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Before we get an update (well if it will sort the problem...) I wonder if we could collect the best tricks and tips how to save battery life on Desire? Some of you have experience of apps and widgets that drain the battery fast, then we have the usual (turn of 3g, wifi, avoid white backgrounds etc).
What you think? Lets share what we found out!
- Turn off any auto-update for anything unless you really (really) need them
- Even if you really (REALLY) need auto-update, set auto-update period to longer interval (why do you want to get weather update every hour? just an example)
- Again, review your auto-update apps/widgets!!!
- Turn off GPS. Turn this on only when you are going to use sat nav app
- Turn off Wi-Fi. It is obvious, turn it on when needed and dont forget to turn off!
- Turn off Bluetooth, unless you want to use it (headphone???)
- Don't use task killer of any kind unless you really (REALLY) know what you are doing. Let Android OS take care of killing those inactive apps, Android is designed for this.
- Set your screen brightness as low as possible your eyes could use. Full brightness is really not necessary unless you want to show off to iPhone users
- Limit your home screen widgets, think if you really want to use to have "quick look". Otherwise you can just put icon shortcut, one click and there you go!
- Choose AMOLED friendly apps. Meaning, avoid any white or extreme bright UI / background colors. For example: The XDA Android app created by Tapatalk is AMOLED friendly compared to browsing via web, because it uses black color background. Find apps that you can customize the color
- Choose AMOLED friendly themes. I would replace the default HTC big clock that uses white color with other that uses black color.
That's for now
The first charge is important for the battery and your device too. The battery has to be charged long time, 12-16 hours first time to use all the chemicals it has. Some says that the polymer batteries don't need the first big charge but specialist's says it's good practise to do it with the LiPoly batteries too.
Note: it's best practise to wait until the battery reaches it's critical level (around 5%) before you start the first big charge. The first charge also calibrates your devices power meter.
Mastoid said:
The first charge is important for the battery and your device too. The battery has to be charged long time, 12-16 hours first time to use all the chemicals it has. Some says that the polymer batteries don't need the first big charge but specialist says it's good practice to do it with the LiPoly batteries too.
Note, that you have to wait until the battery reaches it's critical level (around 5%) before start the first big charge. The first charge also calibrates your devices power meter.
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Is this really really true? I hopefully will be getting a new Desire tomorrow (for exchange) and when I received my previous one, I didn't drain the battery and then charge for 12 hours. I would not mind doing it if it really improves the battery life but I've seen conflicting articles/opinions about this whole 12 hours charge thing
From HTC FAQ
http://www.htc.com/www/faqs.aspx?p_id=312&cat=80&id=127114
When I first receive my phone, do I need to charge the battery?
Your phone ships with a partially charged battery so it's suggested you charge your battery fully before first use. The battery is fully charged when the notification LED turns green.
It is recommended to charge the battery for 8 hours the first time to ensure that the battery has had time to recharge.
Note: It is recommended that you only use the charger and cable provided in the box your phone was shipped in.
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HoneyBeFly said:
Is this really really true? I hopefully will be getting a new Desire tomorrow (for exchange) and when I received my previous one, I didn't drain the battery and then charge for 12 hours. I would not mind doing it if it really improves the battery life but I've seen conflicting articles/opinions about this whole 12 hours charge thing
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Thanks for that although if I remember correctly on the Desire quick quide it says I need to charge it for 3 hours for the first time. Regardless, it insinuates that I shouldn't drain the battery before the first charge
Please try and read about how a li-ion battery works.
NiCd and NiMH need longer (and slow) initial charge(s). Because indeed the battery still needs to form. Usually 5 charges, but cheap ones reach max capacity after eg 15 charges.
This is NOT the case for li-ion batteries. They have max capacity as soon as they roll out of the factory. And they start degrading from that point.
Keeping the Desire charged longer has no use. Because as soon as the battery is full, the internal chip will cut off the charge. So you can just as well plug out your charger.
There are so many voodoo stories about batteries, even from manufacturers. Probably because each battery chemistry need different handling. Whereas li-ion batteries are actually much more easy. They don't last too long though :/
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Every now and then you get a notification of available updates to apps... anyone knows how this works and if it does drain the battery? Is there a way to turnthe update check off?
Can you try this:
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f12/how-to-turn-off-application-upgrade-check-12723/
Let us know the result.
jannen said:
Every now and then you get a notification of available updates to apps... anyone knows how this works and if it does drain the battery? Is there a way to turnthe update check off?
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I have been getting terrible battery life since I mistakenly reset the battery statistics in recovery.
I have recalibrated my battery, but I am only getting like 8 hours.
What can I use to see what is using the battery? I think there is something in spare parts, but I am not sure what to look at there.
Any apps or methods would help me determine what is chewing it up is much appreciated.
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I have been getting terrible battery life since I mistakenly reset the battery statistics in recovery.
I have recalibrated my battery, but I am only getting like 8 hours.
What can I use to see what is using the battery? I think there is something in spare parts, but I am not sure what to look at there.
Any apps or methods would help me determine what is chewing it up is much appreciated.
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It could just be that your phone is incorrectly reporting how much battery life you have since you reset them, and a couple days of usage will just allow it to gather more data and get more accurate.
But if there is an errant app draining your battery, a combination of spare parts and an app called SystemPanel should allow you to narrow it down to what's causing problems.
Plug your phone in for a minute, then unplug it, let the phone sit with the screen off for 25 minutes or so, then go to spare parts->Battery History, then choose other usage and since last unplugged. The running % should be close to the screen on %. If the running % is way higher than screen on, that means something is running while your screen is off.
I paid for the full version of systempanel for the system monitoring feature, but i think you can use the free version to just check which apps are running. Things like google voice should say running, but just about everything else should say background. If you have an app that you downloaded, but haven't been using in a while saying service, there's a good chance that's what's causing your phone to run the batteries out. Garbage apps like Grooveshark (which I still use because I can't live without grooveshark) will run even after you could have sworn you closed out of them.
The paid version of systempanel makes things easier because you can set it to monitor, then come back and look at what apps have been using cpu cycles even when the phone isn't being used. The system processes are always going to use cpu cycles, but apps like Swype will (or did at one point) keep the phone from properly sleeping, and you can tell by all the cpu they're using even when the screen is off.
Ah, that is a good point. 2 apps that I did change were I installed Tiger Text (neat app but rather sure that drains the juice) and I put on a different version of swype.
Thanks for the tips, I will run with that.
More reading I am doing I think the mistake I made, is that I reset my battery statistics when my battery was only half full.
I put in a full battery, reset statistics, and will let it drain, that should calibrate the phone correctly.
Thanks for the tips though, I will keep those in mind.
Can someone please give me some advice on what to do with my battery! Only been on for about 7 hours and I'm already at 34%!! Well 33 as of now.. This is NOT normal! Only talked for about an hour total today! I always have wifi on because I don't have a data plan! -Medium usage.
-pics enclosed!
-system info/rom/kernel info!
-please help!! Thanks!
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Some advice I can shed on this is having Wifi on all the time, (by all the time you mean at least 24/7), that could be a strong point why your battery life is low. Another thing is the number of apps that require data being pulled running in the background
1. Having Wifi on for the time you state is bad if you don't have a signal. Reason why is that since there is no signal for your Wifi to obtain it will continue to search and fail, search and fail which actually drains some good amount of battery being forced to repeat such a task unlike when having a steady signal it's usage becomes minimal
2. High number of data pulling apps also works the same except then have the option to change the time they pull data which can be usually found under settings/options tab
Try these out and let us know how it goes =]
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Some advice I can shed on this is having Wifi on all the time, (by all the time you mean at least 24/7), that could be a strong point why your battery life is low. Another thing is the number of apps that require data being pulled running in the background
1. Having Wifi on for the time you state is bad if you don't have a signal. Reason why is that since there is no signal for your Wifi to obtain it will continue to search and fail, search and fail which actually drains some good amount of battery being forced to repeat such a task unlike when having a steady signal it's usage becomes minimal
2. High number of data pulling apps also works the same except then have the option to change the time they pull data which can be usually found under settings/options tab
Try these out and let us know how it goes =]
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Thanks for the info
When I have wifi on, I am always somewhere where I have wifi. I do leave it on while driving, but that's no more that a few minutes until it reconnects.
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Hmmmmm
I barely noticed that you are running a custom rom. After flashing the new rom did you wipe battery stats? If not, that can actually affect battery life as all roms run differently and different data is applied to the battery stat
There are two ways to go about wiping the stats. You can boot into recovery and Wipe Dalvik Cache under the advanced settings or you can download Battery Calibration from the marketplace which in my experience is a lot easier
Battery Calibration
The instructions are inside the app on how to implement the process
I had this rom for a while but when I flashed it, I did not wipe data or anything. I decided to wipe data to give it a try and reflashed it. I charged it completely and calibrated it. I am in the process of running the battery until it dies so I can recharge it to complete the calibration process.
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Be sure to post back your results and hopefully if nothing has improved I'll try again to assist you =]
Ran it last night untill it was dead and let it charge throughout the night. Testing battery life now! Will post results when at 8 hours. Would post at 7 again but I am gooing on a college visit today and won't be using it then.
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DroidCell said:
Ran it last night untill it was dead and let it charge throughout the night. Testing battery life now! Will post results when at 8 hours. Would post at 7 again but I am gooing on a college visit today and won't be using it then.
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DO NOT drain the battery until it dies!!! Just down to 15-20%, then charge to full, repeat a couple times. Over-discharge is not good for Li ion batteries.
People on here keep recommending it, or saying they do it. Its NOT a good idea, and proliferating this bad advice needs to stop. Draining the battery to dead is bad for the life of the battery. Also over-discharge can possibly render the battery unable to take a charge, requiring you to buy a new battery. It doesn't happen often, but its happened to a few different people on this phone, and other phones as well.
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DO NOT drain the battery until it dies!!! Just down to 15-20%, then charge to full, repeat a couple times. Over-discharge is not good for Li ion batteries.
People on here keep recommending it, or saying they do it. Its NOT a good idea, and proliferating this bad advice needs to stop. Draining the battery to dead is bad for the life of the battery. Also over-discharge can possibly render the battery unable to take a charge, requiring you to buy a new battery. It doesn't happen often, but its happened to a few different people on this phone, and other phones as well.
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You seem to know a lot so i'm gonna ask ya redpoint. People say there is a built in safety zone so even when the battery is reporting as 0 it really isn't. The batteries do not allow themselves to get below a certain threshold for the reason you are explaining. Is this not true? Lots of people who know nothing of xda or cell phones in general let there phone run the whole way out for whatever reason. I would think that cell/battery manufacturers would take that into consideration.
the reason people used to tell you to drain the battery complete was based on an older battery tech that has what you would call a "memory" it needs to "memorize" it's lowest and highest point in order to calibrate the battery. Li-ions do not need that. They actually keep track of your charge cycles.
suppose it can handle 1000 cycles. on the first day, you used up 75% of your battery and put it on the charger to max. then the next day you use another 75% and do the same thing. at this point what actually happens is that the battery will count this as 1.5 cycles rather than 2 cycles. But redpoint is right.
Do NOT drain the battery completely when it's a Li-ion battery. it's old advice for old tech battery that is legit for that type of battery but not Li-ion batteries.
To calibrate your battery, you just use your phone normally. It will figure out where it is supposed to be as you use and charge it over the course of a few days.
better battery life
Notice on the graph, the screen was not on for a while though...
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You seem to know a lot so i'm gonna ask ya redpoint. People say there is a built in safety zone so even when the battery is reporting as 0 it really isn't. The batteries do not allow themselves to get below a certain threshold for the reason you are explaining. Is this not true? Lots of people who know nothing of xda or cell phones in general let there phone run the whole way out for whatever reason. I would think that cell/battery manufacturers would take that into consideration.
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It is true that there is a built in 'safety zone' so that the battery does not drain completely to zero.
However, it is also true that this 'safety zone' can and HAS failed for some users (including some who are on these forums)
With the way that Li-Ion batteries work, and 'calibrate', there is no added benefit to draining it completely to zero. If there is no benefit, then the risk is not worth it.
DroidCell said:
Can someone please give me some advice on what to do with my battery! Only been on for about 7 hours and I'm already at 34%!! Well 33 as of now.. This is NOT normal! Only talked for about an hour total today! I always have wifi on because I don't have a data plan! -Medium usage.
-pics enclosed!
-system info/rom/kernel info!
-please help!! Thanks!
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These ideas ran through my mind reading your post:
I. You might want to calibrate your battery. I've run into many instruction how to do this (just google the keywords: Desire Z calibrate battery), but basically the ones that do NOT require you to drain your battery to zero first, came down to this:
0. Turn Fastboot OFF!
1. Power on your Desire then connect to your Charger and Fully charge until the LED changes Green.
2. Disconnect your phone from the charger and then power off.
3. Reconnect your phone to your charger with the power off and wait for the green LED.
4. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on.
5. Once the phone has fully booted / ready to use ... power off again.
6. With the power off connect the phone to the charger and wait for the green LED.
7. Disconnect from the Charger then power on and use normally.
Many people seem to have greatly increased their battery life just by following those simple steps. I am currently in the process of trying it myself, but will probably need some hours before I can verify if the overall life has significantly increased.
II. You might want to install an App like "Watchdog lite" for a longterm check if you have any apps or processes, that work as a battery eater in the background.
III. if the above tips should fail, you might want to upgrade your radio and maybe also align the radio library (RIL), to match it best with your radio and ROM. But do a lot of reading and research before actually performing that task, since this is nothing for beginners and might even make things worse. This thread might be a good point to start your research.
hope that helps,
Tronar
So I switched from the iphone with edge to the Tmo S2 with Jugg 5.0 ROM + Go Launcher. I really appreciate the 4g speed. However, the overall experience is not as smooth as the iphone and the battery life sucks big time. I normally have to constantly plug the phone in whenever I can. It works ok when I'm at work but when I'm out all day my battery won't last more than half a day. It's so bad to the extent that I have to turn off my phone and turn on when I need to call or text so I can keep the phone alive the whole day. I tried Juice Defender but it didn't help my battery at all.
Yesterday I spent a few hours on XDA and I came up with these solution to my battery problem:
+DarkSide Digital Warfare v2.7 ROM (couldn't find 2.5.1 version)
+Flash Synergy Kernel over (supposed to give better battery)
+SetCPU app (auto detection)
+Zeam launcher
So far, it seems to be better on the battery. Is there anything else I could add to make my battery last longer? I need the phone to last at least the whole day without charge. I'm constantly on 4g looking up stocks, reading news, email, google voice, grooveip, facebook, turn by turn navigation, music, netflix, youtube ...
Thanks,
Welcome to Android.
From what it appears, you seem to be a heavy user. The most you can get out of a Android device with heavy usage is 3/4 of a day (14-18hrs) tops.
You have 2 choices, either you travel with the power cord not to far away and plug it when you need it or you invest a whooping 10$ and buy another battery.
There are tricks to keeping your battery healthy but lasting all day as a heavy user will be very difficult.
If this is a new phone it takes a week or so for the battery to settle in a hold a charge well. After a week or so you'll notice your battery is lasting longer. Also make sure that nothing is keeping your phone awake 100%. Some apps don't play nice and cause issues. Welcome to Android.
Note: navigation kills battery fast, when your using it try to plug into a car charger or something.
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There are a lot of things you can do to improve battery.
1. Juice Defender (which you say you have already tried)
2. Limit the number of widgets you run or run no widgets like I do
3. Turn the screen brightness down all the way
4. Don't use Live Wallpaper, also, try to pick a dark coloured wallpaper since white/light colours seem to use up more battery.
5. Uninstall apps you don't use.
6. Turn off GPS unless you need to use it.
7. Turn off sync completely or only have your gmail sync. I don't need to be notified when I get a facebook message so I don't need it syncing every few minutes or every hour, I can check that manually myself.
8. Turn off animations.
9. Close background apps that are running that you aren't using.
10. Use Task Manager to close open apps when you are done using it. Task Manger is your friend.
11. Enable Power Saver Mode.
etc etc.
Those are the main things that I tend to do. I plug my phone in every night before I go to bed as well so I am not sure how long my battery actually lasts. But typically after 16hrs of use I still have 60% battery when I go to bed.
Currently my phone has been on for 7hrs 15mins and I have 87% battery. So you can do the math. I am not as heavy a user as you seem to be, but hope this helps. Peace.
Check out this video it helps show you how to save battery. Enjoy!
Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
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1. Juice Defender (which you say you have already tried)
2. Limit the number of widgets you run or run no widgets like I do
3. Turn the screen brightness down all the way
4. Don't use Live Wallpaper, also, try to pick a dark coloured wallpaper since white/light colours seem to use up more battery.
5. Uninstall apps you don't use.
6. Turn off GPS unless you need to use it.
7. Turn off sync completely or only have your gmail sync. I don't need to be notified when I get a facebook message so I don't need it syncing every few minutes or every hour, I can check that manually myself.
8. Turn off animations.
9. Close background apps that are running that you aren't using.
10. Use Task Manager to close open apps when you are done using it. Task Manger is your friend.
11. Enable Power Saver Mode.
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I'm up 5hr 45mins on battery and my battery is at 41%. Let's see if it will last for today. I will put Juice Defender in tonight to test out the battery tomorrow.
DroidNo0b said:
Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
I'm up 5hr 45mins on battery and my battery is at 41%. Let's see if it will last for today. I will put Juice Defender in tonight to test out the battery tomorrow.
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You could run Juggernaut with Faux Kernel and Gideon's battery scripts. Or Telus T989D stock ROM lightly tweaked with same kernel and script. Got good results on those as well. Good luck.
Btw, has anyone had tremendous increase in battery life using the after market extended battery?
Thanks,
Use fox star rom
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Btw, has anyone had tremendous increase in battery life using the after market extended battery?
Thanks,
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If you are talking about extended batteries that don't require a custom enlarged back cover, you will not get the battery increase that you are looking for, not even close. I cannot speak for the heavy duty ones that require an enlarged back as I do not own one
Gideon's scripts are great with Juggs. Underclock it as well like 384-1080 is a great setting. Also let die all the way down and charge all the way up and repeat for a few cycles. And don't stare at your phone every few seconds either lol! Another thing are the notification lighting buttons at the bottom. Drop to 1.5 seconds.
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If you are talking about extended batteries that don't require a custom enlarged back cover, you will not get the battery increase that you are looking for, not even close. I cannot speak for the heavy duty ones that require an enlarged back as I do not own one
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I have the extended 3800mah battery. It's insanely fat and makes the phone look hideous. On top of that I really don't feel like the battery lasts all that long at all. It's in my pocket all day at school and by 3:30 I'm at 35%. This thing cost me 65$. Total ripoff. I'd suggest spending 20$ and buying two more regular batteries. See what that does for you all
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A few things you can do on ANY ROM to improve battery life.
*) Decrease screen timeout to the lowest possible setting.
*) Adjust screen brightness to the lowest level you can tolerate.
*) Decrease the backlight key timeout to the lowest setting ( or off if you have the option )
*) Be sure to only have wifi and gps on if you are using them.
Those will help quite a bit in general however, a ROM like Juggs is meant to really take advantage of the power of your device so its probably wise to move to a different one if max battery is your goal. I love Juggs but had to move on to the AOSP stuff. Also, heed the advice above, allow the ROM a few days to "settle" before making a switch or even a judgement of its performance.
Thanks for the replies guys. So my phone lasted for 9hrs today which is a little bit of improvement. I was streaming netflix for half an hr on the train on the way back home so that may have drained the battery. I have just installed JD, will post back how it goes tomorrow.
So the extended battery is a no go eh. I really don't want to lug around a few extra batteries. I want to carry as little as possible. I normally carry my phone and my ipad but now I tend to not use the ipad much now because the S2 screen is pretty gigantic for a phone.
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Thanks for the inputs guys. I should have said I was looking for Rom/Mod/Scripts/Apps... that can be flashed onto the rooted phone. I have done all the basic battery saving housekeepings as listed by Chochiwpg.
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I know the point was already made but just to reiterate, you can get 2 Anker extended batteries (same size as regular battery) and a universal charger for like $20. This will leave you with three batteries. One for the charger, one for the pocket, and one for the phone. With this system its pretty easy to always have one full battery ready to go and one charging. The battery is small and can just go in your pocket, or maybe even in your wallet depending on your preferences. It solves the problem completely. I don't think you are going to do much better because if you are a heavy user then your battery is going to be used because your phone isn't going to be sleeping.
Good luck.
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I know the point was already made but just to reiterate, you can get 2 Anker extended batteries (same size as regular battery) and a universal charger for like $20. This will leave you with three batteries. One for the charger, one for the pocket, and one for the phone. With this system its pretty easy to always have one full battery ready to go and one charging. The battery is small and can just go in your pocket, or maybe even in your wallet depending on your preferences. It solves the problem completely. I don't think you are going to do much better because if you are a heavy user then your battery is going to be used because your phone isn't going to be sleeping.
Good luck.
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If you read my post above. I'm against the idea lugging around too many things. It's also a hassle to swap the battery and keep them all charged. I may be a heavy user but it's not like I use the phone all the time. I use the phone heavily early in the morning on the way to work and after 5pm on the way home after work. The commute each way is roughly 45 mins. In between the commutes i make a few calls and texts through GV. I don't think i'm that of a really heavy user.
Anyway, it's noon and I'm at 75% with JD on and setCPU to 384-1084mhz which is pretty promising.
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Since you changed kernals, you aren't going to benefit from TDJ's battsaver script you can use with the stock 2.7 kernal.
Go lower on the max frequency. Something below 800 mhz. Setting a negative gloval mV doesn't hurt, and if you can get to -62.5, that's great.
Oh, and when using data, try GSM only...
To be honest, the larger problem with battery life is typically the user. There's no real magic on making the phone last longer other than using it less. If you're going to be power using the hell out of it by using 4g for hours streaming media, your battery is going to be ****.
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Since you changed kernals, you aren't going to benefit from TDJ's battsaver script you can use with the stock 2.7 kernal.
Go lower on the max frequency. Something below 800 mhz. Setting a negative gloval mV doesn't hurt, and if you can get to -62.5, that's great.
Oh, and when using data, try GSM only...
To be honest, the larger problem with battery life is typically the user. There's no real magic on making the phone last longer other than using it less. If you're going to be power using the hell out of it by using 4g for hours streaming media, your battery is going to be ****.
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Don't you think it is ironic for me to switch from the iphone to the S2 because I couldn't stand the slow 2g Edge connection then have to lower data speed to GSM (2g) just so I can use the S2 long enough?
I think the S2 is one heck of a device but the OS and Apps are not running very efficiently.
I tried the ICS ROM ARKSIDE.UCLE2:: x[BETA07.1] in the last 2 days with setCPU at 384-1026Mhz. I have had great battery life. I got home at 12 am yesterday with a 2% battery. Today it's been 7 hrs on battery and my battery is at 70%. I don't know if it is the ROM, setCPU or a combination of the two but I'm pretty happy with the phone right now. ICS is awesome too.
I highly recommend that solution to anyone having a short battery life problem with their S2.
It is a little ironic since you did bring up the comparison. What I was attempting to do was to bring the phone more into spec of an iphone to get similar battery life. You're probably going to even get better runtimes due to the battery having a much larger capacity and better screen technology. All that superior hardware packed in the t989 is going to need more juice to run.
It's great you're getting good runtimes now. From my personal experience, once I drop down to the single digit percentages, it starts lasting a lot longer per percent. If you wanted to squeeze all you can from the device, those 2000mah aftermarket cells might add another 15~30 minutes.
Rule 1: If you haven't taken these steps, you haven't done a thing in the way of actually optimizing your battery life, and please do not complain that your battery is bad if you haven't at least done steps 1 and 2!
Step 1: Use BetterBatteryStats: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
This will diagnose battery drain issues. If you have apps that are sucking battery in the background, this will show it. Google the ones that have high partial wakelock, and usually you will get a diagnosis. It is also sometimes very easy to figure out what is sucking battery just by looking at the application that is holding wakelocks or having many alarm wakeups.
Step 2: Sync settings, make sure that all of them are either at push or as high as you're personally willing to allow between sync checkups. Any sync settings that happen too often will trash battery life.
Step 3: Radio based drain is a very big part of battery life! As such, if you do not need constant sync, you can turn off mobile data on your own when you do not need it, or go to the Mobile Network settings and disable always on mobile data. This can greatly increase battery life, but at the expense of sync not working when mobile data is off.
Step 4: Display brightness can greatly affect the power drain of the battery! You can either manually control the brightness, download Lux autobrightness to make your own autobrightness settings, or flash a custom autobrightness setting in the ROM in order to achieve this. It also can have the side effect of making the display of the right brightness when in the sun and in the dark, so it is always at ideal brightness to preserve battery.
Step 5: Make sure that the battery is calibrated. This is not very complicated. Download currentwidget from the market, put it on a homescreen. Charge the device until currentwidget indicates 0 mA charge. Use the phone until the phone shuts off. You might want to then go to hboot and drain the battery until it shuts off again, and then do a full charge again. Only do this once every 2-3 months, because this is bad for the battery.
Step 6: Adblocking! One big cause of battery drain and unnecessary network usage is downloading ads. If rooted, use Adaway and Adblock to block ads from ever being downloaded, and use Adaway's adware feature to detect and remove apps with adware!
Step 7: A radical step is to use Core Control or something similar to either underclock, undervolt, or just shut off cores. Undervolting is always highly suggested, as it will help reduce heat and give the phone a longer lifetime, but underclocking and shutting off cores will reduce performance!
Step 8: Custom ROMs and kernel experimentation might yield just a bit more in the way of battery life, and also give much more customization and features.
After this, you have likely topped out all that can be reasonably done to extend battery life. If you find that your battery drain is still poor, perhaps you have a defective battery, or maybe even a defective device (Highly unlikely, but who knows...). It is also possible that you simply have a use case that is much more than the phone can accomplish, in which case you can either use a battery case, or an external battery to charge the phone on the go.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
Step 5: Make sure that the battery is calibrated. This is not very complicated. Download currentwidget from the market, put it on a homescreen. Charge the device until currentwidget indicates 0 mA charge. Use the phone until the phone shuts off. You might want to then go to hboot and drain the battery until it shuts off again, and then do a full charge again. Only do this once every 2-3 months, because this is bad for the battery..
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Weird, I've tried this many times, and can't get the indicator show exactly 0 mA...
the lowest for me around 3-5 mA... :|
what do you mean by undervolt because i dont understand..what are the consequences ?
nemer12 said:
what do you mean by undervolt because i dont understand..what are the consequences ?
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if too much undervolting the phone freezes/ reboot ....so the best value for undervolting is between 50 and 100mv ....in some cases undervolting increases battery life and makes the phone cooler but not much ...
Under volting is when you tell the battery to provide a little less power than usual.
Which is why the battery life usually increases, as less battery is being used than previously.
But as stated, too much can cause the battery to not provide ENOUGH power, therefor crashes and cannot boot properly etc.
One-X-master said:
if too much undervolting the phone freezes/ reboot ....so the best value for undervolting is between 50 and 100mv ....in some cases undervolting increases battery life and makes the phone cooler but not much ...
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Pretty much, I would say. Drastic increase of battery in games: phone won't get hot => battery will last longer without overheating and, what is much more important, it will stay healthier in long run.
Even on wall charger while playing, my HOX won't overheat with - 100mv UV.
This is the main feature I miss on JB Sense without custom kernels
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THANK YOU
MysteryE said:
Weird, I've tried this many times, and can't get the indicator show exactly 0 mA...
the lowest for me around 3-5 mA... :|
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Same here. On both my old HTC Sensation, and my HOX. Never saw the mA reach 0. Even after leaving on the charger for a couple of days.
DarkManHaze said:
Same here. On both my old HTC Sensation, and my HOX. Never saw the mA reach 0. Even after leaving on the charger for a couple of days.
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The problem is, the phone cannot get the same amount of energy, it consume (in fact, it is the millisecond, where the phone is fully charged, than it discharges for some minutes, than it will be charged again for three minutes and so on periodically). So, what I mean, you will almost never see 0 ma on one X or other modern phones. You can only see that, if device can disable battery while it is fully charge and use wall charger like a main supply. And the last device with such behavior was Huawei s7 back to 2010
So, 3-5ma is pretty ok.
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