I realize that the demand for this may not be too high since the audio quality of HFP is of very low quality compared to A2DP, but I still want to do it!
As I understand it, the UConnect (Dodge Magnum) system will only accept HFP (Bluetooth Hands-Free Profile 0.96 or higher) as a source. My phone (Sprint HTC Touch Windows Mobile 6.1 Pro) can do just about every Bluetooth standard needed to transmit audio. It is already paired with the UC system and works flawlessly - even displaying battery and signal levels.
I have been scouring Google looking for a "HFP Emulator" or something that will allow my Windows Mobile phone transmit audio from WMP or TCPMP (streaming Internet radio or Orb broadcasts from my PC) using the HFP flag so that UConnect will think that it is a phone call I'm listening to. It doesn't seem as though this should be so difficult...
I don't have a physical audio input in my car or anything. I'm really just curious if there is a Windows Mobile hack/application that will do this or any other method you know of?
You may want to try this:
http://www.jetwaremobile.com
I am interested in using the Blackberry Bluetooth Gateway (with my TP2) to stream A2DP music and my navigation app voice instructions to my RV stereo using the 3.5mm aux output on the Blackberry Bluetooth Gateway.
I don't actually own the Blackberry Gateway yet, so if there is a better product, let me know.
Question is, can I use the Gateway bluetooth for the A2DP streams and still send/receive calls on my Jawbone Prime headset at the same time.
I know that the A2DP audio will not continue when I am on a call. That is fine. But can I maintain connections to 2 bluetooth devices simultaneously, one for A2DP and one for phone calls?
Was just messing about with the phone to see if i could and it worked perfectly. Not sure about two different audio devices but you can use 2 bluetooth devices at the same time.
i have been able to use an external bluetooth gps reciever (with tom tom 7) and my bluetooth headset at the same time.
I was wondering if Desire works OK with bluetooth hand-free devices. Someone who can tell us about it? I use it a lot on my car and it's a basic point for a mobile phone. I would really appreciate any feedback about this.
Thanks.
xmfreak said:
I was wondering if Desire works OK with bluetooth hand-free devices. Someone who can tell us about it? I use it a lot on my car and it's a basic point for a mobile phone. I would really appreciate any feedback about this.
Thanks.
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It has full A2DP which means you can control the device using the stereo itself, something the iphone cannot do
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) is what works properly on the Desire, the iphone does not have this support
The Desire supports the following Bluetooth Profiles
A2DP,AVRCP, GAP, GOEP, HFP, HSP, PBAP, SPP, Service Discovery Application Profile
This is a full list of all the bluetooth layers
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)
Basic Imaging Profile (BIP)
Basic Printing Profile (BPP)
Cordless Telephony Profile (CTP)
Device ID Profile (DID)
Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN)
Fax Profile (FAX)
File Transfer Profile (FTP)
General Audio/Video Distribution Profile (GAVDP)
Generic Access Profile (GAP)
Generic Object Exchange Profile (GOEP)
Human Interface Device Profile (HID)
Intercom Profile (ICP)
Object Push Profile (OPP)
Personal Area Networking Profile (PAN)
Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)
Serial Port Profile (SPP)
Service Discovery Application Profile (SDAP)
SIM Access Profile (SAP,SIM)
Synchronisation Profile (synch)
Video Distribution Profile (vdp)
Wireless Application Protocol Bearer (WAPB)
Works well with my BT Parrot CK3300 kit.
Ive got a Pioneer 7100BT winging its way to me, that has A2DP, im hoping it will work well with my Desire. Will post results when i get it and install it tomorrow.
Seems to work ok with my Standard Motorola headset.
Hoping to be able to est it with a bluetooth stereo soon.
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It has full A2DP which means you can control the device using the stereo itself, something the iphone cannot do
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) is what works properly on the Desire, the iphone does not have this support
The Desire supports the following Bluetooth Profiles
A2DP,AVRCP, GAP, GOEP, HFP, HSP, PBAP, SPP, Service Discovery Application Profile
This is a full list of all the bluetooth layers
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)
Basic Imaging Profile (BIP)
Basic Printing Profile (BPP)
Cordless Telephony Profile (CTP)
Device ID Profile (DID)
Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN)
Fax Profile (FAX)
File Transfer Profile (FTP)
General Audio/Video Distribution Profile (GAVDP)
Generic Access Profile (GAP)
Generic Object Exchange Profile (GOEP)
Human Interface Device Profile (HID)
Intercom Profile (ICP)
Object Push Profile (OPP)
Personal Area Networking Profile (PAN)
Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)
Serial Port Profile (SPP)
Service Discovery Application Profile (SDAP)
SIM Access Profile (SAP,SIM)
Synchronisation Profile (synch)
Video Distribution Profile (vdp)
Wireless Application Protocol Bearer (WAPB)
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Hope someone can figure this out:
I've had experience with 3 mobiles connecting to the built-in bluetooth in my car (HTC Tytn II, HTC Hero and Nokia e71) my concern is the following:
With the Nokia, when I get a call, I hear the phone ringtone through the car speakers. But with both HTCs I couldn't, I hear the default car ringtone, which is REALLY annoying.
The nokia e71 has the following bluetooth specs:
Bluetooth version 2.0 with Enhanced Data Rate
- Bluetooth profiles: DUN, OPP, FTP, HFP, GOEP, HSP, BIP, RSAP, GAVDP, AVRCP, A2DP
does anyone know if one of the these profiles is responsible for this? which one? I hope it would work with the Desire.
by the way, does making the phone visible before connecting make any difference? (just wondering)
Yet another HTC handset I can't get to work with my factory fit blue-tooth in my Skoda Superb (delete / install any VW Audi group car)
sh500 said:
Works well with my BT Parrot CK3300 kit.
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Hi, I have the CK3200 LS-COLOR and I can't get the contacts to load on the parrot, did you have any teething troubles?
Pumpkin Lantern said:
Hi, I have the CK3200 LS-COLOR and I can't get the contacts to load on the parrot, did you have any teething troubles?
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No problems at all. Just a standard pairing; it took less than a minute to auto sync the address book and I was ready to go.
I've never had problems with this kit; have sync'd numerous WinMo devices, Blackberrys (is that the plural?!) (still active for work) and now the Android device.
beaker656 said:
Yet another HTC handset I can't get to work with my factory fit blue-tooth in my Skoda Superb (delete / install any VW Audi group car)
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VAG cars need phones that use the RSAP Bluetooth profile, it's a bit of a wierd profile and stands for Remote Sim Access Profile, now looking this up for you I can only see some blackberry and Nokia phones that have this profile.
Bluetooth phone prep is a bit of a waste of time at the moment as the company who writes the software are not fully integrating there systems with everyone else, they are also not following standard A2DP procedures, I would imagine this is due to a partnership thing with people like Nokia and company cars etc.
Next time save the 600 quid or so you pay to have bluetooth prep and get a decent stereo like I have in my Audi, unless you got satnav too then you are stuffed
I have enclosed a link on VAG group phone prep and HTC phones, make sure your SIM card is of the new Variety
http://audiforum.us/multimedia/11189-audi-bluetooth-rsap-adapter-htc-touch-pro.html
I've had mixed results.
In my car the Desire works perfectly with the Parrot CK3300. I get full bluetooth contact sync, voice dialling works fine (the CK3300 does the voice recognition as the Desire doesn't do it over bluetooth) and calls come through loud and clear.
The wife has the lower CK3000 Evo. This doesn't have a display, so you send contacts to the kit over bluetooth and then record voice tags against them so that the kit can do voice dialling. Unfortunately the Desire refuses to send contacts to it and claims that the kit doesn't support sending contacts over bluetooth. This unfortunately means the wife can use the kit for incoming calls, but has no voice dialling for outgoing calls when she also upgrades to the Desire on Saturday when her contract's up.
Dae.
But what about voice dialling over Bluetooth with any of those?
The Android OS doesn't support voice dialling over bluetooth yet.
That's why I use the Parrot CK3300 - it does it on behalf of the phone. It basically syncs the phonebook to the kit. You then record the voice tags into the kit and associate them with a contact. You can then voice dial, which the kit will match up to the contact and dial using the phone.
Even when I've had phones that do support voice dialling I've always found the Parrot more effective.
Dae
ronnyuk said:
VAG cars need phones that use the RSAP Bluetooth profile, it's a bit of a wierd profile and stands for Remote Sim Access Profile, now looking this up for you I can only see some blackberry and Nokia phones that have this profile.
Bluetooth phone prep is a bit of a waste of time at the moment as the company who writes the software are not fully integrating there systems with everyone else, they are also not following standard A2DP procedures, I would imagine this is due to a partnership thing with people like Nokia and company cars etc.
Next time save the 600 quid or so you pay to have bluetooth prep and get a decent stereo like I have in my Audi, unless you got satnav too then you are stuffed
I have enclosed a link on VAG group phone prep and HTC phones, make sure your SIM card is of the new Variety
http://audiforum.us/multimedia/11189-audi-bluetooth-rsap-adapter-htc-touch-pro.html
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Thanks for the explanation. I happen to own a VAG car, A4 B8 with concert radio.
So SAP profile is different than RSAP profile? Could this be responsible for the phone ringtone not going through the car speakers? Because everything else works perfectly, it pairs and connects automatically, syncs contacts and make/receive calls, except for the ringtone issue! Which sounds like an ambulance siren.
What stereo system did you install?
daesimps said:
I've had mixed results.
In my car the Desire works perfectly with the Parrot CK3300. I get full bluetooth contact sync, voice dialling works fine (the CK3300 does the voice recognition as the Desire doesn't do it over bluetooth) and calls come through loud and clear.
The wife has the lower CK3000 Evo. This doesn't have a display, so you send contacts to the kit over bluetooth and then record voice tags against them so that the kit can do voice dialling. Unfortunately the Desire refuses to send contacts to it and claims that the kit doesn't support sending contacts over bluetooth. This unfortunately means the wife can use the kit for incoming calls, but has no voice dialling for outgoing calls when she also upgrades to the Desire on Saturday when her contract's up.
Dae.
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That's not good to read at all if I remember correctly I think I have on my car the same parrot model as your wife. My parrot is working perfect with Omnia and Xperia but I was afraid it wouldn't work with Desire and it seems I was right to be afraid. That's a huge problem for me.
Works perfectly with my Motorola H500 Bluetooth Headset.
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That's not good to read at all if I remember correctly I think I have on my car the same parrot model as your wife. My parrot is working perfect with Omnia and Xperia but I was afraid it wouldn't work with Desire and it seems I was right to be afraid. That's a huge problem for me.
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It's a big deal for her too. I'm hoping that it'll be fixed in a future update. I'm glad we thought to check it before she upgraded to the Desire. She's going to hold off upgrading until this issue is resolved as she spends a lot of time in the car and it's not cheap to upgrade the handsfree kit. It's a deal breaker for her.
salahag said:
Thanks for the explanation. I happen to own a VAG car, A4 B8 with concert radio.
So SAP profile is different than RSAP profile? Could this be responsible for the phone ringtone not going through the car speakers? Because everything else works perfectly, it pairs and connects automatically, syncs contacts and make/receive calls, except for the ringtone issue! Which sounds like an ambulance siren.
What stereo system did you install?
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I installed a Blaupunkt MP68 but would not recommend it as it's pretty old now, the good thing was in the day it matched the Audi Red dials perfect and was German so I stuck with it.
All the Pioneer new series of BT headunits have Parrot BT built in so I would recommend one of those.
hmmm ... where does one go to get at slightly more advanced settings for BT? The Settings>Wireless & Networks options are very basic. I'm hoping to be able to tweak something to make it start working with my Audi A5. I suppose I'm asking is there anything like Sim Access Profile or Jetware out there?
Anyone any ideas? I searched Marketplace but nothing relevant came up.
I have found that my motorola headset keeps connecting and disconnecting like it is going out of range.
Thing is, it can be in my pocket about a foot from my headset and still disconnect and reconnect several times a minute.
I must be blind but I haven't found any info on how to stream sound from my desire to my pc through bluetooth service. I have a bluesoleil installed on my pc and AV Headphone service is activated. Still I cannot figure out how to play sound though the bt
any hints?
Same Here,
I have stereo audio and telephony audio gateway services, but the desire just sees it as a computer. It doesn't see that it can be a headset or a speaker... The bluetooth is really simple, it doesn't list services etc.
How do we get it to work?
make sure u have bluetooth on and discoverable on both devices. on pc add a new device, pair it. if u have w7 go to control panel .view devices and printers, click on the phone nad the bt screen will come up. click connect. on the desire just play a music track
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if u have w7
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nope, xp here. Devices are paired but nothing happens. Desire simply does not see audio service started. Music goes to dynamic as usual.
more hints needed pls
# Windows XP: Does not natively support A2DP, but newer Bluetooth USB dongles and built-in adapters include drivers with A2DP support.
JaykaySLO said:
# Windows XP: Does not natively support A2DP, but newer Bluetooth USB dongles and built-in adapters include drivers with A2DP support.
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as I said I've activated audio sink on the pc. I think this is the a2dp profile
and yes it does support a2dp
http://www.mercateo.com/p/C1003-2156959/Gembird_BTD_MINI2_Tiny.html