[Request for App] Challenge to all WP7 Developers - Windows Phone 7 Software Development

I would like to call on all WP7 developers out there to partake in a challenge to see who can solve this extremely frustrating issue that I endure on a daily basis. I am sure (Convinced) that there are thousands of fellow WP7 users out there who share this sentiment: As much as love my WP7 HTC Mozart, and I do, the power button is driving me up the wall!!! Every time that I put my phone in my pocket, it switches off. I find myself checking every couple of minutes to see if the device is still on. It is soooooo frustrating!!!!! I am sure that it is not device specific – that it happens to other devices too running the WP7 os. (and I am not blaming the Operating System in any way) Guys – PLEASE – Anyone who can help in attempting to write an application, one similar to the one we had in 6.5 where, If the power button gets held down for a second or 3, a confirmation screen pops up asking if you are sure that you want to power down the device, thus, preventing accidental power-downs. Julien made a name for himself in the WP7 community with his ingenious Windows Phone Device Manager & TouchXplorer. Here is your chance to rise and stand out from the crowd and “come to our rescue” with an app to solve this issue.I am positive that it will be appreciated by millions. If I had the know-how I would have tried myself, but I am clueless when it comes to programming – Therefore my plead to all you clever guys out there

Got a Mozart aswell and that has never happened for me
And I'm pretty sure you can't change the behaviour of the power button.

Don't know what you're doing when you put your phone in your pocket, but I have never experienced what you are describing.
That being said, good luck with your quest.
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Maybe your pants are too tight...
Never experienced that problem either.

go for repairs
from what u are saying i am pretty sure that your phone is screwed somehow. never happened to me or my colleagues at work.

Andre Mostert said:
I am sure that it is not device specific
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That never happened to me with my HTC Surround. The HD7 used to unlock its screen while in my pocket, but that's a completely different problem.

Guys, Thank you for your input and views on this topic. If this doesn’t happen to you…well then, consider yourself lucky because it happens to me all the time. In my small circle of life I know of at least 6 people who have the same issues with the power button. Different phones. (Mozart, HD2, HD7) It is simple. When my phone is in my pocket and I sit down in front of a computer, or whatever, the power button gets pressed and it powers down. Thus my request to someone clever enough out there to write an app that solves this issue. It is not impossible. Such an app existed in win 6.5 and saved the day for me. So there is no reason why such an app will not work in WP7. Same hardware – Different OS. The issue is not hardware related. It is software. Thus it can be done. We just don’t know how yet.

...and Erwin...my pants is a bit too tight for my liking. lol

Andre Mostert said:
Guys, Thank you for your input and views on this topic. If this doesn’t happen to you…well then, consider yourself lucky because it happens to me all the time. In my small circle of life I know of at least 6 people who have the same issues with the power button. Different phones. (Mozart, HD2, HD7) It is simple. When my phone is in my pocket and I sit down in front of a computer, or whatever, the power button gets pressed and it powers down. Thus my request to someone clever enough out there to write an app that solves this issue. It is not impossible. Such an app existed in win 6.5 and saved the day for me. So there is no reason why such an app will not work in WP7. Same hardware – Different OS. The issue is not hardware related. It is software. Thus it can be done. We just don’t know how yet.
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There is no low level access for functions like that. I suggest you to buy a case that covers around the power button

it is hardware related.
the matter here is the button is pressed. buttons are hardware. the software is fine. my girlfriend's mozart never turns off, and she's wearing skinny jeans like 90% of the time.

Yes, buttons are hardware, but it is the software that makes the phone turn on or off when you press the button. Thats quite logical.
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There is a similar Problem If you don't know that your phone is turned off, the only way is to push the on off button. The result: You know then that you phone WAS turned off xD

^ Just pressing the power button won't turn your phone off or on. It requires a three second press to do that.
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don't think its your phone
My focus when on my armband when running shuts down periodically but I do have 18" arms lol. I think it is a pressure thing on the phone honestly like my focus does.

On the HTC Trophy you have to press only one second to turn your phone on
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It used to happen to me with HD7, but it was rare.
I bought a pouch and now everything is fine.

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Andre Mostert said:
I would like to call on all WP7 developers out there to partake in a challenge to see who can solve this extremely frustrating issue that I endure on a daily basis. I am sure (Convinced) that there are thousands of fellow WP7 users out there who share this sentiment: As much as love my WP7 HTC Mozart, and I do, the power button is driving me up the wall!!! Every time that I put my phone in my pocket, it switches off. I find myself checking every couple of minutes to see if the device is still on. It is soooooo frustrating!!!!! I am sure that it is not device specific – that it happens to other devices too running the WP7 os. (and I am not blaming the Operating System in any way) Guys – PLEASE – Anyone who can help in attempting to write an application, one similar to the one we had in 6.5 where, If the power button gets held down for a second or 3, a confirmation screen pops up asking if you are sure that you want to power down the device, thus, preventing accidental power-downs. Julien made a name for himself in the WP7 community with his ingenious Windows Phone Device Manager & TouchXplorer. Here is your chance to rise and stand out from the crowd and “come to our rescue” with an app to solve this issue.I am positive that it will be appreciated by millions. If I had the know-how I would have tried myself, but I am clueless when it comes to programming – Therefore my plead to all you clever guys out there
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I bought a leather case and I experienced this while phone was put in case facing my stomach. I simply swapped it and now it is facing outwards and it never switched off again.
Most simple ideas make things work: try to put your phone into your pocket in another position. (sw ehh?) If it works, please donate me a beer for "developing" this one

I'd agree with the above poster.
I sometimes get random button presses in my pockets, and I just turn the phone around.

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incredible screen wont work

So afaik, this phone wasn't rooted. my friend gave it to me because he said it was broken and he was just going to use his upgrade for an iphone so im trying to see if I can salvage it. When I first got it, it was a complete dud, wouldn't turn on, wouldn't charge just existed. So I bought a new battery on ebay and slapped it in and the amber light came on. I felt a short vibration before I turned in on soon after I put the battery in, dont know if that means anything. Anyway, turned it on, it says "droid", light turns green and the bottom row of buttons light up but the screen is totally non functional. no backlight, no color, no feedback, just dead. the volume up and down rockers when its on either make it vibrate til i let go or give me the max volume ding and the bottom row of buttons give me the vibration feedback when pressed. So im coming here to determine whether it needs a new screen or something or if there is some hacking magic I can do to revive this.
I have seen where people have flashed the stock rom to bring a screen back to life. I don't know how the phone would have gotten to this point without rooting or hardware failure though. Basically you download a .zip file, put it on your SD, then install it in bootloader. Requires hitting the right buttons at the right time though and I don't know the sequence but I've seen it posted a few times so a search should find it. May not work but its worth a try, especially since it sounds like its working aside from the screen.
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k_nivesout said:
I have seen where people have flashed the stock rom to bring a screen back to life. I don't know how the phone would have gotten to this point without rooting or hardware failure though. Basically you download a .zip file, put it on your SD, then install it in bootloader. Requires hitting the right buttons at the right time though and I don't know the sequence but I've seen it posted a few times so a search should find it. May not work but its worth a try, especially since it sounds like its working aside from the screen.
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yeah I talked to my friend, he said he dropped it in the sink and water got into it sooo yeah im kinda leaning toward the hardware failure, but ill give the software trick a try, though im doubtful, but couldn't hurt . should have talked to him before making this post, and holy crap i registered for this site in 07?? fail of a first post 4 years later...

More Lumia 900 weird behaviors and oddities

I haven't seen any threads pointing out the issues I've been having with my Lumia 900. For context, my Lumia is a pre-order cyan model that has been updated via Zune to the latest firmware.
My observed "unique" issues:
Pressing the Windows button, especially inside of games act CRAZY. Pressing the Windows button does nothing - the phone won't go home to the tiles. This is consistent across most games. Sometimes it will simply go into "voice" mode, but then am unable to cancel the voice by hitting back. It just sits there, no matter which key I mash. This is not consistent...sometimes it acts this way, sometimes it acts normally.
Pressing the "back arrow" key...pretty much identical to the above, except instead of "voice" mode, I get the app chooser. When in the app chooser, hitting the Windows key does nothing. At times, the only way to exit some apps is to hit back arrow into app chooser, choose another app, then hit the Windows key to go home. Again, only in games.
My Lumia randomly picks up capacitive button input, even when my hand is nowhere near the buttons. This almost manifests itself as a "Search" key press. Again, this only seems to happen when playing games! What is strange is that I can reasonably consistently repeat this behavior by touching the metal bezel around the camera.
Why in games only? Reasoning seems to suggest that Nokia may have slipped some detect code into the OS that alters capacitive button behavior when gaming to address a major WP7 complaint regarding accidental key presses exiting games. It's well within Nokia's rights given they have a customization exemption from Microsoft. That said, I've heard of no such "feature" existing, nor have I heard of anyone else having the issue.
I'm likely going to go back to the AT&T store and request a new device, because on top of this, my phone has the annoying vibration "buzz", as well as the phone generally seeming less responsive and reliable than my old Focus.
Thoughts?
I just tried in a couple of games to verify, and I don't have any of the issues you've described. I'd say get it swapped out.
I have none of these issues either. I also recommend a swap out.
I'd also suggest returning it.
I don't think those behaviors are normal for this phone; mine doesn't behave that way.
I just returned my cyan phone. No problem from the AT&T store at all. One sales guy was unaware of the problem, but the guy next to him was up to speed. They had cyan un stock and was going to do a straight swap, but I was aware enough to ask about white...they still had 2! Cyan would have been a straight swap, but for a $35 restocking fee, I could have the white. On top of that, he did I could return my cyan bumper case, so id be $20 out of pocket for a phone that wasn't available in the $100 rebate timeframe, yet still keep the rebate. Done deal!
FWIW, fit and finish in the white phone is noticable better: no loose buttons, no vibro rattle and the gloss white looks great. I'll know more on the soft key issues after I reinstall more apps.
I'm a very satisfied customer.
Actually, this is a KNOWN issue -- specifically when playing audio through the bottom speaker. Here's a link to the Nokia thread discussing this problem.
Does your new phone not have that issue? Here's a test: play a song through the built-in speaker, wait 10 seconds...do the capacitive buttons not respond properly, or act as if you've long-pressed them? You can "fix" the issue by plugging in some headphones.
Very strange.
yipcanjo said:
Actually, this is a KNOWN issue -- specifically when playing audio through the bottom speaker. Here's a link to the Nokia thread discussing this problem.
Does your new phone not have that issue? Here's a test: play a song through the built-in speaker, wait 10 seconds...do the capacitive buttons not respond properly, or act as if you've long-pressed them? You can "fix" the issue by plugging in some headphones.
Very strange.
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My new phone works perfectly, given the repro steps above. Playing music through the bottom speaker and waiting over 10 seconds, the capacitive buttons work just fine...no long press behavior, at all.
kenikh said:
My new phone works perfectly, given the repro steps above. Playing music through the bottom speaker and waiting over 10 seconds, the capacitive buttons work just fine...no long press behavior, at all.
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Interesting. I did a side-by-side comparison with my co-worker -- same phone, same color (cyan), purchased at the same time. His phone is fine, mine is not. I can repro the issue at ANY TIME by simply playing a song through the speaker. I can fix the issue at any time by simply plugging in headphones. Wacky.
Looks like I need to swap my phone, which kinda sucks.
yipcanjo said:
Looks like I need to swap my phone, which kinda sucks.
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I thought so, too, but after having the gloss white, I am happy I made the switch. I noticed that the matte finish cyan was starting to hold dirt, requiring cleaning to keep it looking good. I think that the gloss white will have no such issue.
kenikh said:
I thought so, too, but after having the gloss white, I am happy I made the switch. I noticed that the matte finish cyan was starting to hold dirt, requiring cleaning to keep it looking good. I think that the gloss white will have no such issue.
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Well....after testing my co-worker's phone (that didn't have the capacitive button issues), I decided to head to the AT&T store and swap my phone. The sales rep (at AT&T) sympathized with me...as he also had the same issues. His was a "launch day" phone, and he noted that only the earliest phones seemed to have this issue, though not all of them.
Anyhow...new phone...no issues, thus far. Bummer that it required a handset swap, but what'cha gonna do! Glad to have a healthy Lumia 900 (in Cyan) once again
My lumia has a mind of its own at times. It'll launch speak to me randomly, even when my phone is laying on the counter. The captivate buttons are either super sensitive or non responsive.
My internet connection is very unreliable. It'll lose data connection out of no where. Dedicated camera button will not always work. Usually I have to wake the phone up first for it to respond.
Internet explorer is rubbish. Sometimes it will load the page with hella glitches.
This is the second lumia I've gone thru. I even did the software update.
As much as the higher ups want me to sell this phone I refuse to. Maybe I've just been unlucky twice but IMO they need to extend the $100 credit for another month.
I gave this phone an honest chance but as soon as the HTC one comes out I'll be ditching this phone.
chivamex10 said:
My lumia has a mind of its own at times. It'll launch speak to me randomly, even when my phone is laying on the counter. The captivate buttons are either super sensitive or non responsive.
My internet connection is very unreliable. It'll lose data connection out of no where. Dedicated camera button will not always work. Usually I have to wake the phone up first for it to respond.
Internet explorer is rubbish. Sometimes it will load the page with hella glitches.
This is the second lumia I've gone thru. I even did the software update.
As much as the higher ups want me to sell this phone I refuse to. Maybe I've just been unlucky twice but IMO they need to extend the $100 credit for another month.
I gave this phone an honest chance but as soon as the HTC one comes out I'll be ditching this phone.
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Those are *NOT* normal issues. I would say swap it out once again...
Mine has been great. None of the regular issues I've read about. The only problems I've had is the disappearing keyboard, which is an OS problem not a hardware problem. Even though it's supposed to have been fixed, I still have this problem with my Radar, HD7, HD2 running Tango (refresh), & my 900. I digress, my bad, I've also just started to get a weird white flashing on my IE9 address bar. It flickers in & out, just started yesterday & continues to do so everytime I'm online.
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chivamex10 said:
My lumia has a mind of its own at times. It'll launch speak to me randomly, even when my phone is laying on the counter. The captivate buttons are either super sensitive or non responsive.
My internet connection is very unreliable. It'll lose data connection out of no where. Dedicated camera button will not always work. Usually I have to wake the phone up first for it to respond.
Internet explorer is rubbish. Sometimes it will load the page with hella glitches.
This is the second lumia I've gone thru. I even did the software update.
As much as the higher ups want me to sell this phone I refuse to. Maybe I've just been unlucky twice but IMO they need to extend the $100 credit for another month.
I gave this phone an honest chance but as soon as the HTC one comes out I'll be ditching this phone.
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All of this is the same for me, except this is my first WP7 phone.
Just had to try it out, but have decided it's not for me. HTC One X when it comes out, then trading for One S or Xperia S..
Anyway, I want to add that I used the headphone jack for the first time this past weekend, and I noticed that there is a TON of background noise when playing sounds, but goes away a few seconds after audio stops... so it is very obviously coming from the phone itself.
NOT impressed.
mmceorange said:
All of this is the same for me, except this is my first WP7 phone.
Just had to try it out, but have decided it's not for me. HTC One X when it comes out, then trading for One S or Xperia S..
Anyway, I want to add that I used the headphone jack for the first time this past weekend, and I noticed that there is a TON of background noise when playing sounds, but goes away a few seconds after audio stops... so it is very obviously coming from the phone itself.
NOT impressed.
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Hmmm....well, at least you get to replace it. Good luck with your One. Noticed it too has a nasty bug it shipped with. But, thats OK, its Android, and is not held to the same standard as anything Windows. Wait a minute....didn't the iPhone, the latest one, ship with a Siri bug or something...nahhh...couldn't be, I have to be remembering wrong. We all know that HTC and Samsung absolutely deliver the most impressive, long Lasting, bug free devices in the universe, with a solid reputation for innovation and length of use.
But, really, good luck with whatever choice you make. I'm sure you'll be very impressed.
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Hmmm....well, at least you get to replace it. Good luck with your One. Noticed it too has a nasty bug it shipped with. But, thats OK, its Android, and is not held to the same standard as anything Windows. Wait a minute....didn't the iPhone, the latest one, ship with a Siri bug or something...nahhh...couldn't be, I have to be remembering wrong. We all know that HTC and Samsung absolutely deliver the most impressive, long Lasting, bug free devices in the universe, with a solid reputation for innovation and length of use.
But, really, good luck with whatever choice you make. I'm sure you'll be very impressed.
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haaaaahhhhhh I know what you're getting at, but at least android has a huge development community to take care of just about any issue that pops up
If people were hacking the crap out of the 900 (which I'm sure will come in time) then I might stick with it just to see what is possible. But for now, it just isn't for me.
mmceorange said:
haaaaahhhhhh I know what you're getting at, but at least android has a huge development community to take care of just about any issue that pops up
If people were hacking the crap out of the 900 (which I'm sure will come in time) then I might stick with it just to see what is possible. But for now, it just isn't for me.
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And that needs to be ok. I left the Android community because I believe that many of the OEMs rely on the dev community to get somethings right. And I'm really not ok with that for everything.
but, to each his own.....good luck on yours...
chivamex10 said:
My lumia has a mind of its own at times. It'll launch speak to me randomly, even when my phone is laying on the counter. The captivate buttons are either super sensitive or non responsive.
My internet connection is very unreliable. It'll lose data connection out of no where. Dedicated camera button will not always work. Usually I have to wake the phone up first for it to respond.
Internet explorer is rubbish. Sometimes it will load the page with hella glitches.
This is the second lumia I've gone thru. I even did the software update.
As much as the higher ups want me to sell this phone I refuse to. Maybe I've just been unlucky twice but IMO they need to extend the $100 credit for another month.
I gave this phone an honest chance but as soon as the HTC one comes out I'll be ditching this phone.
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This is typical of the early phones that had glitches. My cyan had all of these issues...my white 900 has none.
It's a bummer that the 900 had so many issues out of the box...pretty inexcusable, actually. But having had the experience of using a first gen device, I knew that it wasn't the OS, it was the phone.
When your 900 is running significantly worse than an old Focus, it's the phone.
kenikh said:
This is typical of the early phones that had glitches. My cyan had all of these issues...my white 900 has none.
It's a bummer that the 900 had so many issues out of the box...pretty inexcusable, actually. But having had the experience of using a first gen device, I knew that it wasn't the OS, it was the phone.
When your 900 is running significantly worse than an old Focus, it's the phone.
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You know though....every phone, every brand has these...'glitches'. Its only a matter of 'if' they happen to you. Every phone mentioned on any forum, as being superior, has its own list of complaints that a significant number of people subscribe to.
I also think that if anything, Microsoft is held to a different standard than others. Just as Apple is begining to take heat for the slowing down of innovation. Basically, more people, more interest, more issues.
Even Android is running into problems based on quality of hardware, and the lack of testing on all hard ware in general, instead relying more on the dev community to help them out.
None of it is excusable, but I 'notice' that only Microsoft seems to be held accountable for such things.
Anyone here ever get an Android phone that was basically a piece of crap? I'm sure we can all supply examples....for me, the LG G2x, the Motoroal Bionic and the Motorola Droid 2x, as well as the HTC Sensation. The nicesst words I can use is....Rubish. But, like everything else, it only matters if it happens to you. There are fans of those phones all over the place. Yet, for me, POS's.
Not everyone likes every phone. I like Windows Phone. My son does not. He said to me....Dad, its nice, its ok, but it doesn't wow me. And I want to be wowed. That needs to be ok. He didn't say Microsoft was crap, and, Windows OS sucked. It just wasn't for him. Even though his last phone, the Sensation, had just stopped working, he ran out and got an HTC One-s . Go figure.
People that have problems with any phone, should be disinclined to venture in that area again. But, I repeat, it appears that people hold Microsoft to a higher level of accountablity in the Mobile area, than say....Google.
Just my Opinion.
Very true alodar1! I love WP OS and all my phones running it. These things will be fixed & for me, at least, they are not deal breakers.
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just took apart HOX, what can I do/test?

My HOX has been declared DOA (Slight screen flicker) so I am waiting on my new 1 coming then I have to send this one back, sooooo temptation got the better of me and I decided to pop it open for a nosey....
So... does anybody want me to test anything? Seen as it’s a write off anyway?
You do realise HTC *might* see if the device has been opened and if they're feeling nasty they can bill you for the new device?
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You do realise HTC *might* see if the device has been opened and if they're feeling nasty they can bill you for the new device?
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Might? Oh well, while you have it open, see if you can came the brands and/or model numbers off some of the chips like GPS and Wi-Fi.
drop the battery, hold vol+ and vol-, connect usb cable.
see if an apx device appears in windows.
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drop the battery, hold vol+ and vol-, connect usb cable.
see if an apx device appears in windows.
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This would be a huge help. Possibly a big step in gaining S-OFF
M.
NO apx
may be other ways.
so long as the battery is unconnected.
vol+ and power then connect usb
vol + and vol- and power and connect usb.
Even if you get to a point where it just isn't causing anything to pop up in device manager then we can at least stop pursuing it and focus on the pogo pins as a way to apx mode.
battery no where in sight or reconnect bat when usb is plugged in etc?
Not might, will. They would be perfectly within their rights to do so, as well. Once you agree a return, it's no longer your property to open, not to mention that there's no way for HTC to know you didn't open the phone before your problem occurred.
You'd better hope they don't notice...
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
shouldn't have opened the phone dude, they will check for this, I used to work for O2 and this was the procedure, they might turn around and say you did it you opened it up,
hope you got insurance or something
mox123 said:
shouldn't have opened the phone dude, they will check for this, I used to work for O2 and this was the procedure, they might turn around and say you did it you opened it up,
hope you got insurance or something
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There's no "void" stickers until you start pulling the mainboards out. The only way they would notice is if the phone was somehow damaged in the process.
Re the APX mode - battery needs to be totally disconnected to start. Just try different combos with volume/power buttons and the usb connection. We're all just guessing atm.
M.
mattman83 said:
There's no "void" stickers until you start pulling the mainboards out. The only way they would notice is if the phone was somehow damaged in the process.
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Void stickers are not the only way to tell if a phone has been opened. (I know. I used to work for a major consumer / business electronics manufacturer, and one of my duties was inspecting returns and approving or denying warranty and refund claims.)
I wouldn't have taken it apart. There may be a small pin on the motherboard that will identify a case breach and log it. Wouldn't be hard for them to see it. And charge you for the phone.
Sent from my HTC One X using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2
Yes, I wouldn't do that either.
BUT HE DID IT and now wants to help. Now, let's focus on to get something out of this and cut the crap!
nickhuk: How about some pics? And how do you open HOX without damaging it?
jsntrenkler said:
I wouldn't have taken it apart. There may be a small pin on the motherboard that will identify a case breach and log it. Wouldn't be hard for them to see it. And charge you for the phone.
Sent from my HTC One X using Xparent ICS Blue Tapatalk 2
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He could always say it's how it was bought. Hence screen issues..
That's what I'd be saying.
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AliceXES said:
Yes, I wouldn't do that either.
BUT HE DID IT and now wants to help. Now, let's focus on to get something out of this and cut the crap!
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Yes, let's throw him under the bus. There's every chance that he's not done anything HTC will detect *yet*, but that he will do so in trying to help out. Let's make sure he's aware of the chance that continuing may cost him the entire phone, if he hasn't already done so. Then he can decide if he wants to take that risk.
Or we can just open our own phones... and if we don't want to, why should we not try to help somebody else have a bit of common sense too?
AliceXES said:
nickhuk: How about some pics? And how do you open HOX without damaging it?
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There have already been multiple product teardowns of the One X posted, including detailed photos. Getting him to take photos and describe the experience won't tell you anything that 20 seconds with forum search couldn't have done.
Hint: It comes apart with a spudger.
AliceXES said:
Yes, I wouldn't do that either.
BUT HE DID IT and now wants to help. Now, let's focus on to get something out of this and cut the crap!
nickhuk: How about some pics? And how do you open HOX without damaging it?
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Right, its already open now, cant take that back so it wont never go back to being un-opened, so get all these guys all the info you can that may be able to help move development forward.
drvsbsm said:
Right, its already open now, cant take that back so it wont never go back to being un-opened, so get all these guys all the info you can that may be able to help move development forward.
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Wrong. It snaps back together just fine, presuming he didn't break anything in opening it. (How do you think HTC puts it together in the first place?)
It's possible he hasn't yet done anything that will land him in hot water with his warranty, and that he will do so if he continues fiddling. It's equally possible he's already shot his warranty. Nobody knows, but if it's the latter he can always tear things back apart and fiddle when he gets his unwarranted phone back from HTC.
I respect the fact the OP wants to help, and the last time i checked that was the ethos of this forum. All i'm seeing is the poor guy being flamed for opening a phone. I'm sure he/she knew the risks. Time being a factor i noted that it was wasted with people assuming control based on previous experience.
"used to work in a *fill in the blanks*" is all very well but wins no respect if it's not followed up with a "so here's how to find out"
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I respect the fact the OP wants to help, and the last time i checked that was the ethos of this forum. All i'm seeing is the poor guy being flamed for opening a phone. I'm sure he/she knew the risks. Time being a factor i noted that it was wasted with people assuming control based on previous experience.
"used to work in a *fill in the blanks*" is all very well but wins no respect if it's not followed up with a "so here's how to find out"
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Ok so rather than criticising, lets give him a list of procedures to try to enter apx
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[Q] Broken Power Button - Interesting Issue

So I purchased my GSM Galaxy Nexus in March of this year thru Amazon. From a Samsung seller, Yapper Wireless.
My power button has suddenly stopped working, don't know why as I can't even remember the last time it's been outside of it's Otterbox. There's no moisture or anything, it's just stopped responding. I've been able to set it up in AOKP so my volume buttons wake the device but it's just a pain to live with.
I call Samsung today since they have a Limited 1 Year Warranty on defective Hardware. Apparently per my IMEI number my Galaxy Nexus is an International Galaxy Nexus, and the only place I can get them to fix the power button is by making an International Call to Samsung Europe and sending the phone to Europe???
The Girl was no help, I'm trying to explain that it's just the power button this is a common issue apparently. Nope gotta make an International call and ship it to Europe.
Anyone else have this kind of issue with repairs for the phone and have possible some kind of workaround getting it repaired with Samsung? Like I said I'm living with it for now but it's just a pain.
Thank you
As an update, I called the Samsung Repair Center in Europe from my work phone since we have international calling. They won't take the phone because I'm in the US and there's potential problems returning the device to me. And Samsung in the US won't fix it because the phone is from Europe.
Well played Samsung.
The paid version of PGM app lets you lock and unlock your screen using swipes on your screen. Have you tried that ?
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viskon said:
The paid version of PGM app lets you lock and unlock your screen using swipes on your screen. Have you tried that ?
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+1. Highly recommended. My power button isn't dead (yet), but I have to press down on it until it feels like it's underneath the housing to get it to respond. Been like that for a while now, but it hasn't got any worse because I have been using that app. Swipe halfway down the screen from right to left to wake, across the bottom from right to left to lock. If the screen times out a simple tap wakes it back up without locking. You can also customize the gestures so you can swipe it wherever you want. It also has very very very little drain on battery, if any at all. I still consistently get 4hrs screen on time with a 4G connection 100% of the charge, GPS, sync & sometimes Bluetooth ON. Stream Pandora for a bit as well as YouTube, Facebook and XDA browsing. That's getting off topic though. This app will take that pain you're suffering right away. Totally worth it, check out the reviews on play store. PGM Nexus
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Well for now I've set the timeout on the screen to 15 seconds and use the volume buttons to wake it up. I've worked around it already it's just a pain to have it broken and the manufacturer stonewall me on getting it fixed.
My T-Mobile contract is up for renewal right now, looking at the Nexus 4, but it's LG...
Worse case, power buttons are inexpensive and I don't think too difficult to replace. Good luck.
Head on over to the N4 forum and see how others feel about it to get a better decision as to whether or not you want it. Couldn't help you there, haven't visited those forums once yet. However in the meantime I would still look into PGM Nexus. I had the free version from day 1 since I bought the phone. Power button started to die so I bought the full app. Now I couldn't really care less about returning it or getting it fixed. It just works, and well. Sets upon reboots too so you don't have to wake it with the volume keys and then turn it on. It's great lol. I swear by it. Also pretty cool because I chill with a lot of iPhone users and they all thought it was cool how I turn my phone on and off.
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I purchased the PGM Nexus app, works really well and I like it for what I need it for.
But the power button is apparently now working fine after over 24 hours of not functioning. I've had some mild panic attacks over it and it just started functioning again. I'll keep PGM Nexus though, appreciate it.
Hahaha I think your nexus is messing with you.
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I use pgm nexus to turn the screen on and Standby Touch shortcut in my dock to quickly turn the screen off.. I've been using this setup for quite sometime now to save my power button and I really like it.
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Mine was broken as well. Slowly giving me problem then one day dead...I had to plug it in in order to turn on...anyways was able to root again and then it came back to life a little bit when I changed rom for the OTA 4.1 worked still almost never and then while trying to root again in order to flash a 4.2 custom rom at the begining i couldn't select anything with volume...suddenly I was able to scroll with volume button and now the power button works as if nothing never happend...Odd anyway just thought i'd share

[Q] S3 will only boot for a second.

I searched first, don't worry.
I'm having a weird problem. I have an AT&T Galaxy S3. I rooted it in Odin, flashed the updated bootloader, flashed Cyanogenmod 10.1.2, and then flashed Gapps. All was well for several days until today when it shut off when I was in the middle of writing a text - it had around 70% battery.
Now the phone doesn't boot. It doesn't respond to the power button. If I pull the battery out and put it back in, "SAMSUNG" flashes on screen for half a second, the phone vibrates once, and then the screen goes black. If I try to boot into recovery mode, "SAMSUNG" flashes with the blue text in the corner, but it still shuts off in half a second. Same thing with download mode, it shuts off before I can press up. If I plug the phone in without the battery, the red light flashes for about one second, the phone vibrates, and then the light shuts off.
Ideas? I literally just got the phone back from Samsung after a repair, and it's broken again. All responses are appreciated.
Sounds like your power button may be stuck.
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Really? If you hold on your power button while the phone turns on, does it do the same thing?
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Really? If you hold on your power button while the phone turns on, does it do the same thing?
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Yup.
The power button getting stuck seems to be the issue right now. A lot of phones are getting that issue.
Galaxy S3 / AoCP / V4A / Turbocharged
jayRokk said:
Yup.
The power button getting stuck seems to be the issue right now. A lot of phones are getting that issue.
Galaxy S3 / AoCP / V4A / Turbocharged
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Well that's annoying. Thanks. Is there any way to repair this myself? I really can't go without a phone for another two weeks.
Gnest said:
Well that's annoying. Thanks. Is there any way to repair this myself? I really can't go without a phone for another two weeks.
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Taking it apart. Idk to be honest. One user who had this issue just slammed the phone and worked from there... I'm not advising this but try something's out
Galaxy S3 / AoCP / V4A / Turbocharged
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Taking it apart. Idk to be honest. One user who had this issue just slammed the phone and worked from there... I'm not advising this but try something's out
Galaxy S3 / AoCP / V4A / Turbocharged
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I smacked it and it got a whole 5 seconds into the boot sequence! Huzzah!
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I smacked it and it got a whole 5 seconds into the boot sequence! Huzzah!
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There you go! Lol
From that we can definitely see its a power button issue. Now to keep snaking it! Haha
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I smacked it and it got a whole 5 seconds into the boot sequence! Huzzah!
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Just keep pounding on it till you get the result you want....worked for me on a skyrocket that did that....does it vibrate too ?
(we are all adults here I assume ha)
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Just keep pounding on it till you get the result you want....worked for me on a skyrocket that did that....does it vibrate too ?
(we are all adults here I assume ha)
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Still no luck. I'm getting a little more of the boot screen, but it still goes black. Yes, it vibrates.
I think the problem is that I can shake the button into the unpressed position sometimes, but I still need to press it to attempt to boot. When I do that, it just gets stuck again.
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Still no luck. I'm getting a little more of the boot screen, but it still goes black. Yes, it vibrates.
I think the problem is that I can shake the button into the unpressed position sometimes, but I still need to press it to attempt to boot. When I do that, it just gets stuck again.
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Since it vibrates then its for sure the issue. It's a really cheap fix at any fly by night craigslist outfit but I'd suggest you send it to mobile tech vidoes or some other legit business. Pay the $20-30 bucks so you know it doesn't jacked up when a butcher has to open your phone.
You could try a q-tip with some isopropyl alcohol and just rub around the button and see if some will seep down in there and maybe loosen if it's all gunked up...if not its just shot.
(Warranty out ?)
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Since it vibrates then its for sure the issue. It's a really cheap fix at any fly by night craigslist outfit but I'd suggest you send it to mobile tech vidoes or some other legit business. Pay the $20-30 bucks so you know it doesn't jacked up when a butcher has to open your phone.
You could try a q-tip with some isopropyl alcohol and just rub around the button and see if some will seep down in there and maybe loosen if it's all gunked up...if not its just shot.
(Warranty out ?)
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How long is the turnaround for something like mobile tech videos?
The alcohol wouldn't void the warranty, right? It would just evaporate.
Warranty is still available, and Samsung was extremely generous to me last time. I hard bricked the phone, sent it in, they made a note that it was rooted but fixed it anyway, no questions asked. If third-party service takes anywhere around 2 weeks, then I'll just take my chances with Samsung again.
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How long is the turnaround for something like mobile tech videos?
The alcohol wouldn't void the warranty, right? It would just evaporate.
Warranty is still available, and Samsung was extremely generous to me last time. I hard bricked the phone, sent it in, they made a note that it was rooted but fixed it anyway, no questions asked. If third-party service takes anywhere around 2 weeks, then I'll just take my chances with Samsung again.
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From what I have heard it less than that but it depends where you are located. I think it wouldn't void any warranty but I certainly wouldn't chance it if you do have one remaining.... did you buy it outright or from a carrier ? If rooted I guess I wouldn't send it to them...with a power button I imagine you could just put in a repair ticket with Samsung and re how much it would cost as I assume you are rooted.
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From what I have heard it less than that but it depends where you are located. I think it wouldn't void any warranty but I certainly wouldn't chance it if you do have one remaining.... did you buy it outright or from a carrier ? If rooted I guess I wouldn't send it to them...with a power button I imagine you could just put in a repair ticket with Samsung and re how much it would cost as I assume you are rooted.
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I got it through Costco (they had a sweet bundle with accessories). Would Samsung really care that it's rooted, considering it's a hardware issue? They didn't even care when I hardbricked it because I flashed firmware for an international S3.
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I got it through Costco (they had a sweet bundle with accessories). Would Samsung really care that it's rooted, considering it's a hardware issue? They didn't even care when I hardbricked it because I flashed firmware for an international S3.
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If you are just having them repair a power button I can't see them caring because you are paying for work down outside of the warranty scope. I don't think they put up a fuss when a rooted phone gets a LCD replacement. The fact that you jacking with the power button changes the problem is proof it's not software related and its a common issue (albeit the only one). This is my 4th Galaxy product and I've had one, and only one issue and that's the power button got stuck for a day and it's fine now.
On a side rant still drives me crazy that people say Samsung phones feel cheap and have a low build quality. I've held that HTC one and it seemed so haphazardly designed and just plain cheap.
Guys, I don't think it's the power button after all. Now, occasionally, it will start to turn on if I press on the power button. Do you think it could be the same problem this OP is having? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359722
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Guys, I don't think it's the power button after all. Now, occasionally, it will start to turn on if I press on the power button. Do you think it could be the same problem this OP is having? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359722
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According to the link you provided, the OP can get into download mode while you can't. The fact that the power button has been an issue along with the fact that a little rough treatment has seemingly made it boot a little further tends to lean many to the fact that it is probably the power button.
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On a side rant still drives me crazy that people say Samsung phones feel cheap and have a low build quality. I've held that HTC one and it seemed so haphazardly designed and just plain cheap.
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In fact the complete opposite.
Those who still have these reservations towards Samsung should read this article:
http://mobile.businessweek.com/arti...g-became-the-worlds-no-dot-1-smartphone-maker
I'll cite a paragraph for those who rather not read the entire article.
"Such striving for efficiency and excellence wasn’t always a priority. In 1995, Chairman Lee was dismayed to learn that cell phones he gave as New Year’s gifts were found to be inoperable. He directed underlings to assemble a pile of 150,000 devices in a field outside the Gumi factory. More than 2,000 staff members gathered around the pile. Then it was set on fire. When the flames died down, bulldozers razed whatever was remaining. “If you continue to make poor-quality products like these,” Lee Keon Hyok recalls the chairman saying, “I’ll come back and do the same thing.”
Samsung does things on the cheap, but it is the best at doing it and that is why they easily outsell higher quality devices because they don't make sacrifices in terms of customer demand in features such as removable battery, expandable memory, and easy repair. Their device easily out powers the competition and are extremely high quality for a plastic device.
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In fact the complete opposite.
Those who still have these reservations towards Samsung should read this article:
http://mobile.businessweek.com/arti...g-became-the-worlds-no-dot-1-smartphone-maker
I'll cite a paragraph for those who rather not read the entire article.
"Such striving for efficiency and excellence wasn’t always a priority. In 1995, Chairman Lee was dismayed to learn that cell phones he gave as New Year’s gifts were found to be inoperable. He directed underlings to assemble a pile of 150,000 devices in a field outside the Gumi factory. More than 2,000 staff members gathered around the pile. Then it was set on fire. When the flames died down, bulldozers razed whatever was remaining. “If you continue to make poor-quality products like these,” Lee Keon Hyok recalls the chairman saying, “I’ll come back and do the same thing.”
Samsung does things on the cheap, but it is the best at doing it and that is why they easily outsell higher quality devices because they don't make sacrifices in terms of customer demand in features such as removable battery, expandable memory, and easy repair. Their device easily out powers the competition and are extremely high quality for a plastic device.
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Just my 2 cents... Samaung phones have always exceeded quality of any other phone I've held or used. Read that article a while back and was what I expected. I was complimenting Samsung not complaining.
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Just my 2 cents... Samaung phones have always exceeded quality of any other phone I've held or used. Read that article a while back and was what I expected. I was complimenting Samsung not complaining.
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I was agreeing with you and your rant. I was just trying to add to your rant to say how Samsung does a lot of research before producing a product. Sorry if it seemed like I was disagreeing with you!
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