So I have metro pcs service I took my evo to them and they couldnt get it working after a day. I have my evo flashed with metro droid and I followed the mms and data provisioning. When I call out with my evo all I get is it trying to connect to verizon. Nothing works at all with it. The metropcs dude gave me my MDN and MIN and SPC numbers. What do I gotta do to get it to work?
Your area uses AWS, Which is NOT CDMA Since it's quad-band, I think CDMA is only dual-band. I have the same issue with mine.
So what does that mean? My area is 89015.
I just need to add my ESN to their network now.
Eric-1987 said:
So what does that mean? My area is 89015.
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Okay, I'll try to explain as simply as possible. Sprint and Verizon's networks operate on the 1900MHz PCS band (so their phones are made with 1900MHz compatibility built in).
About half of MetroPCS' network also operates on the 1900MHz PCS band, BUT, (this the important part) the other half of their network operates only in the 1700MHz AWS band.
MetroPCS builds their phones with that in mind, so that their phones will operate on both the 1900MHz PCS band and the 1700MHz AWS band. However, Sprint and Verizon don't build their phone with AWS compatibility because they don't have to. They don't operate on AWS.
So if you live in an area where MetroPCS' network is 1900MHz PCS, any Sprint or Verizon phone will work. If you live in an area where MetroPCS' network is 1700MHz AWS, then the only phones that will work at MetroPCS' own phones.
Hope that clears it up for you.
EDIT: By the way, I checked your zip code and you are indeed in an AWS 1700MHz area... not 1900MHz PCS so your EVO will not work on MetroPCS. Sorry.
Where did you find out my area type?
bump I need to know if thats 100% true.
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I'm new here and I enjoyed this site very much. I have one problem with my TP2. Somehow, 3G network is not working after I installed Hard-SPL and unlocked T-Mobile TP2 switch to AT&T sim card. Everything is working fine with AT&T's sim card I was able to made phone calls, received, SMS, and web browsing. ATT 's 3G network is available around my home, but I can not get 3G on TP2 instead a EDGE network. Can unlocked TP2 handle AT&T's 3G network? or a .cab file I can download to fix this?
idk for sure but i think t mobile uses a different frequency for 3g from at&t so if they are you are stuck with edge speeds on at&t man sorry
I have the tmobile TP2 and i can confirm from talking with ATT that the phone does support ATT BUT i was unable to use the phone on 3g. The phone DOES support the signals for 3g but am still unable to access the towers in my area. I think the phone may be hard set to look at tmobile towers, is there any way i could reset the device to open up its tower usage? Hopefully i can get an answer but no tmobile TP2 users arent screwed in the US we just need to find a fix
It was my understanding that the tmobile tp2 does NOT have 850/1900mhz 3g on it. It does have aws 1700 for sure. Not sure about 2100mhz though for overseas.
This issue has been covered many times in the numerous AT&T threads on this board.
I'm sorry to tell you that the T-Mobile TP2 hardware radio was limited to using 3G over the 1700/900Hz frequencies, while AT&T currently uses 1900/850Hz only. It's unlikely that any change can be made to the radio software wise to fix this issue.
Just to make things clear the issue has nothing to do with Hard SPL or custom roms.
T-Mobile UMTS 1700/2100 Mhz
T-Mobile 3G runs on UMTS 1700 up and 2100 down. Unless you have a device that runs on those specific frequencies, EDGE is the best you can do with T-Mobile if you opt to run on their service.
ATT offers UMTS or 3G using 850mhz(the old TDMA band) and 1900mhz. While T-mobile offers HSDPA (technically 3.5g part of the UMTS specification) using 1700MHz for uplink and 2100MHz downlink.
Because HSDPA is part of the UMTS spec, it’s backward compatable. However, you have the limiting factor beging that the frequencies the individual carriers use to transmit the data.
Europe and Asia’s 3G runs on 1900/2100mhz. North and south America is supposed to use the (AWS) 3G spec using 1700/2100mhz
ATT didn’t want to wait, like T-mobile is doing, for homeland security to vacate those frequencies and launched on 850/1900mhz instead
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ATT didn’t want to wait, like T-mobile is doing, for homeland security to vacate those frequencies and launched on 850/1900mhz instead
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I heard that t-mobile did not have enough spectrum in many areas to launch 3g in its existing 1900mhz. At&t doesn't have that issue, or as bad.
Im gonna make this real easy for u. The tmobile tp2 will not work on at&t 3g. The 3g bands are different
[Q] Using T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2 on AT&T's LTE (Will It Work if I do the Following?)
Can't you flash an AT&T firmware on a T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 2 handset to get the necessary AT&T LTE Frequencies since the LTE radios on both AT&T's and T-Mobile's Note 2's are the exact same? Or is unlocking the Note 2 via T-Mobile more than enough to take advantage of AT&T's LTE Network?
Tread carefully, I'm currently trying to get my phone out of a rather nasty bootloop/corrupt IMEI situation after trying just that earlier today.
But I did get it to work, even pulled 35 Mbps on a speedtest.
Things went to hell after trying to revert back to the T889V modem. (In case I needed the AWS HSPA, for proof of concept and also warranty purposes).
so our phone's LTE modem is compatible with AT&T LTE bands? sweet.
^^^ Did an LTE status show up when you ran the Speedtest; this was with an AT&T Sim, right? ?
^^^ Did an LTE status show up when you ran the Speedtest; this was with an AT&T Sim, right? ?
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Tread carefully, I'm currently trying to get my phone out of a rather nasty bootloop/corrupt IMEI situation after trying just that earlier today.
But I did get it to work, even pulled 35 Mbps on a speedtest.
Things went to hell after trying to revert back to the T889V modem. (In case I needed the AWS HSPA, for proof of concept and also warranty purposes).
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Virgin Mobile Canada LTE SIM (previously confirmed working in an Galaxy S III), and yes the LTE icon showed up immediately, Speedtest says LTE too, and the speeds are way beyond what I had with HSPA in the same location.
Doesn't AT&T's LTE run on different frequencies; so will T-Mobile's Note 2 match with AT&T LTE Frequencies after flashing to AT&T's Firmware?
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Virgin Mobile Canada LTE SIM (previously confirmed working in an Galaxy S III), and yes the LTE icon showed up immediately, Speedtest says LTE too, and the speeds are way beyond what I had with HSPA in the same location.
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Doesn't AT&T's LTE run on different frequencies; so will T-Mobile's Note 2 match with AT&T LTE Frequencies after flashing to AT&T's Firmware?
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Tmobile's T889 supports LTE on AWS and 700 (band 17).
AT&T's i317 supports LTE on AWS, 700 (band 17) and also on 850 and 1900 (band 2).
So yes, our phone has the ability to work on SOME of AT&T's LTE network, but not all of it; it will just depend on which frequencies they're using in your area. I believe AWS and 700 are new for AT&T, so they're probably fewer and more between at the moment, whereas their current network is mostly 1900 and 850. Not sure what kind of upgrade they have to do to switch their old HSPA 1900 towers to LTE support.
Silly question, so is a tmobile note 2 capable of handling AT&T's LTE network on the 850 and 1900 bands; is this something controlled by software, or a hardware limitation, I thought the Qualcomm radios on the AT&T variant and tmobile variant were the same.
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Tmobile's T889 supports LTE on AWS and 700 (band 17).
AT&T's i317 supports LTE on AWS, 700 (band 17) and also on 850 and 1900 (band 2).
So yes, our phone has the ability to work on SOME of AT&T's LTE network, but not all of it; it will just depend on which frequencies they're using in your area. I believe AWS and 700 are new for AT&T, so they're probably fewer and more between at the moment, whereas their current network is mostly 1900 and 850. Not sure what kind of upgrade they have to do to switch their old HSPA 1900 towers to LTE support.
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What's up guys. Really thinking of pulling the trigger on the N5100 from eBay or negrielectronics.
But, my question is how well will my data/voice coverage be on T-mobile? I know the phablet uses the 1900Mhz spectrum.
I also know T-Mobile has some 1900Mhz spectrum but I've been wondering about My hometown of ATL, GA.
Anybody here in the ATL metro area? How's your coverage? I'd hate to drop $500+ for a device I can't really use.
I cant remember where I read it but I think that data will only be edge. I hope somebody corrects me if Im wrong but I might wanna wait and see what the new LTE model has in store.
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What's up guys. Really thinking of pulling the trigger on the N5100 from eBay or negrielectronics.
But, my question is how well will my data/voice coverage be on T-mobile? I know the phablet uses the 1900Mhz spectrum.
I also know T-Mobile has some 1900Mhz spectrum but I've been wondering about My hometown of ATL, GA.
Anybody here in the ATL metro area? How's your coverage? I'd hate to drop $500+ for a device I can't really use.
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You will likely be restricted to 2G(edge) only. The N5100 supports the 1900mhz frequency, but not the 1700mhz. Support for both are required for 3G/HSPA+ service on T-Mobile.
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You will likely be restricted to 2G(edge) only. The N5100 supports the 1900mhz frequency, but not the 1700mhz. Support for both are required for 3G/HSPA+ service on T-Mobile.
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Thanks for the verification! Haha I remember that guy in yur sig from the HTC One forums. Craziness!
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You will likely be restricted to 2G(edge) only. The N5100 supports the 1900mhz frequency, but not the 1700mhz. Support for both are required for 3G/HSPA+ service on T-Mobile.
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Not exactly true! TMo US has historically used the split 1700/2100 AWS band for 3G, meaning a device needs to support both bands for 3G access. However, since TMo got hold of some spectrum at 1900MHz from AT&T, they've been re farming to provision 3G over that band.
What this means is if you have a device that supports 1900MHz *and* you are in an area where TMo has re farmed the spectrum, you should get 3G.
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foxmeister said:
Not exactly true! TMo US has historically used the split 1700/2100 AWS band for 3G, meaning a device needs to support both bands for 3G access. However, since TMo got hold of some spectrum at 1900MHz from AT&T, they've been re farming to provision 3G over that band.
What this means is if you have a device that supports 1900MHz *and* you are in an area where TMo has re farmed the spectrum, you should get 3G.
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Dave
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Sort of. It's not so much that TMobile got a hold of the spectrum from AT&T as much as they've always had it, but it was only used for GSM(aka EDGE aka 2G) service. Yes, they quite a bit from that failed merger which had sped their plans along quite nicely. You're right that the y're refarming/repurposing that frequency for use on their faster data networks but... correct me if I'm wrong, my understanding is that the refarming is being done to support LTE? As the 5110 lacks an LTE antennae, it won't be able to make use of it.
OP, to find out if you're in an area where this refarming is being done check out this website.
Sorry if this is old news, I searched the forums and couldn't find a thread where this was explained.
Until recently, it wasn't possible to use HSPA+ with the Glide on T-Mobile, because T-Mo used to use different frequencies (1700/2100) than AT&T (850/1900) for it's HSPA+ service.
However, T-Mobile is migrating its HSPA+ network over to the 1900mhz band. So apparently that means that IF you are in an area where T-Mobile has already made the switch (and your phone is not carrier locked to AT&T), then you can use HSPA+ on T-Mobile.
One thing to note is- since the phone is only operating at 1900mhz and not 850mhz, the speed is cut in half (at least that is how I understand it).
So instead of getting 42Mbps you'll only be able to get 21Mbps (max). Still, it's way better than 2g. Source
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Sorry, am I missing something? The Captivate Glide specs show it as having UMTS 850/1900/2100, so shouldn't it work both with 1900 and 2100?
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Sorry, am I missing something? The Captivate Glide specs show it as having UMTS 850/1900/2100, so shouldn't it work both with 1900 and 2100?
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The way I understand it, the older T-Mo towers use both 1700mhz and 2100mhz for their HSPA+, using 1710-1755mhz for uploads and 2110-2155 for downloads. The radio's in the Glide are missing the 1700mhz band so it won't work in the areas where they haven't rolled out the switch to 1900 yet.
I am only going by what I have read on the net, so this may not be completely accurate.
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The way I understand it, the older T-Mo towers use both 1700mhz and 2100mhz for their HSPA+, using 1710-1755mhz for uploads and 2110-2155 for downloads. The radio's in the Glide are missing the 1700mhz band so it won't work in the areas where they haven't rolled out the switch to 1900 yet.
I am only going by what I have read on the net, so this may not be completely accurate.
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Got it, thanks!
I have Cricket Wireless and I can only seem to get Edge speeds on my m7vzw.
What's weird is I have previously put a different Cricket SIM in the phone before the device was switched from Verizon to Cricket and I got H+.
The band frequency charts would suggest that I should get at least H+.
I'm using the ROM below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531235
I tried the Google Edition radio, just left me with no signal.
After that didn't get me anywhere I flashed m7vzw_5.28.605.2_1.13.41.0702_Radio, which gave me back the weak Edge signal again.
LTE/H+ was working fine before I ported from Verizon.
I don't know what Firmware the device is on, or how to check.
Any thoughts?
I do not know how you got H+ before, maybe it was a Cricket SIM before AT&T took over and was a Sprint one? That wouldn't make sense though as Sprint doesn't use SIM cards. Below is the official specs for the Verizon one. AT&T only supports 850/1900 H+ which our phone does not support. I do not know why you are getting bad edge reception though.
Verizon: 800/1900MHZ, UMTS/HSPA 900/2100MHz,GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz, LTE 700MHz (Band 13)
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-m7/
"We currently use frequencies in the 1900 MHz and 850 MHz ranges, although we have licenses to operate in other ranges."
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
AT&T bought out Leap Wireless (Cricket) a few years ago, so that is whose towers you are connecting through.
My only thought is maybe you live in a refarmed T-Mobile area and the phone roamed you to H+?
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I do not know how you got H+ before, maybe it was a Cricket SIM before AT&T took over and was a Sprint one? That wouldn't make sense though as Sprint doesn't use SIM cards. Below is the official specs for the Verizon one. AT&T only supports 850/1900 H+ which our phone does not support. I do not know why you are getting bad edge reception though.
Verizon: 800/1900MHZ, UMTS/HSPA 900/2100MHz,GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz, LTE 700MHz (Band 13)
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-m7/
"We currently use frequencies in the 1900 MHz and 850 MHz ranges, although we have licenses to operate in other ranges."
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
AT&T bought out Leap Wireless (Cricket) a few years ago, so that is whose towers you are connecting through.
My only thought is maybe you live in a refarmed T-Mobile area and the phone roamed you to H+?
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It might of been 3G and not H+ to be honest. I just know it wasn't Edge. I do still have the same SIM I tested with before, and it also only produces Edge while in the HTC One. When I previously tested for service the phone was active with Verizon, but with a Cricket SIM for the test. I performed this test about 5-6 weeks ago.
Sounds like I did everything I could on my end though. I might have to explore other phone or carrier options.
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It might of been 3G and not H+ to be honest. I just know it wasn't Edge. I do still have the same SIM I tested with before, and it also only produces Edge while in the HTC One. When I previously tested for service the phone was active with Verizon, but with a Cricket SIM for the test. I performed this test about 5-6 weeks ago.
Sounds like I did everything I could on my end though. I might have to explore other phone or carrier options.
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I do know cricket is starting to drop support on Sprint towers and by March of this year their phones will not reach Sprint towers. You might have still had some towers that were Sprint in your area a few weeks ago that finally don't work on Cricket anymore and you got forced to AT&T. It would be the only logical situation.