Granted I haven't had my hand on the new Samsung Galaxy SII but looking at (I hate to say engadget review on the hardware) I think this would be an ultimate flagship design for wp7 (I know the processor hasn't been approved) but man that device looks nice and I have been very happy with my focus for a while now I am wanting this bad boy (am I bad I have had an HTC for the last 6yrs).
Mental diarrhea sprayed onto an XDA post. Nice work!
dreaming is not diarrhea lol
The Os performs great with the current standards if they are going to make a tiered version (which they will if Nokia intends on making a low cost wp7) why not make a high dollar one?
Yes its android its gud
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Actually, watching the video on Engadget, it still lags (Android I mean)...
Yes, GS2 with WP7 FTW!
I think GS2 is currently the ultimate phone.
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Yes, GS2 with WP7 FTW!
I think GS2 is currently the ultimate phone.
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Yeah, the specs are nice...but it's ugly, as was the Galaxy S
Why can't the do a design like the Galaxy S had in the Gorgio Armani edition? Or something like the SE X10?
The Omnia7 is the only Samsung high-end phone that looks good (could be better but at least it has edges and isn't rounded everywhere).
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Yeah, the specs are nice...but it's ugly, as was the Galaxy S
Why can't the do a design like the Galaxy S had in the Gorgio Armani edition? Or something like the SE X10?
The Omnia7 is the only Samsung high-end phone that looks good (could be better but at least it has edges and isn't rounded everywhere).
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So you like Captivate
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So you like Captivate
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Yeah, that one looks like the Armani Edition -really nice. I may have ended up with Android when the Galaxy S in Austria looked like this. So I waited for a decent phone and finally ended up with the Omnia7...it has been a good decision after all
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Actually, watching the video on Engadget, it still lags (Android I mean)...
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if you notice, he's doing a full screen screen capture, while using the camera, with sound, in720p, I wouldn't call that lag, I'd call it awesome.
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if you notice, he's doing a full screen screen capture, while using the camera, with sound, in720p, I wouldn't call that lag, I'd call it awesome.
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I think he means in normal operations the lag is there. Which it is, let's be real. Android lags, till google changes their h/w graphics acceleration, that won't be changing
That said, I was thinking that wp7 may need a few flagship dual cores just to make itself viable for users. Many will say look at android - dual core. Look at apple iphone - dual core [soon] and wp7 no...
I think by January there needs to be dual core optimized code and ASAP. As far as the G II, the screen looks amazing. Samoled has spoiled me in the focus and the (god awful) dvp. So I may consider that as an option especially if there are devs for samsung platform.
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I think he means in normal operations the lag is there. Which it is, let's be real. Android lags, till google changes their h/w graphics acceleration, that won't be changing
That said, I was thinking that wp7 may need a few flagship dual cores just to make itself viable for users. Many will say look at android - dual core. Look at apple iphone - dual core [soon] and wp7 no...
I think by January there needs to be dual core optimized code and ASAP. As far as the G II, the screen looks amazing. Samoled has spoiled me in the focus and the (god awful) dvp. So I may consider that as an option especially if there are devs for samsung platform.
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What I was saying/hinting in order to make a statement (which don't get me wrong everyone including my girl that I have let play with my wp7 want one and thats coming from iphone/android). But at the gym last night there was a guy with a attrix with a wp7 skin and I slapped him (silly foul for fun) because he was false claiming lol (forgive me its Friday). But really they need a wow factor phone because basically alot of people just buy for specs I hate to say (like people @ the gym I workout at) all they talk about is my phone has a 5-8mp camera and a dual processor blah blah, and I just said my phone works and quite well.
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I think he means in normal operations the lag is there. Which it is, let's be real. Android lags, till google changes their h/w graphics acceleration, that won't be changing
That said, I was thinking that wp7 may need a few flagship dual cores just to make itself viable for users. Many will say look at android - dual core. Look at apple iphone - dual core [soon] and wp7 no...
I think by January there needs to be dual core optimized code and ASAP. As far as the G II, the screen looks amazing. Samoled has spoiled me in the focus and the (god awful) dvp. So I may consider that as an option especially if there are devs for samsung platform.
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ahhhhh, ok i see it! I wonder if that is a beta hardware, or what version software its running. oddly, I haven't used a ota update or stock rom since the 1.x days. lag is something I just haven't experienced since then... and it puzzles me when I see so many commnets about it really.,
Lag has been the signature of Samsung Galaxy S. It remains to be seen that if S2 can improve on that. The reasons are two folds:
1. The Android OS's own problem (lack of hardware accel and poor garbage collection)
2. Samsung's insistence of using its antiquated RFS file system which is significantly worse than the common ext2 or 4 file system.
And there is really on dual-core support in Android OS in the immediate future. The Dalvik VM used in Android is single core only. Currently only the tablet OS, Honeycomb, supports dual-core.
In the end, what a waste of that beautiful hardware!
Nice work。。。。
Would love this with WP7.
You guys should read the review. No lag, only sign of it is when doing a expose with fully loaded home screens. Even then it was barely noticeable.
Browsing was smooth on flash heavy sites. Read the entire review and watch the videos.
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You guys should read the review. No lag, only sign of it is when doing a expose with fully loaded home screens. Even then it was barely noticeable.
Browsing was smooth on flash heavy sites. Read the entire review and watch the videos.
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we did hence the discussion about the LAG. Look I like the specs myself because they would make any developer salivate and want to at least test it for a spell - myself included. But even still, lag is lag and it's there.
We can call out all of wp inconsistencies till the cow comes home but do it to android its a fight. It's a pretty rational discussion about the SII and there have been no flames. Us, just like you, have watched the video and read the reviews. Let's not assume no one hasn't
And there is really on dual-core support in Android OS in the immediate future. The Dalvik VM used in Android is single core only. Currently only the tablet OS, Honeycomb, supports dual-core.
In the end, what a waste of that beautiful hardware!
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Technically most android d/cs...
for the moment again until something at android changes
A slight jerk one time, is that considered lag?
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You guys should read the review. No lag, only sign of it is when doing a expose with fully loaded home screens. Even then it was barely noticeable.
Browsing was smooth on flash heavy sites. Read the entire review and watch the videos.
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My hd7 is lagy and inernet browsing is pain full with ie ****
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A recent article by Android and me commented on the new chips set in the galaxy S and its supposed 90 million triangles a second compared to the nexus ones 20 million,
making the galaxy a superior gaming device,
will desire have the same power as the nexus as they share basically the same chip set?
Love to hear your thoughts !
Yes. It is using same Snapdragon chipset.
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A recent article by Android and me commented on the new chips set in the galaxy S and its supposed 90 million triangles a second compared to the nexus ones 20 million,
making the galaxy a superior gaming device,
will desire have the same power as the nexus as they share basically the same chip set?
Love to hear your thoughts !
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/samsungs-galaxy-s-has-four-times-the-polygon-power-of-snapdrago/
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Yes, I already have read this article... Would love to get the Samsung, but Samsung Update policy is seriously bad!
Got the I7500 and I swore not to buy another Samsung device.
and here is a comparison of the gpus:
http://androidandme.com/2010/03/new...bird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/
I know the fact the desire is htc makes it appealing,
but that chip set is too good to miss,
the UI sucks on the samsung as well,
but still that chipset nags
I guess we need to wait and see when both are out and running games, i mean the droid has lower specs according to this and can run a few games better than the nexus,
I just dont want to buy a desire then realise that the chipset is outdated with a few months
Sadly that statement will always be the same, no matter what phone you get now there will be something better not to far down the line, you can end up waiting forever if you want the best.
I never really got into gaming on mobiles i can't see the point they look rubbish.
ye but i mean the galaxy is out now as well i meant as games develop and the desire would fall to the galaxy s
stickyasglue said:
ye but i mean the galaxy is out now as well i meant as games develop and the desire would fall to the galaxy s
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the galaxy is out now?! Oo.. i don´t think so, it´s due in july i think..
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A recent article by Android and me commented on the new chips set in the galaxy S and its supposed 90 million triangles a second compared to the nexus ones 20 million,
making the galaxy a superior gaming device,
will desire have the same power as the nexus as they share basically the same chip set?
Love to hear your thoughts !
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Pretty irrelevant unfortunately as Samsung offer terrible hardware support so all that power will only be to the detriment of battery life.
I don't care if it has a quad core NASA processor in it; Samsung won't develop any means of utilising it and the Galaxy S will prove to be a powerful letdown just like the Omnia HD. I will never buy a Samsung phone again. They can suck my fat one.
The-Nazgul said:
Yes, I already have read this article... Would love to get the Samsung, but Samsung Update policy is seriously bad!
Got the I7500 and I swore not to buy another Samsung device.
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Galaxy S is a "with google" android phone. I expect this means better Google support
S5PC110 1Ghz (is the latest Intrinsity ARM Cortex-A8 based processor, A.K.A "Hummingbird", 45 nm with Fast14 tech and ARM NEON extensions) + PowerVR SGX540 (better GPU that iphone's 3GS previous PowerVR SGX535) + 4 inchs Super AMOLED screen= winner
But they have there own interface. So direct updates by google arent possible.
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But they have there own interface. So direct updates by google arent possible.
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No touchWiz UI inside Galaxy S. If you are talking about APIs then I don't know.
Samsung Galaxy is indeed more powerful compare to HTC Desire, but I personally would wait HTC product to top that
At this moment, HTC Desire is much more than enough, at least for me and it is sexier ... While the Samsung Galaxy is more like iPhone which I dont like at all. I dont want to be associated with any Apple product!
pr0orz1337 said:
Galaxy S is a "with google" android phone. I expect this means better Google support
S5PC110 1Ghz (is the latest Intrinsity ARM Cortex-A8 based processor, A.K.A "Hummingbird", 45 nm with Fast14 tech and ARM NEON extensions) + PowerVR SGX540 (better GPU that iphone's 3GS PowerVR SGX535) + 4 inchs Super AMOLED screen= winner
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I'm an H.T.C. fan too!. HTC build the thinnest phones and this is sexy but now the concept thin implies superAMOLED. If HTC build superAMOLED devices I'll be their first customer.
PD: I can assure you that Apple will never release an Android phone.
gogol said:
Samsung Galaxy is indeed more powerful compare to HTC Desire, but I personally would wait HTC product to top that
At this moment, HTC Desire is much more than enough, at least for me and it is sexier ... While the Samsung Galaxy is more like iPhone which I dont like at all. I dont want to be associated with any Apple product!
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Does 'with google' really mean anything or do people just assume it means constant updates? I don't see Android 2.1 on the Magic or G1....I'm sure that they're perfectly capable of running it with perhaps the exclusion of live wallpapers.
Fact that It's Samsung is enough to turn me off, their phones have been nothing but letdowns for me, and that shiny plasticy Samsung 'look' is wearing a bit thin now.
HTC have proven that a device can be better than its competitors just because of the software. compare the Hero with, say the Motorola Dext: the Dext has everything the hero has, a nice build quality and a pretty nice hardware keyboard BUT the MOTOblur software is ugly, confusing crap and as a result the user experience is pretty crap. If HTC had made the Dext I'd be using it now as I love the build quality
dupped, Sorry!
'with google' can't fight against lack of RAM.
leoni1980 said:
Does 'with google' really mean anything or do people just assume it means constant updates? I don't see Android 2.1 on the Magic or G1....I'm sure that they're perfectly capable of running it with perhaps the exclusion of live wallpapers.
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So basically 'with Google' is a bit of a cludge.
I assumed that the core of 2.1 was transferable across all spec and that the Nexus One's embelllishments we exclusive to that phone. If not then there's going to be nothing to set the Nexus one apart from everything else once more 'with Google' devices start rolling out.
I am an avid android fan, and I plan on staying an android user.
This post is out of pure technical curiosity.
How do you guys think the incoming iphone 5 will stack up compared to our phones? How do you think it will stack up compared to the nexus prime?
I am just looking for a good discussion.
As far as I know, if Samsung is supplying it's parts, it should be on par with the SGSII.
Hardware wise = A little lower specs than our phones.
Software wise = Outdated.
Overstew said:
As far as I know, if Samsung is supplying it's parts, it should be on par with the SGSII.
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I don't believe samsung is supplying as much as usual.
The processor is unique to apply.
The screen will be unique to apply, etc.
Honestly, I don't see the internals of the phone matching/ or at least outpacing the sgsII. But I do wonder how the screen will stack up. Yes, our screen is great, but the lower resolution, and the fact that apple makes great screens....may well spell a win for apple.
In terms of software...we all know that IOS is very fluid. But honestly, how much can a phone be more fluid then our epic 4g touch? This phone is ridiculously smooth. I didn't know such performance was achievable on android 2.3.
We also know ios is looking to narrow the gap in terms of software features with a revamp notification area, etc. But, correct me if I am wrong, I believe apple will still lack turn by turn navigation....which is a big deal to me. The rumored voice control will be nice, but nothing way ahead of what android already offers.
iSaint said:
Hardware wise = A little lower specs than our phones.
Software wise = Outdated.
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Which phone will be outdated? Why?
Not wanting to be rude but who cares unless you are thinking of buying an iPhone.
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Not wanting to be rude but who cares unless you are thinking of buying an iPhone.
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Did you read the post? The purpose was to facilitate discussion.
You honestly don't have to read it, or reply to it.
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Did you read the post? The purpose was to facilitate discussion.
You honestly don't have to read it, or reply to it.
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I read it, but the still same thing comes to my head....who cares. I don't plan on buying one so to me why post about something that won't build up the ET4G or any android device. This should be in the apple forums lol....just saying.
QWIKSTRIKE said:
I read it, but the still same thing comes to my head....who cares. I don't plan on buying one so to me why post about something that won't build up the ET4G or any android device. This should be in the apple forums lol....just saying.
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So again, I repeat, don't reply. Just leave it alone.
If no one cares, let the thread die, and I apologize for anyone I bothered.
Well I am with you here, you can trigger the discussion about something and you never know when some one with some inside news or a link might chime in.
Software? I couldn't care less about.
Hardware...that's what I want to know. I'm curious as to what the screen will be. Bigger? Same size?
iPhone 5
Im more the Android fan, but i must say, the internal hardware of the new iphone 5 is certainly impressive from what i've read!
People lately really been taking advantage of free speech, like it's that important to let us know you don't care.. Gtfo
That is not this threads intention anyway.
Now on topic, I honestly feel with only the release of the gs2 we will do well against the tyrant apple lol
.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.
How come someone give an opinion on how the SGS2 will stack up against the iPhone 5 when no one knows what is even in the iPhone 5. Seems like a pointless discussion........
Honestly on the hardware front, nothing can touch the galaxy s 2 with the mali gpu and exynos processor. Well, nothing in a smartphone that is. But, the Ipad2 with the PowerVR SGX 540 and A5 processor wins in all the benchmarks that anandtech threw at it. A natural progression would predict that Apple will throw the A5 processor in the Iphone 5. So hardware wise if this is true than the Iphone 5 will be a beast. But, it really is going to come down to preference. Because anything you throw @ my epic touch, the epic touch throws it right back with grace. Most likely the Iphone 5 will do the same. Performance wise I dont think we will see a difference. So, it will come down to software preference. I own an Epic touch because I wanted the best Android experience out there. And in my opinion I have that right now. But, some people like the simple to use IOS. I plan to get my girl the Iphone 5 so she can just use it and stop bothering me for messing with her phone (my old OG evo 4g).
Source:
1. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
hayabusa1300cc said:
People lately really been taking advantage of free speech, like it's that important to let us know you don't care.. Gtfo
That is not this threads intention anyway.
Now on topic, I honestly feel with only the release of the gs2 we will do well against the tyrant apple lol
.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.
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...How do you guys think the incoming iphone 5 will stack up compared to our phones? How do you think it will stack up compared to the nexus prime?
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If the iPhone 5 indeed has the A5 dual core processor (same that's in the iPad 2), and they haven't clocked up the speed much, I wouldn't expect much. I used an iPad 2 for a while and after getting the GS2 it doesn't compare. The performance of the GS2 destroys the performance of the iPad 2 (different devices, I know, but I've never owned and iPhone...)
Also, iOS has a LONG way to go before it can compete with Android. It was awesome about 2 years ago, but it was left in the dust long ago.
My biggest gripe about Android was that it was buggy and it took a lot to keep it working properly, but with this phone that's not a problem anymore. I have yet to find a reason to root (rooting would be nice for certain things, but it doesn't feel necessary like it has with other Android devices I've owned).
So how will the 3 compare? I think: Prime > GS2 > iPhone 5. With the gap between the Prime and GS2 tiny, of course...
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...But, the Ipad2 with the PowerVR SGX 540 and A5 processor wins in all the benchmarks that anandtech threw at it. A natural progression would predict that Apple will throw the A5 processor in the Iphone 5. So hardware wise if this is true than the Iphone 5 will be a beast. But, it really is going to come down to preference....
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I guess I've never looked at pure benchmarks, and maybe it's just the differences between Android and iOS, but the iPad2 seems less snappy and more cumbersome than this phone.
Granted, Apple has had 6-8 months to work out bugs with the A5, so I'd imagine they'll throw an updated OS with the iPhone 5.
Though there is a reason I'm typing this on an Android forum and not an iOS forum... I just like Android better.
Apple is proly gonna do what sammy did to them
Wait for competitor to release product
Revise product to one up competitor
Release product
Ex ipad 2 galaxy tab 10.1
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I've been wondering if they do in fact increase the screen size if they will increase the resolution to keep with their 'retina display.' To be honest, the samoled screen can't be beat in many areas, however higher resolution and pixel density is very key and because of that I actually prefer the screen of the ns4g to the sgs2. One reason I hope the prime isn't released with an ungodly large display.
tapa tapa tapa
MoMatt said:
I guess I've never looked at pure benchmarks, and maybe it's just the differences between Android and iOS, but the iPad2 seems less snappy and more cumbersome than this phone.
Granted, Apple has had 6-8 months to work out bugs with the A5, so I'd imagine they'll throw an updated OS with the iPhone 5.
Though there is a reason I'm typing this on an Android forum and not an iOS forum... I just like Android better.
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I also own an Ipad 2. I bought it for my girl. When it comes to web browsing, even though technically the Ipad 2 is faster hardware, my Epic Touch browses alot faster than the Ipad 2. Actually my girl complains about the web browsing speed of the Ipad 2. That is because the way Samsung optimized the stock browser on the Eipc Touch. Samsung actually uses the same technique on the back end that Apple uses with their Safari browser. Difference is Samsung does it alot better. I know this through everyday use of both products.
But, that is beside the point. I am in the same Android forum as you are because I am still more akin to my precious and highly customizable Android OS.
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Source:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/4
This phone WILL be better than the iphone5... I and its not even announced yet. And that's comparing everything.. I except maybe the screen
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How about we collect all the reviews we find of the release version of the Nexus?
Here are all the reviews in this thread collected:
Mobile Syrup
Cnet
The Verge
Engadget First Impressions
gazedice
First Look from Wired
First day with the Nexus from Techcrunch
Mashable
Android Central initial Review
Cnet review
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-nexus/4505-6452_7-35042961.html#reviewPage1
The Verge
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The Verge
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That one was EPIC !
Amazing how Josh Topolsky goes from annoying android fanboy to pretty regular and an Android fan soon as he's gone from Engadget.
Im noticing that the 4.65 screen is more like 4.3 usable screen. Makes getting a different phone less painful outside of the obvious Res advantage.
Bummer that the camera isnt best in class after the efforts made.
The one from engadget
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...tegory=classic&postPage=2&icid=eng_latest_art
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Samsung Galaxy Nexus video review roundup
http://gazedice.com/2011/11/17/samsung-galaxy-nexus-video-review-roundup/
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Cnet review
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-nexus/4505-6452_7-35042961.html#reviewPage1
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"Though we were hoping that it would be different, the Galaxy Nexus still has that slight laggy effect that we've seen on other Android phones. Indeed, you'll notice it here when scrolling through lists. It is better than we've seen on previous models, so it doesn't ruin the touch interface, but you do notice the difference when switching from an iOS or Windows Phone 7 device."
I thought Hardware Acceleration will line up android smoothness with IOS and WP7
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"Though we were hoping that it would be different, the Galaxy Nexus still has that slight laggy effect that we've seen on other Android phones. Indeed, you'll notice it here when scrolling through lists. It is better than we've seen on previous models, so it doesn't ruin the touch interface, but you do notice the difference when switching from an iOS or Windows Phone 7 device."
I thought Hardware Acceleration will line up android smoothness with IOS and WP7
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Funny, every video I've ever seen of it, the interface looks smooth as anything out there.
omrij said:
"Though we were hoping that it would be different, the Galaxy Nexus still has that slight laggy effect that we've seen on other Android phones. Indeed, you'll notice it here when scrolling through lists. It is better than we've seen on previous models, so it doesn't ruin the touch interface, but you do notice the difference when switching from an iOS or Windows Phone 7 device."
I thought Hardware Acceleration will line up android smoothness with IOS and WP7
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It probably doesn't have anything to do with "lag" as it appears on non-hardware accelerated devices, but with the touchscreen not being sensitive enough(trails finger). This can and will be tweaked(just look at the SGS2). Also I wouldn't trust CNET that much.
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It probably doesn't have anything to do with "lag" as it appears on non-hardware accelerated devices, but with the touchscreen not being sensitive enough(trails finger). This can and will be tweaked(just look at the SGS2). Also I wouldn't trust CNET that much.
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I'm not even sure if they have even the slightest basis for stating that, like they claim that they have eliminated the learning curve in some aspects, but re-created it in others. I can't really see where they've done that.
I also disagree with that it's "Just another Android device" without ICS, it's true that it's definitely not anything like the Nexus One when it was released, but i will say that the screen, no buttons and zero-shutter lag(That is a hardware thing, right?) does atleast differentiate it from every other android phone out there.
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I'm not even sure if they have even the slightest basis for stating that, like they claim that they have eliminated the learning curve in some aspects, but re-created it in others. I can't really see where they've done that.
I also disagree with that it's "Just another Android device" without ICS, it's true that it's definitely not anything like the Nexus One when it was released, but i will say that the screen, no buttons and zero-shutter lag(That is a hardware thing, right?) does atleast differentiate it from every other android phone out there.
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Most of her complaints stem from the fact that it's not obvious that swiping left and right does things.
This is really pretty ridiculous. Once you learn this motif, it's consistent across a lot of stuff. It's a very slight learning curve that brings an enormous amount of utility. She's complaining that it has a learning curve at all, which is absolutely ridiculous. Nobody would want to use a device that has zero learning curve - it would take forever to do anything.
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http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-nexus/4505-6452_7-35042961.html#reviewPage1
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You can tell from their tone that they just don't like the Galaxy Nexus.
"GPS features performed well, though we were a little wary given the GPS issues that have plagued previous Samsung Galaxy devices."
"Just keep in mind that the Galaxy Nexus has just 32GB of internal memory."
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You can tell from their tone that they just don't like the Galaxy Nexus.
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I got that feeling too...I was confused why they rated it so high, since there seemed to be a lot of those passive-aggressive negative statements throughout the review.
So far I would say that the review from 'the vert' is the best.
They have very nice pictures and a very good writing style. In addition he makes you very excited about the phone but is still honest enough to admit it's weaknesses. I personally really like this site and how they are doing their work.
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The Engadget video is of very low quality! The background is a bad choice and is not leveled well. The GN keeps sliding down and it made me stop watching the video. Too irritating.
The quality of the The Verge video is awsome!
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So far I would say that the review from 'the vert' is the best.
They have very nice pictures and a very good writing style. In addition he makes you very excited about the phone but is still honest enough to admit it's weaknesses. I personally really like this site and how they are doing their work.
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Agree, the verge review is the most accurate
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Updated the 1st post and found some new links.
http://mashable.com/2011/11/17/samsung-galaxy-nexus-review/
http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/17/my...us-and-ice-cream-sandwich-this-is-really-big/
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/11/galaxy-nexus-android/
Found another one.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-hands-video-and-initial-review
Did Google make a BIG MISTAKE by putting a weak GPU in a phone with 720p Display?
I love this live wallpaper, but it makes the UI lag horribly!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tokyopop.wallpaper.panda.free
However, it's smooth on the Nexus S.
It's not a complex live wallpaper, it barely moves at all, yet the GN can't handle it?
When I first read that Google decided to use a 2-3yr old GPU in the Nexus, I thought, okay, it might be alright if the OS is optimized to use it, but now it seems like Google made a HUGE MISTAKE and should've gone with the most powerful and current GPU available.
Why do companies do this??!
Even Google employees admit, in their G+ blogs that the GN has A LOT OF PIXELS to push! So, knowing that, what did they use a weak ass GPU??
I love my phone but I wished Google would stop f'ckng up like this.
I suspect you are jumping to conclusions when you blame the hardware for this issue.
I just downloaded it for the hell of it and it ran just fine on mine. I am using NOVA launcher but I don't seem to have any problems with it. Try NOVA launcher and see if you get the same lag.
Not all the Live Wallpapers are enabled for hardware acceleration so become laggy - it's not Google's fault, it's the dev of the wallpaper for not enabling it
There are only two GPUs better, Mali-400 (SGS2) and 543 (iPhone 4S) so I think you should read more tech stuff before call it weak.
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Read this:
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
Some have raised points along the lines of Samsung Galaxy S2 phones already having a smoother UI and indicating that they are doing something different vs. the Galaxy Nexus. When comparing individual devices though you really need to look at all of the factors. For example, the S2's screen is 480x800 vs. the Galaxy Nexus at 720x1280. If the Nexus S could already do 60fps for simple UIs on its 480x800, the CPU in the S2's is even better off.
The real important difference between these two screens is just that the Galaxy Nexus has 2.4x as many pixels that need to be drawn as the S2. This means that to achieve the same efficiency at drawing the screen, you need a CPU that can run a single core at 2.4x the speed (and rendering a UI for a single app is essentially not parallelizable, so multiple cores isn't going to save you).
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Don't really think its the gpu. I run games that are very 3d heavy with little to no lag at all. I think I read somewhere that some live wall papers are not optimized for ics just yet. Hence why the ones that come with the gnex (phase beam) have no lag.
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Neo3D said:
Read this:
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
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Of course it makes sense. Those of us with slow computers/gpu can always get some extra FPS in games by lowering the resolution. Fewer pixels = less work.
From what someone else said above, it appears the developer of this particular wallpaper may not have enabled hardware acceleration. If that's the case, the specifics of the GPU are not even related to this problem.
joelteixeira said:
There are only two GPUs better, Mali-400 (SGS2) and 543 (iPhone 4S) so I think you should read more tech stuff before call it weak.
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Oh, and just a side note. It's not the "same" from three years ago. The chipset used before was 4430 and now 4460, working on 384Mhz.
I strongly suggest you to read this:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4413/ti-announces-omap-4470-and-specs-powervr-sgx544-18-ghz-dual-core-cortexa9
holmes6 said:
Of course it makes sense. Those of us with slow computers/gpu can always get some extra FPS in games by lowering the resolution. Fewer pixels = less work.
From what someone else said above, it appears the developer of this particular wallpaper may not have enabled hardware acceleration. If that's the case, the specifics of the GPU are not even related to this problem.
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But, it makes you wonder, if Google KNEW that it takes a more powerful CPU/GPU to push 2.4x more pixels, why did not use the latest CPU/GPU's available to them?
Neo3D said:
Read this:
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
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Title of thread says gpu. However now you are talking about cpu (with what you quoted).
Make up your mind on whats weak?
Neo3D said:
But, it makes you wonder, if Google KNEW that it takes a more powerful CPU/GPU to push 2.4x more pixels, why did not use the latest CPU/GPU's available to them?
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Samsung might have a winner with Exynos, but for whatever reason, they do not work with high speed radios. This includes Tmobile's high speed network (The 42mbps one) and Verizon's LTE.
So, who do you blame? Google? Nah.
Could Samsung have equipped the GSM Galaxy Nexus with Exynos 4210? YES.
Would the Exynos support LTE? NO.
Will Verizon be the #1 customer of the Galaxy Nexus? YES.
Therefore, was it cheaper to use one base hardware configuration that can accept both HSPA+ and LTE-enabled radios? YES.
Now you know why the SGN uses OMAP4.
Neo3D said:
Did Google make a BIG MISTAKE by putting a weak GPU in a phone with 720p Display?
love this live wallpaper, but it makes the UI lag horribly!
it seems like Google made a HUGE MISTAKE and should've gone with the most powerful and current GPU available.
I love my phone but I wished Google would stop f'ckng up like this.
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GPU is good
just think of it like car names, same name different model year
new improvements, knowledge, manufacturing process, and material technology
That said, everything perfectly smooth with Panda Wallpaper on 4.0.3 w/ 384mhz GPU.
You'll either have to wait for the official 4.0.3 (or better) release or flash custom rom or.... different phone
I think with the Galaxy Nexus, Google decided to showcase how better optimized the new OS version is. Manufacturers, like many mainly Android OEMs seem to be guilty of overpowered, not so optimized phones and using this as a justification for a premium price tag.
The Galaxy Nexus with it's "modest" specs in my opinion runs pretty smoothly, Android really has come a long way in terms of optimization and better process handling. That being said it isn't perfect yet, but then again it is the first release of this OS version, even other ecosystems are not exempt of such hiccups.
I think the question in this thread goes the opposite direction. Why did google choose this gpu? Because they purposely knew it was more than capable even with the higher res screen.
What i dont believe is that google shipped these live wallpapers that arent running correctly on this version. Thats a bone head move on them. The gpu can easily handle them as you can see by running certain ones. But its just not coded properly for the new nwxus.
And yes the nexus s may run them fine. But different hardware means strange issues arise that can be fixed hopefully quickly. I just dont believe that this gpu is a bad piece at all.
I am not sure if the blame goes to Google or more on Samsung who actually builds the phone.
Bottom line is, the "Nexus" phones are low sellers, don't make much money at all for Samsung or Google, compared to the more popular devices.
Yes us nerds complain about the hardware choice in the Galaxy-Nexus, but we are but a small .01% of the Android purchasers.
Samsung is kicking ass with the Galaxy SII, and the SIII is due out in Spring, their big money maker. The Nexus is but a blip on the radar in the big market picture.
This is a beta phone to test Android 4.0 ICS
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stere0xide said:
I think with the Galaxy Nexus, Google decided to showcase how better optimized the new OS version is. Manufacturers, like many mainly Android OEMs seem to be guilty of overpowered, not so optimized phones and using this as a justification for a premium price tag.
The Galaxy Nexus with it's "modest" specs in my opinion runs pretty smoothly, Android really has come a long way in terms of optimization and better process handling. That being said it isn't perfect yet, but then again it is the first release of this OS version, even other ecosystems are not exempt of such hiccups.
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That isn't the case at all. Google wanted to put a piece of technology that was stable in this phone to showcase ICS. It has a higher clock speed than this "old" gpu you're talking about anyways.
Thracks nailed it.
You're complaining about the GNex having SGX 540 with a 1280x720 display, but you forget than most tablets use WEAKER GPUs to push 1280x800 (Tegra 2 is tied only on a few workloads).
The SGX 540 is more than adequate. Besides it's a really bad idea to try hot new hardware with hot new software, that's just asking for a disaster; Google decided to use a true and tested chipset, which is a better idea for a REFERENCE PHONE. It sets the bare minimum for a good ICS experience. If you want a powerful device, grab the Galaxy S III when it comes out.
Neo3D said:
Did Google make a BIG MISTAKE by putting a weak GPU in a phone with 720p Display?
I love this live wallpaper, but it makes the UI lag horribly!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tokyopop.wallpaper.panda.free
However, it's smooth on the Nexus S.
It's not a complex live wallpaper, it barely moves at all, yet the GN can't handle it?
When I first read that Google decided to use a 2-3yr old GPU in the Nexus, I thought, okay, it might be alright if the OS is optimized to use it, but now it seems like Google made a HUGE MISTAKE and should've gone with the most powerful and current GPU available.
Why do companies do this??!
Even Google employees admit, in their G+ blogs that the GN has A LOT OF PIXELS to push! So, knowing that, what did they use a weak ass GPU??
I love my phone but I wished Google would stop f'ckng up like this.
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I was just about to put you on blast for this panda wallpaper but I just noticed your a chick lol.
As someone suggested before try nova launcher. Runs smooth on mine... Adwex had choppy apw widgets so I switched to nova and chop no more. Guess it goes for live wallpapers too
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The nexus phones always seem to be missing some crucial features that prevent them from destroying all the competition.
The nexus S had 480p recording which was a shocker since every high end phone was coming with HD video recording. It also never had a 32GB variant which didnt make sense since there was no card slot. Isnt google competing with apple?
Okay now the situation is a bit different with the galaxy nexus. It brings forward the sharpest SAMOLED screen to date but it just couldn't do without those shockers.
It turns out its the dimmest SAMOLED screen on any phone, hurrah samsung this is supposed to have the greatest display. It could still be said to have but the brightness seriously puts a dent on it.
5MP camera anyone? And yes MP dont matter that much but the overall quality of the nexus camera just doesnt compare with the S2 and iphone 4S.
720p resolution but weak GPU in a world of android where game optimization is poor? Ya that one puts a nail in the coffin for me.
And then where is the 32GB galaxy nexus? A phone with 1080p recording is only 16GB with no card slot? Really google?
When apple upgraded the GPU for the new ipad, it showed me they plan things with applications as the priority. Google on the other hand slapped a regular chipset for a 720p pentile screen that isnt actually HD but requires the GPU to output a million pixels.
Dont mind me guys I know you are all happy with your phones. I am a nexus S owner looking to upgrade but it seems like I will have to sacrifice software support for my next phone for better hardware and performance.
So then who is to blame? People say samsung and it makes sense in a way. Samsung doesnt own the nexus brand and if samsung makes this killer nexus phone that goes on to be a best seller, google could simply ask some other manufacturer to make the next nexus phone as they are not tied to anyone. So some other company benefits from a brand name that samsung helped establish as a top one.
On the other hand is google really that powerless to not be able to just tell samsung what they want in their phone?? It could very well be the case that google itself doesnt want it's nexus to utterly destroy everything else like the S2 did. Google doesnt want to discourage other manufacturers. There is one big thing which google miss out in all of this, it's nexus phone doesnt dominate the iphone feature wise the way it really should.
So your thoughts?
Gambler_3 said:
The nexus phones always seem to be missing some crucial features that prevent them from destroying all the competition.
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They're not *supposed* to be "destroying the competition". Nexus devices are meant to serve as an example for the direction they want Android to take. That's it.
The nexus S had 480p recording which was a shocker since every high end phone was coming with HD video recording. It also never had a 32GB variant which didnt make sense since there was no card slot. Isnt google competing with apple?
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No. Google is not competing with Apple. All they care about is that you (and iPhone users) continue to use google.com. Android serves that purpose. The Nexus serves as a guidepost for Android.
Okay now the situation is a bit different with the galaxy nexus. It brings forward the sharpest SAMOLED screen to date but it just couldn't do without those shockers.
It turns out its the dimmest SAMOLED screen on any phone, hurrah samsung this is supposed to have the greatest display. It could still be said to have but the brightness seriously puts a dent on it.
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Um. Ok.
5MP camera anyone? And yes MP dont matter that much but the overall quality of the nexus camera just doesnt compare with the S2 and iphone 4S.
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That's because Google wanted to emphasize a camera with instant photo capture. The Galaxy Nexus takes worse photos than my Nexus S 4g.
720p resolution but weak GPU in a world of android where game optimization is poor? Ya that one puts a nail in the coffin for me.
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Ok, then get another phone. Easy solution, no?
And then where is the 32GB galaxy nexus? A phone with 1080p recording is only 16GB with no card slot? Really google?
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The 1080p is only at 10mbps...
Either way, having limited space actually serves google's interests once again, as they want you to use Google+ sync for photos, and Google Music to stream music.
MTP so users don't have to bother mounting their phones' storage.
A modest GPU to show how much hardware acceleration can help the experience on even "older" chipsets.
You (and I) don't have to like it. Not at all. But them's the breaks. There are a LOT of other phones with better specs.
When apple upgraded the GPU for the new ipad, it showed me they plan things with applications as the priority. Google on the other hand slapped a regular chipset for a 720p pentile screen that isnt actually HD but requires the GPU to output a million pixels.
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Cool.
Dont mind me guys I know you are all happy with your phones. I am a nexus S owner looking to upgrade but it seems like I will have to sacrifice software support for my next phone for better hardware and performance.
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Yes, yes you will.
So then who is to blame? People say samsung and it makes sense in a way. Samsung doesnt own the nexus brand and if samsung makes this killer nexus phone that goes on to be a best seller, google could simply ask some other manufacturer to make the next nexus phone as they are not tied to anyone. So some other company benefits from a brand name that samsung helped establish as a top one.
On the other hand is google really that powerless to not be able to just tell samsung what they want in their phone?? It could very well be the case that google itself doesnt want it's nexus to utterly destroy everything else like the S2 did. Google doesnt want to discourage other manufacturers. There is one big thing which google miss out in all of this, it's nexus phone doesnt dominate the iphone feature wise the way it really should.
So your thoughts?
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You are to blame for owning a Nexus already, and yet not understanding the point of Google creating Nexus devices.
The Nexus S was no trend-setter either. It was a GalaxyS but without an SD card. Why on earth would Google do that with the Nexus S? Because, again, their goals for the device were to showcase their new Gingerbread theme (which SAMOLED screens do best) and push manufacturers into making more cloud-centric devices (ie no SD card). They wanted a larger screen, and a "sexy" looking device to show that Android can have style.
Google are in the business of making money. The Nexus phone is a consumer device for ORDINARY EVERY DAY PEOPLE. It is NOT a developer phone for geeks!
All this nonsense about Google not caring about the phone competing is absolute complete and utter uninformed nonsense from people who are more than happy to champion poor, over priced, old tech.
Google would do very well to stop advertising the Nexus is it's just for developer geeks, because the adverts i've seen for the Nexus are incredibly similar to the adverts I see for the iphone.
Google dropped the ball on this phone, plain and simple, and only fan boys will argue otherwise.
I will say one thing, thank god for AOKP! The latest AOKP Rom is amazing.
biffsmash said:
Google are in the business of making money. The Nexus phone is a consumer device for ORDINARY EVERY DAY PEOPLE. It is NOT a developer phone for geeks!
All this nonsense about Google not caring about the phone competing is absolute complete and utter uninformed nonsense from people who are more than happy to champion poor, over priced, old tech.
Google would do very well to stop advertising the Nexus is it's just for developer geeks, because the adverts i've seen for the Nexus are incredibly similar to the adverts I see for the iphone.
Google dropped the ball on this phone, plain and simple, and only fan boys will argue otherwise.
I will say one thing, thank god for AOKP! The latest AOKP Rom is amazing.
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Right. Because Google is *REALLY* pushing it hard on all 4 carriers in the US, huh? Really trying to get that market-share for the Nexus.
They still refuse to sell the GSM Galaxy Nexus in the US, some 6 months after release. They've dropped "official" support for the CDMA binaries for the VZW Galaxy Nexus, and have shown no signs of that changing anytime soon.
But yeah, sure, Google really cares a lot if this phone competes with other Android phones. No reason why they should care, since an Android phone is an Android phone.
Riiiight, if you say so.
I said please dont mind what I am saying. I am not here to merely bash this phone but for a reasonable discussion.
I really dont mind the lack of SD card at all thats why I have a nexus S. I also dont really mind heaving inferior video recording, I'll much rather have an LED flash which the galaxy S didnt have.
What I do care about is the still picture camera and gaming performance, 2 areas the nexus S was up with the best for it's time but the galaxy nexus isnt. The nexus S didnt bring in a new screen but it was still the best you could get. It didnt bring in a new chipset but again it was the best you could get(yes shortly bested by the tegra 2) but it was still more than adequate for 800x480.
While the galaxy nexus would have superior screen to my nexus S, it would have inferior sunlight legibility which is an unfortunate compromise that shouldn't be there considering how bright the note is. While it plays all games fine for now you never know when it's time would be up due to how poorly optimized android games can be.
I agree with the above user google dropped the ball on this there is no way to go around it. The galaxy nexus unlocked is now cheaper than the galaxy S2, that shows how it has performed. The nexus S never became cheaper than galaxy S.
Gambler_3 said:
The nexus phones always seem to be missing some crucial features that prevent them from destroying all the competition.
The nexus S had 480p recording which was a shocker since every high end phone was coming with HD video recording.
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480p recording was an operating system limitation at the time. Vanilla android just didn't support HD recording. People are giving manufacturers boatloads of crap for skins, but the reality remains that they add functionality that the underlaying OS wouldn't otherwise have. My 2010 HTC Desire had HD recording because of Sense, but my Nexus S didn't have because of vanilla android.
The FM radio that is inside both Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus? Vanilla android doesn't support it so we don't get to use it. Also I believe skins have added quite a bit of HW acceleration to their devices before the OS itself had it in any meaningful way. Android is quite barebones OS in itself, though now with ICS things are looking much better.
reuthermonkey said:
They're not *supposed* to be "destroying the competition". Nexus devices are meant to serve as an example for the direction they want Android to take. That's it.
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Well said.
From Google:
"...Nexus, is designed to allow enthusiasts to install custom operating systems. Allowing your own boot image on a pure Nexus S is as simple as running fastboot oem unlock."
From Engadget:
"Google's purebred Android phones are by nature developer-friendly and ship with a painless ability to unlock their bootloaders."
Again from Google:
"As part of the Nexus brand, Nexus S delivers what we call a “pure Google” experience: unlocked, unfiltered access to the best Google mobile services and the latest and greatest Android releases and updates."
From ZDnet:
"The Galaxy Nexus will be the next Google flagship phone, insuring owners will always get Android updates, and in a timely fashion."
From Gottabemobile:
"The “Pure Google Experience” phone skips all of the bloatware (pre-installed apps that nobody asked for) and custom UIs that manufacturers and carriers commonly tag onto Android phones."
Starting to get the picture of what Nexus is all about? Nexi are Google's flagship phone not Samsung's, not HTC's, not Sony's or anyone else.
Cmmts said:
480p recording was an operating system limitation at the time. Vanilla android just didn't support HD recording. People are giving manufacturers boatloads of crap for skins, but the reality remains that they add functionality that the underlaying OS wouldn't otherwise have. My 2010 HTC Desire had HD recording because of Sense, but my Nexus S didn't have because of vanilla android.
The FM radio that is inside both Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus? Vanilla android doesn't support it so we don't get to use it. Also I believe skins have added quite a bit of HW acceleration to their devices before the OS itself had it in any meaningful way. Android is quite barebones OS in itself, though now with ICS things are looking much better.
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What are you talking about? The nexus S still doesnt have HD video recording with ICS.
If it really was an OS limitation you didnt think someone here at xda would have long been able to find a hack??
And GB nexus S is one of the smoothest if not the smoothest single core android phone I have used.
But the nexus is a consumer phone not a dev phone....quote all u want
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What are you talking about? The nexus S still doesnt have HD video recording with ICS.
If it really was an OS limitation you didnt think someone here at xda would have long been able to find a hack??
And GB nexus S is one of the smoothest if not the smoothest single core android phone I have used.
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Can't seem to find a reference at this point, but I have been told this. BTW HTC Desire still remains my smoothest single core android phone to this day. I really wasn't that impressed with Nexus S.
So let's see. You (OP) criticizes the GN because you think it has a weak GPU even though you admit it runs all current games fine. If the screen lacks brightness, you know this is configurable. As for the SD card slot, Google finds it is a nuisance because it splits the filesystem in half and you need to juggle where to put stuff.
Most of the camera problems were fixed with firmware 4.0.4 and it is definitely comparable with the GS2 (I own one too so I know).
The GN is a well designed device and comes with the best Android stock experience, not some skinned nonsense.
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As some said, its a base for other devices. Kinda like a minimum requirement for future phone. whatever other device makes, i don't care. I'm happy cuz Android is that powerful and has varieties. of course, i'll be staying with Nexus.
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Can't seem to find a reference at this point, but I have been told this. BTW HTC Desire still remains my smoothest single core android phone to this day. I really wasn't that impressed with Nexus S.
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I'd be inclined to agree, having a Desire for almost 24 months. However, the girlfriends Desire S is also single core and faster, she would never let me take Sense off of it but I dare say it could well have been better.
Here's a discussion where a number of users state that the 720p issue is because of the OS.
http://androidforums.com/nexus-s/238837-why-doesnt-nexus-s-record-video-720p-30fps.html
TlDr but I got bits out of it.
The nexus doesn't need a super gpu for 720p rendering the 4460 OMAP has the best HD decoding in the industry. The screen is fine. The camera is sub par in the amount of pixels it can fit in a square but the quality is fine. It does the job. Its a phone ffs.
Honestly all I can say is to read my signature.
Also, this phone was never meant to compete with iOS or other Androids. It was meant to help set an industry standard for the next generation of Android hardware.
Please, can we stop making threads about how the Nexus isn't everything you wanted it to be? There's plenty of other phones you mentioned, so go use em and stop cluttering our General.
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Can't seem to find a reference at this point, but I have been told this. BTW HTC Desire still remains my smoothest single core android phone to this day. I really wasn't that impressed with Nexus S.
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Galaxy nexus does HD video and nexus S is running the same OS so what does lack of HD has to do with OS?
And I have found the nexus S app drawer to be as smooth as iphone, cant get smoother then that. And home screens are pretty smooth as well without too many widgets. Ofcourse other phones could be just as smooth.
Andie00 said:
This thread sucks.
Well said.
From Google:
"...Nexus, is designed to allow enthusiasts to install custom operating systems. Allowing your own boot image on a pure Nexus S is as simple as running fastboot oem unlock."
From Engadget:
"Google's purebred Android phones are by nature developer-friendly and ship with a painless ability to unlock their bootloaders."
Again from Google:
"As part of the Nexus brand, Nexus S delivers what we call a “pure Google” experience: unlocked, unfiltered access to the best Google mobile services and the latest and greatest Android releases and updates."
From ZDnet:
"The Galaxy Nexus will be the next Google flagship phone, insuring owners will always get Android updates, and in a timely fashion."
From Gottabemobile:
"The “Pure Google Experience” phone skips all of the bloatware (pre-installed apps that nobody asked for) and custom UIs that manufacturers and carriers commonly tag onto Android phones."
Starting to get the picture of what Nexus is all about? Nexi are Google's flagship phone not Samsung's, not HTC's, not Sony's or anyone else.
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So where does it say that the pure google experience gets hampered if you put the latest tech inside a phone? Seriously what is this ridiculous argument that just because it is dev phone it isnt about hardware.
Cmmts said:
Here's a discussion where a number of users state that the 720p issue is because of the OS.
http://androidforums.com/nexus-s/238837-why-doesnt-nexus-s-record-video-720p-30fps.html
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2010 dude this is 2012. Obviously it has nothing to do with OS as nexus S is now running an OS that does support HD video.
Smallsmx3 said:
But the nexus is a consumer phone not a dev phone....quote all u want
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Who said it's a dev phone?
We (and Google, and the entire tech industry) has stated that the phone is a guidepost for Android. It's a reference phone.
Now, it's quite normal for developers to prefer Nexus phones because... well... they're the reference. But no one ever said it wasn't a consumer phone. It's just not going to be the latest and greatest of everything. It's not meant to be - never was.
Which is the question of the thread why the hell cant it be the latest and greatest when the greatest company samsung is making it??
Why should they leave out features that dont need any rocket science to put into? Why cant those who love the reference phone have all the greatest features when the company making it is clearly capable of delivering them?
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Galaxy nexus does HD video and nexus S is running the same OS so what does lack of HD has to do with OS?
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And some phones with ICS support UMS, yet we support MTP. The OS does have to do with it, considering it likely has checks in it, and/or the Nexus S specific overlay LIMITS it to 480p.
The Nexus S has 320mb of usable ram and a single core CPU. Do you expect it to record in 720p like a boss? I know my Droid Incredible had 720p enabled in an update, and it was a joke.