So I finally called ATT and got the subsidy unlock code for my Tilt2.
I popped in a Tmobile sim and it instantly works fine in every function except the connections speed. I am getting Edge only.
My question is, Can this be improved by the addition of a more recent radio? Or am I stuck with Edge due to the hardware in the ATT version of the phone?
I haven't played with this phone for almost a year except for a week in December or so when I reflashed to FireStorm 7.4 while my Captivate had crapped out. So I am kinda out of the loop on this. I was told the Captivate can't run Tmobile 3G no matter what radio I run. But I was hoping since the Tilt2 has been out so long someone might have figure out something. I see the FM radio was worked out after we thought it was impossible.
My rom and radio for the Tilt2 are in my signature. Any hope of updating it for 3G speeds?
It's by hardware. I have both phones as well due to that scenario.
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FireRaider said:
So I finally called ATT and got the subsidy unlock code for my Tilt2.
I popped in a Tmobile sim and it instantly works fine in every function except the connections speed. I am getting Edge only.
My question is, Can this be improved by the addition of a more recent radio? Or am I stuck with Edge due to the hardware in the ATT version of the phone?
I haven't played with this phone for almost a year except for a week in December or so when I reflashed to FireStorm 7.4 while my Captivate had crapped out. So I am kinda out of the loop on this. I was told the Captivate can't run Tmobile 3G no matter what radio I run. But I was hoping since the Tilt2 has been out so long someone might have figure out something. I see the FM radio was worked out after we thought it was impossible.
My rom and radio for the Tilt2 are in my signature. Any hope of updating it for 3G speeds?
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Tmobile offers 3G on 1700 MGHZ and ATT is on 850 or 1900. The ATT phone does not have 1700, so there is no hope of your device working on TMO 3G in the Americas.
Edge is all you will get, as TMO still has the quad band GSM capability.
Thanks guys. I guess the extra sim with data is not all that handy then.
It still seems odd that even by flashing a new radio it wont work. I have digital radio equipment (scanners, Ham Radio) that has huge bandwidth and I would think that modern cell phones would have the same capability. But obviously it doesnt work.
Do the international versiopns of the phone have the extended frequency range capability or is it still the same problem?
The manufacturers are too cheap to enable all the frequency bands.
Actually I suspect there is a setting hidden somewhere in the radio's NVRAM that can change the available frequencies, but nobody has found it. The chipset is the same across most of these models, and obviously the radio's antennas work across all the frequencies (since they already do for 2G). And as one obvious example, the Samsung Vibrant (which was T-Mobile only) can have its radio software-unlocked to work with other 3G frequencies.
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The manufacturers are too cheap to enable all the frequency bands.
Actually I suspect there is a setting hidden somewhere in the radio's NVRAM that can change the available frequencies, but nobody has found it. The chipset is the same across most of these models, and obviously the radio's antennas work across all the frequencies (since they already do for 2G). And as one obvious example, the Samsung Vibrant (which was T-Mobile only) can have its radio software-unlocked to work with other 3G frequencies.
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Interesting. My other phone is a Captivate, which is pretty much the same as the Vibrant. I have been looking into a dual Sim adapter to run both my ATT and TMO sims in the same phone. I was told the Captivate cannot run on the TMO 3G frequencies. I will have to look into this further. That is very good information. Thanks.
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Interesting. My other phone is a Captivate, which is pretty much the same as the Vibrant. I have been looking into a dual Sim adapter to run both my ATT and TMO sims in the same phone. I was told the Captivate cannot run on the TMO 3G frequencies. I will have to look into this further. That is very good information. Thanks.
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Galaxy-S Unlock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761045
Debug menu http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...850mhz-and-1900mhz-bands-too.-Works-on-ATT-3g.
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The manufacturers are too cheap to enable all the frequency bands.
Actually I suspect there is a setting hidden somewhere in the radio's NVRAM that can change the available frequencies, but nobody has found it. The chipset is the same across most of these models, and obviously the radio's antennas work across all the frequencies (since they already do for 2G). And as one obvious example, the Samsung Vibrant (which was T-Mobile only) can have its radio software-unlocked to work with other 3G frequencies.
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I know where that setting is but the limitation seems to be in hardware.
either that, or there is a lot more hacking required than just changing the NV setting.
Hey, care to share? Can this setting be toggled using e.g. AT+HTC_DM? Is it a no-op or is there any visible effect from changing it?
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Can anyone tell me if it is possible to change the HTC from a Euro phone to a North American phone by perhaps changing a chip or programming to support 850/1900 here in North America? I live in an area where 1900 is a bit spotty and I lose signal, especially inside buildings. I love my Uni, but I have too many people complaining that I'm not getting their calls and I don't get signal where other's do.
I'm afraid I don't have enough hardware experience to be qualified to even venture a guess. But shouldn't it be as easy as changing a chip or a crystal or something?
It's just a matter of both the range of the tower you're near, as well as possibly your PRL. The priority roaming list tells the phone who's service you're allowed to use. So if there's a tower within range, but not in the PRL, chances are your phone won't use it OR it will show up as roaming.
I know you can affect the 3G part of Android phones by changing the modem firmware when using Odin, and even them I'm not sure what change is made if truly any. I don't have 3g yet with my provider, which uses the 850/1900 as well, but I currently have a Euro firmware on my phone using XW Euro firmware. I'm not sure how it will affect my 3g until my provider enables it.
Other than that, I think it's a limitation of the radio chip in the phone. It may be a firmware/software setting, or it could be hard coded into the chip.. again I'm not sure
Have you seen the previous post date? lol.
Anyway thanks for your reply
Lol, true it's old, but if anyone has a solution I'd accept it. However, I've since moved on with 3 different phones including the PPC6800, the Omnia II and presently on the iPhone 4.
Thanks anyway,
TS
No it is not possible, it´s a hardware related stuff.
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Lol, true it's old, but if anyone has a solution I'd accept it. However, I've since moved on with 3 different phones including the PPC6800, the Omnia II and presently on the iPhone 4.
Thanks anyway,
TS
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you have to change the part which contains the Radio hardware
I am starting this thread because there are a few of us out there who are using our Diamonds in the USA. As such who has the 3G working with ATT? What Radio are you using? What cool cabs are you using? Cheers.
I started this 2 weeks ago
I have a Diamond on At&t network......ALL IS GOOD.....EVERYTHING!!!!!!
Peace
Mike
I just got mine, and it is working on phone on AT&T ... but I haven't tried data connections yet. (WiFi works great.)
(The thing is so feature-stuffed it's hard to take it all in!)
I'm trying to understand how to enable the 850Mhz band, which involves flashing a new ROM, I think. Right now it has 1.93.456.2 WWE
My understanding is that it wont do 3G in the USA, even with a new ROM.
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I just got mine, and it is working on phone on AT&T ... but I haven't tried data connections yet. (WiFi works great.)
(The thing is so feature-stuffed it's hard to take it all in!)
I'm trying to understand how to enable the 850Mhz band, which involves flashing a new ROM, I think. Right now it has 1.93.456.2 WWE
My understanding is that it wont do 3G in the USA, even with a new ROM.
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That is correct. GSM 850/1900 work just fine, EDGE works. No 3G :-(
I have a diamond on AT&T and all is good except 3G data is not working only Edge. To enable the 850Mhz band you will need to flash the 0.5 Radio. Of course you also use any ROM of your choice but the only Radio that enables the 850Mhz band for now is the 0.5.
Hopefully someone will unlock the 850 3G for good.
im on att as well, im thinking of going diamond or touch pro. The 3g being activated for data is critical for me. Does anyone know for sure if the limitation is only software based, or is there hardware differences?
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im on att as well, im thinking of going diamond or touch pro. The 3g being activated for data is critical for me. Does anyone know for sure if the limitation is only software based, or is there hardware differences?
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No confirmation either way on this. It's been asked (and awaiting an answer) by lots of people. It's the "$64K question".
So, right now, there are 2 Radio ROMs that support 850 Edge/GPRS/Voice. And 0 Radio ROMs that have been confirmed to support 850 3G.
I think we're all still also waiting for the Telstra Radio ROM dump that works on Telstra's NextG/3G network. Supposedly some "custom" .06 radio. Need to wait and see.
Just a gentle reminder: don't get Radio ROMs mixed up with the other OS/software ROMs. THey are independent of eachother. It's the Radio ROM that is needed that might make 850 3G a possibility.
I'm on AT&T in so cal and once I flashed the radio to .05 my edge reception was much better and more consistent. Still waiting on Telstra radio to see if 3g works
I have the 0.5 radio, and EDGE is working just fine for me in Pasadena, CA.
Just how much faster would 3G be as compared to EDGE, if it was enabled in the phone?
Is there a way to find out what frequency the radio is currently operating at?
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I have the 0.5 radio, and EDGE is working just fine for me in Pasadena, CA.
Just how much faster would 3G be as compared to EDGE, if it was enabled in the phone?
Is there a way to find out what frequency the radio is currently operating at?
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My friend, not only 3G is ages faster than egde but also the quality of the calls are crip clear since the network/phone when switched to 3G will use a different codec when making a call thus calls are clear...
Hey guys, would you please be so kind and post in the appropriate categories. We are talking here about ROM development. So the forums are still overcrowded and filled with doubled information and useless posts. Let's try to keep this place as clean as we can.
Thanks
Hey guys, I am running on Tmobile and was wondering if I purchased a Rhodium from AT&T when they are released, would I be able to flash the Tmobile Radio onto it to enable the 1700 3G band? Is there a hardware difference between these two phone radios? I don't want to get the Tmobile one because they would then force me to purchase their data plan like what happened with the G1 and I didn't agree even though I bought the phone from someone else so I had to sell it. I am currently using a Touch Pro and the inability to use Tmobile 3G makes me really sad. I currently pay $6 for their unlimited internet.
That would be an exercise in futility. No amount of radio flashing would automagically enable a non-existent hardware. I don't think the ATT version TP2 does 1700mhz. This has nothing to do with software but hardware. It's T-mo's fault for going 1700mhz in the first place and making things more complicated. Unless you want to buy subsidized (upgrade), you can pay full price for the T-mo version and just pop in your sim card.
Well, unless I am wrong. People currently with the Touch Pro 2 right now even though the one made for Tmobile isn't out yet are able to flash the Tmobile Radio onto their unbranded Touch Pro 2 and able to use Tmobile's 1700MHZ 3G Band. A lot of these phones use antenna's that are able to tune into a broad range of frequencies and I am sure we just need the radio rom that allows for the usage of those bands. The reason why I don't want to buy it without contract because Tmobile phones have their IMEI logged on Tmobile's end and they could not allow for me to use a certain phone with certain plans. I had 3 different G1's and they were all tracked by Tmobile and didn't allow me to use my data plan with that phone specifically.
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Well, unless I am wrong. People currently with the Touch Pro 2 right now even though the one made for Tmobile isn't out yet are able to flash the Tmobile Radio onto their unbranded Touch Pro 2 and able to use Tmobile's 1700MHZ 3G Band. A lot of these phones use antenna's that are able to tune into a broad range of frequencies and I am sure we just need the radio rom that allows for the usage of those bands. The reason why I don't want to buy it without contract because Tmobile phones have their IMEI logged on Tmobile's end and they could not allow for me to use a certain phone with certain plans. I had 3 different G1's and they were all tracked by Tmobile and didn't allow me to use my data plan with that phone specifically.
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Keep in mind that the G1 is a different sort of phone. G1 is a feature phone and T-mo exclusive in the states. T-mobile doesn't log imei of regular win mobile phones. I have folks with MDA's/Wings/Tytn and even unlocked iPhones using T-mo and they just popped in their sims and set the APN properly using the cheapo data you're using too..
Could you point to where folks are flashing Touch Pro's (that don't have 1700mhz) and somehow unlocking them to use 1700mhz like you indicate?
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Keep in mind that the G1 is a different sort of phone. G1 is a feature phone and T-mo exclusive in the states. T-mobile doesn't log imei of regular win mobile phones. I have folks with MDA's/Wings/Tytn and even unlocked iPhones using T-mo and they just popped in their sims and set the APN properly using the cheapo data you're using too..
Could you point to where folks are flashing Touch Pro's (that don't have 1700mhz) and somehow unlocking them to use 1700mhz like you indicate?
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the G1 is a feature phone?
I had question on 3G network bands. I know Tmobile HTC TP2 has 1700 and 2100 UMTS for 3G coverage which is not compatible with AT&T 3G network.
Is there any way to make it compatible with AT&T 3G network? By upgrading ROM? By making some hardware changes -> How and Who would do it?
Thanks for your time. Thanks.
not possible at this time
i think if you could force hardware to work at frequencies it wasnt built to would have people buying alot less branded and locked phones.
No, the device itself is technically able to receive these frequencies, but the real problem lies with the antenna. Olipro once said he forced the frequencies on one of his devices by somehow modifying the SPL or radio (something like that, anyway), but he didn't receive any more frequencies than he did before, because the problem is with the antenna. The antenna cannot receive these frequencies, so your device is stuck with T-Mobile's 3G frequencies.
Guys, its the same reason as with the Tilt/HTC Kaiser operating on T-Mobile (although I think it was a diffrent piece of hardware. I remember a website briefly had a hardware mod that was capable, but ultimately the parts were as much as the phone....screw that
Does this apply to the EDGE network also? I recently upgraded from my AT&T FUZE to The T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 for the larger screen. I was disappointed that I lost access to AT&T HSDPA/HSUPA network but after reading this post I understood.
But the phone says I’m connected to EDGE but my average speed is 36K, equivalent to GPRS. On my previous FUZE with 3G disable & HTC 620, even a few dumb phones, the EDGE speed was always 200K+.
I don’t think is related to my location, I normally get great connection at home and at work and both locations same speed. I don’t think it is the ROM, I’ve tried a few with the same result, I’m currently using the latest Energy ROM Phoenix.
Edge & GPRS
No, Edge and GPRS are both quad band so if your device will connect to one, it will connect to the other when the signal is available. Only 3G is typically dual band. The Tilt2 picks up 3G on 850/1900/2100MHz so it has one crossover frequency with TMO, but I don't know anyone that has tried picking up 3G on TMO with a Tilt2
No, there are no limits on EDGE frequencies, as all the Rhodium variants are quad band GSM and EDGE capable, and they all support the same GSM/EDGE frequencies. It's only the HSPA frequencies that are different across different Rhodium variants, because the frequencies are so fragmented with different carriers and in different countries.
Thanks for the info.
It's amazing we put a man on the moon(over 30 years ago!) and have made so many technological feats but this we can not do...
If the phone was built one way, it's gonna stay that way.
I don't think there has been a single person in the existence of the earth that has taken apart one of these devices and replaces the radio.
Please prove me wrong.
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It's amazing we put a man on the moon(over 30 years ago!) and have made so many technological feats but this we can not do...
If the phone was built one way, it's gonna stay that way.
I don't think there has been a single person in the existence of the earth that has taken apart one of these devices and replaces the radio.
Please prove me wrong.
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It is not that it can't be done, it is just not worth your time to do it. You would be better off selling your TP2 version and getting one the works with your bands.
Thanks for all the information
As I understand to accomplish the thing that I intend to do would need total hardware replacement.
However I wonder if there are any techniques and/or ways to enhance download/upload speed with EDGE? The current EDGE speed on AT&T is very slow. I believe T-Mobile EDGE speed (I used Blackberry Pearl 8100 on T-Mobile earlier) was comparable to 3G speed on AT&T (I have Blackberry Bold 9700 from Office on AT&T). Why EDGE on AT&T is very slow?
Am I doing something wrong with communication settings? I'm using "wap.cingular" as my APN (Access Point Name).
Thanks again for all your valuable inputs.
juiceppc said:
It's amazing we put a man on the moon(over 30 years ago!) and have made so many technological feats but this we can not do...
If the phone was built one way, it's gonna stay that way.
I don't think there has been a single person in the existence of the earth that has taken apart one of these devices and replaces the radio.
Please prove me wrong.
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can you put yourself on the moon? its not that easy. you can remove the radio and corresponding internals. but you have to remove it from a working device thats already capable of those frequencies. and then why not just use that phone? its so pointless.
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As I understand to accomplish the thing that I intend to do would need total hardware replacement.
However I wonder if there are any techniques and/or ways to enhance download/upload speed with EDGE? The current EDGE speed on AT&T is very slow. I believe T-Mobile EDGE speed (I used Blackberry Pearl 8100 on T-Mobile earlier) was comparable to 3G speed on AT&T (I have Blackberry Bold 9700 from Office on AT&T). Why EDGE on AT&T is very slow?
Am I doing something wrong with communication settings? I'm using "wap.cingular" as my APN (Access Point Name).
Thanks again for all your valuable inputs.
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Try a different radio, I'm using 4.49.25.88 and my speed increased from 37K to 102K, still sucks but better. I also read on the here that switching GPRS authentication form PAP to CHAP may help also. The switch didn't work for me. I know I can get up to 200K so I will keep trying tweaks.
4.49.25.88 ? Where do I put this in Connection Settings?
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4.49.25.88 ? Where do I put this in Connection Settings?
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It's not a connection setting, it's a whole new package of code for the radios in your phone (phone, EDGE, 3G, bluetooth, wifi), and is flashed to your phone just like a full new ROM (but you can keep whatever ROM you're currently using, even if it's stock).
Pending a test I'm trying to run here, this may also help with the EDGE vs voice issue you've posted the other thread about...I think a different radio might help you with that as well.
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4.49.25.88 ? Where do I put this in Connection Settings?
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You can find radios in the ROM section.
I apologize, I feel like we're hijacking this thread. But here's a pic of my current speed using mobile speed test. Must better than it was before.
New Radio didnt help
I flashed Hard SPL and then 4.49.25.88 radio on Tmobile HTC Touch Pro 2 (with WM 6.5 official ROM).
I didn't increase the internet (download/upload) speed. With earlier Radio, the speed topped at 76 k bits per second, lowest at 19 k bits per second and averaging between 30 to 45 k bits per second. (I did about 10 to 15 tests using dslreports.com/mspeed)
With 4.49.25.88 radio, it never went above 40 k bits per second. Averaging between 19 to 25 k bits per second. Actually reduced speed compared to earlier radio.
I'm not sure what should I try next???? please help!!!
blueguy19 said:
I flashed Hard SPL and then 4.49.25.88 radio on Tmobile HTC Touch Pro 2 (with WM 6.5 official ROM).
I didn't increase the internet (download/upload) speed. With earlier Radio, the speed topped at 76 k bits per second, lowest at 19 k bits per second and averaging between 30 to 45 k bits per second. (I did about 10 to 15 tests using dslreports.com/mspeed)
With 4.49.25.88 radio, it never went above 40 k bits per second. Averaging between 19 to 25 k bits per second. Actually reduced speed compared to earlier radio.
I'm not sure what should I try next???? please help!!!
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Try .91, trust me you will find one that is perfect for your carrier and area.
I flashed Energy ROM with .88 radio, it did improve download speed. But still don't receive calls while using data.
I was recently gifted a Note 2, which is awesome and I love it, but I feel it's a shame for such a nice phone to be stuck on edge, even with Tmobile's refarming (laaaaaame). Everything I can find on Google says that it's a hardware limitation, not firmware. So I wonder, what if I swapped out the radios?
I'm aware that such a feat would require replacing the entire motherboard. If I buy a T889 motherboard and put it in my phone, what kind of issues would I run into, if any? I would have to flash firmwares and radios and such- would going to the Tmobile Note 2 board and flashing everything stock that I find over there be sufficient? Any IMEI issues that I would run into? Would my phone now be considered a SGH-T889?
No, returning/reselling and buying the T889 isn't an option. It's too much effort for uncertain risks for something I don't care all that much about. I'd be open to a trade, but it would have to be an exact counterpart to my own (unlocked, titanium gray, screen protector from new, great condition). I'm sure trading is much easier, but modding sounds much more fun.
Even if I do the mod, it won't be right away, as motherboards are rather scarce and the prices are higher than I'm willing to pay.
Not sure if it matters, but my note 2 is stock rooted and my efs partition is backed up.
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I was recently gifted a Note 2, which is awesome and I love it, but I feel it's a shame for such a nice phone to be stuck on edge, even with Tmobile's refarming (laaaaaame). Everything I can find on Google says that it's a hardware limitation, not firmware. So I wonder, what if I swapped out the radios?
I'm aware that such a feat would require replacing the entire motherboard. If I buy a T889 motherboard and put it in my phone, what kind of issues would I run into, if any? I would have to flash firmwares and radios and such- would going to the Tmobile Note 2 board and flashing everything stock that I find over there be sufficient? Any IMEI issues that I would run into? Would my phone now be considered a SGH-T889?
No, returning/reselling and buying the T889 isn't an option. It's too much effort for uncertain risks for something I don't care all that much about. I'd be open to a trade, but it would have to be an exact counterpart to my own (unlocked, titanium gray, screen protector from new, great condition). I'm sure trading is much easier, but modding sounds much more fun.
Even if I do the mod, it won't be right away, as motherboards are rather scarce and the prices are higher than I'm willing to pay.
Not sure if it matters, but my note 2 is stock rooted and my efs partition is backed up.
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1. research/check on the LTE frequency bands t mobile uses then go check for example at gsmarena.com if the N7105 supports those bands by checking it's technical specifications
2. in the mean time you can try this.. go to SETTINGS then MORE SETTINGS then MOBILE WIRELESS change your NETWORK MODE to LTE/GSM/WCDMA AUTO
if this doesn't work and t mobile runs in an LTE frequency band supported by your handset it could also mean you need to upgrade/replace your SIM card .....same number but the new chip has LTE features inside it..it's possible
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1. research/check on the LTE frequency bands t mobile uses then go check for example at gsmarena.com if the N7105 supports those bands by checking it's technical specifications
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I've done my research on this. Tmobile uses AWS, which the n7105 doesn't support. Tmobile is refarming some of their 1900Mhz to free up frequencies for LTE, which the n7105 does support, but I'm not getting 3G speeds in those areas at all. I've seen around these boards that I'm not the only one to do so.
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2. in the mean time you can try this.. go to SETTINGS then MORE SETTINGS then MOBILE WIRELESS change your NETWORK MODE to LTE/GSM/WCDMA AUTO
if this doesn't work and t mobile runs in an LTE frequency band supported by your handset it could also mean you need to upgrade/replace your SIM card .....same number but the new chip has LTE features inside it..it's possible
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As I said before, my research indicates that it's a radio hardware issue, not firmware. There are posts on how to get AT&T/Verizon/Sprint/Tmobile versions to work on each other's networks, but not much on getting international versions to fully support LTE in the US. Besides, I get 4G just fine in my old G2.
Which brings me to my original question- what issues would I run into should I do a motherboard swap?
Bump.
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I've done my research on this. Tmobile uses AWS, which the n7105 doesn't support. Tmobile is refarming some of their 1900Mhz to free up frequencies for LTE, which the n7105 does support, but I'm not getting 3G speeds in those areas at all. I've seen around these boards that I'm not the only one to do so.
As I said before, my research indicates that it's a radio hardware issue, not firmware. There are posts on how to get AT&T/Verizon/Sprint/Tmobile versions to work on each other's networks, but not much on getting international versions to fully support LTE in the US. Besides, I get 4G just fine in my old G2.
Which brings me to my original question- what issues would I run into should I do a motherboard swap?
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I have seen my note II bring opened up and I have seen a video of a N7100 being open up...they are virtually identical to me atleast.... I saw all the complex/circuitry /smart chips were all on one board like RAM, CPU including the radio...Obb the motherboard..most things if not all which connect to the motherboard are dumb circuits like there was a small board which holds the charging port and Mic and that board has a cable to connect to the main mother board...which I'm pretty sure it's dumb.no advanced circuitry...the 3.5 mm Jack port same thing, the antennas are just cables nothing smart on that, the LCD had a one cable I believed just connecting to the mother board...I personally, only my opinion there could even be a good chance somebody could even switch a note II motherboard and force into a note I so if you want to change mother boards between note II variants I think you could be successful...but again..I could be wrong...see some note II tear downs on YouTube between note II variants..and do the judging by yourself
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