[Q] Input Controller Lag? - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i have been waiting for a gaming phone for a long time so snapped up the xperia play as soon as i could but after a bit of use with some of the faster paced games im feeling like there is noticable input (controller) lag and this is completely spoiling some games
i was assuming this would be a top priority for a gaming device to ensure minimal input lag, is this a general issue with android, not offering direct access to hardware buttons? or could it be software just isn't interfacing the hardware buttons in a suitable way for the xperia
i am really quite taken back by this discovery and if this is a hardware issue that can never be fixed then this is not going to offer a good portable gaming experience for anything other than slow paced games

knapman said:
i have been waiting for a gaming phone for a long time so snapped up the xperia play as soon as i could but after a bit of use with some of the faster paced games im feeling like there is noticable input (controller) lag and this is completely spoiling some games
i was assuming this would be a top priority for a gaming device to ensure minimal input lag, is this a general issue with android, not offering direct access to hardware buttons? or could it be software just isn't interfacing the hardware buttons in a suitable way for the xperia
i am really quite taken back by this discovery and if this is a hardware issue that can never be fixed then this is not going to offer a good portable gaming experience for anything other than slow paced games
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cant say ive experienced this one, got about 10 psx games 10 N64 and normal ones no issues on anything i play?

knapman said:
i have been waiting for a gaming phone for a long time so snapped up the xperia play as soon as i could but after a bit of use with some of the faster paced games im feeling like there is noticable input (controller) lag and this is completely spoiling some games
i was assuming this would be a top priority for a gaming device to ensure minimal input lag, is this a general issue with android, not offering direct access to hardware buttons? or could it be software just isn't interfacing the hardware buttons in a suitable way for the xperia
i am really quite taken back by this discovery and if this is a hardware issue that can never be fixed then this is not going to offer a good portable gaming experience for anything other than slow paced games
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Can you tell us, on what games did you have the problem?, are you using an emulator, or a game from the market?
this will help others to test the same games and get a feedback...

well something that exposes it for me is mario 3 or mario world, nes / snes, these are games require a good level of accuracy, i know how these games should feel as i've played them quite a bit
playing these games on the xperia seems to be similar to when i tried playing them on a desktop with a cheap wireless keyboard that had known lag issues, its like you have to preplan every move you make rather than just play it and you end up constantly overshooting jumps and running off edges, if you then put the game onto something lag free you'll find you aren't making any of these mistakes

knapman said:
well something that exposes it for me is mario 3 or mario world, nes / snes, these are games require a good level of accuracy, i know how these games should feel as i've played them quite a bit
playing these games on the xperia seems to be similar to when i tried playing them on a desktop with a cheap wireless keyboard that had known lag issues, its like you have to preplan every move you make rather than just play it and you end up constantly overshooting jumps and running off edges, if you then put the game onto something lag free you'll find you aren't making any of these mistakes
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i believe thats an emulator lag, cause i have the same feeling playing on an Archos tablet with the wiimote.
try playing with the touch screen and test if you feel the same lag...

I found it to be emulator related (snes9x EX was the snes one to give me input lag when I tried DKC2).
Other software seems to work fine.

I havenĀ“t experienced any lag ussing xperia play controller.

Neither have I experienced any lag I am using Snesoid

i have just given snesdroid a try and i believe you are correct, it does seem far more responsive with the controls compared to tiger snes and snes9x ex, so hopefully this means it really is just a software issue, i found the tiger king releases to be great in every other way so its a shame they have this issue, but i guess i'll be checking out the .droid alternatives for now, thanks

knapman said:
i have just given snesdroid a try and i believe you are correct, it does seem far more responsive with the controls compared to tiger snes and snes9x ex, so hopefully this means it really is just a software issue, i found the tiger king releases to be great in every other way so its a shame they have this issue, but i guess i'll be checking out the .droid alternatives for now, thanks
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Glad I could help you out there now start bashing some buttons

arcticmedia said:
Neither have I experienced any lag I am using Snesoid
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I know this is a very old thread, but what games are you playing? I am using Snesoid and it still lags enough that quick action games are unplayable.
The main game I play is Wild Guns - on the XPlay, for example the character doesn't start moving until slightly after the direction is pressed, the aiming reticle does not stop moving until slightly after the direction is released. This makes precise positioning of the aiming reticle impossible, because for best play you need to shoot tiny enemy bullets out of the air and if you can't stop the reticle in exactly the right place the bullet will kill you. On a real SNES I can beat the entire game without dying, but on the XPlay I will lose all my lives by the 2nd stage.
The next game I spent a lot of time playing on a real SNES is Super EDF - using the Photon weapon and flying right up point-blank to enemies - obviously if the input response is not instantaneous then either I run into the enemies when I can't stop, or the enemies run into me when I can't move. I can't quite beat this game without dying on a real SNES yet, but same thing for XPlay - I will lose all my lives 30 seconds into the first level.
Contra III - on the bike level when the big ship comes down (if lucky enough to get that far), try squeezing between the electric beams - it's easy on a real SNES but you can't stop in the right place with input lag and you will be zapped.
Input lag probably isn't a big deal for menu-surfing in Final Fantasy or whatever most other people like to play, but it's fatal for coin-op style games where precision is needed.
As it is I don't play any more games on the XPlay. I don't know if it is just an emulator issue or if it gets better on native XPlay software, since there isn't any XPlay software that I have played to an expert level.

im also experiencing a input lag but only on native playstation games like 30Ms delay

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[Q] Questions before buying

I'm looking into getting a Nexus, and I have a few questions:
How common is the banding/burn-in problem? (I don't leave static images on the screen for long, but I'm worried about this because a lot of people seem to be complaining about it and saying it happens in only 3 days)
How is the multitouch , as in, does it track your fingers well, and how many fingers max? (I'm asking cause the android phone I'm on now has major issues with multitouch)
Do most 3D games run smooth? (max payne, gta, nova, spiderman, etc...)
What are your personal gripes with the phone?
I really appreciate you answers, sorry if I'm asking too much, I just want to be sure about buying, $350 seems "too good to be true" for a phone this good lol:silly:.
kingv10 said:
I'm looking into getting a Nexus, and I have a few questions:
How common is the banding/burn-in problem? (I don't leave static images on the screen for long, but I'm worried about this because a lot of people seem to be complaining about it and saying it happens in only 3 days)
How is the multitouch , as in, does it track your fingers well, and how many fingers max? (I'm asking cause the android phone I'm on now has major issues with multitouch)
Do most 3D games run smooth? (max payne, gta, nova, spiderman, etc...)
What are your personal gripes with the phone?
I really appreciate you answers, sorry if I'm asking too much, I just want to be sure about buying, $350 seems "too good to be true" for a phone this good lol:silly:.
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Based only on my personal experience, other users may have other opinions
1. No burn in for me yet. Getting one in 3 days is not normal, and should be exchanged. Some people try to combat this by mods which hide the notification and navigation bars. Some run their phones with a white screen for several hours to "exercise" the pixels.
2. Multitouch is great for me.
3. I've been playing Mass Effect Infiltrator with no problems/lag/stuttering. The upper right side of the phone beside the camera does get warm when you play 3D games though, since that's where the SOC is.
4. Battery. The giant screen is the biggest user of battery, so if you play a lot of games, be prepared to charge before the day is over. This is easily rectified by the extended battery or an external battery pack
It's a great phone, and well worth the $350 price for it.
Thanks for your reply, you totally absolved my doubts, excited to order the phone now!

Angry Birds on S3...

Anyone try Angry Birds on the S3?
Feels so laggy. Is this a problem with AMOLED or what? Needs an update? It feels/looks like you're playing a game on an LCD HDTV without game mode turned on. Bad input lag and the birds slightly, but noticeably to me, stutter across the display like the response time is very low.
Also don't like how it works with the S3 screen res. The only way to play AB to me is to zoom out all the way so you can see what you're aiming at, and so it doesn't pan the view as you fire, throwing off your shot. This makes things tiny on the S3 with such a large horizontal view.
Sucks cause Angry Birds is about the only game I play on my phone when I'm bored and without my tablet. It runs much better on my Thunderbolt too.
Feels and looks fine to me. I don't notice any lag at all, gameplay is smooth.
Ok never mind lol. Was exploring the phone last night and had turned on power saver which limits cpu frequency. Would explain why my phone has been feeling laggy in all day.
BeavermanA said:
Ok never mind lol. Was exploring the phone last night and had turned on power saver which limits cpu frequency. Would explain why my phone has been feeling laggy in all day.
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LoL. Had a feeling that's what the issue was
Happens to the best of US

[GAME] The Infinite Black; space theme mmorpg

Mythra, one of the mod/GM of the game runs it on her Nexus 7, as I do.
Cryric, developer is working on a tablet version UI.
FPS is around 14-24 (my SGS3 gets 31-34) depending on how zoomed out you are but very playable, it is not a graphics intensive game. It is similar IMO to Eve Online Space MMO on the PC.
There is keyboard lag, I use Thumb Keyboard for the arrows to correct misspellings.
Chat is rather small, compared to on a phone but readable.
If you play or consider playing, please get on their forum>suggestions and shoot them a few.
http://www.whalesonggames.com/forums/showthread.php?121-Latest-APK-for-direct-download-in-emulators
ign is clockcycle
I started playing this game about a week ago on my Xperia Play (gets about 30 fps but as mentioned fps literally has no bearing on the game from what I can gather) and absolutely love it. I got hooked on Vendetta Online but playing on a phone, even one with a gamepad, is impossible due to how deep the combat is but this game manages to be incredibly deep while completely stream-lined for smartphones and I really can't recommend it enough to people looking for a good MMO on their android phones or tablets.
I tried playing this but quickly got lost and gave up. I can't figure out how to get my sword or cast cure...
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Screen quality seems to have dropped in games since 5.1.1

Hi, I have just upgraded my 12.2 last night to 5.1.1 , since updating i have noticed 2 things with 2 games i play:
Clash Of Clans - Quality of the screen looks a little less in the game than it was plus when i start the game i get like a white streak at the very bottom of my screen and then the game starts afterwards.
Boom Beach - The quality of the graphics in this game looks much worse than it did before, i have checked that the quality was still set to high which it was, things just dont look sharp like they did before.
Is there something they have done in 5.1.1 to make the tablet cope with games better by reducing the quality or something?
Any advice?
Regards
James
I would thinks it's the other way around... That it's the games going into some sort of comparability mode if it's not updated to work with 5.1.1 on a screen with those specs (Rez and size) and/or not updated to run on 5.1.1 and our Exynos chips.. I'm speculating here, but I've never heard of the device maker doing the dance around , it usually the devs having to play catchup with updates to ensure their software plays well on the hardware. Good luck and check patches and updates for your games!
Having the same problem here with display after updating in 5.1.1, in almost every app and in browsing. Everything seems to be displayed in low quality aftr the upgrade. I own a tab pro 12.2 german version..
james_lpool said:
Hi, I have just upgraded my 12.2 last night to 5.1.1 , since updating i have noticed 2 things with 2 games i play:
Clash Of Clans - Quality of the screen looks a little less in the game than it was plus when i start the game i get like a white streak at the very bottom of my screen and then the game starts afterwards.
Boom Beach - The quality of the graphics in this game looks much worse than it did before, i have checked that the quality was still set to high which it was, things just dont look sharp like they did before.
Is there something they have done in 5.1.1 to make the tablet cope with games better by reducing the quality or something?
Any advice?
Regards
James
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The SAME EXACT thing happened to me on Boom Beach and Clash of Clans, more so on Boom Beach. It just started happening about 1 week ago, the "new Jellybean update" was within the last 2 weeks for me and now the games don't work very well. I get a flash of white distorted and enlarged graphic icons that flash across the bottom (like the poorest resolution possible) then it starts up and looks terrible. I've uninstalled both games and reinstalled them because I thought that I did something wrong and messed it up. I'm actually debating on uninstalling and not playing the games now because it's terrible. Silver lining, at least someone else in the world is having the same problem and it's not my tablet about to croak. I was worried I burned out my tablet.

Gaming on the V30 discussion thread.

I didn't see a thread dedicated to gaming on the V30, so I figured I'd create one for us to discuss our recommendations, thoughts etc.
Please feel free to add to the thread.
On a start, I noticed on really dark games, such as Karma incarnation 1, it looks pretty stunning. The blacks are so dark you can't distinguish the screen from the edge of the phone. And the colors of the game look amazing. It's a very dark and odd game though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.auralab.karmaincarnation1
It was free a day or so ago, and may still be. Check it out.
Anyone using Pokemon Go, South Park Phone Destroyer or Super Mario Run??.... any throttling after a few minutes or hiccups?
I'm mostly curious about playing and charging at the same time and how warm things get and if the procs slow down to a point it's noticeable in game. My current phone gets real bad with Pokemon Go after about 5 min... it's like a slide show after throttling starts, but it's smooth before the temp increases.
thanks for any info.
I've played super Mario run for periods longer than 5 minutes and it doesn't stutter or lag. The phone doesn't even really get warm. I haven't charged and played yet though as I still believe in the old "battery conditioning". ?
20degrees said:
I didn't see a thread dedicated to gaming on the V30, so I figured I'd create one for us to discuss our recommendations, thoughts etc.
Please feel free to add to the thread.
On a start, I noticed on really dark games, such as Karma incarnation 1, it looks pretty stunning. The blacks are so dark you can't distinguish the screen from the edge of the phone. And the colors of the game look amazing. It's a very dark and odd game though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.auralab.karmaincarnation1
It was free a day or so ago, and may still be. Check it out.
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Thanks for the heads up. Just downloaded. Still free.
bilbo60 said:
Thanks for the heads up. Just downloaded. Still free.
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Here's a few more.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.cubusgames.TheFrankensteinWars
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.msherwin.GameStudioTycoon3
20degrees said:
I've played super Mario run for periods longer than 5 minutes and it doesn't stutter or lag. The phone doesn't even really get warm. I haven't charged and played yet though as I still believe in the old "battery conditioning". ?
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No doubt, even I dislike charging and playing, but when you get into a group and hit raids in Pokemon Go for 8 hours charging with a battery pack on the go is a must, lol. Happy to hear at least for Mario Run you've not seen any issues. Thank you.
Here are my two cents. The games I run are Hyperburner, Hitman: Sniper, Lonewolf, PacMan CE, Star Wars Pinball, with Hungry Shark and Flip Diving for the kids. On those the phone runs like nothing is happening at all, no warming and no lag whatsoever. I also run 5 emulators: NostalgiaNES, SuperRetro 16, MD.EMU, Mugen64Plus and MAME4DROID and apart for MAME not recognizing SF3 3rd Strike's CHD image all games runs ok. The only game I have to run on basically low quality is Star Wars: KOTOR (my favorite game), for some reason it will stutter and almost drop to 5fps if I run it with high-quality graphics, shadows on, grass on and frame buffer efftecs on. I was surprised since this is an old game ported from the main PC code, my guess it is resolution limited but nonetheless, I have to run it low quality. Other than that, no issues on those previously mentioned games.
snowman_pr said:
Here are my two cents. The games I run are Hyperburner, Hitman: Sniper, Lonewolf, PacMan CE, Star Wars Pinball, with Hungry Shark and Flip Diving for the kids. On those the phone runs like nothing is happening at all, no warming and no lag whatsoever. I also run 5 emulators: NostalgiaNES, SuperRetro 16, MD.EMU, Mugen64Plus and MAME4DROID and apart for MAME not recognizing SF3 3rd Strike's CHD image all games runs ok. The only game I have to run on basically low quality is Star Wars: KOTOR (my favorite game), for some reason it will stutter and almost drop to 5fps if I run it with high-quality graphics, shadows on, grass on and frame buffer efftecs on. I was surprised since this is an old game ported from the main PC code, my guess it is resolution limited but nonetheless, I have to run it low quality. Other than that, no issues on those previously mentioned games.
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Interesting about KOTOR... I assume you've tried reducing the resolution in settings on the V30... any changes?
teknomedic said:
Interesting about KOTOR... I assume you've tried reducing the resolution in settings on the V30... any changes?
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You're correct, I changed the resolution to both normal and low and the game won't run, it gets stuck on the splash screen. Go back to high resolution and runs as it's supposed to do. Same with framerate. Clearing data didn't help too. I frankly am surprised by this.
Sent from my LGE V30 using XDA Labs
not had a lag issue but i am having a screen sensitivity issue in gaming?
jamiee6610 said:
not had a lag issue but i am having a screen sensitivity issue in gaming?
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do you have a glass screen protector on? it might be it.
iv'e been running Dragon ball Z Budokai 2 on the Dolphin Emulator 60FPS no overheating, PPSSPP full res, fpse full res OpenGL, and even moonlight streaming my computer which is streaming PS4 Remote play! :silly:
I LOVE THIS PHONE
now all that remains is to get the HDMI adaptor - to have this phone beign a full console
Orof said:
do you have a glass screen protector on? it might be it.
iv'e been running Dragon ball Z Budokai 2 on the Dolphin Emulator 60FPS no overheating, PPSSPP full res, fpse full res OpenGL, and even moonlight streaming my computer which is streaming PS4 Remote play! :silly:
I LOVE THIS PHONE
now all that remains is to get the HDMI adaptor - to have this phone beign a full console
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Could be the screen protector?
jamiee6610 said:
Could be the screen protector?
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yes. i have a glass screen protecor on my and the sensitivity is bad. waiting on my whitestone dome screen protector to arrive and replace my current one
The other day I got 7.5 hours SOT, played CSR Racing 2 for a solid 1.6 hours straight lol. Perfectly smooth the entire time, very satisfied with this phone
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The other day I got 7.5 hours SOT, played CSR Racing 2 for a solid 1.6 hours straight lol. Perfectly smooth the entire time, very satisfied with this phone
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How far are you on CSR2?
Anyone gaming on v30+? It's weird and against all the good reports about gaming on regular v30, but IT'S SLOW! FPS must be around 10-15 fps playing mobile legends, titanfall, actually all games. I can see on some points it improves but only for a couple of seconds.
I've tried playing with the game settings. None improve the frame rate..
I played lineage 2 it ran like crap at max settings . but on my iphone 8 plus not problem. Other games ive tried is kuboom wasnt so great not smooth. Gunz of boom ran ok . over all not impressed maybe lg software might be throttling the cpu/gpu so the phone doesnt get hot. My lg v30+ stayed cool playing 3+ hours straight. Now i dont game on my v30+ all my games are on my iphone.
nizmoboy98 said:
I played lineage 2 it ran like crap at max settings . but on my iphone 8 plus not problem. Other games ive tried is kuboom wasnt so great not smooth. Gunz of boom ran ok . over all not impressed maybe lg software might be throttling the cpu/gpu so the phone doesnt get hot. My lg v30+ stayed cool playing 3+ hours straight. Now i dont game on my v30+ all my games are on my iphone.
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Ur using v30+ right? Weird that almost every review or regular v30 user praise gaming performance on v30.. I'd say it's a software bug specifically on the plus
Allesa said:
Ur using v30+ right? Weird that almost every review or regular v30 user praise gaming performance on v30.. I'd say it's a software bug specifically on the plus
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Yes i have sprint lg v30+ hopefully gaming will be better when oreo update is released

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