Ringtones - KIN Two Software Development

You can MMS an audio and save as a ringtone, but I'm having trouble with mp3 and wma..
# What are the supported ringtone formats?
WARNING: Once you save a ringtone, you cannot delete it!!

You can delete ringtones.... You just have to reset.

lol thanks..
I've tried mp3, wma, wav, ogg, still can't save any..
Am I doing something wrong? Been trying all the free online MMS sites..

greenlndr said:
lol thanks..
I've tried mp3, wma, wav, ogg, still can't save any..
Am I doing something wrong? Been trying all the free online MMS sites..
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Those online "free" MMS sites aren't actually free. You still pay for receiving the MMS/SMS.
Try sending from another cellphone.

Antonpup said:
Those online "free" MMS sites aren't actually free. You still pay for receiving the MMS/SMS.
Try sending from another cellphone.
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Alternatively you can send an email with the file attached to [email protected] but remember that there is a limit to the file size.

dezgrz said:
Alternatively you can send an email with the file attached to [email protected] but remember that there is a limit to the file size.
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Mm, doesn't work for me. Email sends fine but nothing happens.
Don't have another phone to send from.

sometimes you need to turn the device on then off for it to save the ring tone and the file format you need is a .MID
myxer.com is a pretty decent site.

Try phonezoo.com
I've used that site on multiple devices and it works fine with the Kin 2m. It saves the ringtones as "unknown" so you can't save more than one ringtone at a time, but its better then nothing. Its free btw.

Iggy95 said:
Try phonezoo.com
I've used that site on multiple devices and it works fine with the Kin 2m. It saves the ringtones as "unknown" so you can't save more than one ringtone at a time, but its better then nothing. Its free btw.
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myxer.com works on the Kin TwoM and it'll save the ringtone as what you name it as. For example, if you label it Ring - Tone, you'll see it like that in your ringtones in a slightly different font than the standard.

Thank you! ^_^ Myxer does a 40 second cut, while phonezoo has a 20 second cut.

Just a thought on ringtones. I put my first custom ringtone on my phone (sent it from my wife's old phone) and found the music quality was poor compared to the old phone. The file is a MIDI file, so that might have something to do with it.
Since we can't delete ringtones, I would suggest using the same test filename for every ringtone you want to "test" on your phone to see if it works or not. Once you're satisfied with the quality/volume/length of it, then change the filename and send it again, to make it a permanent tone on your phone.
From my understanding, MP3 and MIDI files work. I don't know about other file types, but if an MP3 isn't working, then use something like Audacity to chop it down to a 20-30 second clip.

Does anyone have a mp3 to mid converter that I can use?

Blackhawk199666 said:
Does anyone have a mp3 to mid converter that I can use?
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No, it's not possible, as MIDI files don't use the same structure as an MP3 file. You're better off looking online for a MIDI version of the song you want (someone else spent the time creating it) or just use an MP3 file.

dezgrz said:
Alternatively you can send an email with the file attached to [email protected] but remember that there is a limit to the file size.
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That won't work. The email isn't correct. It's supposed to be [email protected]. (not vzwPICS). And the file size limit is 500 KB.

Verizon Ringtone Audio File Format
Verizon supports the Qualcomm QCELP (.qcp) file format for ringtones. The sound quality is horrible, but it works. The KIN allows you to save MMS-attached .qcp files directly as a ringtone.
I can't find a codec for this format, but there is a free web site made specifically for ringtone conversion at makeownringtone.com (used to be "ringtuna.com", which unfortunately got purloined by a domain squatter).

gsearle said:
Verizon supports the Qualcomm QCELP (.qcp) file format for ringtones. The sound quality is horrible, but it works. The KIN allows you to save MMS-attached .qcp files directly as a ringtone.
I can't find a codec for this format, but there is a free web site made specifically for ringtone conversion at makeownringtone.com (used to be "ringtuna.com", which unfortunately got purloined by a domain squatter).
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The Kin supports MP3 ringtones as well, doesn't it?

codymws said:
The Kin supports MP3 ringtones as well, doesn't it?
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Yes, officially it supports MIDI, MP3, and QCP. I've only tried MIDI and MP3 on mine. MIDI is really tinny sounding, compared to my old Moto e815 phone. And the MP3 files, the only way I've found to get them on the phone is through MMS from another phone. I tried multiple "send a ringtone to your phone" sites, but Verizon stripped the file from the message upon delivery. I had to reactivate my old phone on another number and message it to myself, to get it.
From my understanding, Verizon's site allows you to upload and send MIDI and QCP files to your phone, from their site. I haven't tried it yet, since I have not been able to get a QCP file that sounds decent, and the MIDI files I have don't sound good in my tests.
(if you want a decent program for converting to QCP, look for QCP Converter by D.R Software. I used version 8.05 and it was okay, but I think it had a limit on the number it converts before you register/pay for it. If you have access to a virtual machine, snapshots before converting are your friend.)

klamation said:
Yes, officially it supports MIDI, MP3, and QCP. I've only tried MIDI and MP3 on mine. MIDI is really tinny sounding, compared to my old Moto e815 phone. And the MP3 files, the only way I've found to get them on the phone is through MMS from another phone. I tried multiple "send a ringtone to your phone" sites, but Verizon stripped the file from the message upon delivery. I had to reactivate my old phone on another number and message it to myself, to get it.
From my understanding, Verizon's site allows you to upload and send MIDI and QCP files to your phone, from their site. I haven't tried it yet, since I have not been able to get a QCP file that sounds decent, and the MIDI files I have don't sound good in my tests.
(if you want a decent program for converting to QCP, look for QCP Converter by D.R Software. I used version 8.05 and it was okay, but I think it had a limit on the number it converts before you register/pay for it. If you have access to a virtual machine, snapshots before converting are your friend.)
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Have you tried emailing the MP3 file to [email protected]? That seems to work for me.

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mp3 file as ringtone

I have tried this several times, even contacted orange, but am now getting conflicting information
The manual says mp3 files can be used as a ringtone
orange then advised me to move the files into the /rings folder
However, the device cannot recognise them
I've now been told by orange the device does not support mp3 files at all!
I then told them that I can play them in Windows Media Player and was told the device shouldn't be able...
Any ideas?
Try the attached file; works for me on my SX66.
How is this installed, and into which folder(s) on the Pocket PC?
just move into any folder...and...tap on it.. it'll automatically install...
just as simple as 1-2-3...
Tried that, no change...
I have a file called bigbrother.mp3 in windows/rings folder, but this is not being recognised
If I move any other type of file (.mid .wav) into this folder, then I can set those as ringtone
I can also setup any other ringtones from the start/settings/system/add ring tones
What next?
WAV ringtones...
Hi! I also had issues getting an MP3 to play as a ringtone... Not sure if it was due to the file size or the file type.
My work around was to use a tool to slice and dice the file to
1. Make the ringtone duration 20 seconds
2. Convert the file to WAV
3. Increase the gain so the ringtone is louder than original
There are tons of free applications to do this... I usually download todays' most popular from http://www.download.com ...
Enjoy!
Hi There,
Try renaming bigbrother.mp3 to a smaller name i.e big.mp3
I had an MP3 that wouldn't display in the list until I renamed it to a smaller name, then it became available and worked succintly.
let us know how you get on
Terry
No, no change
I was wondering of the file is too large, so uploaded a smaller one at 0.9MB, but this too was not recognised
The only conclusion I can come to is the orange SPV M2000 (QTEK 9090) does not support mp3 files as ring tones, only mid and wav
That still doesn't match the manual though (clearly states "use mp3 files as ring tones")
Update to latest rom (1.40.00 ?) That should fix it - I had the same problem - updated rom & voila
I've tried the latest orange ROM 1.40 and as really unstable and went back to ROM 1.31
I'll try again and see if there is any change
If you convert a MP3 file to Wav or WMA, then you would be able to set it as a ringtone (by right clicking it in your phone).
WMA is comparitively smaller than WAV, so I personally recommend WMA. I am converting files from ""Microsoft Digital Media Edition""Audio Converter" http://www.microsoft.com/windows/plus/dme/Music.asp#audio.
Cheers
Sidd
Just upgrade. This is an issue solved long ago. Newer ROMs are more stable, just get used to them
after you have your file in the phone, make sure you put it in mydocuments/my music folder on MAIN MEMORY, then go to file explorer and find it, hold down the stylus on the song mp3,wma,midi you want and there will be an option to set it as ringtone.
easiest way to do it..
anyway now that this has been answered, i keep a 2gb minisd card full of mp3s on my phone and i need an app that will let me cut a small (30 - 60 sec) clip .mp3 and be able to send it via bluetooth, it doesnt have the option to beam built-in but it would be easier. does anyone know of such a program? (for the phone not for a PC)
again sorry for the thread hijack, theres just no need to create a new one.
I've updated the ROM to the latest version from orange
The ringtones are still in the correct folder
Also tried right click and set to ringtone
Still no change, none of the mp3 files are recognised
It does look as if it is a misprint then in the orange handbook
Note this is an orange SPV M2000
Found out why I had previously downgraded to an old orange ROM
The one (currently) on the orange website is faulty when used with the camera... and causes an internal error
Works perfectly on my i-mate jam
Ya, it not work on M2000/O2.
I think ,this causes the system do no identify MP3 type(you can see the
files property).
Please change .mp3 type to WMa or WAV, then you can enjoy.
doesntwork on my xda 2... i got set it as a ring tone, click it , then nothing else happens :O/
This can be caused if a third party app takes control of the .mp3 extension. I installed a media player and it took .mp3 control away from WMP10. in order for your phone to use mp3 as ringtone it has to be associated with WMP. I had to use pocket tweak to re-associate mp3 to WMP. and this cleared my issue.
ooh, i think i have pocket tweak somewhere, makes me so irrate when other phones less complex can use mp3 ringtones with no fuss and bother. infact this phones annoying ime more and more , its so faddy!

Phone calls 2 way record... FREEWARE

May be it is a well known appz, but I found it great: two way recording and managing phone calls on excalibur, I've also found a converter to save and store on PC, in ordered folders or by name
http://www.1800message.com/ to download the Excalibur version
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=235286&view=findpost&p=736587
To have it converted in .wav file and stored
sergiopi said:
May be it is a well known appz, but I found it great: two way recording and managing phone calls on excalibur, I've also found a converter to save and store on PC, in ordered folders or by name
http://www.1800message.com/ to download the Excalibur version
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=235286&view=findpost&p=736587
To have it converted in .wav file and stored
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It doesn't seem to record the other party very well.
In my experience the other party volume is low but clear, and is easy to increase it, when converted into wave, with any freeware tool to manage .wav file

no MP3 ringtones sound

I downloaded some ringtones as mp3 or mp4 but no sound when selected as ringtones. It works if I select it to play in windows media player.
I have 3VO series rom on WM6.5.
check your settings, and make sure you have the ringer on loud and your system all the way up on the slide. hopefully this works.
i was using ringtones downloaded from myxer and they were in mp3d format and would never work. so now i just cut my own songs and make my own shortened mp3's and they work fine everytime.
check the file format on your computer and see what they are.
ignore what i said earlier it is invalid. my problem stemmed from the newest 3vo rom. dont know how to work it out.
purplemonkey0 said:
I downloaded some ringtones as mp3 or mp4 but no sound when selected as ringtones. It works if I select it to play in windows media player.
I have 3VO series rom on WM6.5.
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Are the files you are trying to use high-quality, or better quality? If so, then try to use ones of lesser quality, since you don't need a HQ sound coming from your cell phone on RING...chances are that loading up that sound (if it is of a higher quality) takes up a decent amount of processing power/RAM, that at one point it just can't process the ring anymore.
I am using the 3vo 2.5 as well...if you want to send me the file, i can see if i figure out what the problem is...(you can email me it, just click my name and send me an email)

Some WMA Files Won't Work As Ringtones

I have a lot of WMA and WAV files that WM6 refuses to use as ringtones, even when copied to Windows or Windows/rings. They also won't play on WMP or GSplayer. But they play fine with various PC players.
I suspect this is something simple, but searching Google for half an hour didn't find it.
Check the bitrate I think 190 is the limit.
AngelDeath said:
Check the bitrate I think 190 is the limit.
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Thanks. I tried to look at the bit rate, but the one program I have that does that returns:
Bitrate: N/A
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which doesn't help.
Any suggestions for determining the bitrate, and if that is the problem, for converting it in a batch of files?
Goldwave is what I use. http://www.goldwave.com/
I also marked my song clip as "Ring-put song name here.wma"
As such the great Phineas and Ferb classic, My Name Is Doof, is now my general ringtone. It was set at 44100Mz, 129kbps, stereo via Goldwave conversion. Mine looks like this "Ring-MyNameIsDoof.wma".
For alarms, I have 2 sound bites...named "Alarm-Reveille.wav" and "Alarm-Mahna Mahna.wav".
Drop them into windows and you should be good. Hope this helps.
I found a way to look at the bitrates, and they range from 16 to 64kbps. The frequencies look to be either 22050 or 41000Hz.
Does the last post imply that I need to make the bitrates higher?
Convert them to MP3, it will make your life simpler.
I try some as a test, but I'm under the impression that MP3s are larger and "lossier".
They aren't DRM-protected WMA files are they? That would be a reason that WMP wouldn't play them either. I had that issue with a bunch of songs purchased legally from Musicmatch. When Yahoo bought Musicmatch they shut down the DRM servers and the songs became useless. Converting to MP3 is probably the easiest solution.
No DRM involved.
slight22 said:
Convert them to MP3, it will make your life simpler.
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Thanks for the tip. I didn't know that WM6 could use MP3s as ringtones.
As for WAVs and WMAs, there seems to be a "signed" attribute which I can't find documentation for. Since the one I have problems with were mostly converted from MIDI files, I assume they are unsigned.

[HACK]Use each music and each audio format with each size as Ringtone , Alert , Alarm

Hey guys
I finally found : Use .m4a , .wma , .wav and .mp3 formats as Alarm, Alert, Ringtone ((without size and length limitations))
without changing the audio name for example: Alert-01.wma or .....
first copy/paste your favorite(s) music(s) to \windows folder.
ok go [HKCU/ControlPanel/Sounds/
OEMNotifications <------------<< for Alerts
OEMAlarms <------------------<< for Alarms
OEMRingtones] <--------------<< for ringtones and Alarms
in these 3 folders add "new value" and then :
Value Name: name.mp3 or name.wav or name.wma << name=name of your audio file that pasted in WINDOWS folder.
Value Data: enter a name for your audio that you want be shown.
Value Type: String
then click "ok" to set it and go to Setting>ringtones+sounds and see
I tested with .aac , .amr , .m4a , .ac3 , .aiff , .flac , .mka , .mp2 and .ogg formats but just .m4a worked as SMS Alert.
I try it to add a small .mp4 video as ringtone but did not work.
I think if we can add more formats for Ringtones Category it will be possible to have video as ringtone.
IMPORTANT: If you use a long music as sms alert you would not be able to stop playing it, so you must shutdown your phone.
do not forget THANKS
Great!
A big-big thank you for this!
I don't know how did you find this out, but this is great!
I always had to rewrite the notification sounds in the registry after changing the ringtone, they somehow it got resetted to none after, but now this problem is gone.
I can change notification sounds and ringtones like it was factory implanted.
Thank a lot!
cheers and Happy New Year to you!
PS.: If you could find the reg key to stop converting down the resolution of pictures attached to an e-mail, you'll be a HERO.
wait, FLAC?
Obviously, the phone can't magically transcode every format. The advantage of this approach (over the official way to install ringtones) is that you can use any format that the phone supports, instead of just a subset of them.
So no, you probably can't use FLAC. I honestly don't know why you'd want to, given the speaker quality of the phone, but you can use any file that the phone could play through its media player, for example (includes AAC/M4A, for example, which I don't think is normally allowed for ringtones).
Snake. said:
wait, FLAC?
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FLAC
Free Lossless Audio Codec.The highest quality in music/sound.
I think using mp3 as a ringtone is more than enough.
Hey guys
Thanks.
I'm not expert. I just tried all formats to see is it possible or not to complete my theory.
I have an audio converter and I tried this method for all formats that was known as audio ,but with these 4 formats and even with the most popular format .mp3 we got it.
It was one of main favorites that all of us needed and now it is possible.
I am so happy.
I wish everyone enjoy.
Sorry for my bad english.
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wait, FLAC?
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yes .flac was an audio format that I saw yesterday for first time in an audio converter.
Ttblondey said:
FLAC
Free Lossless Audio Codec.The highest quality in music/sound.
I think using mp3 as a ringtone is more than enough.
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yes really, mp3 is enough.
arses said:
yes .flac was an audio format that I saw yesterday for first time in an audio converter.
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wait till you hear the sound quality.I prefer FLAC or atleast Lossless but it consumes alot of mb for each song.
Im gonna try adding some other stuff using this method ,just adding files to the windows folder and proting to the corresponding path in the registry ,should be interesting!
i am new to registry editor i dont know how to copy paste songs to Windows folder
can someone explain from which folder i can find the songs...
i am noob here please help me.
thanks
Hi
I tried to add a folder containing alerts using WPDM to windows folder but did not work.
neptunex3 said:
i am new to registry editor i dont know how to copy paste songs to Windows folder
can someone explain from which folder i can find the songs...
i am noob here please help me.
thanks
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Hi
You can copy and paste your audio files using Windows Phone Device Manager or File Explorer installed on your device.
For these actions your device must be full unlocked.
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Hi
l deleted this post because it was a stupid mistake.
I want say excuse me for this mistake.
All audio files must be in windows folder.
Sorry and sorry and sorry.
arses said:
Hi
If you want add SMS Alerts to your device easily and without replacing them to WINDOWS folder :
Just sync them via zune as ringtone then go:
[HKCU/ControlPanel/Sounds/CustomRingtones]
they must be there. ( I suggest you for simplify your action and name your Alerts to: sms1, sms2,....)
In the path you must see your audio files with their name. OK
now remember their VALUE NAME (example : 8d.mp3) and go to
[HKCU/ControlPanel/Sounds/OEMNotifications]
In the new value you want to add, in VALUE NAME type exact value name shown in CustomRingtones and press ok. done
Note: every audio files that sync as RINGTONE via Zune are not required to move to Windows folder.
again sorry for my bad english .
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Works with Alarm ?? .. or i must copy my mp3 file in Windows folder if i want change my alarm ?
Hi
Yes it works but you know well that when you want to add audio files as ringtone via zune it must be smaller than 1MB.
Therefore if you want to use a fav music az alarm you can sync it as music and move it to Windows folder by FileExplorer.
If somebody could change the Zune limitations for ringtones via registry on PC all of our problem would be solved.
Still not working for me. Anyone else having issues with the alert tones not showing up?
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Still not working for me. Anyone else having issues with the alert tones not showing up?
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Hi
Please send some shots of your work exactly like the photos I uploaded in the first post.
I solve your problem.
Hi
If you have sms alerts please upload here.
I will make a pack and I'll put them in first post.
Thanks
dendenmushi
here is a link from box.net with two sms alert based on denden mushi by One Piece anime
i love this as sms tone, so please add one of these to the pack
thanks in advance
ps
i have edited the registry but still cannot view the new sms tones on the list (and on custom ringtones values i cannot see any m4a, only mp3)

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