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Google Android running on the hermes

On a whim I was browsing new posts on the xda forums. it seems that the guys over on the kaiser rom forum have gotten google android to boot on the kaiser. I thought hmmm... the hermes is like the kaiser, lets give it a try. So I installed the HaRET loader, got the 24mb cab file, and the latest zImage and installed it. Followed the instructions and got the hermes booting linux. I thought hey this is easy! next step, ditch WM and go with tux only. Whoops! not so fast. seems that linux won't load past the 'jump to kernel' part. I urge someone else to try this! You really need to install the cab from your sd card, and it eats up all your ram but hey its something new.
btw, use your hermes kb in the complete dark.. your eyes color shift and the buttons take on a red hue. weird. also the forum looks like crap on my hermes. isn't that ironic?

carcomp said:
On a whim I was browsing new posts on the xda forums. it seems that the guys over on the kaiser rom forum have gotten google android to boot on the kaiser. I thought hmmm... the hermes is like the kaiser, lets give it a try. So I installed the HaRET loader, got the 24mb cab file, and the latest zImage and installed it. Followed the instructions and got the hermes booting linux. I thought hey this is easy! next step, ditch WM and go with tux only. Whoops! not so fast. seems that linux won't load past the 'jump to kernel' part. I urge someone else to try this! You really need to install the cab from your sd card, and it eats up all your ram but hey its something new.
btw, use your hermes kb in the complete dark.. your eyes color shift and the buttons take on a red hue. weird. also the forum looks like crap on my hermes. isn't that ironic?
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can you make an instruction how did you manage to run android on hermes?? some links and screenshots??
thanks

The following is taken from the thread "http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
Good ROM that boots Google Andoird all the time: [May 22] Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19585 Test Version
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394202
Cab file (Credit goes to: SH4Y):
http://rapidshare.com/files/11262391..._Installer.CAB
http://www.filedropper.com/sh4ysandrioduiinstaller
Latest zImage (Credit goes to: dcordes):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...7&d=1211818766
Latest HaReT:
http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET
For more info: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
Booting Google Android
1. Goto: Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> Android.
2. Pres: Listen for network connection. Meanwhile also press run (Doing this makes Android boot most of the time).
3. Google Android is now booting or you're Kaise freezes.
4. Have fun or Soft-Reset!
If Android Is Not Booting?!?!? (Even after 20 tries). Run ClearTemp... http://www.4shared.com/file/50007273...ClearTemp.html Then Boot again!!
Menu
At this moment there is no back key mapped. So the only way to get out of the menu is by soft-reset. Ppl are working on this issue, tyring to map de back key.
FREEZES
You are probably using the original zImage of SH4Y'S CAB. Use one of the latest zImages...
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All I did was download the files, install the cab, and run HaRET and try to boot. I get the "booting linux" screen and then the linux "boot list" but then it hangs. I'll post a few pictures. My rom doesn't have a screenshot grabber, plus I don't think you can get a screenshot when you aren't even running WM?
Click Here for a way to create a fresh kernel (zImage.bin) which is possibly the fix for the hermes.
Click Here for images of Android running on a TyTN II.
EDIT: Ok so I know why its hanging on the loader... The kernel is compiled for the wrong processor. The vogue uses a different processor than the hermes. Working on this.

carcomp said:
Whoops! not so fast.
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The phone power, reset and AT CMD serial port settings are missing
in the hh.org CVS kernel. It's not very difficult to do, but nobody
has done it so far.

Interesting...Here's the original hermes discussion thread on linux (over 100 posts):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273579&page=5&highlight=Android

Looks very cool, but I guess a long way before it will work with all hardware like, radio, wifi, bt etc?
Perhaps I hang on to my Hermes for a while to run Android!

jompao said:
Looks very cool, but I guess a long way before it will work with all hardware like, radio, wifi, bt etc?
Perhaps I hang on to my Hermes for a while to run Android!
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Honestly I was thinking of jumping ships to either an iphone or a clone but I think I may wait a year and see what happens to the hermes with android. It would be nice to get it and play with it for a while so in a year I will know exactly what I want to buy and the market will have settled down a little bit.

I have compiled new zImage and HaRET. In default.txt I have lines:
Code:
set kernel zImage
set initrd initrd-android
set cmdline "root=/dev/ram0"
boot
I loaded newest initrd-android from http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
With these settings Hermes boots and it even set system clock (2028-07-05 10:40:21 ) but hangs after that, HaRet says in last line: "Freeing init memory 88k" and thats it. The initrd-android is not for Hermes and I don`t know how to make new one for Hermes. Or is this memory freeing thing more about problems with zImage?

Did you compiled it with the HTC HERMES flag?
Maybe you can upload the zimage/Harret to your post? sow more people can play with it... would be cool.
I also tried to compile a new zimage...it compiled, but it stucked at booting it with Harret. "Load kernel image" (or something like that)

Here it is. I used branch "work" and from there you can found htchermes_defconfig.

Thx..
I have the same issue as you have
But it dont give any error messages...and some key's on the keyboard(buttons) still give some respons on the screen...
And when you boot it with the usb connector with it, it says something more about that conexxion..

carcomp said:
The following is taken from the thread "http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
All I did was download the files, install the cab, and run HaRET and try to boot. I get the "booting linux" screen and then the linux "boot list" but then it hangs. I'll post a few pictures. My rom doesn't have a screenshot grabber, plus I don't think you can get a screenshot when you aren't even running WM?
Click Here for a way to create a fresh kernel (zImage.bin) which is possibly the fix for the hermes.
Click Here for images of Android running on a TyTN II.
EDIT: Ok so I know why its hanging on the loader... The kernel is compiled for the wrong processor. The vogue uses a different processor than the hermes. Working on this.
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I can't even run haret.exe (the android entry in Accessories). It says it's not a valid Pocket PC application. Any ideas??
I'm running CRC's WM6.1 v11.0.

Android Running on HTC Hermes
Hi guys, I've two days trying to run android on my htc herm100 but I can't do it. Someome may help me to compile a new kernel whit the features of my htc?? The only thing that i did was run linux on my device.

lol, why are people still messing with this?
It is NEVER going to run on the Hermes.

GldRush98 said:
lol, why are people still messing with this?
It is NEVER going to run on the Hermes.
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People said that about WM6.1 on many phones, and its been ported all the way back to the BlueAngel

veyka said:
People said that about WM6.1 on many phones, and its been ported all the way back to the BlueAngel
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dude...
It's not a simple matter or using the right version of this or that, or configuring it a certain way.
Haret will never run on the Hermes, making it impossible to ever run Android.
Hermes hardware is too old and too slow to run Andriod.
Haret can't even access the sd-card. Even if some how, some one re coded haret with the proper driver (which will not happen), there are still 100 other hurdles to over-come. They would have to get the graphics acceleration working with the ATI chip, Wifi drivers, Bluetooth drivers, etc... not to mention the actual instructions set of Andriod won't even run on the processor in the Hermes.
It will never run on the Hermes.
If you want to run Andriod, you should buy a device that supports it. Hermes will never be one of them.

GldRush98 said:
dude...
It's not a simple matter or using the right version of this or that, or configuring it a certain way.
Haret will never run on the Hermes, making it impossible to ever run Android.
Hermes hardware is too old and too slow to run Andriod.
Haret can't even access the sd-card. Even if some how, some one re coded haret with the proper driver (which will not happen), there are still 100 other hurdles to over-come. They would have to get the graphics acceleration working with the ATI chip, Wifi drivers, Bluetooth drivers, etc... not to mention the actual instructions set of Andriod won't even run on the processor in the Hermes.
It will never run on the Hermes.
If you want to run Andriod, you should buy a device that supports it. Hermes will never be one of them.
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Ahh! Seems you know more about it than I do ^^ Well, I dont expect my Hermes to, but hopefully my Kaiser

GldRush98 said:
Haret will never run on the Hermes
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what do you mean when you say that? I have used Haret on Hermes.

GldRush98 said:
lol, why are people still messing with this?
It is NEVER going to run on the Hermes.
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is this some kind of a subliminal reverse-psychology message designed to challenge some dormant genius out there to waste a coupla month of his life to prove u wrong for the benefit of everyone else here at xda-dev?! ... if so, keep it up.. I hope such genius(es) picks up this post and gets all fired up and go "HOW DARE HE! I'LL SHOW HIM"... then.. *tick...tick...tick*.....*ping!*...
oh and while ur at it... Android will NEVER run on the Trinity either!!!

Funny thing....
Hi there,
it's getting funny how many poeple out there discuss the android on hermes issue.
Basically it's not the speed of MPU or a memory issue on hermes platform.
I'm quite sure that android would do it quite well on a machine with 400MHz and 64MB of RAM .
Android in fact has another important basic requirement:
It will require at least Xscale CPU or SoC with ARM926 or higher to run properly.
All binaries in the root filesystem of android are compiled to run on an ARM platform with at least V5 instruction set.
Some older devices use some kind of PXA SoC's or OMAP SoC's which talk V5.
That's why android may be ported to run on those .
Hermes uses ARM920T SoC with ARMv4 instruction set, so a standard Android root image will not work.
That's the reason why it will be very evil thing to make it ever run on the hermes platfrom.
Someone has to fix all parts of the source code that requires V5 instructions and do a complete compile of all binaries suitable for V4 command set.
Of course to do all this a nearly complete linux subset is needed too.
As already mentioned the kernel for hermes is far away from some kind of usability .
Nevertheless, it would be very cool to get any kind of linux run nicely on hermes. Please help out with reverse engineering and writing drivers to make this come true. Perhaps also other dreams may become reality this way
Best regards,
scholbert

How to stop memory leak?

Hi All
The Diamond is almost perferct phone. But still there is one major most annying issue: memory leak.
What do we know about it? Is it WM6.1 related issue or is it based on HTC softwate? Do we have any idea how to fix the problem? Does it exist only on Diamond or is it common problem for Windows mobiles?
Thank you for your information.
Br,
Illodin

question
have you tryed a cooked rom?

Cooked Rom tested
Yes Sir,
I have tested them almost all:TLR, Elite, shipped, Diamond project... All the tweaks is checked also.
No matter which Rom, it is necessary to boot device on the daily bases. Without booting operating sytem get sticky.
Br,
Illodin

Illodin said:
Yes Sir,
I have tested them almost all:TLR, Elite, shipped, Diamond project... All the tweaks is checked also.
No matter which Rom, it is necessary to boot device on the daily bases. Without booting operating sytem get sticky.
Br,
Illodin
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in that case, have you tried the following:
1) disable tf3d
2) disable ezisip
then monitor your memory usage. it should be alot better.
lastly, do not over increase your file cache and graphic cache. i believe these tweaks will reduce your free memory.

How to stop the memory leak?
stop using your device
(couldn't resist..)

Hello,
I am afraid there is not much you can do. The problem is related to windows 6, not the touch flo...
I had the same problem with my Eten X500+, more than 1 year ago...
The fix has to come from Microsoft...
Philippe

I am using Panosha Light 5 and I have to say that it has the best memory management I tried so far,before this my memory went to around 30 in a few hours no matter what I did and with no apps running ,now I have 3 programs running and ActiveSync and the memory is 43,the last soft reset I did was ..havnt done any yet I upgraded to this rom Saturday morning.

Sick of Asus p320

I got an Asus P320 a couple of months ago but having been having too many problems with the piece - the HW seems to be grossly underpowered for WM6. apps open slowly, the phone crashes at least once a day, it suddenly loses the GSM service connection and i have to keep restarting the radio from the comm manager, picking up a call results in several apps opening on thier own (like the clock, calendar...)
I've tried upgrading to the latest WWE ROM (4.15) but the problems still persist. I'd now like to try WM5 on the device to see if it works. Would anyone know how I can port Wm5 to this device? or maybe even Andriod or Linux?
Or would anyone know how to make the damn thing more stable? I tried Pocket Hack master to overclock the CPU and it does seem to work most of the time, but the device still crashes once in a while, and it hasn't stopped multiple apps from opening when I pick up a call.
I hope Asus is reading this coz they've done a pretty bad job on the model by overloading it with wm6 and thier crazy custom apps.

try using hdubli's WM 6.5 ROM. I personaly am feeling a bit diffrence in the performance, the phone just started responding and working faster
P.S. I recomend using the bild from 21.04.2009, because the M2D Rom has many bugs

Helz said:
try using hdubli's WM 6.5 ROM. I personaly am feeling a bit diffrence in the performance, the phone just started responding and working faster
P.S. I recomend using the bild from 21.04.2009, because the M2D Rom has many bugs
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Hi Helz. Yes, I am doing that, but thanks for the tip on the builds . I've got the M2D build on, and yes - the phone is definitely more stable than before, but it does have bugs. I will try the full build this weekend
Thanks

gsm
hi guys,
due to gsm problem on p320 , let me say, some people has similar problems, and also I .
my observations shows:
fieldtest157 shows only 2 values RSSI and RX Quality.
my experience is that most stable original versions are 415wwe and 416tha.
but still is present problem of temporary "unreachability in gsm network" for cca up to half an hour , if there is some switching between BTS stations.

Solution
Hi DO the following
I was also facing same problem.
SO i install the Latest ROM (problem persist)
I again formated the Phone Reinstall the Latest ROM.
Now it was very Fast. I install Applications of choice (one by one -- then restart Device after every installation)
Now my p320 is as fast as other wm device. applications open very fast.
Dont install Kaspersky or pirated software (most of them will slow the device)
will try to install windows mobile 6.5 (from XDA)
hoping to get official WM6.5 for p320 (when released)

Check out my WM6.5 installation guide (with pix) at http://mrinaltech.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/windows-mobile-6-5-on-your-asus-p320/

Android
Hey can anyone please give me Android for porting on my P320.......because Windows Mobile is the worst os i hv ever seen.......... An unstable version is also ok till it runs.............i hv tried many like the Android Files for Diamond and Android Eclair........both boot to a certain level in Windows and then the phone switches off..............Please I like Android and I am ready at any cost to put Android on my Phone..................

Xperia ROM Question

This might be pretty n00b...but what do roms do exactly? If you install one, are you still able to use your phone with your provider and stuff...i dunno, just scared something happens to my phone.

The ROM is the operating system of your phone. It's like XP, Vista, Ubuntu, Knoppix and so on.
If you flash another ROM you will have a completely other software / interface / programms ....

Doc_Debil said:
The ROM is the operating system of your phone. It's like XP, Vista, Ubuntu, Knoppix and so on.
If you flash another ROM you will have a completely other software / interface / programms ....
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Actually the ROM is more like the hard drive in ones computer.
It does contain the operating system, but its not THE operating system.
When you change the ROM on your phone is like changing your computer's hard drive with another one that already has an operating system installed.
@Doc_Debil
Yes you will be able to use your phone with your current provider and stuff
The chances of actually bricking (permanently damaging your phone) are really slim. Just make sure you don't run out of battery when you do the update.
I also suggest doing the update from the phone's SD card. It's MUCH safer than the update through the PC.
Hope that cleared some of your questions

SyntheticDistortion said:
This might be pretty n00b...but what do roms do exactly? If you install one, are you still able to use your phone with your provider and stuff...i dunno, just scared something happens to my phone.
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Let me put it in very simple language
First there was windows3.1...then windows 95...then windows 98..then windows xp..then now windows 7...
this is a rom.
a rom upgrade will take u frm windws 95 to windows xp
So a rom update on the xperia will make ur xperia faster.prettier.and with less bugs.
Cheers,
Rotastrain

rotastrain said:
Let me put it in very simple language
First there was windows3.1...then windows 95...then windows 98..then windows xp..then now windows 7...
this is a rom.
a rom upgrade will take u frm windws 95 to windows xp
So a rom update on the xperia will make ur xperia faster.prettier.and with less bugs.
Cheers,
Rotastrain
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Very simple but not quite right.
A rom cannot be compared to an OS. Most roms will take you from Windows mobile 6.1 to windows mobile 6.1
Most differences are made within the registry and programs installed by default.
Some roms (like a super light rom) will make your xpera faster but it won`t make it prettier per se. And bugs are ever present. You cannot expect a rom to be bug free (only 1 person has dared to say that his rom is bugfree so far)
Installing another rom won`t make that much of a difference to be honest.
It might make your xperia faster with a better battery life. Or make it prettier with crappier battery life.
Most of which you could do by installing cabs (not all)

dekeijzer said:
Very simple but not quite right.
A rom cannot be compared to an OS. Most roms will take you from Windows mobile 6.1 to windows mobile 6.1
Most differences are made within the registry and programs installed by default.
Some roms (like a super light rom) will make your xpera faster but it won`t make it prettier per se. And bugs are ever present. You cannot expect a rom to be bug free (only 1 person has dared to say that his rom is bugfree so far)
Installing another rom won`t make that much of a difference to be honest.
It might make your xperia faster with a better battery life. Or make it prettier with crappier battery life.
Most of which you could do by installing cabs (not all)
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U go dekeijzer

dekeijzer said:
Very simple but not quite right.
A rom cannot be compared to an OS. Most roms will take you from Windows mobile 6.1 to windows mobile 6.1
Most differences are made within the registry and programs installed by default.
Some roms (like a super light rom) will make your xpera faster but it won`t make it prettier per se. And bugs are ever present. You cannot expect a rom to be bug free (only 1 person has dared to say that his rom is bugfree so far)
Installing another rom won`t make that much of a difference to be honest.
It might make your xperia faster with a better battery life. Or make it prettier with crappier battery life.
Most of which you could do by installing cabs (not all)
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the language was meant for noobs and new guys who dont care much bout the smaller things..

rotastrain said:
the language was meant for noobs and new guys who dont care much bout the smaller things..
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That still doesn't mean we have to give wrong information

hey guise i have a problem, before you install a different rom you need to do a hard spl and ive tried that on my x1 and it wont work can any body help me plees the hard spl cannot be installed

Why not just copy the rom onto the SD Card (root folder - you might need to rename the file into kovsky.nbh i think?), then turn off your phone, hold the power button + volume down until you see it go into service mode, then follow the instructions.
It's THAT easy
Plus you won't have to worry about those pesky cats unplugging your usb cable while you flash your phone )

Any ROM requests

I was thinking of posting one or two ROMs for this device to add some variety.
Does anyone have any requests?

I think most of people want a stripped down no frills kind of system. I used Dark's Roms for a little while but started having problems with it locking up and not receiving calls. I think if you can clean up the stock and maybe give it a face lift, well, I don't know about anyone else, but Id like that. Getting tired of the plan ol interface.

Any chance of you posting the OEMmiscs as well so that any of us who want to cook our own SYS builds can do it?
Perhaps a stripped down rom with any useful additions from the v7 Fathom rom (fathom keyboard, dialer, anything else you find worthwhile to add)?

Is there any chance to bring over the Sense 2.5?
I like the program, even though i don't have a HTC.

windows mobile 6.1?

OK, say maybe a couple of "clean" ROMs based on WM 6.1, 6.5 & 6.5.3?
I'm personally not that interested spending a lot of time porting HTC software, like Sense.
I have no problem posting my Kitchen and source files.
TrueG

Sounds good! Looking forward to the release!

He question is asked!!!
and then, nothing more has happened!!!
- made the survey and who likes what,
or have lost your phone or computer
and they said that they had gone to study
and such a thing happened in many applications and many ROMs
winmospeed
topaz rom
xperia rom
Avian Pleyer
and so on and so forth
In any case regards

Have no fear, I'm still here.
Right now I am trying to correct an issue with DZCreate.exe that is preventing me from using v10g as a base. The DragonStorm ROMs appear to be based on v10d (AT&T) with the OEMMisc from v10g.

trueg said:
Have no fear, I'm still here.
Right now I am trying to correct an issue with DZCreate.exe that is preventing me from using v10g as a base. The DragonStorm ROMs appear to be based on v10d (AT&T) with the OEMMisc from v10g.
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Thanks trueg. you are my best bud.

To be honest, I am really happy with stock AT&T April 2010. (I cannot believe I put up with HTC for 2 years).
I think the first step would be simply removing AT&T Media Net and other AT&T applications, so the ROM would be quick but still stable.
I would even leave many of the LG applications there, because the music player and scientific calculator get the job done, better than some of the cooked ROMs I tried when using HTC.

It is good that you're there yet "man.
You're the only one who stayed bulid the ROMs.
As almost all ROMS from Dark9781, links are dead.
To try the latest ROM do a normal clean version for everyday use, to be able to serve with the device.
All possible ROMs I tried and all use more memory than the official ROM.
Request is then
start top left because all the programs written for it.
thenks

bluetooth AVRCP
I'd love to have Coreplayer recognize avrcp commands so that I can abandon the lame windows media player an dlisten to flacs.

I use the Snapdragon hardware accelerated version of Coreplayer on my own device, but I can't include that in a ROM; Coreplayer is commercial software.

In that I am not sure.
Well TitaniumUI is included in Windows Mobile 6.5+ by default. It doesn't take up any RAM if you don't use it. Simply go to \Settings\Today\Items and uncheck Windows Default.
If you install, this and only this HTC taskmanager.
Because it always works flawlessly
htc_task_2.1.cab
link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4924380&postcount=1
And then this program:
MMAppLauncher v1.0.CAB
link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795393
start with windows
override start meny
You get 7-10 mb free memory.
The biggest problem is that this program was never completed and make a shortcut for the camera so that you can not start the camera without problems.

Well I have great news.
I have been able to figure out how to build ROMs using the newer style ROMs from LG.
This means that I can use the OEMDrivers from the GW825V and GW820_V10g.
It also means I can build ROMs for the GW825V.
I'm just working on a test ROM that I can post to see if it works for everyone.

Of course that it appears to try as soon as possible.
Because this is a totally useless device!
On t-mobile, can not even mms!!
Has little to, no longer working link to dragonstorm roms.
All the other ones are full of bugs, or use lots of memory to
slow machine.
ROM from AT & T has too many programs that no one will ever use.
So a nice little handy device and fast or should be.
When with task manager FdcSoft v3.3 stop all unnecessary processes, it works most quickly as well as HD2.
Only GAPI drivers are slow as the HTC Wizard or worse.
example:
GAPIBench 1.5-arm on the float test Topaz 1.6800
On the IQ 0.6900
Very gladly start up left.
Because lots and lots of programs simply will not work otherwise inc beautiful program Total Commander.

great news trueg. Look forward to testing it out!

OK, here is the first test.
I'm not sure in what format you guys want these distributed.
I simply zipped up my LGMOBILEAX folder and uploaded it to MediaFire.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ibkzdxnlp5h8umu/LG_Monaco_Test01.zip
In Windows XP, you would simply extract this to
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\
For Windows 7, extract here...
C:\Users\All Users\
I use 7-zip...
http://www.7-zip.org/
Then run
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\LGMOBILEAX\SmartPhoneSetup\SP_Starter.exe
If you are running a stock ROM, the application should automatically reboot your phone into emergency mode and start flashing.
If it doesn't (gives error that it can't detect phone), you will need to reset your phone manually and hold down the space button on the keyboard to enter emergency mode.
This ROM should work on GW820, GW825 and GW825V (all LG Monaco devices).
The OEMDrivers are based off of the GW825V. The rest is almost directly from GW820_v10g (AT&T).
Since this is just a test I didn't make many changes.
Please let me know if this works and if there are any problems.
If it works, I will use this as a base for the 6.5 ROM.
The reason I used the GW825V OEMDrivers is because it provides more RAM and storage (take a look at the Memory).
TrueG

Downloading it now...
What sys build is this based on?