well. I'm curious to if all these people experiencing 20-30 hrs of battery life have data turned off a alot. I'm currently at about 14 hrs. with about 42 percent left. Thanks for all ur advice.
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I can easily get over 40 hours with light usage and over 20 hours with moderate usage, but that's only because of JuiceDefender. Without it, my battery drains like crazy at work where there's really bad reception.
I use the customize profile with mobile data enabled, schedule enabled at a frequency of 30 min, and apps enabled when the screen is off for google music, pandora, and wireless tether. I also enable the text notification which puts the icon in the status bar. I've run into problems when I disabled notification where JD gets shut down in low memory situations, but having the icon in the status bar prevents that. I leave wifi, location, and night mode diabled, but that's just because they're not useful for my usage. I'm sure the other profiles work fine as well, but I just like knowing and controlling exactly what JD is going to do.
Try using saveged Zen with conservative governer, viper mod and other little things people have mentioned
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raphenucleus said:
I can easily get over 40 hours with light usage and over 20 hours with moderate usage, but that's only because of JuiceDefender. Without it, my battery drains like crazy at work where there's really bad reception.
I use the customize profile with mobile data enabled, schedule enabled at a frequency of 30 min, and apps enabled when the screen is off for google music, pandora, and wireless tether. I also enable the text notification which puts the icon in the status bar. I've run into problems when I disabled notification where JD gets shut down in low memory situations, but having the icon in the status bar prevents that. I leave wifi, location, and night mode diabled, but that's just because they're not useful for my usage. I'm sure the other profiles work fine as well, but I just like knowing and controlling exactly what JD is going to do.
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I'm going to run JD all day today with those settings to see what it does for battery life with my data on. Yesterday seemed to be the best battery life I've recieved with data off for the majority of the day. Got about 17 hrs with 39% left. I'm happy with that. If JD can get me something like that without having to toggle with data on/off that will be nice.
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Try using saveged Zen with conservative governer, viper mod and other little things people have mentioned
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I've run viper mod with tiamat before and undervolted 50mv with little or no change in the overall performance of the battery. Any suggested settings for savaged zen using viper mod?
Undervolt as much as you can, all phones are different. As for jd, sorry I forgot about that. It's a HUGE improvement. Your battery can pretty much double. It can be a little annoying in some cases.
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Didn't really get to do a full trial on battery life yesterday. I downloaded a Sense Rom and tried some troubleshooting that I read on Deck's page but it didn't work. Today will be the first full day I try JD with 3G on. I will probably try viiper mod tomorrow after the results I get for today. Thank for the help guys.
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Didn't really get to do a full trial on battery life yesterday. I downloaded a Sense Rom and tried some troubleshooting that I read on Deck's page but it didn't work. Today will be the first full day I try JD with 3G on. I will probably try viiper mod tomorrow after the results I get for today. Thank for the help guys.
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You can't judge in one day.. you have to wait like 3 days of use to let it settle down
Deck's + SZ + SuperCharger script + ViperMod script.
I believe I have found what i belive is just about the perfect setup for this ROM
My evo is lightning fast, in app performance is almost comparable to my xoom
And with heavy usage my battery lasts at least twenty hours
Kernel: savaged Zen 2.2.1 bfs
Setcpu info: Max clock to 1136, try 1152 if 1136 is stable for Max clock, min 245. Savaged Zen governor, screen off profile with interactivex governor and min bumped to 384mhz. Eliminates all screen on lag
Market app: chainfire 3d its a graphics driver that increases all animations, 3d effects efficiency and speed, and improves battery life IMO follow in app instructions and install the driver, make sure to nand backup first and to not have the phone connected to the charger or computer when installing
Market app: battery calibration wipes battery stats to build new ones that are correct for your ROM kernel setup
Advanced setting in settings menu: performance settings, VM heap size set to 48
Market app : SD booster set SD cache to 3000 makes all SD apps and media faster.
Market app : busy box install 1.18.4
After all this install any user apps you wish and run fix permissions in ROM manager or recovery
Its a lengthy setup, but there is much profit to be had. This setup is faster then I've ever seen an evo run and has the best battery life of any ROM kernel combo I've tested.
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If you get great battery life, please share your tips here!

I'm currently on the CM7 ROM, I have juice defender and done all the minor tweaks as far as disabling wireless network location, turn off the wifi and GPS, and an app killer. I still only manage at max 9 hours before my phone tells me to recharge.
If your getting great battery life, help me and others by sharing your tips here.
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Best tip is to stay on wifi as much as possible. I got 3 days on wifi and about 4 hours use.
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I turn data off when im not using the internet and when I'm just listening to musc I just put my phone in airplane mode
Yeah, I need some help too. I get about a day and a half with no use at all, and about 10 hours with minimal use. 4 hours with real world usage... I can't deal with this. Could it be the battery? It performs like a 1 year old, used, refurb battery came with a stock phone!
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Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.
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Best tip is to stay on wifi as much as possible. I got 3 days on wifi and about 4 hours use.
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masaidjet said:
I turn data off when im not using the internet and when I'm just listening to musc I just put my phone in airplane mode
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liquiddetox said:
Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.
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all of these... biggest one is to turn off data when the phone is in your pocket. use wifi when u can, avoid using 4g unless plugged in, configure the battery in recovery (i've actually notice that this helps less than anything else for me), and finally: get an extended battery. it's worth the extra hours u can squeeze out of it. don't expect more than 4-5 hours screen on time with any rom/kernel/modem combo with a stock battery.
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Have you configured the battery since flashing the rom?
I get decent enough battery life, with light usage I can go about 36 hours w/o a charge but on my heavy usage days I usually have to use the car charger a few times a day.
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Yeah I also did that wipe battery stats at recovery.
I just thought maybe my expectations were too high, although it seems as if my battery drains drop pretty fast.
I would say about -10% battery drop every hour, just checking the time and send/receive text messages. Occasionally I surf the Web on the phone when on break at work. Other than that the phone is in my pocket, and after my 9 hour workday my phone demands the charger.
This is with the stock battery, so I guess this is normal unless I'm using the extended battery?
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u could also run a kernel that allows for over (under) clocking/undervolting. that helps some, too
get the duricell portable battery extender, add milliamps to your arsinal in one way or another with extended batterys or whatever, if you call sprint and complain loudly and dickly they will rebate you the cost that u spend on a new battery or batt extender whatever... that being said all the above options work great, u can also use night mode on chainfire 3d to save battery, or perhaps half your pixel rate, or perhapes turn off some colors (havent seen an app to do this yet) and reset your battery memory in cwm, kill ur batt, charg while off, then cycle again like that. (theres an app for that) if your not rooted, root your phone. if you dont want to root your phone, cycle ur battery the old fasion way or pop it into a rooted phone and do it.
I used to get really poor battery life (due to my phone not sleeping as evidenced by Spare Parts app). I rooted, used Titanium Backup to freeze various apps, and got an Zboost antenna booster for the office and called Sprint who sent me an Airave for the house. I wiped battery stats and cleared my Dalvic cache and the thing the finally got me right was finding out the Amazon MP3 app was still logged in though not running. Once I made sure I was logged out of that and Lattitude (Google Map feature) and Facebook, I haven't had any problem with a sleeping phone. Stock Froyo, standard battery, but rooted. When they say a bad app keeps your phone from sleeping I think they mean an app that requires log in...although this does not seem to be a problem if you stay logged in from a browser, only from an app!
Breezy357 said:
I'm currently on the CM7 ROM, I have juice defender and done all the minor tweaks as far as disabling wireless network location, turn off the wifi and GPS, and an app killer. I still only manage at max 9 hours before my phone tells me to recharge.
If your getting great battery life, help me and others by sharing your tips here.
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You may be shooting yourself in the foot with some of those things. App killers aren't that useful on Gingerbread since they keep killing apps that just reload on their own, and every time the reload it uses power. Just because an app is loaded doesn't mean it is running. Try letting the system take care of it. Juice Defender may help a little but it keeps shutting down data and starting it up, which means you don't get as much usefulness out of the phone and may waste power in some circumstances.
See what you have set to sync. Turn off any autosyncs you don't need, like weather screens, facebook, etc. If at all possible set them to only sync when you open the program.
I use the exchange option for gmail using the stock samsung app, which gives me push email but doesn't have to keep polling the server. I don't know if that makes a difference compared to imap, but it works well for me. don't think you have that option in CM7.
Wifi is a much more efficient way transfer data than 3G, use it whenever you can, and set it to never sleep. Otherwise the 3G radio keeps starting up again and wasting battery.
You can freeze the DRM stuff if you don't use it. I don't know if it really makes a difference but everyone thinks it does, so I do it.
Having a black wallpaper helps a little because on a AMOLED screen a black pixel uses no power.
The biggest battery killer is being in a bad signal area. If you always have 0 or 1 bars then your phone is going to always be draining the battery trying to find a good cell. In that case Roam Control may help you.
That's about all I do, and with the latest Stock gingerbread EH17 and EI22 I'm sitting with about 40 to 50% left after 12 hours, that's with light to moderate use.
I've been through the ringer with this. I'm pretty comfortable now, routinely managing to have 33% of battery left after 12hrs w/3g always on, sync always on, intermittent music listening, 2.5-3hrs of gaming and general "screen on" time (auto brightness), 1.1 GHz OC, no undervolting, and GPS always on. Here's what I'd suggest:
Flash a ROM w/ NO CIQ (thanks k0nane!) - In addition to being a leech on your privacy it's a leech on your battery. It's old news to long-time Epic owners at this point, but ditching CIQ improves battery life and overall responsiveness of the Epic. A popular stable Froyo ROM for this is SFR 1.2.
Minimize always-running services - Long press your homescreen, select "shortcuts," select "settings," and select "running services." Tap this to see what's running ongoing services (not apps) your phone is running. All of these are drawing current to stay in RAM. Things like Juice Defender, Tasker, and others show up here and draw power in doing so. JD and Tasker especially can drain a lot because they perform constant tasks as well. Uninstall them and let your phone manage itself.
The same goes for task managers and app-stoppers - Froyo and above does this fine on it's own
Freeze/Uninstall system services you don't use - This includes things like Sprint voicemail, the "Email" app, and the "SprintAndroidExtension.apk," and SNS services. You'll most likely find these on the "Running Services Page" as well. You can Titanium Backup to uninstall them, but I recommend the SDX Stock App Remover as that can restore them (TB can't reliably). TB can freeze these as well, which accomplishes basically the same thing. SNS is connected to Facebook, so if you use that a lot you might want to keep it. DRM services can also be removed, but may cause problems reading the SD card. I stay away from it.
Use Spare Parts to monitor wakelock and CPU usage - If you notice something giving you persistent trouble, shut it down. This is time-consuming, but you'll get a good feel for what apps are out there to accomplish similar tasks and which one best suits your needs.
Uninstall apps you don't use - Next time you wipe and flash a new ROM, reinstall or restore backed up apps as you need to use them and not all at once. You may find you don't need quite a few of them, allowing you to keep more space open on your phone and requiring less current to maintain them
Don't charge the battery overnight - most phones can reach capacity in 2-4 hours depending on charge level. Beyond that, holding at or around fully charged will degrade the battery by denying it the ability to release the stored energy. I charge mine in the evening a few hours before bed and top it off in the morning before leaving for work.
Get an 1800mAh battery sold for the Epic Touch - this is what moved me form "getting by" to "definitely comfortable." For around $25 (incl shipping) on ebay, I've gotten a new lease on my Epic's life. It may seem like cheating to bring in a new battery, but it makes a lot of difference WITHOUT adding more bulge to your phone (makes it a tad heavier though).
Hope this helps. Remember, of course, that what works for one phone won't necessarily work for another. Despite being the same model, minor imperfections in silicone can create individual temperaments for each phone.
I as always trying to make my battery last by stopping this and uninstalling that. Then I thought; why did I buy this phone with all of these capabilities to turn them all off
So, something like the "Hyperion Sprint Samsung Epic Touch 4G 2 x Battery + Charger" (too "young" to post a direct link)
Would fit in/work with the Epic 4G (without needing a new cover)? Even though its for the Touch?
Lol, I've been doing many of the suggestions across the board, and have gotten much better results. But I'm still not "comfortable" with my battery strength, especially when I'm unable to charge my phone all day...
Looking into your running services is a big one. week ago my battery life greatly decreased. I kept seeing market update pending and it wouldnt go away. Never update never go away. I manually updated the market and the battery is back to wonderful. It drops 2-3% at night off charger. Thats about 8 hours.
A sticky with all the main running services and which ones you can stop would be wonderful. I have sns services running. I think i can stop it but not positive. I also have sanservice running supposedly some type of samsung update. Its not doing anything but its been running for 2 days. No negative effect on battery(that i notice) but its running. Also make sure you turn location off. Ive also noticed that even when you back out of google maps its still in running services. A restart fixes that but thats annoying.
themow said:
Looking into your running services is a big one. week ago my battery life greatly decreased. I kept seeing market update pending and it wouldnt go away. Never update never go away. I manually updated the market and the battery is back to wonderful. It drops 2-3% at night off charger. Thats about 8 hours.
A sticky with all the main running services and which ones you can stop would be wonderful. I have sns services running. I think i can stop it but not positive. I also have sanservice running supposedly some type of samsung update. Its not doing anything but its been running for 2 days. No negative effect on battery(that i notice) but its running. Also make sure you turn location off. Ive also noticed that even when you back out of google maps its still in running services. A restart fixes that but thats annoying.
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SNSservice is a Facebook and Feeds and Updates Widget service. ALWAYS stop it. It does not matter to Facebook, even if you use it, but if you remove the Feeds and Updates Widget on one of your screens, that service continues to search for it and will kill your battery in a matter of hours (it starts a "restarting" loop). Either leave the widget on or kill this service after every reboot or if you are rooted, freeze it along with DRM service.
My other battery tips are to log out or sign out of every app such as Lattitude, Facebook, Amazon MP3 (it's ok to use them, but don't just back/exit out, actually sign out of them so you have to log back in next time). Apparently, staying signed in causes your phone to not sleep and you can't find what is causing it (i.e. you can't see it "running" anywhere...people call it a misbehaving app, and you would have to delete apps one at a time to find it by trial and error).

[Q] Tips on Improving battery life in Airplane mode?

I use my mostly as a media device, but since I'm always near a wifi connection either at home, on campus or whatever, I also use Google Voice and Talkatone for free calls and texts and it works great. I also got two brand new Anker batteries and an external charger and they work fine (my old stock battery swelled and was just overall dead). So I'll use my phone in Airplane mode with Wifi on and I get around 22 hours with 90 minutes screen on time, which is decent, but I feel like it should be better than that. Depending on the ROM, I have gotten as much as 40 hours battery life (which is great) and as little as 14 hours, and this is ALL on Airplane mode with Wifi toggling, so I'm guessing its software/settings related.
i am on a new ROM as of yesterday so I want to make sure I have my settings the best from the jump. I turned off all Location services, screen brightness is low and with the exception of push gmail and google voice notifications, the shortest polling interval time I have for any app is 4 hours. Any other settings I can change to maximize battery life?
One thing you can try using gsam battery monitor to see of anything keeps the phone awake when the screen is off.
You can hibernate apps with greenify and can use dsbatterysaver to kill data on screen off.
Edit: you can also use Romtoolbox to lower max CPU speed to 800/1000mhz and set governor to powersave/conservative depending on the kernel you're running.
Tegrak can help undervolt but the app is a paid app. Romtoolbox has a free version.
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One thing you can try using gsam battery monitor to see of anything keeps the phone awake when the screen is off.
You can hibernate apps with greenify and can use dsbatterysaver to kill data on screen off.
Edit: you can also use Romtoolbox to lower max CPU speed to 800/1000mhz and set governor to powersave/conservative depending on the kernel you're running.
Tegrak can help undervolt but the app is a paid app. Romtoolbox has a free version.
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To OP:
tt281gt has some great suggestions... I had an issue with conservative governor causing my flacs to skip. I was also running at 1000mhz. I changed to pegasusq and it was good to go. At one point I was using one of Kobridge's tweaks.I think it was Placebo2.0 It was the one where you had to pick like shift1,2,3 or 4 . Shift 3 had some great mods for the conservative gov. It was still great on battery but lost any laggyness. I know he has newer products that might be better than that. Maybe you can hit him up directly with your scenario and he can point you in the right direction. What your asking for is right up his alley!

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