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Hi,
Im nog allowed to post this link in the development section, so im sorry if its wrong here. Can anyone tell me the differences between the CM7 rom and the oxygen rom? What are the pro's and con's of each rom? Tried a lot of google searches, but couldnt find it.
Patrick
still_the_same said:
Hi,
Im nog allowed to post this link in the development section, so im sorry if its wrong here. Can anyone tell me the differences between the CM7 rom and the oxygen rom? What are the pro's and con's of each rom? Tried a lot of google searches, but couldnt find it.
Patrick
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Depends if you want a technical explanation or simple?
As simple as it gets.. Nothing!
They are both GREAT Rom's by GREAT developers. However, they are also BOTH in "pre-stable" release status. This doesnt mean they arent stable, actually they are both insanely stable. It just means neither is a "Final Product"
Both share most of the same basic features and neither really has a downside or drawbacks.. it's all personal preference. I LOVED Oxygen when I was running it, but for me, the new features/tweaks/bugfixes of the CM7 nightlies just drew me in
Both have their own HBOOT, both support A2SD (though Cm7 is a seperate flashable zip) and both have a pretty stable following as far as theme support..
It really just comes down to you.. read through the threads/changelogs and see if one draws your attention more than the other.. remember, once you are rooted, it only takes a minute or two to flash a new ROM.. if you dont like the one you choose, try the other.
I find that CM7 actually works. I can't get Oxygen to install at all. The download messes up so the md5 is a mismatch and as such, when installed it doesn't. Just returns a bad request. But as mikeandjaimie said, there are very little differences. To be honest, you can't get someone to tell you what is better or not. It is down to you. Your own preference. Try them both out for a little bit and see which you like.
I've tried both over the last week (tried GingerVillain too) and I prefer Oxygen out of the 2 you mentioned. it's very basic, but I really like it. only had a problem with the Launcher Pro calendar widget, but everything else works fine. On CM I had some bad battery drain, but other people like it.
I actually managed to get Oxygen to work today and I am testing it a bit. Obviously there are still going to be bugs around but it's pretty stable. Oxygen is minimal. It uses the default Android launcher whereas CM7 uses ADWLauncher. I can't really tell the difference between them both really. Like I said above it is down to preference. There are no real differences at all.
mikeandjaimie said:
Both share most of the same basic features and neither really has a downside or drawbacks.. it's all personal preference. I LOVED Oxygen when I was running it, but for me, the new features/tweaks/bugfixes of the CM7 nightlies just drew me in
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What features do you prefer in CM7 as opposed to oxygen?
...just interested
Well I haven't used oxygen in a bit, but they hadn't added any of the CM specific tweaks and features yet.. mostly stuff like gestures, etc.
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CM patches are used for pretty much everything in Oxygen, so most features are alike. I like both, but prefer bleeding edge so CM nightlies FTW
Sent from a piece of ginger bread... Now with a little cyan tint
I have never used oxygen roms but its my first time to cyanogenmod 7 roms ever and I can say I am more then happy, I am have been using the first build nightly for well over a week now and its been absolutely fine, the only thing that does not work is video recording which but everyone is pre-warned about that until the nexus one files get dropped in.
Just flashed to 24th Feb nightly and still no hiccups, not getting the battery drain issues like people are posting, but there is no noticeable decrease or increase for me compared to the previous O2 branded froyo build.
what about ginger villain?
Haven't used CM7, but if you want a fast and lightweight ROM with excellent battery life (see the battery saving mods) then you cannot go wrong with Oxygen
Moreover,tt looks like now that the nexus one OTA has been extracted we will see a stable version of Oxygen very soon, so the problems with the Camcorder on RC7 (the dev didn't want any hacks in the ROM since he wanted it to be as stable as possible) will be ironed out!
Do both these have Bluetooth gamepad support
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would love to see some posts with info about what made someone to move from one mod to another
(just a bump)
I loved Oxygen, loved it. Very fast and minimal allowing me to add to it the way I see fit, the way it should be really. Problem was I was one of the few that experienced bootloops constantly. On average once a day. Sometimes it would go into a boot loop at idle, and I wouldn't notice for over an hour, and by the time I got it back on, the screen being on and displaying the boot animation had drained some serious battery.
So I tried Ginger Villian, I had the same issue with bootloops, so I tried redux. I was quite happy with it, except it didn't work as a phone. It dropped calls every few minutes to multiple numbers, and it refused to send or recieve mms (Yes I checked the APNs). That's when I decided to try CM7, and found that it just works for me where the others didn't. Yes it's a little more heavily featured than I would like, yes it can be a bit laggy and slow every now and then, but it's the stability and reliability that keeps me here for the moment.
I wasn't S-Off when running Oxygen though, so I will delete the ext partition on my SD card and reinstall Oxygen with the oxygen hboot to see if maybe it makes a difference. Something must, there's a lot of people out there claiming to have never had a boot loop, though I would miss the T-Mobile theme enginge that CM7 ships with.
Probably more than you wanted to hear, but that's basically what made me jump from Oxygen to CM.
i really love a stable rom. that's why i prefer cyanogen and used cm6 for a long time. but i also want the latest android version. that's why i use oxygen at the moment until cm7 becomes "FINAL".
the most important thing about cm is that they do not modify the rom all the time. they create a rom, they test it as beta/rc (ONLY for bugfixing - no new (maybe buggy) features all the time) and one day you get a final rom which is no longer changed and STABLE.
I used CM6.1 for quite some time, I love AOSP ROMs, Ultralinx persuaded me to try Oxygen RC2 and I changed HBOOT to go with it. I love the minimalist, hack free aspect of the ROM. And because Oxygen 2.0.1 is so stable and lightweight, and that I can't be bothered to change HBOOT again I think I am going to stick with Oxygen until I am due to upgrade phones.
I used Oxygen since I first rooted, it was a froyo rom, but I used it all the way up to the most recent version. Today I tried cyanogenmod, just to see what differences (if any) there were.
So far, I've noticed the for a2sd+ on cm, you need to flash an additional script. But the main benefit of cm is that I can, for the first time since rooting, send mms again. I could receive them on oxygen no problem, but couldn't for the life send them. Definite benefit for me there.
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I used Oxygen since I first rooted, it was a froyo rom, but I used it all the way up to the most recent version. Today I tried cyanogenmod, just to see what differences (if any) there were.
So far, I've noticed the for a2sd+ on cm, you need to flash an additional script. But the main benefit of cm is that I can, for the first time since rooting, send mms again. I could receive them on oxygen no problem, but couldn't for the life send them. Definite benefit for me there.
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Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks
xziaz said:
Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks
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Less than a minute of searching:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10675412&postcount=2
xziaz said:
Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks
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If you haven't moved your dalvik cache to SD then your internal memory will decrease. Dalvik takes up so much storage space.
Hello All,
I been a rooted HTC Desire user for quite sometime and my missus dislikes this very much because every month I will be stuck at my computer searching the XDA forum for my ideal ROM.
I know it is all down to personal preference and I have done a fair bit of searching before starting my own thread. (Also I have less than 10 posts so its a good start)
What I want in a ROM is fast and smooth as a prio.
Good battery usage and Stable.
Possibility to use a ext3/4 partition.
Not so import:
I love the ICS look and launcher but having used ADW Launcher and GoLauncher I prefer to just have a launcher built into a ROM. This made me find MildWild 4.3 and 5.0
I been using Oxygen 2.3.2 for quite sometime at the moment and never really had any problem apart from the very occasional soft reboot (Where the home screen reloads and welcome message appears)
So I tried MildWild 4.3 based on Oxy which so many people praised where the first thing I did was go into Spare Parts viewed battery history and BAM, Force Closes. So tried a full wipe but this still kept happening.
So I tried 5.0 but for some other reason that I cannot recall I was not getting a long with this (I think the lack of T9)
So yeah, what do people think would be ideal for me? I been watching Sandvolds work for sometime and even used the ICS rom but I would prefer a fully stable ROM that I can use day to day and take pictures of my family.
Sorry for the wall of text but hopefully people can give me their opinions. :highfive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899654
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904496
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628
Thank you for taking your time getting those links abaaaabbbb63
Just flashed MW 5.0, nice performance so far. Only thing that crashed was the Cynogen mod settings but I presume that is because it was modified by MildWild.
I'm starting to regret the day I made my username.. people calling me Abaaaabbbb...
Anyways, your welcome.
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Thank you for taking your time getting those links abaaaabbbb63
Just flashed MW 5.0, nice performance so far. Only thing that crashed was the Cynogen mod settings but I presume that is because it was modified by MildWild.
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The cyanogenmod settings under settings? It shouldn't crash
The battery tap under spare parts, yes, it crashed on mine also and crashes on some roms. So not to worry there
Sorry about replying, I know it's been answered but just clearing that up
No, the Cyanogenmod settings are great, always have been when I using CM7.1
But when you dive right in under the System and Update Notifications, but when I looked in the development thread it seems MW stripped out that feature
Didn't need it anyway.
Thanks for posting!
Yea..happens to everyone.
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yea...my username sucks...deal with it...
Hello!
I have noticed a weird bug with my phone - phone will go unresponsive after day or so of work. Sometimes the screen will lit, but the phone will be VERY slow, to the state of being unusable. Sometimes the display will not even turno on when I press the power button. Anyway, I have to remove the battery to restart it.
Last time I saw such behaviour, it was my Kindle3, and it was weird power drain issue.
Has anyone had this issue before? I searched the ROM threads and nothing. The phone was bought and used in Europe (BG).This phone is more than 2 years old , hardware problem is a possibility, too
Please report if you know something. Advice me how to log these issues, too?
In general the phone becomes like that when free RAM goes below 80 MB. I've seen this on many AOSP ROMs like you said. I don't remember if it happens on Sense ROMs too, but Sense is quite slow anyway. I usually fix it by clearing out all apps in the Recent apps list.
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Any automated solution to it, then?
I mean, something like close all running user apps, clear cash and RAM and so on. I know that task killers claim to do it, but they are more trouble than help!
Can anyone suggest something tired and working? I cant upgrade to 4.1 cos I need BT
Not that I know of. You can try enabling 'Don't keep activities' in Settings>Developer options. That will leave your RAM free, but it'll take longer for each app to open because it clears it from RAM each time you exit the app. So it'll affect multitasking too. Alternatively, you can try to reduce the number of background processes in the corresponding option. In my opinion none of these solutions are worth it. Just swipe away all the recent apps whenever your phone slows down.
You can use the codefireX 4.1.2 periodicals if you want a fully working 4.1 JB ROM. Development has stopped for it because the dev synergye is now developing 4.2.1, but the last SR5 version is very stable, and everything works including Bluetooth. You can even enable a 'kill all' button in the recent apps panel to clear all the apps at once.
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Not that I know of. You can try enabling 'Don't keep activities' in Settings>Developer options. That will leave your RAM free, but it'll take longer for each app to open because it clears it from RAM each time you exit the app. So it'll affect multitasking too. Alternatively, you can try to reduce the number of background processes in the corresponding option. In my opinion none of these solutions are worth it. Just swipe away all the recent apps whenever your phone slows down.
You can use the codefireX 4.1.2 periodicals if you want a fully working 4.1 JB ROM. Development has stopped for it because the dev synergye is now developing 4.2.1, but the last SR5 version is very stable, and everything works including Bluetooth. You can even enable a 'kill all' button in the recent apps panel to clear all the apps at once.
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4.1.2 has an issue with the speaker phone. I usually have to drive around the city and have to talk during that time, so I rely on BT and speakerphone. I will limit the number of processes and give it a try. If everything else fails, I can go back to CNM7(UGLY!! but STABLE!!!), and wait for BT to be fixed.
It seems that the phone will fall back to default option for number of activities kept every time I reboot it, any way to fix that?
Oh yeah it had that issue. You can also try ViperDHD ROM if you're okay with HTC Sense or go back to CM7 like you said.
Another ROM option is aospX from the HTC Inspire 4G forum. It's a great AOSP ICS ROM and BT has no issues on it as far as I know.
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Oh yeah it had that issue. You can also try ViperDHD ROM if you're okay with HTC Sense or go back to CM7 like you said.
Another ROM option is aospX from the HTC Inspire 4G forum. It's a great AOSP ICS ROM and BT has no issues on it as far as I know.
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AOSP 4.0 is not an option, phone going on strike. I love the aospx ROM, but it is kind of annoying to have to restart when you need to call a client or something in a huury
I will try and go de-sense with Viper, probably, not many options left. I am not happy at all with Sense, dont know why I bought OneX anyway. To be honest, if I see press release about Nexus4 32GB I will sell it and keep DHD as a backup. I still have to use two phones for two months, and will sill what will happen. Till then, I will have to bit the bullet and live with either sense or CNM 7
Thank you for the support!!! Have a happy new
PS trying to limit the number of processes does not work
Happy new year to you too.
I've never used the limit number of background processes option before, so no clue about that.
I see in your signature you're waiting for official CyanogenMod (CM is the acronym ) for your One X. It's already there - http://get.cm/?device=endeavoru
Right now there are only nightlies though, but you can still use them as they're quite stable. A milestone release and a stable version should be out soon also. One X is a great phone and works brilliantly with AOSP, except the camera. The Sense camera image quality may be better (don't know till you try, I haven't experimented with it too much). Also, if you do flash CM/any AOSP ROM for your One X, use it with the NCX kernel. I've heard it gives the best battery life.
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Happy new year to you too.
I've never used the limit number of background processes option before, so no clue about that.
I see in your signature you're waiting for official CyanogenMod (CM is the acronym ) for your One X. It's already there - http://get.cm/?device=endeavoru
Right now there are only nightlies though, but you can still use them as they're quite stable. A milestone release and a stable version should be out soon also. One X is a great phone and works brilliantly with AOSP, except the camera. The Sense camera image quality may be better (don't know till you try, I haven't experimented with it too much). Also, if you do flash CM/any AOSP ROM for your One X, use it with the NCX kernel. I've heard it gives the best battery life.
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I will wait till something is marked stable at at least MR I have a phone to trouble my sleep with, and this is the DHD. I need one to be solid as rock. I already have 4.1 on One X, so everything I need to run on it runs, but I have a lot of unneeded HTC stuff under the cover running.
It's a pity that nexus is not around here, and the expected prise is going to be round 550 euro! It is not just overpriced, this is a [email protected]#ing robbery!
I'm really frustrated with my Desire, I been tested differents ROMS in two years, not because I needed new features, but because I only wanted a modern and functionally UI like the one of Android 4.0+, but everytime I got thousands of bugs...not a single ROM was bugfree with the Camera, Videos never really worked and so on.
I can't really stand more this situation, I just want a bugfree OS... should I come back to the Original Sense (sigh...) ROM?
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I'm really frustrated with my Desire, I been tested differents ROMS in two years, not because I needed new features, but because I only wanted a modern and functionally UI like the one of Android 4.0+, but everytime I got thousands of bugs...not a single ROM was bugfree with the Camera, Videos never really worked and so on.
I can't really stand more this situation, I just want a bugfree OS... should I come back to the Original Sense (sigh...) ROM?
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Try mildwild's redux v14 ROM. It's kitkat themed.
It seems a nice ROM, but I'm afraid to do again the same error: install a ROM and then found so many bugs that make everything an awful experience.
I'm pessimistic but I would give a try.
Right now I got the Cyanogenmod (doens't receive an update since months...) and I need to wipe everything. But this time I got problems to get into the Recovery Mode (tested with volume-down button and power button but doesn't work)...how can I do that?
MattSid said:
I'm pessimistic but I would give a try.
Right now I got the Cyanogenmod (doens't receive an update since months...) and I need to wipe everything. But this time I got problems to get into the Recovery Mode (tested with volume-down button and power button but doesn't work)...how can I do that?
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Try power down+ back button, then select bootloader, then recovery.
Mildwild redux v14 doesn't have any known major bugs. Try it, trust me.
The first impression is good, the reaction time is another world in comparison to the Cyanogenmod.
However, I just found a first big problem: I can't log to my Google Account, it puts automatically the @googlemail.com (even if mine is @gmail.com)...I tried to force it with [email protected] and only username + password (double checked) but I still doens't found it correct.
EDIT: fixed http://mattimeo.com/mattimeo/2012/07/android-your-username-and-password-do-not-match-error/
MildWild
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Try power down+ back button, then select bootloader, then recovery.
Mildwild redux v14 doesn't have any known major bugs. Try it, trust me.
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+1 to abaaaabbbb63 suggestion. Besides, MildWild has an Oxygen based ROM which is very light in resources consumption. MildWild 5.0.
Good luck.
I have been tested the ROM for all this time, and I'm really disappointed... the first impression was good, but after some experience I'm again frustraded with the Smartphone. Auch with Mildwild there are all the type of Problems: bugs, screen not responding, error messages, impossibility to answer some call and so and so on...
The everyday use is still a bad experience that I would like to avoid. There's no hope to find a REAL stable Rom or I should really come back to the original from HTC? In this case, what should I expect?
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The lack of response saids it all really. I've been using Mildwild-14 for a month or so and its by far the most stable rom for me.
If you want everything to work you should learn how to cook a rom because you seem not so satisfied about any roms. If you had no problems with the original rom by no means go back to it..
I'm sure original roms have more bugs than custom ones so good luck choosing.
MattSid said:
I have been tested the ROM for all this time, and I'm really disappointed... the first impression was good, but after some experience I'm again frustraded with the Smartphone. Auch with Mildwild there are all the type of Problems: bugs, screen not responding, error messages, impossibility to answer some call and so and so on...
The everyday use is still a bad experience that I would like to avoid. There's no hope to find a REAL stable Rom or I should really come back to the original from HTC? In this case, what should I expect?
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Maybe your Desire just doesn't like custom ROMs. I had one like that. Just return to stock and you should be fine
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MildWild is by far one of the most stable roms you can find for a Desire. I did have a Desire for almost 3years and had this ROM and had absolutely no problems with it.
Sounds like a cliché but make sure you wipe completely everything before installing anything new. Yes there are times when your phone just "jacks off" and it's for absolutely no reason, Desire is a senior, and no longer n.1 smartphone. You got to remember this. If you are experiencing this on a daily basis with many roms and you are totally sure it's not your fault, then it's just your phone. It got old... get rid of it or get used it cheers !
btw. my Desire is still working !
Thanks for all your answers.
Yes, I have done the complete wipe before install any type of ROM, but everytime I got some kind of problems.
I can remember that with the original Sense ROM I didn't got all those type of bugs...but right now I wondering if the new apps still works with the old Android OS. Someone use the Desire with the original ROM right now?
GB AOSP ROMs are generally the most stable for the Desire, so those based on Oxygen rarely if ever had stability issues for me.
Are you using a partition with these ROMs, and how did you create it? Should be done with gparted or 4EXT recovery only (not minitool)
MildWild 14 vs. MildWild 5.0
I have tried every MildWild ROM since I don't remember when.
Recently, I gave MW 14 a try, and it went mostly ok. Only problem? After a while (3 or 4 days), the calls became muted. I mean: I was able to hear the caller, but he/she wasn't able to hear me. A reboot would temporarily fix the problem, but not knowing whether you will be able to answer your next call or not is not something I could stand.
So I went back to MW 5.0. It is sort of an attractor, for me. Every now and then, just for the sake of injecting some innovation into my old desire's veins, I switch to some other ROM. But I always, invariable, after only some days, keep returning to the oxygen-based MW. It is, in my experience, the most stable ROM ever for my device, not to mention that it's very light in resource consumption.
So, MattSid, if you haven't tried MW 5.0, and if you have the patience to try one more ROM, try it.
On the other hand, I believe yours can simply be a perceptual issue. When I buy some new device, I always see it shining, wonderful. Marvelous. Magic. And that memory sticks to my brain, so nothing can compare to it. But if I, trying to be objective and true to myself, compare that to new developments, age shows up. Try you original Sense-based ROM. Perhaps you won't find it as beautiful this time as you recall?
hi, just wondering if there are any roms available that are completely stable and finished for this phone?
if not, (as i have not found any), is the original stock rom (rojers) available to download anymore?
thanks guys..
jmpcrx said:
hi, just wondering if there are any roms available that are completely stable and finished for this phone?
if not, (as i have not found any), is the original stock rom (rojers) available to download anymore?
thanks guys..
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After reading a lot, I believe I can confirm that only GB, and stock ICS are stable, as with no issues, some little glitches but no deal breakers. As for Rogers, there's only Osimod GB ROM based of Rogers. The rest are based of UCLJ3
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After reading a lot, I believe I can confirm that only GB, and stock ICS are stable, as with no issues, some little glitches but no deal breakers. As for Rogers, there's only Osimod GB ROM based of Rogers. The rest are based of UCLJ3
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ok thanks lasuazo ;--)
I guess omni and cm11
jmpcrx said:
hi, just wondering if there are any roms available that are completely stable and finished for this phone?
if not, (as i have not found any), is the original stock rom (rojers) available to download anymore?
thanks guys..
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I may be off base here but I guess the [4.4] cyanogenmod 11 and omni ROM are pretty much stable ...
Though the pretty much is still a while away from complete the following are the general bugs with bubor's amazing Roms:
There is an audio bug when making VoIP calls which gives audio latency ..
There is fixed camera rotation which means all the pictures are in landscape
There is no Wi-Fi direct
Google experience launcher is not that Good looking (I know I am complaining)
Google maps 7 has issues but can be dual loaded with maps 6 so they work
Backlight,PPI, lag all have fixes though
Battery drain is a bit more
But as far as performance goes... They are pretty smooth..
So I guess make your choice
thefusor said:
I may be off base here but I guess the [4.4] cyanogenmod 11 and omni ROM are pretty much stable ...
Though the pretty much is still a while away from complete the following are the general bugs with bubor's amazing Roms:
There is an audio bug when making VoIP calls which gives audio latency ..
There is fixed camera rotation which means all the pictures are in landscape
There is no Wi-Fi direct
Google experience launcher is not that Good looking (I know I am complaining)
Google maps 7 has issues but can be dual loaded with maps 6 so they work
Backlight,PPI, lag all have fixes though
Battery drain is a bit more
But as far as performance goes... They are pretty smooth..
So I guess make your choice
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i wish i could agree with you.. im running kitkat crdroid, and like every rom i have flashed over the years, has plenty of bugs that make it very annoying as a daily rom. phone switching off twice a day, icons/widgets dissapearing after rebooting, becomes laggy after a week or so of usig the rom, laggy browsing on all browsers, trebucket crashing regurly etc etc, thats on top of the bugs you list.. the only roms that are stable are completely finished official cm or miui roms (which there are none for this fone..). the stock rom is the only one that has not given me trouble. with the greatest respect to those that put their time i to make these roms, im sure people who flash them make them out to be more stable than they really are unfortunatelly.
Maybe we have developer aura or something like that? I'm sure I just used 4.4 PAC ROM for a week without reboot or any crashes. Bluetooth, fixed camera rotation and VoIP - yes, these are issues we can't fix, the same is with google maps v.7 (we just have no hardware NEON support that uses v.7 of maps). There is also issue with wi-fi: if you turn it off, it sometimes don't turns on until reboot. As for myself, I just never turn it off.
Besides of these issues, everything is smooth and stable. Really is. But I got sometimes trebuchet crashes - this was a time when I flashed dirty and didn't make a factory reset - the new trebuchet version sometimes conflicts with the data from old version. I just went to Settings - Apps, found Trebuchet (or Launcher3 if old version) and tapped Erase Data. And the issue was gone! But I recommend to always make a factory reset with new ROM. That's really important.
And even if you have those constant trebuchet bugs whatever you do (icons disappearing is also a trebuchet bug, I never encountered it though), just install a different launcher. Google now launcher is the basic, and is like trebuchet in many ways, miui one is also good, and others, they are many!
I had problems with some icons disappearing when the system reboots. I found that the icons that disappeared were for applications which were installed on the SD card. When I moved them to the system, they stopped disappearing.
Makshow said:
Maybe we have developer aura or something like that? I'm sure I just used 4.4 PAC ROM for a week without reboot or any crashes. Bluetooth, fixed camera rotation and VoIP - yes, these are issues we can't fix, the same is with google maps v.7 (we just have no hardware NEON support that uses v.7 of maps). There is also issue with wi-fi: if you turn it off, it sometimes don't turns on until reboot. As for myself, I just never turn it off.
Besides of these issues, everything is smooth and stable. Really is. But I got sometimes trebuchet crashes - this was a time when I flashed dirty and didn't make a factory reset - the new trebuchet version sometimes conflicts with the data from old version. I just went to Settings - Apps, found Trebuchet (or Launcher3 if old version) and tapped Erase Data. And the issue was gone! But I recommend to always make a factory reset with new ROM. That's really important.
And even if you have those constant trebuchet bugs whatever you do (icons disappearing is also a trebuchet bug, I never encountered it though), just install a different launcher. Google now launcher is the basic, and is like trebuchet in many ways, miui one is also good, and others, they are many!
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like i said in my first post, i do really appriciate the fact that people spend Alot of time cooking theese roms, and it easy for me to come along and moan about them, but i have found over the years that after using a custom rom for a couple of weeks or so, its like the ram seems to gradually get eaten away, the device gradually slows down, becomes laggy and ultimately unuseable (not just this fone, and not just me that says this). im not saying all are like this, just many i have used, mainly because they never get finished.
i am very open though to people suggesting that i am doing something wrong, and maybe you have picked up on that something.. you say you do a factory reset, can i ask, do you mean a factory reset in the fone settings, or are you referring to a full wipe using cwm/twrp? as when i flash, i wipe everything accept what i dont want wiped on the external sd.. i dont factory reset, is this after you have flashed the new rom? or before you flash a new rom?
also thank you for the erase data tip for trebucket, i will try that.. i have not used the google now launcher yet, but i tried using miui launcher but when i went back to trebucket the lockscreen stayed as the miui lockscreen, which has happened on past cm roms, so i just deleted it.
just gets a bit frustrating when you spend hours getting everything working/setting up personalisation, then the phone just seems to start getting worse day by day, but maybe like you say, its cos i "dirty flashed"?
linuxguy42 said:
I had problems with some icons disappearing when the system reboots. I found that the icons that disappeared were for applications which were installed on the SD card. When I moved them to the system, they stopped disappearing.
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i did think that, and im sure you are right, but i have had every app/folder/widget dissappear twice now, then, randomly over several restarts, some widgets/apps will replace themselves over the top of the new ones i have just newly placed there.. strange, but i have came across this before on cm roms, so im sure there is a bug there somewhere, even if it is not too common..
jmpcrx said:
you say you do a factory reset, can i ask, do you mean a factory reset in the fone settings, or are you referring to a full wipe using cwm/twrp? as when i flash, i wipe everything accept what i dont want wiped on the external sd.. i dont factory reset, is this after you have flashed the new rom? or before you flash a new rom?
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Yes, what you do should suffice. I meant cwm/twrp wipe (boot, system, data, cache, android.secure). SD card is not touched. So you are doing fine with that, but anyway, there has to be something make those issues... Can you look at /system/addon.d folder? There is stored info about files that will be preserved even if you install a new ROM with a wipe. If there are many leftovers from ROMs or programs you tried earlier, then you should try to manually clear this folder before new ROM install.
the device gradually slows down, becomes laggy and ultimately unuseable
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That was the point with pre-4.2 ROMs, and even with 4.2 there was a bug with gallery thumbnails which made it to eat gigabyte and more of storage after some time. That was fixed in CM 10.1.3. Also a Lite-Kernel used by earlier ROMs is very great, but has its issues, for example, systemui crashes when camera launch after some phone use and sleep of death.
I used CM 10.1.3 for a a three months and still keeping a backup of it for a some case. There was no slowing or lagging, it was almost perfect (if you don't use VoIP or BT handset) even after those months of use. Strangely, but I didn't have even "settings -> about crash" issue bubor listed!
Welll here are some tip which have helped me
jmpcrx said:
i wish i could agree with you.. im running kitkat crdroid, and like every rom i have flashed over the years, has plenty of bugs that make it very annoying as a daily rom. phone switching off twice a day, icons/widgets dissapearing after rebooting, becomes laggy after a week or so of usig the rom, laggy browsing on all browsers, trebucket crashing regurly etc etc, thats on top of the bugs you list.. the only roms that are stable are completely finished official cm or miui roms (which there are none for this fone..). the stock rom is the only one that has not given me trouble. with the greatest respect to those that put their time i to make these roms, im sure people who flash them make them out to be more stable than they really are unfortunatelly.
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i .. umm.. well i agree that as of now they have issues but they will get better .. ours is an old device... so i guess we should tread slowly . which is exactly what the developers are doing .. .
and i agree on the ram hungry part but there are ways for that too . .
funny i have been messaging people to help me post this stuff through them . . but well thats the prob with being a junior member .
My personal tested suggestions for omni rom which have really incremented to the performace some of which are :
- using one of the lightest launchers as i find trebuchet and even google launcher RAM hungry is 'Lightning Launcher' the bloody app itself is in BYTES!!
-also i use link2sd with ext4 that helps in storage and also use sd maid for regular clean up.
-also i have been testing memory swapping using linux swap partition on sd card (class 10 ) and yeah i know it degrades sd card but oh well like Glados testing testing testing
-i have also switch off startup at boot for certain apps
and i apologize for posting what maybe well known tricks or improvs but i really dont know where else to post these (still have the ten post ban from posting )
and if these dont help then sorry to waste your time . .
PS anyone think an F2FS file system like for the nexus7 would\might help ?
tl;dr use the given tips maybe they might help . . and with custom roms i guess you have to spend time to keep them running well .
Makshow said:
Yes, what you do should suffice. I meant cwm/twrp wipe (boot, system, data, cache, android.secure). SD card is not touched. So you are doing fine with that, but anyway, there has to be something make those issues... Can you look at /system/addon.d folder? There is stored info about files that will be preserved even if you install a new ROM with a wipe. If there are many leftovers from ROMs or programs you tried earlier, then you should try to manually clear this folder before new ROM install.
That was the point with pre-4.2 ROMs, and even with 4.2 there was a bug with gallery thumbnails which made it to eat gigabyte and more of storage after some time. That was fixed in CM 10.1.3. Also a Lite-Kernel used by earlier ROMs is very great, but has its issues, for example, systemui crashes when camera launch after some phone use and sleep of death.
I used CM 10.1.3 for a a three months and still keeping a backup of it for a some case. There was no slowing or lagging, it was almost perfect (if you don't use VoIP or BT handset) even after those months of use. Strangely, but I didn't have even "settings -> about crash" issue bubor listed!
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ok thanks, i cleared the data in trebucket, and started again with placing apps/widgets on home screen, and i also have deleted the hacked version of adobe flash that you install with dolphin browser, and, supprisingly after a couple of days of testing, my apps/widgets are not deleting themselves, the phone is significantly less laggy, and i have had no switch offs, so, im very pleased with that! so id suggest against downloading that version of flash player with this rom..
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i .. umm.. well i agree that as of now they have issues but they will get better .. ours is an old device... so i guess we should tread slowly . which is exactly what the developers are doing .. .
and i agree on the ram hungry part but there are ways for that too . .
funny i have been messaging people to help me post this stuff through them . . but well thats the prob with being a junior member .
My personal tested suggestions for omni rom which have really incremented to the performace some of which are :
- using one of the lightest launchers as i find trebuchet and even google launcher RAM hungry is 'Lightning Launcher' the bloody app itself is in BYTES!!
-also i use link2sd with ext4 that helps in storage and also use sd maid for regular clean up.
-also i have been testing memory swapping using linux swap partition on sd card (class 10 ) and yeah i know it degrades sd card but oh well like Glados testing testing testing
-i have also switch off startup at boot for certain apps
and i apologize for posting what maybe well known tricks or improvs but i really dont know where else to post these (still have the ten post ban from posting )
and if these dont help then sorry to waste your time . .
PS anyone think an F2FS file system like for the nexus7 would\might help ?
tl;dr use the given tips maybe they might help . . and with custom roms i guess you have to spend time to keep them running well .
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some good tips there, thankyou, i havent tried any of them yet, but i will have a go at some of them and see what happens.. thanks thfusor..
jmpcrx said:
hi, just wondering if there are any roms available that are completely stable and finished for this phone?
if not, (as i have not found any), is the original stock rom (rojers) available to download anymore?
thanks guys..
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For what it's worth, I recently had to reflash and decided to use dman325's stock UCLJ3. (He has two versions, stock and one with the aosp lockscreen. If you decide to use either, use the stock one. dman325 had to resign the aosp one with a test signing key that, recently, got invalidated or declined and it prevents Google Play from updating past 3.7.15 and Google Play Services wont install at all because of a shared_uid fault due to certificate conflict, etc.)
I got frustrated with the amount of bloat in an otherwise vendor fun-packed rom, so I went in and hacked out lots of crap. Largely relying on either "what is safe to get rid of" lists for similar samsung phones and my own poking around/guestimation using dex2jar and jd-gui. I really, honestly don't understand what InputEventApp.apk was meant to do. Seriously. But, getting rid of it reduced the logcat spam tremendously. Also, the wsslcm* apks are somewhat frightening in appearance.
I've gone a few steps further, I modified android.policy.jar smali to prevent the emergency dial option from showing up on the lock screen - I accidentally pocket dialed 911 a year ago and am not about to do that again. I also modified the kernel ramdisk image to set ro.debuggable=1 and ro.secure=0. I tried, while I was at it, to replace /dev/random with /dev/urandom, but I'll have to do some experimenting.
I've added a few static binaries for proper gnu utilities. bash, ls, grep, sort, du, etc. It surprises me that a functional shell environment doesn't get more attention on phones with keyboards.
So, that's my $0.02. Try the stock UCLJ3 and fiddle with it a bit. Good luck.
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For what it's worth, I recently had to reflash and decided to use dman325's stock UCLJ3. (He has two versions, stock and one with the aosp lockscreen. If you decide to use either, use the stock one. dman325 had to resign the aosp one with a test signing key that, recently, got invalidated or declined and it prevents Google Play from updating past 3.7.15 and Google Play Services wont install at all because of a shared_uid fault due to certificate conflict, etc.)
I got frustrated with the amount of bloat in an otherwise vendor fun-packed rom, so I went in and hacked out lots of crap. Largely relying on either "what is safe to get rid of" lists for similar samsung phones and my own poking around/guestimation using dex2jar and jd-gui. I really, honestly don't understand what InputEventApp.apk was meant to do. Seriously. But, getting rid of it reduced the logcat spam tremendously. Also, the wsslcm* apks are somewhat frightening in appearance.
I've gone a few steps further, I modified android.policy.jar smali to prevent the emergency dial option from showing up on the lock screen - I accidentally pocket dialed 911 a year ago and am not about to do that again. I also modified the kernel ramdisk image to set ro.debuggable=1 and ro.secure=0. I tried, while I was at it, to replace /dev/random with /dev/urandom, but I'll have to do some experimenting.
I've added a few static binaries for proper gnu utilities. bash, ls, grep, sort, du, etc. It surprises me that a functional shell environment doesn't get more attention on phones with keyboards.
So, that's my $0.02. Try the stock UCLJ3 and fiddle with it a bit. Good luck.
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thanks etherfish, if i continue to have probs i may well do that, i was thinking about going back to stock. dont think i have the confidence to fiddle like you have though as im more of a windows man than linux, but thanks for the great advice
jmpcrx said:
thanks etherfish, if i continue to have probs i may well do that, i was thinking about going back to stock. dont think i have the confidence to fiddle like you have though as im more of a windows man than linux, but thanks for the great advice
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Well, you learn by doing, I believe. Also, I have a classy - for a flip phone - Motorola Razr2 v8 kicking around I can always put my SIM into if I've managed to hose my captivate glide. Also, I'm replying because I can't post in the rom development forum until I have 10 posts. Hurray for well founded, but nonetheless arbitrary restrictions. So, a number of things have piqued my curiosity.
So, first of all, this surprised me in the logs:
Code:
I/Launcher( 2263): onCreate(): product model family:U1 product model : GT-I9221
I'd always wondered why I had an SGH-I927 when other phones, like the remarkably similar Galaxy R, are GT-I9103. Is/was GT-I9221 an internal reference?
Also, there are other inconsistencies, for example:
Code:
D/RILJ ( 426): [1718]> REQUEST_GET_NEIGHBORING_CELL_IDS
D/RILJ ( 426): [1718]< REQUEST_GET_NEIGHBORING_CELL_IDS error: com.android.internal.telephony.CommandException: REQUEST_NOT_SUPPORTED
If you jump into the debug/field test menu system, (dial *#*#197328640#*#* ) you can bring up the list of neighboring cells in both GSM and WCDMA modes... So, why is the request marked not supported? Furthermore, why didn't samsung disable the request in the first place if they went to the trouble of disabling it from working. I imagine this has a reason, but I doubt it's a terribly great one.
And the FM receiver? I do believe our broadcom BCM4329 is a bluetooth+wifi_in_an_sdcard (well, SDIO really, but still, not pci-e and not usb.) and has an FM receiver built in, but it's omitted and hidden?
Code:
W/AudioPolicyManager( 112): FM radio recording off
Oh, the conspiracy theories. And then there's the weird lines you discover if you dump the string identifiers from /system/bin/drexe!
For example, these lines are all sequential:
Code:
broadcast -a android.provider.Telephony.SECRET_CODE android_secret_code://767*3855
InvokeOemRequestHookRaw broadcast factorst OK
InvokeOemRequestHookRaw factorst fail %d
/system/.configure.txt
(what's with /system/.configure.txt???)
Do not type 767*3855 into your phone. It's the factory wipe code or possibly part of it. I do believe drexe is the DataRouter you often see spamming the logs with:
Code:
E/DataRouter( 107): usb connection is true
E/DataRouter( 107): DSR is ON. Don't send DTR ON.
And we find these strings in drexe:
Code:
__initialize_usb_ipc
/data/.usb_stream
usb connection is true
InvokeOemRequestHookRaw usbstatus true is success
oh, and:
Code:
pipe failed (%s)
fork failed (%s)
child pid = %d.
execute sh.
system/bin/sh
execl fail %d
What do you think? Why does drexe seem to have code to support and start a shell? Well, if nothing else, thank you for reading.
P.S. I don't suspect anything the least bit conspiracy like, malicious, or devious. I've worked for some huge companies; i don't think it'd be likely.
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Also, I'm replying because I can't post in the rom development forum until I have 10 posts. Hurray for well founded, but nonetheless arbitrary restrictions.
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Technically, you can post in cappy dev forums started from 3 posts. I saw someone posting there his fourth post.
As for other things you listed... Well, I'll be glad to have an FM receiver in our glide. But I really think that reason for all this staff can be as simply as hands growing from wrong place or restricted development time...
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Technically, you can post in cappy dev forums started from 3 posts. I saw someone posting there his fourth post.
As for other things you listed... Well, I'll be glad to have an FM receiver in our glide. But I really think that reason for all this staff can be as simply as hands growing from wrong place or restricted development time...
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I recently, after some research, also installed dans stock (i decided to go complete stock since i didnt know what the lock screen thing meant).
I havent had any trouble with being outdated. Only thing i noticed (unless im doing it wrong, im new to this phone) was that screencaps dont work. its power button and volume down, right?
Other things id like to customize are data being in the top drawer instead of bluetooth (since i never use it), and id like to be able to see who texted me on the lock screen, but while still using the stock messaging app, and without an app having to constantly run.
Other than those couple of things its been great!
im HOPING down the road for an un-buggy or at least minimally buggy version of 4.4. well see what happens with that i guess.
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I recently, after some research, also installed dans stock (i decided to go complete stock since i didnt know what the lock screen thing meant).
I havent had any trouble with being outdated. Only thing i noticed (unless im doing it wrong, im new to this phone) was that screencaps dont work. its power button and volume down, right?
Other things id like to customize are data being in the top drawer instead of bluetooth (since i never use it), and id like to be able to see who texted me on the lock screen, but while still using the stock messaging app, and without an app having to constantly run.
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well i always say stock is best cause it IS optimized however there are things like keep and total Google integration that i like so i updated to kit kat
for screen caps if they dont work i could maybe suggest an application called super manager its pretty loaded it has screen cap and may even give you prox sense wake up for device.
also customizing the drawer hmm.. i guess you could try xposed framework but please be careful and make a backup before
as for who texts you and the content of the text you could try dash clock its able to do a lot
hello guys I was just wondering if I could get some help since I returned back to fully Ice Cream Sandwich Stock. I completely removed all the system bloat with link2sd, uninstalled all att crap. Can anyone recommend me something since I feel the ram consuption still to high... battery so far is doing kind of good almost as in crdroid
But i believe it can be improved. Any recommended settings or something else i can do? Already tried lite kernel but it gave me some issues. Rather keep stock. Any recommendations please guys. Also if you know a "ok google" like app or something as a swifty assistant would be nice. Please recommend. Thanks in advance
jmpcrx said:
hi, just wondering if there are any roms available that are completely stable and finished for this phone?
if not, (as i have not found any), is the original stock rom (rojers) available to download anymore?
thanks guys..
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Hi,
well that depends.. on what you mean with "finished"
I have tested all (3 months ago) available ROMs for the Glide. IMO the best available ROM is PACman but as said it depends. I used pac_i927-milestone.1.RC1.4.zip for a long time (months) without having any issues besides Bluetooth Headset which is a general problem in JB and higher version). I have tried other PACMan ROM versions as well but the above one was the best of stability and battery life (in my case).
So it depends what features you really need or are a must-have for you. If you do not have bluetooth headsets I would recommend the above otherwise .. well I would recommend sediROM
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xdajog
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lasuazo said:
hello guys I was just wondering if I could get some help since I returned back to fully Ice Cream Sandwich Stock.
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Haven't done that before but would be rooted ICS stock also ok for you?
If so:
--> search for thread ID 1994902 or search for: [ROM] Stock UCLJ3 Rooted, Deodexed, Zipaligned
(sorry not allowed to post links..)
Regards
xdajog