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New User, just wondering about the best ROM with everything working

Hello,
I am a new user and can someone tell me the steps I should follow.
I haven't rooted the device or anything yet, and I was also wondering what the best ROM for the EVO was... It has to have full functionality and be faster than the stock ROM. Can someone tell me what fits the category?
Thanks

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471

gokuman56 said:
Hello,
I am a new user and can someone tell me the steps I should follow.
I haven't rooted the device or anything yet, and I was also wondering what the best ROM for the EVO was... It has to have full functionality and be faster than the stock ROM. Can someone tell me what fits the category?
Thanks
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Thats an opinion based question. I think CM is best, but it doesnt have working WiMax or HDMI. You're gonna want a sense based rom, as those do have working 4g/HDMI. Try some of the more popular ones until you find one that you like.
This kinda question is better asked in Q/A or General.

How do I root?
I just got the phone yesterday from the sprint store and was wondering if I could root it. It just came with 2.2 and when I saw this, it said new evos won't work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
Can someone tell me where I can root it and give me a step by step guide?
Thanks

gokuman56 said:
Hello,
I am a new user and can someone tell me the steps I should follow.
I haven't rooted the device or anything yet, and I was also wondering what the best ROM for the EVO was... It has to have full functionality and be faster than the stock ROM. Can someone tell me what fits the category?
Thanks
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gokuman,
You probably won't get many replies to this thread, as your questions are very open ended, and also this probably isn't the best place to ask. You really need to post these kind of questions in the Evo Q&A forum. With that said, since you're new, I'll try to help.
First off, you need to root your device. There are multiple posts on this topic depending on what version of the Evo you have - the new ones use a different method than the older ones.
As far as ROM's go, there are two flavors - AOSP and Sense. AOSP is the original "Android as Google intended it" with no skins, tweaks, etc. It's very fast, very stable and completely open-source (if you've ever used or seen a Nexus One, this runs stock AOSP android). The downside is that AOSP (at this time) does not support 4G, so if you live in a 4G area, bear this in mind.
Of the AOSP ROMs there are two that stand out: Cyanogen Mod 6.1 (known as CM 6.1) and MIUI. Both are excellent, although I prefer CM 6.1.
Sense ROM's are very similar to to the software that came on your phone. There are multiple options available, although my two personal favorites are Azrael X 2.1 and Sprint Lovers ROM. No disrespect to anyone else, but these are the ones that have worked best for me... With that said, do your research and try a few to make your own conclusions. Most importantly, once you've done some experimenting, post back and let us know your findings.
Thanks,
Matt_TX

Fresh
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gokuman56 said:
I just got the phone yesterday from the sprint store and was wondering if I could root it. It just came with 2.2 and when I saw this, it said new evos won't work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
Can someone tell me where I can root it and give me a step by step guide?
Thanks
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What hboot version did it ship with? That currently dictates your rooting options.
Turn your phone off. Then turn back on holding pwr+vol down. Hboot will be listed.
If you have 2.02 see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
Otherwise see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
Whatever method you choose be patient, make sure you read the whole post a few times through before you root, and follow the directions exactly. Do that and you will be up and running quick.

Definately in the wrong section, but the best answer is there is no best Rom.
There are best roms for different people. Roms are like cars, there is a different rom for each person. And even then who two people set up the same rom will be so different it's not even funny, because within each rom are options, just like in a car.
I've used Cyanogen and Myn's mainly myself. No suprise, those are both also the most visited and posted in threads int he development section. They are kind of like the Chevy and Ford of the Roms.
Cyanogen is AOSP without sense, and no working 4g/hdmi as stated.
Myn's is a heavily themed sense based rom with everything working, it's very visually appealing, and yet smooth and snappy.
The third Rom I'd quickly mention would be MIUI, if you wanted an Iphone but cant have one, that rom is for you, it is probably the most dev intensive rom of all. It's made by Chinese devs, but the shear amount of detail put into it is breathtaking, they have re organized all the menus and visuals of the rom, but the crazy thing is, they didn't stop there, if you load a new app on it from the market, it actually will change the menus within that app to their system(one that looks very much like an Iphone) I recommend everyone try that rom at least once, It wasn't for me, but it doesn't mean that the attention to detail, and extensiveness of the UI they put in it did not impress me to no ends.
The amount of good roms out there is crazy though, Azrael, Sprint Lovers, Fresh, Evio, Calkulin's... the list just goes on and on, so try a bunch and find one you like, just like buying a car.

stick with the best ignore the rest...MYNS WARM 2.2 RLS4 but just try diff kernels and see what works best! njoy
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I was an avid CM fan when I had my first EVO, then it got stolen, and by the time I had bought another one, MIUI came out. So I figured I'd try it since it's still AOSP and I've been using it ever since. It just streamlines things so well for you, and running off of their stock kernel it's the snappiest ROM I've ever used.

Well, there is a lot to read. In my case I followed the instructions to the T.
Personally I flash a few roms and they work very good, but the Warm two point tow is my favorite.
Here are some links to follow:
READ FIRST.
REMEMBER TO BACKUP
1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045&page=120
Read before start the previous
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045&page=122
My favorite ROM
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
List of Custom ROMS
4) http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs#Custom_ROMS
Hope this help.

Since we're all throwing ROMs out there, can't forget to mention MikFroyo! He's a very attentive dev who is always open to suggestions for add-ons and always makes time to answer questions. I guess the moral of the story is your options are virtually limitless and the most useful tool is going to be your ability to look before you leap. Knowledge is power...

zookafg3 said:
Well, there is a lot to read. In my case I followed the instructions to the T.
Personally I flash a few roms and they work very good, but the Warm two point tow is my favorite.
Here are some links to follow:
READ FIRST.
REMEMBER TO BACKUP
1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045&page=120
Read before start the previous
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045&page=122
My favorite ROM
3) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
List of Custom ROMS
4) http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs#Custom_ROMS
Hope this help.
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You, sir, are the man! You made it so easy a caveman could do it!! Lol
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Ok, one quick question before i root
I checked my HBOOT and it showed:
0.97.0000
It's totally different than the ones I was told of, can I still root?
If I can, just tell me, and I'll do it
Thanks

Two pages on a thread that wouldn't exist if you read the very first sticky in this subforum.
In that sticky is also a link for an auto rooter but I guess reading already available information is harder than having people hold your hand and spoon feed you.

lovethyEVO said:
Two pages on a thread that wouldn't exist if you read the very first sticky in this subforum.
In that sticky is also a link for an auto rooter but I guess reading already available information is harder than having people hold your hand and spoon feed you.
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Hey, I was making sure I was doing everything right, I have already seen the links, but they have nothing about my hboot which is 0.97.0000, I want to make sure I root fully and without problems. Thanks for trying to help everyone

gokuman56 said:
Hey, I was making sure I was doing everything right, I have already seen the links, but they have nothing about my hboot which is 0.97.0000, I want to make sure I root fully and without problems. Thanks for trying to help everyone
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sticky said:
Any HBOOT Version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448 *Updated 12/12/10
If you have a 2.02 HBOOT version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=1197 <- People said starting with this post is when things started working. Try this as well.
Another option for NON 2.02 HBOOT:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
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If that isn't plain enough english for you then you really need to be spoon fed.

Well, I finally rooted, lol, Thanks, btw.... I used unrevoked........
Thanks again!!!

gokuman56 said:
Well, I finally rooted, lol, Thanks, btw.... I used unrevoked........
Thanks again!!!
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Congratulations man and I guess one lesson to learn from lovethyEVO is to do your homework before posting as some, even though offering nothing useful themselves, will point out exactly how unnecessary your post/thread is! Anyways, enjoy your new toy!

Is there a stable 2.3 gingerbread rom out there?

I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information. And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.

You need to calm down buddy!!! If you don't like what you see on xda go somewhere else! There will never be a solid rom they just get better and better!!
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yoerz said:
I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information. And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
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WOW! Someone needs to get some booty

First off, wow, asking for a stable version of an operating system that's barely out on any phone yet is so terrible that it obviously seems you haven't been doing hours of reading. Skim through the first page of the Q&A section for the evo or any of most recent pages on those "300 pages" of comments and you will find people talking about their problems with these ROMs.
Besides that... ruling out the terrible wiki we have for the evo, I can only offer my own opinion in what gingerbread ROM I believe is best. I suggest the latest Cyanogen Mod 7 RC if you don't keep up with the nightlies. CM7 has just about every feature the evo is hardware capable of. It runs fine for me along with Savaged Zen's kernel. Try out different kernels and ROMs to see what is best for you instead of relying on 300 pages of comments.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!! That's for sure!
rvoisine4 said:
WOW! Someone needs to get some booty
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Get latest ROM Manager which has a "ROM" library now. Went from both Gingerbread SalvageMod to CM7RC4 due to Ad-Hoc availability. Lots more listed too.
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OP,
It's fine if you don't want to search. It's fine if you don't want to read through threads that are hundreds of pages long. Both of those things are really your problem, not anybody's here. Also, it's fine if you would prefer a "cleaner" interface or a more organized presentation of ROMS available for the EVO; even I think that's a good idea that someone could really take advantage of on their own personal website with AdSense or something.
But what isn't fine is:
"...you people..."
"...it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!"
"...300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless."
"This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative."
If you came in here to post that and expected not to be insulted, called a troll, or start a flame fest then you, my friend, have some maturing to do.

...most if not all are beta's or rc's (or based off), so i say no!

Nightly 36 of CM7 is working 100% for everything I've tried thus far (4G, wifi tethering, maps, camera) but there's no guarantee there won't be issues later.

First, I can say the information here is some what scattered but the amount of the users on this site would make it nearly impossible for a group of non paid Admins to keep track of. Second, almost all version of GB are as close as they can be to stable, if none of those please you compile your own if it's not that hard. Third, what about Sense? Do you want it or need it, could use some maybe? Finally, IMO the Destroyer V2 is solid, with a lot of options, but requires reading the first post to flash properly.

Im surprised anyone is replying to this arrogant jacka**
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CM7 nightly 36 will have everything working, other than the slight chance you will not be able to get the gps working with the sense fix.
Or try RC8 of the ROM linked in the yet another AOSP Ginger ROM thread in the dev section.
Or if you want something better, learn how to make it yourself (Forum or ROM).

yoerz said:
I know you people don't like these posts,
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You people? You mean those of us who spend time learning how to improve our smartphone experience while also helping others improve theirs?
but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
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Many of us have no problem finding the information we seek. We take advantage of the "search this forum" feature as well as a little patience and common sense. Although this forums contain a wealth of information, it is NOT a library.
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
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There are several gingerbread roms available for you to test. CM7, SalvageMod & OMGB to name a few. They all work, but they all have quirks just like the rom that came preinstalled on your EVO.
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information.
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Every question is simple to those who have the answers. On the pages where the aforementioned roms can be downloaded are clear descriptions of what works and what doesn't.
And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
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Seek and ye shall find.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
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There are many alternatives for you to choose, however, I must warn you that you will have to read and search for the information you seek therefore, you might find it a bit frustrating.
Now, if you want or need help, there are many of us who will go out of our way to assist you. We enjoy helping others and we don't mind helping you. So please, post your question(s) and leave the berating comments to yourself. Enjoy the rest of your day and, by the way, I was I was helpful to you.
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Been running SalvageMod for a few days now. Not one issue.

i've been runnung destroyer v1 for 3 or 4 weeks, love it, not one issue except i can't get the hdmi out to work, which is fine cause i don't use that feature, other then that its stable enough as my daily, bluetooth, gps, 4g, everything working on my phone

You're right. It's next to impossible, specially if you're new to the forums, to find out certain details about a ROM. The wiki page for the ROMs and kernels are so outdated and rarely, if ever, mention what doesn't work on that ROM/Kernel. Doing searches yield pretty much every thread since most keywords and tags apply to all of them, understandably so. The issue can be remedied by keeping the wiki section up to date.
I don't understand why everyone is so defensive. He's not attacking you, just stating a fact. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely grateful for any forums such as this. Bringing an issue into the light should be welcome and not garner so much hostility.
Anyway... that's just MY opinion.

hermanlf said:
I don't understand why everyone is so defensive. He's not attacking you, just stating a fact. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely grateful for any forums such as this. Bringing an issue into the light should be welcome and not garner so much hostility.
Anyway... that's just MY opinion.
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Was it too much to ask of the OP to simply ask his question? The roms, mods, kernels and themes are FREE for us to use and these forums provide us with a place where we can FREELY enjoy the dedicated work of the devs and improve our overall smartphone user experience. So what, if we have to do a little bit of searching to find what we seek. Do we not search for items at a grocery store or at a retail clothing store? Do many of us not use search engines to find what we seek? The point is this: Instead of taking frustrations out on the people who control/moderate these forums, simply ask the question and let those who are willing to help answer it. If that is too much of a strain then feel free to start a forum of your own and arrange it however you see fit.
As for your comment about garnering hostility, lets review:
I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
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That's like entering someone's house asking for a cup of sugar but then telling the person you're asking how messy his house is.
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer
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If is was so simple why was there a need to ask the question in the first place?,
And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
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These forums are in use 24 hours a day 7 days a week with people posting & replying almost nonstop. The pages will continue to increase and the comments he deem as useless may be important to a great deal of others.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
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C'mon. Please explain to me how we should not view his comments as hostile & arrogant. Telling others that they need to do a better job at providing a better way for him to get the information he seeks as if he is a paying customer of some sort is indeed disrespectful, hostile and arrogant. PERIOD! In my opinion, of course.

wow i just have to say if the OP has such hate for the XDA people GTFO ! pretty simple

CheesyNutz said:
wow i just have to say if the OP has such hate for the XDA people GTFO ! pretty simple
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'nuf said.......I try to always be respectful when helping others or when asking for help in these forums. On Twitter, my followers will quickly tell you that I tell it like it is, but I try to do so respectfully. Sometimes, I fail...lol...

[README] New? Before flashing any ICS-based rom, READ THIS

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ICE CREAM SANDWICH!!
Before you consider it though, READ this. Read it closely.
The goal of this thread isn't to be dramatic at all. There was no big issue...this topic didn't really have to be posted.
But the idea is to purely be helpful. Not everybody who surfs these forums knows everything that's going on and its nice to have all the information in one place. I hope this information helps you determine whether or not the ICS leak is good for you.
There are common issues among all ICS-leak based ROMs. I hope this helps a lot of you since I've seen the same questions in a lot of ROM threads, over and over.
Mods if you can sticky, +1!
#0: A LITTLE BACKGROUND
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When I say "ICS-leak based ROMs", I am saying that the current state of ICS roms on the T989 is that they are based on the ICS leak for our AT&T cousin, the Skyrocket. Thus there are still issues.
That being said...flash Skyrocket roms at your own risk.
Common issues in ALL leak-based roms:
(* Does not neccesarily apply to Raver's AOSP build, it is FUNDAMENTALLY different so read his topic and follow his posts *)
Call echo for about 50-75% of us. A temporary solution is to play around with your case(if you have one on your phone) OR turn off Noise Reduction while in a call
There is no Wi-Fi calling
Shutdown doesn't work for some people. THIS IS WHY YOU MUST SUPERWIPE!! (See #3)
Some video streaming problems
Some video recording problems (depends on ROM)
Some AT&T specific modifications that can give you problems. I.E. there is no 2G/4G toggle switch
Point is: THEY'RE NOT PERFECT YET
#1!
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BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING
If you don't know what ClockworkMod is and how to access the Recovery menu,
STOP here. Look around, read some tutorials, and immerse yourself in some basic Android knowledge.
This can mean the difference between frying a $250+ device and running a cool ROM on it. Do what you do wisely.
Keep your battery charged and make backups.
#2!
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MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP
This is the same as using the Backup and Restore menu in CWM. You have been warned. The devs aren't responsible for lost data.
#3!
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BEFORE FLASHING ICS ROMS
Super super important:
Run this script via CWM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477955
THIS WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE...and align the partitions properly for ICS
Run it again. Do it twice to be safe!
Then flash your ROM.
#4!
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PATCH YOUR ACCELEROMETER
Without this, your phone will not AutoRotate, games and many media apps will give you headaches, and your CAMERA WILL BE BROKEN.
Most of the ROMs here should have this patch built in. If you're a dev and haven't added it in yet, please do so !!
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592170
#5
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WHEN LOOKING AT THE DEVELPMENT TOPIC
Use the topic search function before you post a question.
I'm not a topic police officer. I don't really care what people post in my own topics as long as its not bickering. But asking questions when they've already been asked does take up space and makes the topic harder to sift through so please be courteous to the devs Do yourself and all of us a favor. Look through it first! This is a cycle...if people look through the topics before posting, their question will be most likely answered and then they will not need to post. The topic gets less cluttered and the next person who has a question has less pages to look through
And different OP's have different requests for their topics. Please be courteous.
THIS IS NOT A COMPETITION
I can stand with Raver in saying this. As a matter of fact, I plan on collaborating with him.
The point is:
XDA isn't about competition. It's about innovation. So please don't say X ROM is better than Y ROM, everyone has their own taste.
TO REPORT BUGS
Follow the instructions in the ROM dev's OP.
I'm actually going to make a Mantis bug tracker for our ICS ROMs. Devs and themers, let me know if you're interested via PM.
GOING BACK TO GINGERBREAD?
Although the ICS roms are fairly stable at this point, some of you may wish to go back to Gingerbread for whatever reason. Before flashing back to GB: REPEAT STEP 3 ABOVE, DO THE SUPERWIPE!

must read if your new to ics
This should be sticky or like placed in the top 5 spots or something where people are sure to read it.
Oh ya if you missed it
DARKSIDE WIPE MULTIPLE TIMES!!!

Just asked a mod to sticky it

yaldak said:
Just asked a mod to sticky it
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BTW that is some amazing you pulled on the rotation. Straight boss
Your thanks/post ratio says it all

I understand what you say of the att roms
But I've been running skyics for a while now and my phones fine.
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JaZart said:
I understand what you say of the att roms
But I've been running skyics for a while now and my phones fine.
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This is true. Which is why its a caution / at your risk thing

sound advice in this sticky. superwipe really gets the job done.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using XDA

um I think this is being a little over dramatic... plus there is another thread stating the current state of all ICS roms. I think this should be closed.
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To add and not that it maybe required, after running super wipe a few times I have ran samsung_ultimate_kernel_cleaning_script_by_lippol94 which has given me almost perfect results with any ICS flash I have done.

iloveandroid16 said:
um I think this is being a little over dramatic... plus there is another thread stating the current state of all ICS roms. I think this should be closed.
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Here's my take on this. What's the first thing someone is going to be looking for when going to their phones section on xda? "Development" right? Now thnknof how many people, more specifically those with the xda app, go to "stickies" for information first?. My guess is not the majority. This thread is also clearly labeled as to what it is and is formatted so anyone can relate and understand. Therefore while I see that you think its the same I vouch it stays. Until we get our own version of ics we and the more bugs are fixed or found, this sticky would prove useful. It also keeps random questions or repeat questions out of from threads.
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iloveandroid16 said:
um I think this is being a little over dramatic... plus there is another thread stating the current state of all ICS roms. I think this should be closed.
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The goal wasn't to be dramatic at all. There was no big issue and I'm not a topic cop...IDC what people post but to make it easier for everyone in general its nice to have a little primer.
But the idea is to purely be helpful. Not everybody who surfs these forums knows everything that's going on and its nice to have all the information in one place. You'll be surprised.

iloveandroid16 said:
um I think this is being a little over dramatic... plus there is another thread stating the current state of all ICS roms. I think this should be closed.
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Agreed. You guys and your wipe 3 times.. lmao..
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I think it's great right here. Especially for those who are new, don't know how to search, are mentally slow on finding stuff. It's right here in your face when you walk into the Dev section. Don't close this. Just because some people know enough, doesn't mean others do. I know, but there's still a lot of people who don't.
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The post was appreciated, not for me but I know for some who are new as replied above. Many forget that there are people out there that are not as perfect as they are. Remember, you once were as newb as those who are (new) here. Treat others as you would wanted to be treated.
Although ICS is nice and I have had great results it's just so early in dev stages I must go back to the darkside.

To clarify....cani use the skyrocket ics roms such as skyics and have working data? How? Someone here posted that they did.
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}{Alienz}{ said:
To clarify....cani use the skyrocket ics roms such as skyics and have working data? How? Someone here posted that they did.
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Yes, you can flash Skyrocket roms. I have flashed several of the ICS leak roms, and have not lost data connection. I just wipe and flash. No issues for me.. other than having to de-att it.
If you loose data then try a superwipe?
This thread, while informative, does make it seem like a "big deal " but it really just isn't. They are the same flipping phone!!! And now that one of our local geniuses have figured out the auto rotation issues, we are golden to share in all the SR ICS love
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Sorry for the double post..

Okay toned it down a notch.
But again I will reiterate that I did not make this topic because this is a big deal, its not. I made it because we will have new visitors and I want to help them get started

yaldak said:
Okay toned it down a notch.
But again I will reiterate that I did not make this topic because this is a big deal, its not. I made it because we will have new visitors and I want to help them get started
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I think alot of the issues people have which are common across many ICS leak based roms but that only a percent of users get are purely due to the way the rom was flashed. Clearly you dont need to do all the wipes but if you dont and you get one of these bad rom flashing bugs then dont complain to the dev.

PJcastaldo said:
This thread, while informative, does make it seem like a "big deal " but it really just isn't. They are the same flipping phone!!! And now that one of our local geniuses have figured out the auto rotation issues, we are golden to share in all the SR ICS love
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Curiously, that "local genious" is the very same guy that started this thread!! So at least for that reason (gratitude) you should just let it be...you dont need it? Fine, we heard you...no problem, but im sure someone will benefit from it.
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Anyone watch the mars landing last night? Pretty awesome.
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Great idea. I have a question: What happened to Mr. Highway?
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The Archangel said:
I'm still here, just changed my name.
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Good to hear you are still around dude, this forum can't afford to lose mod's like you.
On another note, I am really hoping ppl start to calm down in the development forums. I have never witnessed anything like this on XDA before. Constant sniping is a pure waste of everybody's time and does nothing for development or enjoyment of this site. I would be interested to hear if anyone has some "positive" ideas on how to improve the situation?

The Archangel said:
thanks
all of the mods here for the S3 are working on something special
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Well, I look forward to seeing the finished product. Thanks.

GUYS. I'm getting an S3 in a couple of weeks!!!! so pumped.
I'm coming from an Optimus V. Development on that phone is FANTASTIC, but I have terrible service in my hometown, and let's face it: this phone is 29395x better.
I've never really used xda much, because androidcentral is good for the OV. I checked out the ac forum for the s3, and it's awful in comparison. So I thought...I'd better get over to xda
I have a few very random questions...
I hope it's okay that I post them here...
1. What are flamers and trolls?? lol.
2. I saw a video on how to easily root the Att Galaxy S3. Seemed simple enough. However, what is this talk of 'tripping a flash counter'?? is it okay to trip the flash counter, and can I reset that later if I wanna go back to stock??
3. I guess cwm is probably the best(favorited) recovery to use??
Thanks to anyone who can answer my questions

andrewnelson23 said:
GUYS. I'm getting an S3 in a couple of weeks!!!! so pumped.
I'm coming from an Optimus V. Development on that phone is FANTASTIC, but I have terrible service in my hometown, and let's face it: this phone is 29395x better.
I've never really used xda much, because androidcentral is good for the OV. I checked out the ac forum for the s3, and it's awful in comparison. So I thought...I'd better get over to xda
I have a few very random questions...
I hope it's okay that I post them here...
1. What are flamers and trolls?? lol.
2. I saw a video on how to easily root the Att Galaxy S3. Seemed simple enough. However, what is this talk of 'tripping a flash counter'?? is it okay to trip the flash counter, and can I reset that later if I wanna go back to stock??
3. I guess cwm is probably the best(favorited) recovery to use??
Thanks to anyone who can answer my questions
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1. people who are rude and ignorant.
2. Use the no trip root method and everything should be fine. Tripping a flash counter is a way for att/samsung to know that you messed with your phone, it can be a problem for warranty returns, but there is an app called triangle away that should reset this. I havent tried it so I personaly cannot confirm.
3. there was a little bit of argument on which recovery was better when there was the missing imei problem, now that it is solved it doesn't really matter (all personal preference). But please don't forget to do a NV backup or at least a backup of your Imei no.
and by the way welcome to xda it is a great place for information and if you do searches first and post in the propper section the people here are great.

Well, it surprises me this post has so little posts, so allow me to contribute
Did the S3 bring any surprises/disapointements?

NightSkylar said:
Well, it surprises me this post has so little posts, so allow me to contribute
Did the S3 bring any surprises/disapointements?
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One thing that depressed me, in which was easily resolved, was the ringtones, notifications and alarms. They honestly suck, you could at least give me one business class ringtone (a classic phone maybe). So anyways a quick search of the android market and I am overly satisfied again.

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One thing that depressed me, in which was easily resolved, was the ringtones, notifications and alarms. They honestly suck, you could at least give me one business class ringtone (a classic phone maybe). So anyways a quick search of the android market and I am overly satisfied again.
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Yes I must agree with you there, the ringtone selection wasn't what I had hoped for. Luckily they're apps which help resolve this issue

David Dee said:
Perfect place to post, good to see someone else joining myself and Archangel in this chat thread. Here are my answers to your questions:
1. Troll - Someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Flaming - Hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users, often involving the use of profanity.
2. If you trip the flash counter and take your phone in for warranty work, Samsung will know you have flashed unsigned firmware on your phone and may deny your warranty claim. There is a working method in place to reset your trip counter back to zero but it costs a few bucks. If you root and install a custom recovery (cwm or twrp) using this method, then flash all roms using that recovery, you will not trip the counter.
3. This is up for debate, so here are the facts. CWM is the recommended recovery for most custom roms and many developers will not provide support if you flash using another recovery. On the other side of the coin, a number of people have lost their imei flashing roms (phone cannot connect to cellular network), and a theory exists that cwm may be the culprit as no one using any other recovery has experienced this loss. I personally use twrp, a touch based recovery alternative to cwm, works well and gives me comfort on the imei issue.
One more item: If you are planning to flash custom roms, make sure to backup your imei using this method. Restoring these backups has been proven to fix the issue.
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Thank you so much for your answers!!!!
1. Ahh. We had some of those on the V ac forum.
2. Ohhhh. Well I'm hoping I'll never have to take it in for warranty work, but that's a nice fix!
3. I see. and twrp has no downsides, other than not being officially supported? Does it still flash any rom?? How is the compatibility of backups between the two recoveries?
On the V, I switched firmwares quite a bit with the Optimus S, so I know the importance of knowing all my cell info(nv backup, spc(msl), aaa key, ha key, etc.) Thanks so much for the link on how to backup all of this stuff, I'm sure it's different than the V haha.

andrewnelson23 said:
Thank you so much for your answers!!!!
1. Ahh. We had some of those on the V ac forum.
2. Ohhhh. Well I'm hoping I'll never have to take it in for warranty work, but that's a nice fix!
3. I see. and twrp has no downsides, other than not being officially supported? Does it still flash any rom?? How is the compatibility of backups between the two recoveries?
On the V, I switched firmwares quite a bit with the Optimus S, so I know the importance of knowing all my cell info(nv backup, spc(msl), aaa key, ha key, etc.) Thanks so much for the link on how to backup all of this stuff, I'm sure it's different than the V haha.
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No, backups are incompatible between twrp and cwm. I have done all of my flashing with twrp, problem free.
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Am I the the only person in semi hate with the screen i mean Engadget said pen-tile is something you wouldn't notice because of the high res but i still see it as clear as day and the whites on this phone are pretty bad. But im still going to get it over the one x even though i love sense and htc are the only droids i had i wanna try something new.

whiplash353 said:
Am I the the only person in semi hate with the screen i mean Engadget said pen-tile is something you wouldn't notice because of the high res but i still see it as clear as day and the whites on this phone are pretty bad. But im still going to get it over the one x even though i love sense and htc are the only droids i had i wanna try something new.
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You can only really see the pentile pattern if you actively look for it. It was far worse on my old Captivate because the resolution was much lower; on the S3... i haven't noticed it casually, but if I get up real close and examine the diff between red/green/blue diagonal lines, I can still see the crosshatch diff in red and blue (green is solid).
Much ado over nothing. Samsung said they returned to pentile for the S3 (vs nonpentile in the S2) because the screen lasts longer. I'm fine with that.
EDIT: And because this is OFF-TOPIC, let me just add........ Marklar marklar marklar?! Marklar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

defnow said:
Anyone watch the mars landing last night? Pretty awesome.
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I watched a simulation video of its landing sequence, and it blew my mind.
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that stuff is crazy!!! Those guys are all SO smart. wonder if any of them hang out on the forums.

Where do you guys get authoritative information about Android flashing/modding/development? Like, where does a developer go?
I've read about 10 explanations of deodexing and, while I totally get the "concept," I have lots of little questions questions (are new apps also de-odexed? how can only the first boot slow? someone said they d/l'd regular files and de-odexed himself?!). All the guides explain it simplistically. Where can I find the nitty-gritty and technical explanations of these things? Some super-guide? I don't mind reading 100 pages, as long as it's thorough and authoritative.
I used to mod Sony Ericssons and, while a little difficult, there was one flashing tool, maybe 5 skins for your media player, three or four I-know-what-I'm-doing developers, and we "rooted" using a brute-force method that took sometimes 15 hours. And there was no nitty gritty, really, because, if you could edit an XML file, you were close to the end of our knowledge, haha.

Off topic
What's be happening, Romney's new VP, Mars pics..........rooted my Galaxy SIII but still running stock rom as I like it. :laugh:

10-4, luv my Galaxy!
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Today the forums that I mark as read go back to unread. Anyone else seeing this? I also noticed that the Accessories forum under all variants always appears as read while it still has unread threads, but I assume this is because it's shared forum for all the variants... right?

[Q] (ROM) People's ROM - Just Had to do a complete unroot

Hey guys I just had to do a complete unroot on my Sprint Galaxy S3 after updating my People's ROM from version 3.10 to 3.11. 3.11 would never load and was stuck in a boot-loop. Flashed it about 4 times and could never get it to work. Re-flashed back to 3.10 but the phone would just never work right. Was loving it while it lasted but now I'm looking for something else, but something close to People's ROM. Unless kennyglass and his awesome team can get all the bugs worked out. If they do, I will re-root and flash People's again. Loved having both cams, felt that the stock kernel with the ROM was sucking down the battery. Anyone have any advice on a awesome kernel that works with most if not all ROM's and is battery efficient?
Thanks in advance for the replies. :cyclops:

bmdiz said:
Hey guys I just had to do a complete unroot on my Sprint Galaxy S3 after updating my People's ROM from version 3.10 to 3.11. 3.11 would never load and was stuck in a boot-loop. Flashed it about 4 times and could never get it to work. Re-flashed back to 3.10 but the phone would just never work right. Was loving it while it lasted but now I'm looking for something else, but something close to People's ROM. Unless kennyglass and his awesome team can get all the bugs worked out. If they do, I will re-root and flash People's again. Loved having both cams, felt that the stock kernel with the ROM was sucking down the battery. Anyone have any advice on a awesome kernel that works with most if not all ROM's and is battery efficient?
Thanks in advance for the replies. :cyclops:
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Did you check to see if you had a bad download. You should have compared the md5 sums.
And ktoonz has been giving me the best battery life with all the ROMs I have tried.
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bmdiz said:
Unless kennyglass and his awesome team can get all the bugs worked out. If they do, I will re-root and flash People's again.
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myself as well as tons of others are happy with TPR, sorry sir but there are no bugs (far as I can tell) with this great rom, as said sounds like you got a bad download. did you have nandroid backup? if you did you could have reverted back to that by going into recovery manually and used your backup, always, always, always backup before flashing anything :good: good luck

TPR has no bugs. The bugs where either on your download or on your device. TPR loads and is better than almost anything out there. I'm partial to it, but really feel insulted and I hope Kenny Rompnit and the rest of the crew don't see this insult of their work.
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WTH? Never ever i had a problem wirh TPR n I've been running it since it started n been a tester for the rom ever since I'm sure u have a bad download or did you do a clean install or a dirty install? I would give the ok on any version of tpr if there a problem with it loading or any other problems n we are the people we help anyone that needs helping did you post in tpr thread to get help from us we would have helped you anyway we could have
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Well.
1. Root your phone
2. Download TPR
3. CHECK md5
4. CHECK md5
5. Download stock kernel from freeza
6. Wipe Sytem/Data
7. Flash TPR
8. Choose no kernel in the install
9. Flash Stock kernel
10. Wipe Cache/Dalvik and Fix Permissions
11. Test all your things
12. Feedback
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Ooooh OP.. No you di'nt!
You done riled up The People now!
If only you had asked for help in thread or PM... The People are always there for each other.
AND you forgot the 1st rule of flashing... ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS Back up before flashing ANYTHING! With 1GB ROMs the chances of bad downloads and flashes are much greater.
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It seems extremely narcissistic and illogical to assume that there is absolutely no possibility that you made an honest mistake (or that a random network error resulted in a bad download). But anyone who has used TPR will immediately dismiss the OP as the words of an uninformed individual who lacks the effort and interest to become more informed. If those who have never used TPR aren't smart enough to recognize the fact that this claim completely contradicts at least 99.9% of the reports about the rom, then they probably won't be missed anyway, lol
OP, you basically managed to destroy any credibility you might have had with that one post. If you were hoping to troll up some drama, you chose the wrong forum and the wrong rom to target
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I think you did something wrong. I dont have any issues with my phone at all. Infact i been getting excellent performance and amazing battery life. Try downloading and flashing again. Make sure you flash the whole file, i had to set my laptop not to fall asleep while waiting to download the big file. I flashed mine dirty, but sounds luke you may want to wipe cache first and then flashing. Good luck
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before opening mouth and inserting foot please check md5 and make sure you are using a BB cable to transfer rom to phone
edit: and you are behind by 2 releases we are at 3.13 now

Lol. I download everything over 3g/now LTE and never had a bad download.
I had only one md5 fail transferring for the PC to a phone. 3 phones, and only mine had the fail.
I was :-0 "three phones and only mine is soft bricked. what a luck"
But also I had a NANDROID. So no worry.
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bmdiz said:
Hey guys I just had to do a complete unroot on my Sprint Galaxy S3 after updating my People's ROM from version 3.10 to 3.11. 3.11 would never load and was stuck in a boot-loop. Flashed it about 4 times and could never get it to work. Re-flashed back to 3.10 but the phone would just never work right. Was loving it while it lasted but now I'm looking for something else, but something close to People's ROM. Unless kennyglass and his awesome team can get all the bugs worked out. If they do, I will re-root and flash People's again. Loved having both cams, felt that the stock kernel with the ROM was sucking down the battery. Anyone have any advice on a awesome kernel that works with most if not all ROM's and is battery efficient?
Thanks in advance for the replies. :cyclops:
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Think it's just bad download OP, Been on TPR for quite some time, testing releases, never had an issue unless it was a bad download. ALWAYS Verify MD5. However, if you do decide TPR is not right for you, See the MoAR Thread. It's like TPR but different

edfunkycold said:
TPR has no bugs. The bugs where either on your download or on your device. TPR loads and is better than almost anything out there. I'm partial to it, but really feel insulted and I hope Kenny Rompnit and the rest of the crew don't see this insult of their work.
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Just because I may have had a bad download and/or something wrong with my device has nothing to do with me insulting anyone. I too loved TPR and was enjoying the hell out of it. There was nothing in my question/comment/post that was insulting in any way, shape, or form. I really think you're taking this someplace it doesn't need to go.

bmdiz said:
Just because I may have had a bad download and/or something wrong with my device has nothing to do with me insulting anyone. I too loved TPR and was enjoying the hell out of it. There was nothing in my question/comment/post that was insulting in any way, shape, or form. I really think you're taking this someplace it doesn't need to go.
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I believe The People took offense to your choice of words stating that the ROM had bugs and none of the responsibility was yours. Usually for someone to make such a statement there should be some corroboration. The first thing anyone should do is wipe data, redownload and reflash before stating there is a bug. And for you also to state you would return when we fix it when nothing was broken but perhaps your download is ludicrous. Next time ask for help in the ROM thread. The People are very accomodating and bend over backwards to anyone asking for help...not so much for self-righteousness.
Now with all that said, redownload 3.13 and ask in the ROM thread if you have any questions.

styles420 said:
It seems extremely narcissistic and illogical to assume that there is absolutely no possibility that you made an honest mistake (or that a random network error resulted in a bad download). But anyone who has used TPR will immediately dismiss the OP as the words of an uninformed individual who lacks the effort and interest to become more informed. If those who have never used TPR aren't smart enough to recognize the fact that this claim completely contradicts at least 99.9% of the reports about the rom, then they probably won't be missed anyway, lol
OP, you basically managed to destroy any credibility you might have had with that one post. If you were hoping to troll up some drama, you chose the wrong forum and the wrong rom to target
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I think some folks are just a bit melodramatic and take things where they don't need to go. As stated, I gave the entire team recognition for their work and enjoyed using TPR. Anyway, rather than sit there and bash someone for asking a honest question and assist me, you loose credibility from me, so, thanks for nothing. BTW: Who the hell is OP that everyone if referring to?.......... Never mind, I really don't need an answer from you about that.

bmdiz said:
I think some folks are just a bit melodramatic and take things where they don't need to go. As stated, I gave the entire team recognition for their work and enjoyed using TPR. Anyway, rather than sit there and bash someone for asking a honest question and assist me, you loose credibility from me, so, thanks for nothing. BTW: Who the hell is OP that everyone if referring to?.......... Never mind, I really don't need an answer from you about that.
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OP stands for: Original post, OR original poster (the person who started the thread)
But yeah, it seems like you offended quite a couple people. Did you check the rom thread to see if anyone else had issues with 3.13? It may be that the update required a full wipe before installing as well, as the nature of some updates require a clean flash instead of a dirty one
Personally, I always recommended checking for problems on your end before suggesting problems on the roms end. The developers put a lot of work into this and do it in their spare time, so suggesting that something they made, and tested extensively, has bugs doesnt exactly come off as a compliment
Not trying to patronize, but remember that all of this is strictly through text. Not everyone may interpret what you wrote in the way you intended for it to be interpreted or in the way you understand it

kennyglass123 said:
I believe The People took offense to your choice of words stating that the ROM had bugs and none of the responsibility was yours. Usually for someone to make such a statement there should be some corroboration. The first thing anyone should do is wipe data, redownload and reflash before stating there is a bug. And for you also to state you would return when we fix it when nothing was broken but perhaps your download is ludicrous. Next time ask for help in the ROM thread. The People are very accomodating and bend over backwards to anyone asking for help...not so much for self-righteousness.
Now with all that said, redownload 3.13 and ask in the ROM thread if you have any questions.
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Thanks kennyglass, no disrespect was intended in any way at all. I will follow your steps and will reflash TPR. If I have any issues I will PM you directly. Some folks just need to take a chill pill man.
Thanks for understanding.

How about you apologize to Kenny and the Team for saying that the rom had "bugs" and was "broken" when in fact there is nothing wrong with it. And take acceptance that you may have had a bad download, and may have not known what you where doing, and started a whole thread because you failed to seek help in the Rom thread where you should have in the first place. It's not that I wanted to pick on you it's your choice of words and lack of knowledge when it comes to flashing. It's better to ask questions and ask for help than to make FALSE accusations and statements in a public forum.
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edfunkycold said:
How about you apologize to Kenny and the Team for saying that the rom had "bugs" and was "broken" when in fact there is nothing wrong with it. And take acceptance that you may have had a bad download, and may have not known what you where doing, and started a whole thread because you failed to seek help in the Rom thread where you should have in the first place. It's not that I wanted to pick on you it's your choice of words and lack of knowledge when it comes to flashing. It's better to ask questions and ask for help than to make FALSE accusations and statements in a public forum.
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Check your PM PAL