Is the T-Mobile G2 or HTC Desire Z open for 4G networking? I was going through my billing information and it said additional $20.00 for 4G services but at the top of my phone it says 3G? IDK if it is because of root etc. But I was wondering if this phone is 4G. Leave comments and please support my question. Thanks ahead!
Mine runs 4G, so yes its open to it.
The G2 supports HSPA+ on T-mobiles '4g' network.
Or are you wanting to buy the desire Z and use it in the US?
And you shouldnt be getting billed extra for 4G. That's Sprints thing.
I think on the G2, "H" shows "4G" services.. I could be wrong though. I have a Desire Z.
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Or are you wanting to buy the desire Z and use it in the US?
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They have the same radios apart from frequencies. I believe the Desire Z is more suited for AT&t bands?? [EDIT: Wrong, DZ is UTMS 900/2100]
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And you shouldnt be getting billed extra for 4G. That's Sprints thing.
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Thats daylight robbery if you are!! On this phone, "4G" isn't any more than "3G" HSDPA with a higher uplink speed, Thats good marketing on their part.
I used to switch off HSDPA (HSPA+) on my phones for much better battery life.
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Should I contact T-Mobile. Because it charges me on my billing but i don't have it... If I ask would they disapprove of helping me because of my rooted phone. Could.this just be an error?
I heard somewhere on xda that sometimes "H" shows when you are still only on 3G, that they were overemphasizing the H instead of the G or something of that nature.
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Should I contact T-Mobile. Because it charges me on my billing but i don't have it... If I ask would they disapprove of helping me because of my rooted phone. Could.this just be an error?
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Thats your call mate, I don't know how T-Mobile USA does its billing. That could be your data plan or something. However, I dont think they'd disapprove about the rooted phone TBH, just don't tell them. You could confirm you're in a "4G" (HSPA+) area with a simple query. Also, if its a custom ROM (Cyanogen etc) ask in their thread to see if they have a similar issue.
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I heard somewhere on xda that sometimes "H" shows when you are still only on 3G, that they were overemphasizing the H instead of the G or something of that nature.
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Yeah, I'd heard similar. On the UK stock Desire Z it constantly sits at "3G" until data is in use then it negotiates "H" (depends on network support) A very good battery saving feature if you've ever used Windows Mobile phones!
Craig
So what is the average speed everyone is seeing?
I just went on a month-long road trip, taking my G2 out of the new orleans hspa coverage area for the first time, and I noticed a marked difference between hspa (H) and 3G (G) coverage. And edge might as well be no connection at all, it would seem. My friend uses verizons cdma networks, and while a lot of times he didnt have data connectivity either, he at least had phone capability, which was more than i could say for t-mobiles gsm. but now that im out of the desert and back in the city, my phone is the rad again.
The Desire Z/G2 does NOT have 4G or/and "4G".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_HSPA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
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The Desire Z/G2 does NOT have 4G or/and "4G".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_HSPA
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nothing you can buy today meets the technical definition for '4g' and nothing will for quite awhile.
my G2 is just as fast as my Friends EVO on Wimax, and my friends Thunderbolt on LTE. so as far as me and the general consumer should be concerned the G2 is a 4G phone because it offers significantly faster data speeds compared to 3G only devices.
So does or does it not? Who is most sure because I here different answers about the T-Mobile G2 being 4G. I am using MIUI and is this a known problem for them because there is no MIUI forum section, I need all the help I can get!!!
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So does or does it not? Who is most sure because I here different answers about the T-Mobile G2 being 4G. I am using MIUI and is this a known problem for them because there is no MIUI forum section, I need all the help I can get!!!
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the problem is the definition of 4G. there isn't one.
the G2 is hspa+ capable, if you have a signal.
verizons LTE is multitudes faster up and down.
there is _NO_ such thing as 4G.
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So does or does it not? Who is most sure because I here different answers about the T-Mobile G2 being 4G. I am using MIUI and is this a known problem for them because there is no MIUI forum section, I need all the help I can get!!!
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So you're asking this because of the billing, right?
I assume you are seeing this on the bill (or something similar): "4G Web Unlimited $30.00"
That's just the way Tmo describes the "unlimited web" on the bill. I don't *think* there's any difference between the dollar amount for say the G2 and the MyTouch 3G, for the data plan.
And, for what it's worth, I'm seeing up to 10mbps down and *up to* 4mbps upload around here... That's close enough to true 4G for my purposes. Beats the pooh outta my DSL line
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So you're asking this because of the billing, right?
I assume you are seeing this on the bill (or something similar): "4G Web Unlimited $30.00"
That's just the way Tmo describes the "unlimited web" on the bill. I don't *think* there's any difference between the dollar amount for say the G2 and the MyTouch 3G, for the data plan.
And, for what it's worth, I'm seeing up to 10mbps down and *up to* 4mbps upload around here... That's close enough to true 4G for my purposes. Beats the pooh outta my DSL line
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There isn't. Even if you have a ****ty ten dollar feature phone, your gonna pay thirty bux and its gonna say 4g on the bill.
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I AM VS4 said:
So does or does it not? Who is most sure because I here different answers about the T-Mobile G2 being 4G. I am using MIUI and is this a known problem for them because there is no MIUI forum section, I need all the help I can get!!!
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For the purpose or your original question yes, its "4G" capable, in a "4G" area it should be showing "H". Someone who uses the MIUI rom may be able to confirm this. On the stock DZ rom, "H" is both HSDPA and HSPA+
The confusion comes from the definition of "4G" or the lack of! The ITU who maintain telephony standards define "4G" as LTE-Advanced or WIMAX (802.16m). T-Mobile successfully argued with the law that they could market their HSPA+ offering as "4G" on their "new network" which in reality is just a simple upgrade.
For the record, speedtest reports about 3Mbps down and 1Mbps up which is quite respectable. I believe its on HSPA+ at 14.4Mbps.
Okay I get it! They are charging me for the coverage and capability. This means that the phone is cabable. But how come it says 3G though I'm still a little concerned even though it is possible for me to have 4G how come I am paying for something I don't have. Is says 3G loud and clear! At no point has it said 4G but why is it that I am paying for it?! But I do understand your answers... Just answer me that question..
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Okay I get it! They are charging me for the coverage and capability. This means that the phone is cabable. But how come it says 3G though I'm still a little concerned even though it is possible for me to have 4G how come I am paying for something I don't have. Is says 3G loud and clear! At no point has it said 4G but why is it that I am paying for it?! But I do understand your answers... Just answer me that question..
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The 3G vs 4G vs H vs H+ is potentially just a matter of graphics or icons?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993824
*edit: you appear to be in Houston, so you should be covered by HSDPA*
Download "Speedtest" app, by Ookla, and run a couple tests. See what you get for speeds.
In settings - about - network what does it say?
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only 3.5g
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I just noticed yesterday that T-mobile has a 4G network in my area and I was wondering if there was a way to force roam 4G on tmobiles network? So that I could pick up 4G.
If its possible how?
Oh and sprint needs to hurry up and put 4g everywhere
You said it yourself. T-Mobile is HSPA+, Sprint 4G is WiMax. So, no.
Naa dude. HSPA+ is not compatible with cdma(sprint). Matter of fact t-mobile is using 4G now because its "trendy" and everybody else is using it. Their network is closer to 3G in infrastructure. But thats up for debate.
That sucks like hell. There's 4G here I just can't have it. AHHHHHHH!!!
Well if its like 3G I guess I'm not missing much.
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Naa dude. HSPA+ is not compatible with cdma(sprint). Matter of fact t-mobile is using 4G now because its "trendy" and everybody else is using it. Their network is closer to 3G in infrastructure. But thats up for debate.
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You are on the money. HSPA+ is no more than an upgrade to existing 3G technology. If I remember right, it only has a theoretical max of 54 Mbps down. It is not, nor will it ever be, 4G.
Granted, the current 802.16e standard of WiMax is not 4G either...just waiting for that 802.16m standard to be finalized =). Which once that is complete, infrastructure can be updated and we should be able to utilize it with a simple firmware update.
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That sucks like hell. There's 4G here I just can't have it. AHHHHHHH!!!
Well if its like 3G I guess I'm not missing much.
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No its way faster than your normal 3G. Faster than WIMAX too. Its nothing to pull down 7 or 8 Mb.
I bet it's better on battery than wimax is on ours.
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I bet it's better on battery than wimax is on ours.
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It uses the same radio for voice. The EVO has a separate 4G radio thats has to be activated and scan then connect. So 2 radios running at the same time would use more battery than 1 GSM radio running. Also CDMA has a tendency to use more battery when searching for signal in low signal areas.
Having installed T-mobiles 3g upgrade here in Chicago market back in 2008, I can say definitively that HSPA is just a radio cabinet addition to the existing cellular framework. Depending on the layout of the tower/site, "Flex radios" handle the data on 1, or sometimes more antennae, while the voice travels over GSM through remaining antennae. Very similar to ATT infrastructure, but tiny radios handling big bandwidth.
Having said all that, 4G is a silly buzzword that Sprint started, and T-mobile is now exploiting.
In a way, Sprint is just using extra radios on top of their existing 3G cellular, and just integrating the enhanced data speeds of Clearwire's network into their own.
T-mobile's speeds are indeed fast both HSPA and HSPA+, but to call them 4g may be overstating it, as it is just an upgrade to their existing technology, and not a new technology.
As another poster stated, nobody officially has 4g yet, not even Sprint, and until the 802.16 commission finalizes and LTE is launched we still won't.
To re-emphasize to the OP, not a chance, and don't believe the hype.
I can see sprint(or clear) and T-mobile going to bed for some real 4G'ness.
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I can see sprint(or clear) and T-mobile going to bed for some real 4G'ness.
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Yeah, I heard a rumor that Sprint may eventually adopt LTE.... It makes sense.
Wimax will make a great backhaul, and could stay in place, not to mention supporting cities and rural areas. But LTE will be the big daddy, and similar to WiMax, works on it's own and should be seamlessly integrated on top of cellular.
I'm not sure but I think it can work with CDMA or GSM, hooray for global WiFi!
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Yeah, I heard a rumor that Sprint may eventually adopt LTE.... It makes sense.
Wimax will make a great backhaul, and could stay in place, not to mention supporting cities and rural areas. But LTE will be the big daddy, and similar to WiMax, works on it's own and should be seamlessly integrated on top of cellular.
I'm not sure but I think it can work with CDMA or GSM, hooray for global WiFi!
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I wouldn't count on LTE on Sprint just yet. Hesse denounced it last week; however, Sprint, Clearwire, Google, Time-Warner, and a couple others purchased Spectrum not only in the 2.5 GHz, but the 2.3 GHz band also. So the bandwidth is there and, in the past, Hesse has been quoted saying they can easily switch to LTE if need be.
Edit: http://gigaom.com/2010/10/29/sprint-ceo-dan-hesse-on-clearwire-lte-wimax/
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I wouldn't count on LTE on Sprint just yet. Hesse denounced it last week; however, Sprint, Clearwire, Google, Time-Warner, and a couple others purchased Spectrum not only in the 2.5 GHz, but the 2.3 GHz band also. So the bandwidth is there and, in the past, Hesse has been quoted saying they can easily switch to LTE if need be.
Edit: http://gigaom.com/2010/10/29/sprint-ceo-dan-hesse-on-clearwire-lte-wimax/
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Thanks for the info.
I think the most important thing in the article is that LTE can happen if necessary.
Sorry for getting off topic.
A few weeks ago, I posted a thread asking why does my friend get 4G, but I don't. If you are like me in a situation like this, the process is simple. In my area, there are 4G and Edge bands that phones connect to. My phone persistently connected to the edge band while my friend connects to the 4G. So lets get to the point shall we.
If you are having problems like me try this:
Go to your settings, wireless and network, mobile networks, and then select network mode. (After doing some research about GSM and WCDMA, I found out that GSM (3G aka edge) was slower than WCDMA (the newer technology 3G).
Select WCDMA. (For me it took a while so don't worry. If it does take too much time then select WCDMA + GSM.) You are going to have to select it anyway when you are done if you don't automatically connect to 4G.
When you select the combination, your phone should reconnect to your carrier provider and you should get 4G like me.
Oh. F.Y.I. T-Mobile doesn't actually have 4G. It's just a fast 3G network called HSPA, but they still display the 4G symbol when you have it. Hope it helps somebody.
Tmobile doesn't have 4g?
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Tmobile doesn't have 4g?
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not "technically" but id say hspa gets the job done... except wen u run out of ur 5gb of data... which i did... n now they slowed me down till the end of billing cycle... what sucks is... my hspa is faster than wifi connection wifi is slow as hellllllll....
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Tmobile doesn't have 4g?
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No. It's not really 4G. Just a faster 3G Network. It is really fast though.
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not "technically" but id say hspa gets the job done... except wen u run out of ur 5gb of data... which i did... n now they slowed me down till the end of billing cycle... what sucks is... my hspa is faster than wifi connection wifi is slow as hellllllll....
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LOL! That is true.. I find my phone faster than WiFi.
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Oh. F.Y.I. T-Mobile doesn't actually have 4G. It's just a fast 3G network called HSPA, but they still display the 4G symbol when you have it. Hope it helps somebody.
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So who has 4G? T-Mobile is faster than the other 3, so no one has 4G?
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mikeyinid said:
Tmobile doesn't have 4g?
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Looks like 4g to me.
nysoprano said:
So who has 4G? T-Mobile is faster than the other 3, so no one has 4G?
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I don't know about the other providers though. I will do some more research when I get out for Christmas break.
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Looks like 4g to me.
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I don't know if you still have the sticker, but look on top of your Galaxy S2 and there should be a sticker that reads "Qualcomm 3G HSDPA". Sorry folks, correction HSDPA*
No company has "4G", none of them meet the official requirements of 4G. Just because your phone says 4G doesn't mean it actually is. Just because David Copperfield made it LOOK like he made a Boeing-747 disappear doesn't mean he ACTUALLY did
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G#Requirements
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I don't know if you still have the sticker, but look on top of your Galaxy S2 and there should be a sticker that reads "Qualcomm 3G HSDPA". Sorry folks, correction HSDPA*
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My sticker has 4g qualcomm
From a glaxay better than yours.
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Looks like 4g to me.
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Doesn't look like it to me... that's half the speed
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No company has "4G", none of them meet the official requirements of 4G. Just because your phone says 4G doesn't mean it actually is. Just because David Copperfield made it LOOK like he made a Boeing-747 disappear doesn't mean he ACTUALLY did
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G#Requirements
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Well sort of. Wiki mentions it but glazes over it a bit. It's a reference anyone can change of course so take it with a grain of salt. ITU relaxed their position about this time last year to include "evolving technologies" of which WiMax, LTE and HSPDA are all included.
So the reality is, all the carriers can make the 4G claim and sleep comfortably and the extended reality is, the speeds are all showing that next evolutionary step in speed, even if the technology as it sits today is just that. Steps toward LTE Advanced and whatever WiMax is calling their next version. As a TMobile customer, and one that it seems will stay with the TMobile branding it's unfortunate they are using a technology that has it's limits. But I'm getting 10-15Mbps on occasion and solid 7 to 8 Mbps speeds generally speaking so I'm not complaining. Until the carriers clear more spectrum what "G" it is isn't relevant to me. With 2Gbps, or even 5Gb soft caps I don't need to get to my ceiling any faster than I am now.
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Doesn't look like it to me... that's half the speed
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Well technically it is a quarter of the speed. If you are going by 100mbs defintion.
By industry standards , marketing, its 4g. But the term is meaningless. It is way faster than previous generation of phones.
So whatever, I'm calling 4g.
Multi-channel HSPA is capable of ~40Mbps, which is damned fast.
Call it what you want; technically LTE ir WiMax is 4g, but if it runs as fast as the others, who cares what it's called?
You would think at those speeds you'll burn through your data cap in days. I don't get the requirement for faster data speeds let alone just for minor things.
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Multi-channel HSPA is capable of ~40Mbps, which is damned fast.
Call it what you want; technically LTE ir WiMax is 4g, but if it runs as fast as the others, who cares what it's called?
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I don't know about the other providers though. I will do some more research when I get out for Christmas break.
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Can we end this stupid 4g/3g debate? I'll end it for you right now.
Until a few months ago NONE of the technologies out were 4g, not LTE, not WiMax, not HSAP+ ...BUT the ITU (International Telecommunications Union), which are the people that say what's what in the wireless industry, folded under the marketing schemes of the big 4 here in the U.S. and said that TECHNICALLY NOW LTE, WiMax, and HSPA+ All count as 4g. So...yes they have 4g. A few months ago they didn't. Now they do.
So what was the trick again? lol
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I don't know if you still have the sticker, but look on top of your Galaxy S2 and there should be a sticker that reads "Qualcomm 3G HSDPA". Sorry folks, correction HSDPA*
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Yeah... mine says 4G also.. odd your sticker is different... As for hitting your cap faster, that doesnt really make much sense since it is just loading faster not loading more..
I have no issues calling it 4G since I get about 19-25 in the late hours pf the night and no less than 13 during prime time hours.
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Well sort of. Wiki mentions it but glazes over it a bit. It's a reference anyone can change of course so take it with a grain of salt. ITU relaxed their position about this time last year to include "evolving technologies" of which WiMax, LTE and HSPDA are all included.
So the reality is, all the carriers can make the 4G claim and sleep comfortably and the extended reality is, the speeds are all showing that next evolutionary step in speed, even if the technology as it sits today is just that. Steps toward LTE Advanced and whatever WiMax is calling their next version. As a TMobile customer, and one that it seems will stay with the TMobile branding it's unfortunate they are using a technology that has it's limits. But I'm getting 10-15Mbps on occasion and solid 7 to 8 Mbps speeds generally speaking so I'm not complaining. Until the carriers clear more spectrum what "G" it is isn't relevant to me. With 2Gbps, or even 5Gb soft caps I don't need to get to my ceiling any faster than I am now.
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Wikipedia is an administrator-approved peer-editing system. For one, there are references to back up the claims made, two, you can't just click "edit" then put in whatever you want. A Wiki admin approves all edits made, so bogus stuff can't just be easily added. (Sorry, I'm just sick an tired of people claiming wiki is a poor source for valid information, when in reality it's one of the most largest and beneficial information sources on the internet. Again, sorry, didn't mean that as an attack on you lol)
Either way, yes, our "4G" is fast, but in reality it's not in comparison to what it should be. And for those of you with worries about your data caps, these will be removed in due time. It becomes easier and easier to reach those caps without any effort at all (Google Music being a perfect example), carriers won't have a choice but to remove data caps, especially with carriers like sprint still offering unlimited data (for now lol)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432756
Keep in mind that that is with a completely unloaded tower...
Sprint only has 10 mhz of spare spectrum in the PCS band, so before Clearwire or Lightsquared (if it gets FCC approval) roll out LTE, or Sprint decommissions the iDEN network, everyone will be using this small slice of spectrum. That means that each cell will be limited to a maximum of 40-60 mbps for all users to share.
Verizon uses at least 20 mhz of spectrum in all of its LTE coverage areas, so I don't think it's likely that Sprint's LTE will be able to outperform VZW's in its first year.
I love the "(At Least For Now)" nonsense.
I think I'll unfollow "android police" now.
Never see anyone make these type of comments directed at At&t or Verizon.
The fact is, even at their absolute best, Verizon and At&t LTE speeds were not even this fast.
However, I couldn't care less about having these speeds on a phone.
Anything above 10mbps is 'nice sounding' but honestly useless.
Keep it unlimited.
I don't know about you guys, but speeds like that are completely unnecessary. The speeds I get on 4g now is more than enough for everything I need, I'd rather have unlimited internet which I can use without worry, rather than have to deal with overages and etc.
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JSarella said:
I don't know about you guys, but speeds like that are completely unnecessary. The speeds I get on 4g now is more than enough for everything I need, I'd rather have unlimited internet which I can use without worry, rather than have to deal with overages and etc.
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I AGREE...but the good thing is more bandwidth should mean less server/network traffic which is good for the end users and should mean faster overall speeds
mattykinsx said:
I love the "(At Least For Now)" nonsense.
I think I'll unfollow "android police" now.
Never see anyone make these type of comments directed at At&t or Verizon.
The fact is, even at their absolute best, Verizon and At&t LTE speeds were not even this fast.
However, I couldn't care less about having these speeds on a phone.
Anything above 10mbps is 'nice sounding' but honestly useless.
Keep it unlimited.
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Actually there are people that still get 40-50 mb download speeds on verizon even now WITH people on the network. Perhaps you should do a little more homework.
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Actually there are people that still get 40-50 mb download speeds on verizon even now WITH people on the network. Perhaps you should do a little more homework.
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Lmfao.
Completely full of ****.
Never seen anyone talk about anywhere close to those speeds, even when LTE for Verizon was just released
http://www.phonearena.com/news/4G-s...e-holds-the-fort-in-smartphone-speeds_id17405
I ran a speedtest against a verizon customer inside Fry's electronics in Roseville, CA and the guy's phone hit 29mbps consistently. It doesnt sound TOO unrealistic to me.
Edit: I can't remember if he was using a thunderbolt or bionic at the time but regardless he destroyed me lol
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Didn't have all the WooHoo commentary, but did show 50mbps on Verizon LTE using Pantech USB modem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related
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Didn't have all the WooHoo commentary, but did show 50mbps on Verizon LTE using Pantech USB modem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5AGEj7ftK4&feature=related
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Dedicated modem versus a phone. Does show the potential versus the usual reality though. Kinda makes me hope I move to NC. Verizon LTE coverage in the middle of no where I should be getting all the bandwidth
I heard from a friend his RAZR was netting 20/15 at best which beats the hell out of the 1.4 upload im getting now which would be the only complaint. Seems like the average users upload is a bit slower around 2-5 but still an improvement.
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Did you just link to a forum thread, in a new thread, when both threads are in the same forum?
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Did you just link to a forum thread, in a new thread, when both threads are in the same forum?
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There was a thread on it already, so I edited the OP. I was hoping this thread would die. lol
Ok...apparently no one here has read about how sprint is going to use a multi-switching system on all they're towers. Which means, its going to free up a lot more spectrum and allow for much more capacity. On top of it, when sprint completely converts to lte network, even more spectrum is going to be available. That's why a lot of these carriers are going or have gone lte. (Long term evolution). Instead of sprint running at 1900mhz , they will run lte at 700mhz.
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Ok...apparently no one here has read about how sprint is going to use a multi-switching system on all they're towers. Which means, its going to free up a lot more spectrum and allow for much more capacity. On top of it, when sprint completely converts to lte network, even more spectrum is going to be available. That's why a lot of these carriers are going or have gone lte. (Long term evolution). Instead of sprint running at 1900mhz , they will run lte at 700mhz.
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Why would anyone read?
Its Sprint, everything they do is wrong and a lie.
I can survive with 4-5 Mbps. What I need is unlimited data with no throttling, including when I use wifi tether.
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I can survive with 4-5 Mbps. What I need is unlimited data with no throttling, including when I use wifi tether.
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+1
I have a thunderbolt, its data connection is extremely fast, but I use my phones consistently throughout the day, and this means that I hit the 2GB limit within 3 weeks.
This is just regular use, If I were to steam on spotify, or last.fm or anything else, I'd be screwed within a week or two.
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Dedicated modem versus a phone. Does show the potential versus the usual reality though. Kinda makes me hope I move to NC. Verizon LTE coverage in the middle of no where I should be getting all the bandwidth
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The Sprint "test" was said to be dedicated Huawei modem also so it is one-to-one comparison.
BTW the Verizon test was supposedly done in *NYC*, not NC.
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Ok...apparently no one here has read about how sprint is going to use a multi-switching system on all they're towers. Which means, its going to free up a lot more spectrum and allow for much more capacity. On top of it, when sprint completely converts to lte network, even more spectrum is going to be available. That's why a lot of these carriers are going or have gone lte. (Long term evolution). Instead of sprint running at 1900mhz , they will run lte at 700mhz.
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Can you post a link?
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Okay....how long have I been saying this now? Seriously wise up people and start listening to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn0Drfu7QYM
I really just don't understand why T-mobile wouldn't include the ability to connect to 3G as well as H+ with this phone. It just sucks because you literally can't do anything on edge and it's pretty much useless. Is there any possible way to enable 3G and H+ through the APN's or something. (I did search around for this but couldn't find anything) Also it can apparently connect to AT&T 3G so wouldn't that show that it might be able to connect to T-mobile 3G in some way? (unless I'm completely wrong in assuming this lol)
Aren't our phones 4g?
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I really just don't understand why T-mobile wouldn't include the ability to connect to 3G as well as H+ with this phone. It just sucks because you literally can't do anything on edge and it's pretty much useless. Is there any possible way to enable 3G and H+ through the APN's or something. (I did search around for this but couldn't find anything) Also it can apparently connect to AT&T 3G so wouldn't that show that it might be able to connect to T-mobile 3G in some way? (unless I'm completely wrong in assuming this lol)
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All of tmo's 3g is H , you just can't connect to AT&T's 3g unless you have an AT&T sim card and are unlocked ...
You will just normally get an H instead of it saying 3g, IF you can't get H then you are not in a "Tmobile 3g area" ...
TMO H+ should show as 4g, but that depends on the ROM you are using, I don't remember what stock looked like .... I know mine says H when I am on tmo 3g and 4g when on H+ ...
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All of tmo's 3g is H , you just can't connect to AT&T's 3g unless you have an AT&T sim card and are unlocked ...
You will just normally get an H instead of it saying 3g, IF you can't get H then you are not in a "Tmobile 3g area" ...
TMO H+ should show as 4g, but that depends on the ROM you are using, I don't remember what stock looked like .... I know mine says H when I am on tmo 3g and 4g when on H+ ...
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Ohhhh now I get it lol I always wondered what the difference was between 4G and H on the status bar. Thanks a lot for clearing that up.
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Aren't our phones 4g?
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Yea but my question was for when we couldn't get 4g, but like tcboo said, H is 3G while 4G is actually H+.
Yeah he's correct 3g was just standbye, when data was being used it become H, data on my phone is 4g tho I don't see an H+
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relldroid said:
Aren't our phones 4g?
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Tmobile doesn't have 4G
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our 4g is actually 3g+ lol so all we have is 3g lol
Teo032 said:
our 4g is actually 3g+ lol so all we have is 3g lol
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Actually I believe if you check the ITU standards H+ qualifies for 4g so it can be called 4g , really when it was released 4g did not even qualify as 4g ....
When you are using 4g you will see both data and standby as 4g only when on "3g" will it show "3g" during non-data usage and will show H during data usage ... (or it should , might be different if using a non-stock ROM)
EDIT: 3g/H/4g/H+ , really when it comes down to it the name does not matter, the speed of the network is what matters, they can call it "BubbaSmith" band and I would not care, it is the speed that makes the actual difference ...
and in my "4g" area, TMO currently smokes VZ/AT&T "4g" ..
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Actually I believe if you check the ITU standards H+ qualifies for 4g so it can be called 4g , really when it was released 4g did not even qualify as 4g ....
When you are using 4g you will see both data and standby as 4g only when on "3g" will it show "3g" during non-data usage and will show H during data usage ... (or it should , might be different if using a non-stock ROM)
EDIT: 3g/H/4g/H+ , really when it comes down to it the name does not matter, the speed of the network is what matters, they can call it "BubbaSmith" band and I would not care, it is the speed that makes the actual difference ...
and in my "4g" area, TMO currently smokes VZ/AT&T "4g" ..
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It's true we have more or less 3.5g but Verizon has there 4g LTE which is according to statistics the fastest and true 4g, we come in 2nd i believe
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I'm hitting between 10-18Mb down and 2-9mb up with this beast, and no I don't live in a big metro area my lousy sensation topped out at
6mb down and 2mb up in the same area... as other person said idc Wtf they call it...its fast and consistent and cheaper then any other provider
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relldroid said:
It's true we have more or less 3.5g but Verizon has there 4g LTE which is according to statistics the fastest and true 4g, we come in 2nd i believe
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I have seen those reports as well, but the ones I have seen are always theoretical speeds ...
I know in my area where VZ has LTE, and I have H+ I still get better speeds ...
One of the things, not all CPU's regardless of the radio, have the chipset support to reach the maximum, but ours is one of them that does, as does the Skyrocket ....
Where I actually live I have crappy service , but next time I am town, I will try and remember to save a screen shot of my speeds, last time I was getting in the high 20's without any issues, but I do average around 18 down and 2.5 up ....
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Actually I believe if you check the ITU standards H+ qualifies for 4g so it can be called 4g , really when it was released 4g did not even qualify as 4g ....
When you are using 4g you will see both data and standby as 4g only when on "3g" will it show "3g" during non-data usage and will show H during data usage ... (or it should , might be different if using a non-stock ROM)
EDIT: 3g/H/4g/H+ , really when it comes down to it the name does not matter, the speed of the network is what matters, they can call it "BubbaSmith" band and I would not care, it is the speed that makes the actual difference ...
and in my "4g" area, TMO currently smokes VZ/AT&T "4g" ..
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Coming soon from T-Mobile, the next great things in smartphones. The Google Nebula running Fruit Loop on our new lightning fast BubbaSmith network.
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avarize said:
Coming soon from T-Mobile, the next great things in smartphones. The Google Nebula running Fruit Loop on our new lightning fast BubbaSmith network.
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LOL
But I thought that the new phone was code named "Deliverance" ????
I'm using a Sprint S3 on Page Plus that I purchased off ebay. The voice/text/data work just fine but the data speed is 1X and I'd like to somehow get the 3G to work. Can someone help me with that?
Thanks in advance.
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I'm using a Sprint S3 on Page Plus that I purchased off ebay. The voice/text/data work just fine but the data speed is 1X and I'd like to somehow get the 3G to work. Can someone help me with that?
Thanks in advance.
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Using a Sprint GS3 on Page Plus may mean that the 3G won't work. As Page Plus operates on Verizon's network, the Sprint radios in your GS3 won't operate on Verizon's 3G frequencies. Your best bet would have been to buy a Verizon GS3 as you likely could have gotten the 3G to work.
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Using a Sprint GS3 on Page Plus may mean that the 3G won't work. As Page Plus operates on Verizon's network, the Sprint radios in your GS3 won't operate on Verizon's 3G frequencies. Your best bet would have been to buy a Verizon GS3 as you likely could have gotten the 3G to work.
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How does, then, one sell a Sprint GS3 (SPH-L710) with 3G working on PP, on eBay? There are listings if you will see, with a working 3G. I just made the mistake of buying one with 1X data.
1X just means that you're in an area with no 3G. It doesn't mean that you're getting "1X" data speeds because 1X is what SMS and MMS are transferred over, its not actually a "data" signal
It may be that you just dont live in an area where verizon gives 3G
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1X just means that you're in an area with no 3G. It doesn't mean that you're getting "1X" data speeds because 1X is what SMS and MMS are transferred over, its not actually a "data" signal
It may be that you just dont live in an area where verizon gives 3G
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I'm pretty sure Verizon has 3G here (I live in the city of Chicago, and moving around the city doesb't give me 3G either).
Anyway, I'm pretty sure the guy who did the flashing couldn't get 3G antenna to work with PP, which is what he told me.
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How does, then, one sell a Sprint GS3 (SPH-L710) with 3G working on PP, on eBay? There are listings if you will see, with a working 3G. I just made the mistake of buying one with 1X data.
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This seems to be a recent development for myself, then. There are a few Sprint phones that look to be fully flashable to PP with 3G/MMS working. You may have purchased one that wasn't fully flashed. Making it work would likely require changing more than just the APN. My advice would be to contact a seller on ebay who is offering the service only and see if they can assist.
Why not just flash the radios? Your on xda where everyone flashes about everything. The seller would of flashed them. But not to mention he's legally not allowed to do anything about phones that are flashed to a different network as it became illegal the other day. Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken
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ReapersDeath said:
Why not just flash the radios? Your on xda where everyone flashes about everything. The seller would of flashed them. But not to mention he's legally not allowed to do anything about phones that are flashed to a different network as it became illegal the other day. Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken
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No idea how to flash the 3G radio.
As far as the legality is concerned. This phone was unlocked much before any of that, and since now it is not tied to any carrier anymore (and no terms of service), making changes to the firmware should be perfectly legal.
You'll need a donor phone to get 3g. Some might help you here, or go over to the Page Plus forum @ Howardforums and you should find your answers there. You'll need a newer build of QPST and DFS CDMA Tool demo.