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While looking at headphones tonight, a question arose in my mind of whether it would be possible to get the Touch HD to monitor the surrounding noise through it's microphone, flip the phase and then "add" that to the music/video being played. That's effectively what active noise cancelling cans are doing. The HD has a microphone. It also has a headphone socket...
Does the HD support more than one audio output at once? would it be as simple as my mind thinks it is? Would the Blackstone have enough processing power to do this properly?
I can't program at all so was wondering if any of you more talented XDA-ers had thought of this!
Well, I had the same idea a couple month ago. A friends friend got onto it - some sort of "noise technician" with fancy lab and all.
Unfortunately he came to the conclusion that while it's no problem to program it, it won't be worth the time.
Why? Well, the noise that arrives at the mic of the phone is (technically) very different from the one that arrives at your ears. Noise cancellation effect would be close to zero - if not even make things worse. That's why all these noise-canceling Hardware solutions have the mic directly at the ear.
Dammit ... was pretty frustrated.
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We all know that HTC is heavily promoting the conference call feature with the big speaker on the back, but I haven't heard a single thing about the music quality.
So, a simple question to anyone who's been able to test out the TP2. How good is the speaker for listening to music?
Good question
I want to know too
Hope it has dual stereo speakers and not only one big on the back
Well, I thought I saw something like this in its launch video, and all it said about speakers is "Bi-Amped Dual Speaker phone". I think that means two speakers. The video is here if you'd like to interpret it for yourself. And maybe I'm just crazy, but I think I remember hearing that there is a dedicated woofer and tweeter on this device, so that could very well mean good audio quality. In addition, since HTC is advertising that conference calling feature so much, it seems that they would want good audio quality on it, otherwise it's just another speaker phone capable device. Just my thoughts anyway.
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woeds said:
We all know that HTC is heavily promoting the conference call feature with the big speaker on the back, but I haven't heard a single thing about the music quality.
So, a simple question to anyone who's been able to test out the TP2. How good is the speaker for listening to music?
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Judging from HTC's spec, "Noise-cancelling dual microphones and speakers", suggests more than 1 speaker. It ends with an 'S'. So 2 Speakers. 2 Speakers must be better than 1.
Guys, I am aware that the specs are better, but I'm wondering how that translates into real world performance. A speaker that's good enough for clear conference calls, isn't necessarily good enough for quality music playback
I can understand you completely. I think the only ones that can answer this is the ones that had the device for preview testings. Or you can wait until June, when it comes out.
For those that arnt aware, Bi-amped means the one speaker takes in two signals. Usualy one signal for the low frequences, and another for the mid's and highs. This results (due to genraly more power to the speaker) in cleaner/louder sound. But its also dependant on how much power is being put to it.
In theory, if these little speakers are in fact, bi-amped, they should sound alot better than if they were not, but this could also mean it sucks up more battery power.
Guys, DO you think HTC have resolve the soft speaker that is on the Nexus One?
Hopefully, HTC improved the speaker fidelity in Desire or used a better speaker brand in Desire... Doesn't make sense that HTC used a lousy speaker for the Nexus One for an expensive phone..
Yeah i would like to have an answer for this too, as i have Touch Diamond now and the quality of the speaker is very, very poor.. This was only only thing which made me think should i buy desire or not, if the speaker is not good in desire either, i will wait till next year or buy nokia or something worse..
Hate to be the bearer of bad news guys but the speaker on the desire is crap! Real shame for such a high end phone.
I second that!....awful .....but still a great phone!
Just took a phonecall from the missy over the loudspeaker. Could barely understand her. Its not that good.
I feel that in a phonecall the earpiece is fine but if you are using it handsfree or playing music it's pretty gash.
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If you don't use full volume it's allright. But at some point it's not that good anymore.
I don't care. I never use the speaker, and when the phone rings it's more than loud enough. If I want good sound quality, I will never use a phone speaker.. ever..
Very disappointed that HTC couldn't manage to get a decent speaker (unlike the iPhone). It's not a show stopper for me but it's still not good for an otherwise high-spec phone.
The sound quality (via speaker) is quite frankly atrocious, whether it's for calls or music. I'm keeping my 3GS to use as an iPod.
What bets that speaker fidelity will be one of the features apple have focused on for the new iPhone, given their iTunes market.
Absolutely love my Desire (proud owner for about 10 hours). HArdware and software very impressive. Yet to find out about the battery life.
aww man, this is disappointing, I would expect HTC could have at least improve their speakers... I have notice that most of their phones really have crap speakers, what gives!!! even my old nokia phone beats any of their lines hands down..
The speaker is half decent, battery life - crap. Other things make up for it, though.
Scholesville said:
aww man, this is disappointing, I would expect HTC could have at least improve their speakers... I have notice that most of their phones really have crap speakers, what gives!!! even my old nokia phone beats any of their lines hands down..
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I'm guessing the fact they are squeezing so much processing power and screen into the thing, and the battery to power it. Speaker space wasn't such a premium a few years back.
Coming from a Touch HD, the speaker is 10x better. I have had no problems hearing alerts in noisy environments. Music sounds pretty good for being a single tiny speaker. I think it's as good as iPhone speakers.
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I'm guessing the fact they are squeezing so much processing power and screen into the thing, and the battery to power it. Speaker space wasn't such a premium a few years back.
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Nope.
iPhone sounds like a boombox compared to the Desire.
And it's only through a 4 mm hole.
I've compared the Desire speaker to my Samsung Omnia HD: the Desire clearly lacks bass. Although the Omnia HD speakers sound muffled in comparison.
I guess there's no perfect speaker on cell phones.
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Coming from a Touch HD, the speaker is 10x better. I have had no problems hearing alerts in noisy environments. Music sounds pretty good for being a single tiny speaker. I think it's as good as iPhone speakers.
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There is no way that HTC Desire speaker match the speaker on iPhone 3GS.
I have both and it’s pretty obvious that the speaker in iPhone 3GS is much better than Desire's.
Anyway, for me, that’s the only thing that iPhone 3GS is better than Desire.
It's got a headphone jack, I'm quite happy to plug my little portable Sony speakers into that. I just cycled home from work and had forgot my headphones.. so had my favourite dancehall reggae mix playing through the loudspeaker in my pocket, it sounded fine, even full blast. Agreed nothing to write home about but it aint bad.
Will post again when I can test it for handsfree.
sounds like the trebble is too high and the base is too low, thats if there is anything in there that does base lol
testing with sound on computer, when you set the equalizer to full treble, it sounds like something close to what comes out of the desire, if there was a way to play around with the equalizer settings the quality may be improved?
So, there is nothing wrong specifically with my handset? I was thinking about returning it.
When I hear calls using phone's default speaker, the sound comes okay till one volume level. If I move up, the sound distorts.
If I use speaker-phone, things are worse. After a certain level, sound crackles a lot.
For music via phone's loud speaker, the sound doesn't crackle. But as identified by many, I can hear music with no bass & lots of treble.
Is this normal for Desire?
Comparing it with my wife's N95 (which has stereo speakers) was a nightmare for me.
I go to quite a few concerts and get a lot of really great videos only to check later and realize that the audio is completely distorted. This is true whether I'm at an acoustic show or and DJ Set with heavy bass. Is this just a flaw of the E4GT (and most smart phones) when recording videos that have really loud audio? Is this specific to the E4GT or do I just have a broken mic? It records just fine in non concert situations so I don't think I have an issue with the mic.
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If the audio source is too loud, it distorts.
I don't think the phone has a functioning agc for the camcorder. Automatic gain control. My canon point and shoot does within reason. Concerts? That's pretty darn loud!
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If the audio source is too loud, it distorts.
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This. Concerts can be VERY loud, way too loud for a crappy cell phone mic. There's nothing wrong with your phone. Even the acoustic show can be too loud, depending on how loud the PA is, and even if it isn't too loud, there still could be way too much background (ie. audience) noise for it to get a decent recording of the music.
My OG Epic did a fine job at concerts...heck even my old Touch Pro 2 did OK. The problem here is the lack of noise cancellation, and gain.
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So its just a hardware issue. The mic can't handle really loud audio. Are there any software fixes or tricks to try and get better audio or is this just an issue that will get better as phones advance and use higher quality hardware for the audio recording?
You can try LG camera it's free in the play store, it has settings for higher audio quality.
I think if we had some kind of volume control for the Mic it would work
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It's true. I'm on my 3rd E4GT, and all of them distort audio horribly when recording video or sounds. I haven't found a workaround. There is an app in the Play Store that can adjust input gain on the mic, but it won't work unless the kernel supports mic gain. The app is called HD2 Mic Control. When I open the app, it says my kernel needs something called
/proc/mic_level.
This is a terribly frustrating thing about our handset. The video recording is gorgeous, but the mic can't handle an acoustic performance from ten feet in front of the stage. Grrr!
Bump. Help!
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EDIT:
I just found this thread for the HTC Leo:HD2. Apparently someone put out a Sense kernel with proc/mic_level support for microphone input level control. The thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2117084
I am clueless about development, but maybe one of our kind kernel devs would see if this could be incorporated into one of our kernels, so we can finally drop input gain and get some decent audio recordings with our phones? That would really help to make 2014 a much better sounding year. Just putting it out there.
Happy New Year, my XDA friends! All the best to you and yours! Cheers!
Hi there,
Has anyone tried the Oneplus 3 with a bluetooth headset? How is the audio quality? I haven't used bluetooth in a very long time and my last experience was one of very poor quality.
Because I travel frequently I'm thinking about getting the Bose quietcontrol 30 when it launches next month but before spending almost as much on headphones as I did on the phone I'd like to know if sound quality is good.
I'm no audiophile, my music is mostly 320kbps and I think my 20 euro sennheiser earplugs produce decent enough sound quality. Obviously I'm using them mostly outside and on the road so with all the environment noise sound quality is going to suffer anyway.
As far as I could find the Oneplus 3 doesn't support Aptx so I think we are stuck with A2DP? That seems to max out a little above 320kpbs.
Bluetooth is pretty good. Better reception than my HTC 10. While in my pocket the HTC 10 tends to stutter from signal issues just from walking. Nexus 5x also had this problem as well. Opo3 does not have this problem.
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Bluetooth is pretty good. Better reception than my HTC 10. While in my pocket the HTC 10 tends to stutter from signal issues just from walking. Nexus 5x also had this problem as well. Opo3 does not have this problem.
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Thanks.
How is the sound quality? Same as the 3.5mm jack?
3.5mm is better quality but that's probably because when I use it it's with my vmoda m100. In terms of sound quality compared to HTC 10 and s7 edge it's the same quality but HTC is extremely loud. It's controlled by snapdragon 820 so it's the same across all devices. Haven't had any noticeable audio problems.
Thanks George.
So bluetooth audio sounds fine just not as great as what you might get with a good wired headphone. That should be good enough for me. Just wanted to make sure it's not like a pair of 20 euro wired headphones will get you better audio quality because the bluetooth audio quality is crappy.