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I've just driven over 400 miles...
I was using my Desire with Co Pilot to navigate me from Scotland to Bristol...
The phone was in my phone holder which is placed in the cigarette lighter so the phone can apparently be charged at the same time as being held...
The phone showed that it was "charging" and yet it still ran out of power....
That's right.. the CHARGING phone RAN OUT of power and switched off!!!!!!! TWICE!!!!!!!!
Has anyone else experienced this? I can't imagine that this phone uses more power than the charge being applied?!
I used my Desire as GPS (with Copilot) the phone had 70% - 80% battery and after sometime it actually charged to 100%. Maybe there is some malfunction in your car charger or just not making a good contact in cigarette lighter plug. Check if charger's led lights all the time.
car chargers trickle charge so they prob couldn't keep up with the demands of CoPilot on the phone
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car chargers trickle charge so they prob couldn't keep up with the demands of CoPilot on the phone
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You need to ensure that the car charger is rated at 1AMP at 5V otherwise it will as stated only trickle charge. I've heard this story on other devices. Do you have a genuine HTC charger?
Also if the device gets to warm, it will stop charging in order to avoid damage.
Thanks for the reply guys!
No, it's not a geniune one... I tried 2 different ones, both the universal holder/chargers from Mobile Fun..
So far they've both been fantastic until this little phone came along...!
Connections have been fine, which is the strange thing..
It did get hot though, so you may be right Ardsar... Any way of keeping it cooled?
Buy OEM...
http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=...ient=firefox-a&price2=15.00&show=dd&scoring=p
Always best as you know that it'll work...
i have had the same problem plugging it into my computer and using it at the same time killed it.
charmz2k2 said:
I've just driven over 400 miles...
I was using my Desire with Co Pilot to navigate me from Scotland to Bristol...
The phone was in my phone holder which is placed in the cigarette lighter so the phone can apparently be charged at the same time as being held...
The phone showed that it was "charging" and yet it still ran out of power....
That's right.. the CHARGING phone RAN OUT of power and switched off!!!!!!! TWICE!!!!!!!!
Has anyone else experienced this? I can't imagine that this phone uses more power than the charge being applied?!
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http: //forum.xda-developers. com/showpost.php?p=6075788&postcount=11
http: //forum.xda-developers .com/showthread.php?t= 658338 (delete the spaces)
Same as what others say as well. Your car charger doesn't supply enough amps to keep up.
Ofcourse it gets really hot, navigation is one of the most heavy thing you can do on the phone. And while doing that you charge it at the same time in perhaps a warm car as well.
But, get a 1A charger, not a 500mah like most are.
Same goes for hooking it on the computer, the usb port might not give enough power so the phone can drain itself when doing real heavy stuff.
Plugging something in does not guarantee it will work, you have to know what you plug in
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i have had the same problem plugging it into my computer and using it at the same time killed it.
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Of course you will - USB ports can only supply upto 500mA if you have nothing else connected to the USB HOst.
Same story for me.
I got a 550 mA car charger, and battery wasn't charging but slowly discharging (about 5-10% per hour) with navi+HDSPA.
Thought, well, 550 mA is not enough, let's see the plug charger from Desire box: that's 1000 mA. Let's go get a 1A car charger.
Got this www . p4c.philips. com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=DLM2206/10&slg=it&scy=IT (saw off spaces) which is rated 5V-1A.
Plugged in, started navigating+HDSPA for satellite layer, and still wasn't charging but discharging at a rate of about 4% per hour.
I'm really annoyed 'bout this, I spent 20+15€ for both chargers, I do not want to spend another 25€ for OEM charger....it's unbelivable that I'd finish to buy 60€ of chargers to find out one that do not let battery deplete.
As a final test, I'll try a different cable from original HTC sync cable included in the box...let's see.
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Buy OEM...
http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=...ient=firefox-a&price2=15.00&show=dd&scoring=p
Always best as you know that it'll work...
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Can anyone who has used this confirm it will manage to charge fully even while the Desire is running a satnav program?
Why don't you plug in your normal charger and start running a navigation demo or something.
Not sure if that uses as much energy, but I think it most probably will. The original charger outputs 1A.
If the socket charger does the job, but not the car charger (read: you can also run a navigation demo in the car using that charger) your car charger might not be supplying enough energy as it should.
Or you can use a multimeter and see how many amps it outputs. But the pins are a bit smallish
Tried with another cable (not the original sync one) with just power wires connected, same story: I'll try with the original wall plug charger and see if it does the same or not, as both the Philips charger and the original HTC wall charger are rated 5V-1A
It does get very hot. I used my gps for 9 hours in a row and at the end it got too hot or something and the phone just rebooted.
Still It wasn't because the battery had run out of juice it was still good.
Also it was streaming music over bluetooth at the same time.
Used Nav for 1 hour this morning on the way to work while charging from the official HTC car charger. Phone now sat on my desk, battery reporting 100%.
The phone did get pretty hot though...
FlatEric83 said:
Same story for me.
I got a 550 mA car charger, and battery wasn't charging but slowly discharging (about 5-10% per hour) with navi+HDSPA.
Thought, well, 550 mA is not enough, let's see the plug charger from Desire box: that's 1000 mA. Let's go get a 1A car charger.
Got this www . p4c.philips. com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=DLM2206/10&slg=it&scy=IT (saw off spaces) which is rated 5V-1A.
Plugged in, started navigating+HDSPA for satellite layer, and still wasn't charging but discharging at a rate of about 4% per hour.
I'm really annoyed 'bout this, I spent 20+15€ for both chargers, I do not want to spend another 25€ for OEM charger....it's unbelivable that I'd finish to buy 60€ of chargers to find out one that do not let battery deplete.
As a final test, I'll try a different cable from original HTC sync cable included in the box...let's see.
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FYI, not all chargers are equal. I believe that HTC devices need a combination of pins to be connected on the USB port to "tell" the phone that it's connected to a real charger and not a USB port, otherwise the phone will only pull 0.5A, regardless of the output capacity of the charger.
This always used to apply to older HTC phones, and I can't see why they'd change it, so it's quite possible that your 1A Philips charger will not charge the same as my 1A HTC charger...
If in doubt, OEM
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FYI, not all chargers are equal. I believe that HTC devices need a combination of pins to be connected on the USB port to "tell" the phone that it's connected to a real charger and not a USB port, otherwise the phone will only pull 0.5A, regardless of the output capacity of the charger.
This always used to apply to older HTC phones, and I can't see why they'd change it, so it's quite possible that your 1A Philips charger will not charge the same as my 1A HTC charger...
If in doubt, OEM
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That's what I thought, as I imagined that: I hoped that another cable I have, which has USB on one side and a 2 poles connector on the other side on which you connect various connectors, would be recognized by Desire as being a pure power cable. I wasn't lucky.
Since OEM is out for 25€, I tried with non OEM before to save some, but till now I buyed 35€ worth chargers, I'd have to stick with OEM
But now I'm really reluctant on getting OEM, since I do not want to end with spending 60€ in order to have my phone charged while navigating....I'll try to tinker some, and if I'll find out how, I'll report
I had the same problem by using a 1.5A car charger which is working great with iPhone.
As for the PC USB charge... are you sure it can't output 1A to charge the device??
JapanLover said:
I had the same problem by using a 1.5A car charger which is working great with iPhone.
As for the PC USB charge... are you sure it can't output 1A to charge the device??
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USB2 specs do say that ports shall provide max 500 mA, ehnce motherboards have this limit.
BTW, here's a discussion I've found about the "cable" problem
forum.xda-developers. com/archive/index.php/t-643808.html
For HD2 (which is actually the model to which HTC CC C200 is dedicated)
I'll try to tinker with some cheap cable and see if this works.
Last night, I decided to use my HD2 charger, since it was already in my drawer. Charged it around midnight and woke up around 4 and it only charged 10% So I decided to use the Motorola charger, and when I woke up around 6 it was fully charged in less than 2 hours. So my question is, are we only suppose to be using the charger that came w/ it or is my outlet possessed
The actual cable doesn't matter, but the charging port seems to. My phone doesn't charge as well when hooked up to my HTC Aria's usb charge vs. the one that came with my Atrix or even the old Motorola Z9 charger I have (like this one since it's longer than my USB cable and it reaches my bed so I can do "Sleep as a Droid"
I tried using my Nexus charger last night and the phone didn't like it at all. It started FC'ing all over the place and I had to reboot it. The voltage on both chargers are the same. For a moment I thought I f'd it up but it's been fine all day.
I'm using Blackberry's micro usb chargers with no problem. I bought a few of these for my N1, and they work fine with the Atrix. The N1 charger from Google/HTC does not work like you all have said.
http://www.amazon.com/BlackBerry-Fo...PN0S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1298495146&sr=8-2
Roricken said:
Last night, I decided to use my HD2 charger, since it was already in my drawer. Charged it around midnight and woke up around 4 and it only charged 10% So I decided to use the Motorola charger, and when I woke up around 6 it was fully charged in less than 2 hours. So my question is, are we only suppose to be using the charger that came w/ it or is my outlet possessed
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Check the amp output of the charger, a good one will be at 1amp, where most are around 500ma or less.
If you're having charging issues, it's probably because the charger isn't supplying the required 800ma draw. Most USB power adapters still only output 500ma max. Be sure your 3rd party charger can output 800ma or more. For example the Apple USB adapters can output anywhere from 1000ma to 2000ma and they work great charging the Atrix.
Hope this helps!
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I tried using my Nexus charger last night and the phone didn't like it at all. It started FC'ing all over the place and I had to reboot it. The voltage on both chargers are the same. For a moment I thought I f'd it up but it's been fine all day.
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I'm using Blackberry's micro usb chargers with no problem. I bought a few of these for my N1, and they work fine with the Atrix. The N1 charger from Google/HTC does not work like you all have said.
Yep to both. I tried my N1 charger last night, and the Atrix wasn't having it. Tried my BB charger at work and it charged up quickly. It's weird. On the plus side, a second usb cable is only 6 bucks from at&t ... which is fair.
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The Atrix must be a little charge sensitive (maybe it has a rapid charge mode or something). We have at our counter a surge protector that also has two built in USB ports for charging. We've charged our iPhone 4 and my Captivate at the same time for months.
When I plugged in the Atrix, it starting chirping (like switching the charge mode on/off/on/off) and the iP4 _also_ started flipping out (again, like the power was being interrupted).
I wound up plugging into the same surge protector, but used a regular AC outlet and the supplied USB>>AC adapter. Everything ran/charged just fine.
Mine seems to freeze up and force close often whenever I charge it with my blackberry cord. The same cord had been charging my Backflip fine for months.
Need the Amp rating
I don't have an Atrix yet (I will soon).
The Blackberry charger that I have puts out 700mA.
But I have tried to use other micro USB chargers with the BlackBerry (BB) and if the charger does not put out the right amps, the BB keeps flipping into/out of clock mode. If you then plug in a BB charger....works great.
A USB-Port is only supposed to deliver 500mA by norm.
So, to charge the phone it hast to be >=500mA.
That explains why the Atrix charges really slow hooked up to a PC, since the battery is ~1900mA/h
You do the math
I'm using a Samsung wall charger right now with no problems.
Has anyone tried using an apple charger/aftermarket apple chager on their Atrix yet? I have an incase combo charger that can feed 2 amps (necessary for the ipad) and I'm worried it might cook something.
http://www.goincase.com/products/detail/combo-charger-ec20035
Yeah I use a cheap generic CELLNET wall charger and works perfect no problems
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I'm using a Samsung wall charger right now with no problems.
Has anyone tried using an apple charger/aftermarket apple chager on their Atrix yet? I have an incase combo charger that can feed 2 amps (necessary for the ipad) and I'm worried it might cook something.
http://www.goincase.com/products/detail/combo-charger-ec20035
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whoa
$39 for a usb combo charger ?
does it give me a bj everytime i plug it in ?
Thanks for all the help everyone. I decided to just stick w/ the Moto one for now. Sure does take freaking forever to charge via usb on your computer. Lots of juice power
I just got this charger from Amazon fro $5.99 with 2 day shipping (if you have Prime)and it is OEM !
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehi..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1298656516&sr=1-1
I've used my wife's captivate charger, and it seemed to charge just fine, will need to look and see the output.. I may need to try my Iphone charger and see the rating...
The B&N Nook charger works fine too.
i forgot to bring my charger to work today, phone died. then i found a charger in my desk for an old bluetooth headset i no longer have. 5v-550ma......seems to be working but i suppose we shall see
I have been using my HTC Evo charger without a hitch.
Not sure if this is an issue, or if its standard. But here is what im facing.
A charge off the wall will get my Tmobile SGS2 to a full charge (from around 15%-20%) with the stock plug and cable in about an hour to an hour and a half. However charging from my laptop or from a car charger im only getting a total increase in battery 15% in an hour. I tried to use the stock cable with the laptop and got about 25% in an hour and a half. I tried to use the stock cable in my car and only got 7% in 45 minutes.
Anyone have any ideas?
When charging from the car or from a laptop, the power is limited to what the cable/charger can supply which might not be sufficient for the SGS2. For the car charger, you can try buying one that supplies more amps, but for the laptop, theres really nothing you can do, as it is limited by the USB cable itself.
Do you mean the USB cable or do you mean the actual plug & internal workings of the laptop? because i have tried several cables. And just also remembered that i tried the stock cable as well with crappy results.
you can buy a 2A charger, and it will charge a lot faster, that's what i use in my car
at home or office, i just use the regular charger, as i always carry extra battery packs
When you plug it into the laptop it only gives out a limited amount of amps unlike the regular charger that came with the phone. The one that came with the phone regulates the charge so that it doesn't overcharge your device or anything. The laptop USB plug is supposed to be meant for peripherals like a mouse and stuff so it doesnt give out that much amps, therefore charging slower than a regular charger.
I use the t-mobile rapid car charger, It can charge this beast in about 45 minutes. It also has a 2nd port for a 2nd device.
Deebo took your bike too?
Really?! I've never seen my charging current go over 700 mA, even with a 2 amp charger.
I'd happily give up some long-term lifetime for faster charging.
Sent from my Galaxy S II using Tapatalk.
They have a home charger too that's a home charger plus car charger in 1. I use them in the cars but they're great for trips cause you have a 2 in 1 charger.
With 3 batteries and a external charger though, I never need a home charger and haven't even put this on a charger yet.
Just as most of the others have said here, the charge is going to be limited to what the source can put out. If you get another charger (2A charger) then it will be able to charger faster but you also want to be careful with using after market chargers there are some that can negatively affect your battery by overcharging which is when the phone gets fully charged but the charger does not ever stop with the flow of power to the device.
Ok Thanks all.
Guess i need a new car charger and something for the office.
Also did some crawling through "Mother of all battery life" thread found some good ideas there for making this thing last longer on the charge its got.
Im having the same problem my fone takes forever to charge...im pluged into the wall using the charger in the box n it took me no joke 7 hours to charge my fone!
Im on it rite now as its plugged i to the wall n im losing power instead of charging...i tested the voltage n its fine ...is tgere anythin i can do?
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I, myself, actually haven't used the OEM charger that came with the phone. Although I did notice it is quite small and the phone battery is a 1850mAh (larger than normal) that might affect the charging rate. I am currently using the old HTC charger that came with my Sensation and it charges fully in about 2 hours. If you want a charger that charges your phone in an hour and a half, I recommend going into a T-mobile store and grabbing the Wallcharger they sell. It charges 33% faster than OEM chargers and does not harm your device nor kill your batteries.
You can find it by clicking here
Exactly same problem as OP.
OEM wall charger charges phone to full in couple of hours but laptop USB or car USB is doing at 10% / hour assuming you don't do anything on your phone but just leave it there to be charged. Otherwise you'll be losing battery rather than being charged.
513263337 said:
Exactly same problem as OP.
OEM wall charger charges phone to full in couple of hours but laptop USB or car USB is doing at 10% / hour assuming you don't do anything on your phone but just leave it there to be charged. Otherwise you'll be losing battery rather than being charged.
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As explained in previous post, this is due to limitations in the laptop USB drive and depending on what car charger you have, the phone might suck up more juice than it is able to provide.
so this is nothing a kernel or any other tweak can fix?
mightymike889 said:
so this is nothing a kernel or any other tweak can fix?
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no a new kernel or any other tweak wont work.
So i gotta buy a new charger!?!
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Yes, or if you have like an old microUSB charger from HTC or another Samsung phone (Samsung Vibrant) you can try using those.
the 2A chargers from BlackBerry are the best
So, you guys are seeing the phone draw over 700 mA (when the charger is capable)?
If I use my iPad charger (2A), I still top out at 700 mA, and the ~4 hours that go with it. :/
Even my 1A car charger tops out at 700 mA, that's why I thought it was a hardware issue.
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I had an ATT branded iphone charger with usb port. When i plug in a usb cable and try to charge my htc on in the car it complains it cannot charge at full speed. What brand/make car charger will get me a normal charge in the car?
keroppilee said:
I had an ATT branded iphone charger with usb port. When i plug in a usb cable and try to charge my htc on in the car it complains it cannot charge at full speed. What brand/make car charger will get me a normal charge in the car?
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I grabbed this one here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA07R03A7077
Just received it a few days ago, haven't been able to fully test it, but it seems to be just fine.
Many car chargers just don't put out enough juice - especially older carrier branded ones (ie: cheaply made and sold at a premium). I'd be curious to know the rated output of yours.
The wall charger that ships with the phone is rated at 1 amp output. I've used a 500mA charger and haven't seen that message, though it does charge noticeably slower (as you would expect, with half the current). I don't know the specs on the charger that peteschlabar linked to, but you can find hundreds of chargers on Amazon or Newegg that are rated at or above 1A for a few bucks.
Well I didn't look at the specs of the charger I linked, but I was able to use it the other day while using my phone as a GPS. Battery level started at 94%, and was up to 96% about 1 hour later while using the charger and GPS nav with google maps for the entire hour. I'm completely stock, and the phone gets pretty toasty while charging.
But, main point - the charger seems to work just fine, keeping the phone charging upwards while in use.
Ahhh the joys of having an actual power outlet in your car. I don't have to worry about such things!
But my truck doesn't have that, so for my truck I bought the usb one that goes in the lighter, and it's powerful enough to charge an iPad, it's Belkin brand and it charges my phone very nicely, doesn't seem to be any slower than the house charger.
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I been using the same car charger since the inc2.
Still working great!
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The wall charger that ships with the phone is rated at 1 amp output.
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andybones said:
I been using the same car charger since the inc2. Still working great!
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The wall charger that ships with this phone is the same, albeit slightly updated, model as the one that shipped with the original HTC Droid Incredible 3½ years ago, which I still use to charge my phones. They're both model number TC U250 with 5V-1A output and both have the same 100-240V~200mA input. The part numbers are different, though, and they're cosmetically different on the back with extra certifications on the newer one, and they also added Spanish and Chinese translations to the English.
I still use the same Verizon-branded car charger in my car from when I originally bought my Incredible, and if anything, it charges this phone faster than it did my Incredible and Incredible 4G. It went from 40-something percent to fully charged in about an hour of driving the other day with intermittent use. I was pleasantly surprised to see that.
keroppilee said:
I had an ATT branded iphone charger with usb port. When i plug in a usb cable and try to charge my htc on in the car it complains it cannot charge at full speed. What brand/make car charger will get me a normal charge in the car?
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I am a big fan of Y-CHARGE 4.2 Dual USB Car Charger By TYLT
Just wondering because I don't want to mess up my battery but would rather not have to buy another car charger if I don't have to.
fatmando2 said:
Just wondering because I don't want to mess up my battery but would rather not have to buy another car charger if I don't have to.
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I would use it personally, but hopefully someone in the know can give a better answer.
I would compare the amp against the charger.
if it's less which most car chargers are, than you are ok..
only prob. you'd have is if a charger was putting out too much amp and toast the battery.
my 2 cents
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I believe it's actually the other way around. You can use a more powerful charger on a device that requires less, because the device will only draw the power it needs.
However don't use a charger that doesn't have enough power to charge the device, as the device could draw more power than the charger can provide and you risk catching the charger on fire.
This is how MacBook chargers work anyway. For example you can use an 85 watt charger to charge a 45 watt MacBook but you should not use a 45 watt charger to charge an 85 watt MacBook. (I have a few MacBooks that's why I used that reference).
I would assume cell phone chargers are the same concept.
Sent from my HTC One.
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I believe it's actually the other way around. You can use a more powerful charger on a device that requires less, because the device will only draw the power it needs.
However don't use a charger that doesn't have enough power to charge the device, as the device could draw more power than the charger can provide and you risk catching the charger on fire.
This is how MacBook chargers work anyway. For example you can use an 85 watt charger to charge a 45 watt MacBook but you should not use a 45 watt charger to charge an 85 watt MacBook. (I have a few MacBooks that's why I used that reference).
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Yep. A device will only pull the current that it needs, so high-powered PSUs on low-current devices is fine and dandy. The only difference in electrical output that would fry the phone would be voltage, but since all USB chargers "are supposed to" put out 5VDC, you're safe.
As for using chargers with less than sufficient current, I can only speak to my experience. Personally, I've never had an issue charging any of my more beefy devices (Nexus 7, Galaxy Nexus, or HTC One) off of an old 500ma charger that came with my Galaxy S (or a car charger with that same output, for that matter). The devices just charge slower. The PSU gets noticeably warm, but I'd never say it got hot to the point where the threat of combustion was even remotely possible. And as for the comparison to the MacBook charger, you're talking a difference of 40 watts, whereas these little USB chargers have a difference of maybe 2.5 watts (from the 500ma to 1A models). Not a lot of power there, really.
That said, if I were to buy a new one, I'd definitely get a charger that has the output spec to match or exceed the device's OEM charger.
I have been using the Moto charger (both USB and car, borrowed from previous Razr Maxx) and they both work great. No issues.
Your phone will regulate the power so you will have nothing to worry about with almost any charger. I plug my phone into my tablets charger all the time which is 2.1a and have never had a problem. My HTC DNA was the only one that had an issue, it would say it's not the proper charger and it's enabling slow charging. Long story short, you should have no issues