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HTC Desire or the Samsung Galaxy S i9000

Hi Guys,
Don't know if I should be posting this here but I'm at a loss, I have in my possession the HTC Desire and the Samsung i9000 both brand new, and I want to keep one and sell the other.
PROBLEM IS I have no clue which to keep and which to sell. Both have their pro's and con's yet I need to make a decisions and...FAST lol as I need the money!
What do you guys reckon? Any help would be needed!
Thanks!
Rolphez

I probably go for the desire as I dont like the iphone lookalike of the samsung galaxy.
And if you need the money you'll probably get more for the samsung as its just released in Australia.

The GPS on the Desire is amazing... where as on the Galaxy S, all I've heard is reports of how bad and useless it is... that made my mind up when I almost bought one

Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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rolphez said:
Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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You can always root the samsung and remove the crap
Or just use a different launcher...

In videos I saw, Samsung Galaxy's CPU was performing noticeabley better, especially in 3D apps.

The Samsung should have aproximately 3x the 3D performance that the N1 and the Desire has.
Due to the 3D chip they're using.

hard choice indeed, i imagine the galaxy camera is also better, maybe if you remove all the bloatware from the galaxy it will be more responsive
it's also better outdoors?
i think galaxy, but it all depends on your needs, init!
btw i luvs me desire

well, galaxy s got super amoled and better gpu...everything else is same or better on desire. lame UI on samsung and i rly dont believe in samsung updates, after seeing what happened to i7500... imho desire

I have almost the same predicament.
I currently have a HD2 and I was so dissapointed that software wise, it was at the end of it's life. I thought that was a stupid faux-pas on the part of HTC and feel incredibly let down, as a lot of HD2 owners do. It looks like Android isn't ever going to be a viable option on it, and if it were, it would probably be a half-working shell.
So, thanks to O2 Ireland changing pricing in my contract, I was able to get out of my 18 month contract by 16 months on it so I bought a desire. The first thing I noticed, was that sense was nowhere near as polished as on the HD2, but I can live with that.
To cut a long stgory short, the network I was sold the phone on was utterly useless for data (Meteor) so i cancelled that contract, and tried to get the desire on voda. There were none in the shop, but the salesman in carephone warehouse in Ennis, kindly offered to sell me a samsung s i9000 on the proviso, that if if didn't like it, I could take it back and get a desire (as long as I made or received no calls/texts) so I stuck a disabled voda sim in and use it via wifi.
I instantly hated the Galaxy s because of 2 things. The blatent Iphone look, and the cheap plastic build quality of it. I can see that chrome outer edge looking worn in no time at all. Build wise, this is the worst phone i've come across. The battery cover is so thin and flimsy, and it's polished plastic so just inviting scratches and finger marks.
Anyway, 1st impressions aside, The User interface was just awful, But I have to say, that now i've installed launcherpro, and fancy widget I am really enjoying the phone.
I have a few days to choose which one to finally end up with (the Desire, or the Galaxy) and at this point I am torn.
I think what worries me most with the Galaxy, is updates. There will be an update to android 2.2 sometime in the far future, but I've heard others say thats the end of the official road. That in itself doesn't bother me, as long as newer versions of droid can be put on it. I think thats where most peoples concerns with this phone are. The desire has a company behind it with a better (but not always in the case of the HD2 and a few others) track record of updates, and there is a much larger community of cooks and enthusiasts for the desire.
The info out there at the moment on the Galaxy is sketchy. I've read people talking about how any cooked rom is only made from an official rom. Does that mean that when droid 3 comes out, that this phone is left behind? Does the same stand for the Desire?
Sorry for the long post.
Dave
PS. I just remembered my other MAJOR grievance with the Galaxy s. You have to use Samsungs proprietary software to access the phone via your computer. On the Desire, I just plugged it in, and could instantly see the sdcard. Not tried it with linux, but I suspect the galaxy won't be seen. Think I just made my mind up... Or maybe not.. Aargh

Thank you all for the replies, and I don't mind the long replies Dave, it's always best to hear such experiences as it helps me make a decision.
Here are my Pro's and Con's of both devices:
Starting with the Cosmetics:
1. The Build Quality of the Desire is by Far better than the I9000 - the i9000 feels like a toy rather than a phone.
2. The Desire looks much better than the Samsung i9000 - The whole reason I moved to Android is to forget the much hated (hatred is a personal opinion) iPhone look I don't want to be reminded by it again!
3. The Samsung i9000 is lighter than the Desire and although I actually didn't mind the lighter weight, my hand preferred to feel something solid rather than a piece of plastic. (I have to admit the HTC legend is my preferred phone as far as solid design is concerned!)
4. Samsung has a bigger screen than the Desire, and it's definitely brighter or cripier with it's Super AMOLED but pixel count is the same, and the 3.7" is more than enough in the Desire.
Moving on to other stuff...
5. I played some nice 3D games on the Samsung and I must admit for those who are into gaming, it's brilliant, I don't really care about such games i'm more into word games and stuff which the Desire manages to perform just fine in running them.
6. Using Swype input on the Samsung is much better than the desire, although I did manage to install Swype on the Desire and it works fine, but Samsung is more responsive it was just a pleasure to type on it.
7. Samsung's rubbish crap software on it is annoying and I seriously can't be bother rooting and installing custom Roms on it, I'd rather do it on the Desire - simpler and have a bigger variety of ROMS and updates...
8. I think I just convinced myself - Desire it is! LOL But i'll continue a little, GPS works much better on the Desire...
9. HTC is a much better mobile phone company for android systems (my opinion anyway)
10. Sound is better on Samsung than on Desire.
11. Samsung gives you 2GB space to install your apps on Desire gives you on 512MB but I believe this hurdle can be easily passed through A2SD.
12. Samsung comes with 16 GB Storage...which, though it's a good thing, yet you can buy a 16 GB micro SD for the Desire...Problem solved
Yea, the list can continue, but these are my thoughts...it is a hard decision to make...but i think weighing the pro's and con's...Desire beats the Samsung despite it being inferior with some of the hardware specs, I'm sure HTC will release something soon to match or surpass Samsung...

btw, just a lil question...how better is sound on galaxy s? i got desire, but i got no samsung to compare them
just curious, since im mainly using phone(other than phoning ^^) as mp3 player

For me, The perfect Android phone would be the HD2. I am appaled they wasted such a superb device on a dead OS. To double the insult, they will not offer a WM7 update path (I realise that's down to M$ but thats no damned excuse to someone who bought it thinking it would be future proof for a year or 2)
I love the size of the HD2's screen (but hate the touch input, it's very poor), thats why I was drawn to the Galaxy S. The screen is simply superb. Even using the stock droid keypad, the experience is much better than the HD2 and Desire combined. It is a pleasure to use the keypad, and swype performs really well. The desire by comparison is dull and boring. The colours don't jump out at you, and it's impossible to use in daylight.
I read all your pro's and con's and can only agree with you (apart from the sound, as I haven't compared them. I don't bother with mp3's etc.)
I think I am definately leaning more towards the Desire at this point. Technically it isn't as good. The screen is poor when compared against the Galaxy S. The buttons are clunky and unintuitive (The touch sensitive buttons on the Galaxy S are it's best feature IMHO), and the power button positioning is a pain in the the you know what! But it is likely to be much better supported by the community, and the company and thats important to me, as I fully intend to get back into developing again. The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
I'm going to investigate the rom cooking side of the Galaxy S now to to finally make my mind up. I saw a thread asking for £9.95 to access an online kitchen, but I thought that was against the principals of the community. Can't stand people trying to make money out of other peoples knowledge. If thats the kind of thing to expect from the average Galaxy S developer, then HTC it is

I decided on the Desire as it was voted and chosen by multiple sites best mobile phone of last year. Also got an HD2 just because it looked fantastic and will probably be the last wm6.5 phone - lots of apps I like still not on Android.
It's simply a fantastic phone with great community support. Owning it 2 weeks I've already rooted it, got apps2sd+, froyo (defrost), now froyo with sense (djdroid)...
I loved the HD2 when it worked, it went back to HTC for a no quibbles change of motherboard as it was constantly rebooting. My experience with Samsung customer service and support has not been great I must say (have an Omnia). Battery was never satisfactory, gps fix terrible, TomTom was not working first 6 months as Samsung's gps implementation was plain bad...
A friend got the Samsung, waiting him to break it so I can say 'told you so'...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I decided on the Desire too. The GPS on the Galaxy was unuseable. It's a great device, but I think i'm going to get much more mileage out of the desire. So took it back today, and got a shiny new desire.

dave wroe said:
...The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
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Not to mention, 32GB MicroSD's soon to be coming down in price! And performance wise, I doubt you will be able to notice a difference on a decent class.
Think you chose the better deal with the Desire, just for the overall quality it gives you, even in its relatively small stature... I wanted the Evo, it's not in the UK, the Desire is a perfect stepping stone till we get 4G, although a stepping stone as is any phone.

I think Desire it is for now, until HTC release a new better device...until then I don't think the Samung i9000 is worth it (even with all it's pro's)...I have a brand new one with me for sale...anyone interested?!

Unless you really use the 3D chip from the Galaxy S I would go for the Desire. Samsung's phone quality is rubbish, the Galaxy is no exception.
As said the GPS is very poor, while the Desire's is very good. The processor itself isn't much better than the Desire's. And if you get even one update on the Galaxy you should be happy.
The SUPER AMOLED is a bit nicer but that's mainly because the Desire has a relatively cheap AMOLED screen. It won't help you much in direct sunlight although they claim it will.
The resolution is the same and personally I think 3,7" is a better phone size than 4".

I agree with you on that one...

One thing struck me from using the Galaxy S is the screen quality and touch responsiveness compared to the desire. The Galaxy S pisses over the desire in this department. Add the better Camera and camcorder and I was actually thinking of moving from the desire to the Galaxy. I use the phone for a lot for navigation duties so to hear that the GPS is lacking is a real shame. Is it a hardware problem or something that can be fixed by an update that it will probably not receive by the sounds of things?

HTC Desire or the Sammy Galaxy S Captivate?

Rogers said they are getting the captivate soon, and Telus announced that they are releasing the Desire tomorrow ($449 no contract)
Im debating on which i should get. I've wanted the HTC desire for ages, but i heard the captivate has a better processor?
Any ideas?

zoltrix said:
Rogers said they are getting the captivate soon, and Telus announced that they are releasing the Desire tomorrow ($449 no contract)
Im debating on which i should get. I've wanted the HTC desire for ages, but i heard the captivate has a better processor?
Any ideas?
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no it dosent have a better cpu, imo snapdragon is better than hummingbird, but the hummingbird chipset does have a better gpu no doubt about it (if that means alot to you) personally tho as far as 3d graphics go the desire can do enough, if i wanted to play anything better id play my xbox lol

i read that Hummingbird is less power consuming compared to the Snapdragon

looks like im waiting for the captivate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7554619&postcount=12

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...3#post13952973
He bought it outright, is on rogers, and paid hte regular 449

zoltrix said:
Rogers said they are getting the captivate soon, and Telus announced that they are releasing the Desire tomorrow ($449 no contract)
Im debating on which i should get. I've wanted the HTC desire for ages, but i heard the captivate has a better processor?
Any ideas?
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I have the Galaxy S (Captivate) and it has an outstanding screen, really amazing. Excellent audio quality too. In theory the CPU/GPU combo is better but some design decisions by samsung and slow IO mean that you might still get lag sometimes.
It is a fine unit but I am returning mine this week and will probably get the Desire instead... simply because the GPS on the Samsung is totally useless.. if you need navigation it is a useless phone.

I've played with the Galaxy S and I HATED TouchWiz. If you root it and put a decent ROM on there it might be okay but I do love my Desire <3

Beowulf_pt said:
I have the Galaxy S (Captivate) and it has an outstanding screen, really amazing. Excellent audio quality too. In theory the CPU/GPU combo is better but some design decisions by samsung and slow IO mean that you might still get lag sometimes.
It is a fine unit but I am returning mine this week and will probably get the Desire instead... simply because the GPS on the Samsung is totally useless.. if you need navigation it is a useless phone.
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Thanks for your input. But besides GPS, what else made you want to return the phone? Is it worth the switch over to the captivate for teh better cpu/gpu or is the desire just a better pacakge all togetehr?
steve228uk said:
I've played with the Galaxy S and I HATED TouchWiz. If you root it and put a decent ROM on there it might be okay but I do love my Desire <3
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yea thats what im thinking. If i had to keep touchwiz, there would be no chance in hell i would keep that phone

zoltrix said:
Thanks for your input. But besides GPS, what else made you want to return the phone? Is it worth the switch over to the captivate for teh better cpu/gpu or is the desire just a better pacakge all togetehr?
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yea thats what im thinking. If i had to keep touchwiz, there would be no chance in hell i would keep that phone
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Take my comments with caution as I have the SGS (will return it this week but still keeping it for a few days) but have not owned the Desire.
I think the Samsung is superior in general. The screen is just amazing and the CPU/GPU combo has a lot of potential for the future (no doubt better at games and perhaps some interface tricks). Audio is also outstanding (3.5mm jack with audiophile headphones).
My reason to return it was exclusively the poor GPS performance. And I mean poor to the point of not having GPS. It is just useless. It also has the lag issue but that probably present in the Desire too, to a smaller degree.
I'd say, if you don't need GPS, go for the Samsung as it has several advantages (nicer screen, GPU/CPU, lots of internal memory, great audio, BT3, great 720p video recording).
If you need a reliable navigation device, the Desire is a much better option. Plus it has its own little advantages like having a LED flash (the Samsung takes lousy photos at low light) and notification led.
I don't think TouchWiz 3.0 is that bad. I actually like it when it comes to look and usability (not sure about performance). My experience with Sense is a bit limited tho (only know it by playing with co-workers HTCs and from video reviews). Overall Sense might be better indeed, but that alone would not make me skip the Samsung.
When I return my Samsung I still have to decide if I'll get the Desire right away or just wait a bit more for the Desire HD (hope it can record video better than the current Desire).
Sad thing is that the right gadget does not exist. For me it would be a combination between the Samsung and the Desire, mixing features of both.

Beowulf_pt said:
Take my comments with caution as I have the SGS (will return it this week but still keeping it for a few days) but have not owned the Desire.
I think the Samsung is superior in general. The screen is just amazing and the CPU/GPU combo has a lot of potential for the future (no doubt better at games and perhaps some interface tricks). Audio is also outstanding (3.5mm jack with audiophile headphones).
My reason to return it was exclusively the poor GPS performance. And I mean poor to the point of not having GPS. It is just useless. It also has the lag issue but that probably present in the Desire too, to a smaller degree.
I'd say, if you don't need GPS, go for the Samsung as it has several advantages (nicer screen, GPU/CPU, lots of internal memory, great audio, BT3, great 720p video recording).
If you need a reliable navigation device, the Desire is a much better option. Plus it has its own little advantages like having a LED flash (the Samsung takes lousy photos at low light) and notification led.
I don't think TouchWiz 3.0 is that bad. I actually like it when it comes to look and usability (not sure about performance). My experience with Sense is a bit limited tho (only know it by playing with co-workers HTCs and from video reviews). Overall Sense might be better indeed, but that alone would not make me skip the Samsung.
When I return my Samsung I still have to decide if I'll get the Desire right away or just wait a bit more for the Desire HD (hope it can record video better than the current Desire).
Sad thing is that the right gadget does not exist. For me it would be a combination between the Samsung and the Desire, mixing features of both.
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alright cool thanks. ill wait for your response!

[Q] desire hd vs hd2

I have never gone android and from the specs it is going to be a great phone. Dear members will I be disappointed if I get rid of my leo and go for it? What is the main differences between windows pc and android ? Or would you rather I wait for windows 7 I am used to. But I am greatly interested!

Not much of an answer, but I'm definitely looking at replacing my HD2/Leo with a Desire HD. It really is the phone I've been waiting for HTC to come out with.

For me its Android over anything,
The main difference is that android if very customizable and all open source, you wont be disappointed if you ditch your Leo for this phone, specs wise its amazing and now that is running new HTC sence UI. I think that you will be very happy with Android.
Any other question, feel free to PM me or anything.

I think I will be replacing my HD2 with this. Been running Android on my HD2 for a few days, and I love it. Given that the Desire HD is the same size, and better hardware than the HD2, I think it's a winner!

I as well have The HD2 with the android running and also helped 2 other peple get their HD2's setup with android. I love it over windows. The windows pretty customizable to a certain point and I do like it too but like is not the word for the android stuff. I had the G1 and it took a cyanogen beating and kept on ticking. And then I went to the HD2 and as soon as I saw roms for it Ii went to town on it but I slammed on the brakes with the froyo rom from Darkstone and Its whats running right now. So to say Im looking forward to this Desire Phone is an understatement. Im real excited WOO!

Load up Android on your HD2 and take it for a test drive. They have a bunch of choices in the HD2 forum so you can get a feel for it to see if you like it.

If wealthy, buy Desire HD.
If not so well off, try Android on HD2, if it you like it and want to pay for extra hardware on Desire HD you can wait until no longer brand new tech, and price drops a little.
If not cash rich, wait for Desire HD rom to be ported onto HD2 to replace WinMo.
All you lose is extra 3 megs on camera (not a big deal)
Extra internal memory (can do without)
Slightly faster cpu.
Movie playback quality?

The Desire HD is great but nothing special above the HD2..I mean sure it's primary Os is Android but that's all you get. The Hd2 runs Android,Wm and Ubuntu,if that's not cool enough then i dnt knw wat is. IMO the HD2 will most likely become the phone of legends, something that fathers tell their kids about wen their not busy admiring its sheer brilliance,the one that broke all the rules *And yes i'm aware of the D'HD specs,which r tempting but not worth sacrificing the Hd2*

This is just the beginning teaser for Android superphone HTC & GSM. I see the HD2, EVO & D'HD pretty much being the same phone, different shell and different OS. In that light the format is a year old.
To quote them, HTC was/is brilliantly and quietly deliberate in having the Android-GSM masses salivate from across fences they could not or would not cross. It's almost classic Apple (and believe me, I hate both Apple and admitting it).
When the HD2 released, and lets be honest, gimped with WinMo, there was a secret vault deep in the bowels of HTC with a killer phone that could pretty much end the consumer refresh cycle for 3+yrs.
Just look at the G1. One of the secret beauties of Android is that in the right circumstances, you can stretch a platform way beyond it's intended life. An Android HD2/GSM EVO would have been such a beast.
They didn't release it because it was technically not viable, lol. No. Because doing so would have been an early check mate.
Yes the competition would either have been scorched in such a scenario or, heaven forbid, cornered into a cold war where they might actually have delivered real value versus their stock and trade hype.
At the same time though, HTC would have cannibalized their entire line-up/sales inbetween. Plus there was the issue of giving an allowance for symbiosis between the hardware, the market and the Android platform to come to fruition.
Now we have the D'HD, why? Because the other OEM's, Gingerbread, dual cores and GPU's are on the horizon.
The next 3-9 months will be beautiful.
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I like the optimism and brand patriotism in that post. But unfortunately due to the amount of sheep who see the iPhone as the be-all and end-all of mobile technology, the platform if used to it's full potential still wouldn't have been able to take away a decent enough chunk of the iPhone sales.
The main reason is marketing. Apple have an army of marketing geniuses, with a bank balance to replace the ocean with. Coupled with the "elitist" angle that apple have, people have, do, and will continue to buy them because they don't know any better. If anyone saw the HTC Evo vs iPhone 4 video, you'll know what I mean - because it's the unfortunate truth.
When the HD2 came out, HTC were still relatively unheard of in the grand scheme of things. The Desire is what bought them into the open (at least in the UK anyway, despite a good marketing effort with the Hero).
The sad reality of it all, is that HTC could cram a 2GHz dual-core CPU, 3D screen, 2GB RAM, 64GB high-speed flash and a 720p display, all running on Honeycomb into a phone the size of an HD Mini, and people would still go for the Apple phone because it's Apple.
If the original iPhone was released today - I still reckon it would outsell most other smartphones in the public sector.
I still chuckle to myself when the iPhone came out without MMS, and then Apple did something revolutionary and put MMS into a software update, and the world was alight with joy and praise!
Yet I'd had MMS on my SonyEricsson T68i a clear 6 years prior!

I had HD2...i sold it 2 month ago waiting for something like Desire HD...Now I'm waiting with my dummy in a pocket
Numbers are numbers. DHD is better in CPU,GPU,ROM,RAM,Camera,Video. OS is relative...depends who likes what. I prefer Android against WM 6.5... But, i would be almost perfect if they put SLCD and Aderno 220 in him...then there would be nothing better...but word "better" is relative...

I still have my HD2 (and HD) and considered porting it to Android but in the end I opted to keep it running WM and popped for the Galaxy S.
The Galaxy S is a great phone with some beautiful features but I do miss my HTC branded phone.
At the time I considered the Desire but needed something slightly bigger and with more features and seeing as the Evo didn't come to the UK, as said instead I chose the Samsung.
Now the Desire HD is coming I've been looking close as to what it may give me over the Galaxy S.
Apart from it's slightly larger screen I can't find anything that will draw me away and that worries me.
As said, I miss HTC Hardware and Sense. The new line of Sense looks better but is it enough.........

I am currently using a HD2, and well, after 10 months of usage, WM6.5 is practically crap: Many essential softwares which are needed were not preinstalled; even messaging application was crap... Internet browser was as slow, most importantly no flash... Then here comes the Android running on SD card... But still sucks big time, although the developers really put a lot of effort in it, but the lag, freezes, and incomplete applications are all making me feel more and more disappointed... Until the 15th of September 2010, when HTC revealed both DHD and Desire Z, my hope was relighted... A proper Android OS on a 4.3" screen... This is what I needed for long... The first thing I did was to preorder it immediately without even hesitating... From here I believe many can see how much hope i gave up on HD2... The disappointment was utter... Well, now I am just counting down everyday to my DHD reaching me... 20 more days to go~

LittleMerc said:
I am currently using a HD2, and well, after 10 months of usage, WM6.5 is practically crap: Many essential softwares which are needed were not preinstalled; even messaging application was crap... Internet browser was as slow, most importantly no flash... Then here comes the Android running on SD card... But still sucks big time, although the developers really put a lot of effort in it, but the lag, freezes, and incomplete applications are all making me feel more and more disappointed... Until the 15th of September 2010, when HTC revealed both DHD and Desire Z, my hope was relighted... A proper Android OS on a 4.3" screen... This is what I needed for long... The first thing I did was to preorder it immediately without even hesitating... From here I believe many can see how much hope i gave up on HD2... The disappointment was utter... Well, now I am just counting down everyday to my DHD reaching me... 20 more days to go~
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i think the devices with dualcore that will be releasing in the next few monthes make me keep my hd2 for now , desire hd is not a big improvement to upgrade to it

Having neither the HD2 or the Desire HD and wanting a slice of the Android pie having whet my appetite with a Desire, what would you suggest?
I can get an HD2 for around £220 - £250 from eBay and run with Android courtesy of the devs, or I can fork out £470 on a native Android handset that does not seem to offer a great deal (for my use at least) over the HD2.
decisions, decisions ...

That's a toughy which only you can answer.....
Depends on how much you value some of the added benefits you can get with the dedicated Android.
I love my photography and although I have several cameras I still like to get the best out of whatever hardware is available.... That's one of the reasons I went for the Galaxy S over the Desire and now with the HD coming out.... well I'm still drawn to the Galaxy S.

Beards said:
That's a toughy which only you can answer.....
Depends on how much you value some of the added benefits you can get with the dedicated Android.
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Frankly I'm not sure what I would lose by going the HD2 route?
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I love my photography and although I have several cameras I still like to get the best out of whatever hardware is available....
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Likewise but having been spoiled by Nokia I have reached the conclusion that anyone who is serious about using their phone for halfway decent shots when on the go should steer well clear of HTC!
Trouble is, the competition might have the hardware but the operating system is very dated. I want the bells and whistles Android has to offer but the hardware is lacking on this platform.

Android ported to HD2 will never be so smooth and good as Andoid on his original device. There will always be some little bugs and lags...and you'll never experience a true Android experiance... Better choose regular Desire than HD2 with Android... HD2 is made for WM

xspyda said:
Likewise but having been spoiled by Nokia I have reached the conclusion that anyone who is serious about using their phone for halfway decent shots when on the go should steer well clear of HTC!
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Agreed... That was one of the main reasons why I went for the Galaxy S over the Desire. The GS takes and shoots simply outstanding shots & video.

Maybe its just me but if you really want good pictures.....invest in a camera: s
The camera isn't fantastic but its decent and that's good enough the other features make up for it imo.
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[Q] Desire, upgrading from Hero, worth upgrading?

Hi All,
I'm from Malaysia, here we pretty much dont have contracts, thus we are free to buy our own unlocked mobiles, albeit at retail prices.
Anyway, i've been using the hero for a year now, and am thinking of upgrading. I have narrowed it down to either a Desire, Nexus One or Samsung I9000 Galaxy.
Both the Desire and Galaxy are officially available here, but the Nexus One isn't (i'd have to go for grey imports - thus warranty becomes a problem). Leaving the nexus out, im left with the desire and galaxy, both have almost the same price, but i've been browsing the galaxy forum and it seems there are lags (with lag fixes)? Hardware wise, the galaxy is more powerful (but is it that noticeable?), but what i want is a mobile with very active and broad range of rom development, the desire wins in this case over the galaxy.
Will it be worth it and wise to get a desire now, since the desire HD is going to be released soon? I for one find the HD's screen too big for me. What i want is a phone that i would be able to use for at least a year+, and one that has active rom development (which is why i choose the hero a year back).
I've been looking at the spec sheet and the HD has only certain advantages over the Desire, namely better GPU (adreno 205 vs 200 on the desire), fab process (45nm vs 65nm for the desire) which should translate to lower power consumption but the behemoth of a display on the HD would consume more power, a better camera (8mp vs 5mp - with such small sensors, whats the difference anyways?), and slightly extra ram. Oh, and of course the screen size difference.
That being said, i'd like to know from you desire owners is it worth upgrading to a desire from a hero now? And also, whats the battery life on the stock desire?

Maybe the Desire Z is better for you?

I've recently upgraded from Hero to Desire and i can assure you it definetely worth the money. IMO Hero's hardware is insufficient to support its software, making the phone lagging most of the times. Desire's 1ghz processor + extra RAM makes the phone work fluently - almost as an iphone. Also desire has a much better camera and a much better screen in matters of brightness and resolution. Body design is also better, phone is thinner and construction sturdier. The battery life isn't as good as on the Hero (lasts 3-4 days vs 1-2 days on the Desire).

ste1164 said:
Maybe the Desire Z is better for you?
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Maybe i forgot to mention that i am not looking for a phone with physical qwerty keyboard. The reason behind this: It has a slider which has mechanical moving parts and is more prone to damage. I've had too many problems with flips/sliders right from the days of Motorola Startac, my last slider being a nokia n96, which flex cable gave away twice, so i kinda have a phobia towards anything but candybars .
I also want a 'best bang for buck' device, and both the desire/galaxy s are in that category. I could only imagine the retail price of the desire hd and z when they are launched here.
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I've recently upgraded from Hero to Desire and i can assure you it definetely worth the money. IMO Hero's hardware is insufficient to support its software, making the phone lagging most of the times. Desire's 1ghz processor + extra RAM makes the phone work fluently - almost as an iphone. Also desire has a much better camera and a much better screen in matters of brightness and resolution. Body design is also better, phone is thinner and construction sturdier. The battery life isn't as good as on the Hero (lasts 3-4 days vs 1-2 days on the Desire).
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Have you tried any of the roms which undervolts the proc? To be honest, the price of an iphone 4 isnt that too far away, just slightly higher than the desire here, but then again, i just cant explain why, but i cant see myself using an iphone ever. i practically hate it..

suresh13 said:
Have you tried any of the roms which undervolts the proc? To be honest, the price of an iphone 4 isnt that too far away, just slightly higher than the desire here, but then again, i just cant explain why, but i cant see myself using an iphone ever. i practically hate it..
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I am not suggesting that the iphone is an overall better phone... it's just that motion and scrolling are better as it uses a dedicated GPU. If i was to buy a phone i would again go for the Desire. It also costs almost half the price of the iphone.

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I am not suggesting that the iphone is an overall better phone... it's just that motion and scrolling are better as it uses a dedicated GPU. If i was to buy a phone i would again go for the Desire. It also costs almost half the price of the iphone.
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Hey dont get me wrong there! i was just voicing out my opinion on an iphone. Guess we're on the same page there.

Nothing desperately wrong with the iPhone. I own both and they are both fantastic. Why dont you try the desire, galaxy s and desire HD in store and see which one you like best?

ste1164 said:
Nothing desperately wrong with the iPhone. I own both and they are both fantastic. Why dont you try the desire, galaxy s and desire HD in store and see which one you like best?
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Well I can try out the galaxy s n desire in store, but not the desire hd as it's still not out.. well, even I admit the iPhone can be good, it just isn't my cup of tea
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bluesax said:
I've recently upgraded from Hero to Desire and i can assure you it definetely worth the money. IMO Hero's hardware is insufficient to support its software, making the phone lagging most of the times. Desire's 1ghz processor + extra RAM makes the phone work fluently - almost as an iphone. Also desire has a much better camera and a much better screen in matters of brightness and resolution. Body design is also better, phone is thinner and construction sturdier. The battery life isn't as good as on the Hero (lasts 3-4 days vs 1-2 days on the Desire).
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my hero is just as fast as my desire. just a easy to see in bright sunlight if not better, battery lasts longer and built much better, the only thing it cant do as well as my desire is play games .......

Hi mate, well i didn't have a hero so i can't help you out, but i had a sony xperia x10 instead and i can safely tell you the Desire is worth every penny more. Once you calibrate the battery the desire is really awesome!

HTC Desire vs Samsung Galaxy S

I have the HTC Desire and have ben using it since the past 3 months .. But seeing and experiencing the samsung galaxy S and its super amoled screen with gorilla glass and the bigger 4.3 inch screen tend for me to exchange it .
I don't know what to do .. Any help if I should or no ?
Thanks ..
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It remains a personal choice but if you are doubting between the two why not choose the nexus s, it does seem to have a flash (one of the big minuses of the galaxy s for me)

After being familair with both devices, I'd opt for the Galqaxy S. It's build quality is inferior compared to the Desire (although you do get over that quite quickly), but with ample internal memory, it heavily overshadows the desire.

I originally got Galaxy S phone. and now have a desire.
let me tell you this. if you use your GPS avoid galaxy S. the GPS doesn't work. it might be able to lock on your location when you are standing still after a few minutes. but start driving around and all of the sudden you are jumping from street to street.
also. Galaxy S doesn't have anything near the size of the dev community that desire has. it all might change since its very close to nexus s. but at the time there were no AOSP roms for it available so you were stuck with roms based on samsung's original rom.
I pretty much like every aspect of the desire better than the galaxy phone except the screen. even then desire has a pretty nice screen on its own.

what about the front face cam for video calls??

i find the galaxy s an awful looking and feeling phone may have more space & bigger screen, but i wouldn't swap my desire for it.

They are essentially the same phone so it comes down to the quality of the hardware and the desire wins by a clear mile. Desire for me.

Additionally The Samsung customizations are absolutely terrible ... They just destroyed android... I have tried one and for instance the Samsung application that replaced "people" is much much worst than the desire one...

If you plan to go on a lot of 3D games like the gameloft ones the galaxy s much better. Also the super AMOLED screen is probably one of the best out there.

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If you plan to go on a lot of 3D games like the gameloft ones the galaxy s much better. Also the super AMOLED screen is probably one of the best out there.
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yes humming bird is better for graphics than snapdragon as snap dragon is over a year old now while humming bird is 6months old

rafi300 said:
I have the HTC Desire and have ben using it since the past 3 months .. But seeing and experiencing the samsung galaxy S and its super amoled screen with gorilla glass and the bigger 4.3 inch screen tend for me to exchange it .
I don't know what to do .. Any help if I should or no ?
Thanks ..
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Imho the devs working on galaxy s roms are not as good as the ones we have involved here. Also the gorilla glass is a lie: it gets scratched anyway, check youtube yourself if you want. Sure galaxy s works better for games, but it needs a lag fix or it will become really sluggish...on top of that samsung is really bad in terms of user assistance and rom updates. I trust htc way way more and i don't care too much about games, hence why i picked the desire. My 2 cents...

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i find the galaxy s an awful looking and feeling phone may have more space & bigger screen, but i wouldn't swap my desire for it.
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+1.
Samsung has better battery though, but Desire is clearly a better device. And between 8GB of internal storage and SD slot I would opt for SD.
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Samsung TouchWiz looks fairly ropey to me - HTC Sense is nicer.
Samsung GPU is better than the Desire's - Samsung if you want to play heavy games.
Samsung's casing is lighter but plastic compared to Desire's nicer, but slightly heavier finish.
Two users that I know with a Galaxy S said they _needed_ the lagfixes on it - while four users of desire haven't needed anything of the sort.
I think the battery life is neither or nor there - my phone lasts about two days between charges - so does the galaxy S from what I've heard - think it depends how you use it.
I'm sticking with my Desire

feel like putting in my 2 cents as well.
Love the look and feel of the desire,galaxy just felt budget.
I wont ever buy a phone that doesnt have an sd slot (sorry apple)
Choosing between screens is a bit nit picky isnt it...can you really tell that the desire has less pixels or a less sharper image? come on get your microscopes out.
After i got my desire i tested it next to a galaxy in the store and pic quality was better on desire, also speed was better.
I think i have a thing for sense it works for me.
For someone who was previously a samsung fan for my last 7 phones (after nokia went to that rubbish symbian thing) i have to say desire hands down

Desire or desire hd, the hd has similar graphics to the Sgs and a better CPU
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I want to add something here.
Galaxy S is not something you want to compare with the normal Desire.
Galaxy S belongs to a younger generation which is obvious better, Desire is also much cheaper than Galaxy S.
If you want to compare than compare Desire HD and Galaxy S.
I prefer to have a Desire HD instead of Galaxy S.
Reasons: Sense HD is way more beautiful than TouchWiz. trust me on this one. I have flashed the ported Touchwiz on DeFrost...pheeeewwwww...I wanna puke seing the Touchwiz UI...but this is only my personal taste tho'

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If you want to compare than compare Desire HD and Galaxy S.
I prefer to have a Desire HD instead of Galaxy S.
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Of course you're right, but this isn't the topic...
To add something, do you think the hardware of the Desire will last 1 year and half or more ? I wish it would not become obsolete...

LocoMan57 said:
Of course you're right, but this isn't the topic...
To add something, do you think the hardware of the Desire will last 1 year and half or more ? I wish it would not become obsolete...
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It is very difficult to say...if you pay attention to the smartphone development this year, you can see that the technology advances mega rapidly.
There is already news about the existence of dual-cored smartphones somewhere next year.
I think, even Galaxy S and Desire HD will be strongly out-of-date if the news are true, not to mention the normal Desire which is already older.
The question of the term obsolete is therefore going back to you, how often do you want to get a new cellphone, how much are you willing to pay for it and what are you going to do with the phone.,
For me, I am planning only to use my normal Desire (bought 2 months ago) until the dual-cored smarties are available on the market. I will consider that my Desire is obsolete at that time.

I appreciate all you're opinions ..
I have researched alot into the galaxy S and desire is for sure better built quality .. But the samoled and hummingbird with the gpu inside tells me to gt galaxy S .. But than the ppl say lag and gps stuff .
I m all for rooting and modifying my phone to the fullest with developer refined roms .. Would the darkys rom and newer voodoo kernels fix all this problem of stock gps and lag problem ?
I m also more leaned towards galaxy due to the fact that Googles newest Nexus S is v similar in hardware to the galaxy S .. So there will b a big spike in development in upcoming months is what I think ?
I may be wrong ..
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