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Hey all, Ive been thinking about what i miss about my pre, and besides the obvious wireless charging (one can dream, right) touchstone, the one other thing i miss the most is the glowing of the trackball device at the bottom of the phone for a notification.
Now i know there are many people who have WIMAX Notifier and will say to use that, but i really dont like it as much as a more behind the scenes and clean look, and W.N. keeps crashing and is really buggy.
My app idea would incorporate the 4 buttons at the bottom using different patterns for different notifications.
Ex:
Text: Glow all 4 slow
Email: Run from right to left back to right and repeat. (8 secs for one rotation)
Missed call: Glow only home
etc.
I searched and was not able to find anyone in the developing stages of an app for this. I would be more than happy to assist with the coding, but i have no programs or anything downloaded so far, and dont really have any idea what im doing, though i do know C, Java, & C++ a bit and can learn coding quickly.
Any idea on if this could be made to work, im pretty sure there has to be a way the light sensor sends a signal to the mocrocontroller to light the keys, but can it be done independently, outside of that code section? Any words of where to start with development of this app?
Thanks for the advice, please keep it relavent and to the point, i would REALLY like to make this a reality. Also please link me to any current development on this if you can find any.\
PS. I have an evo 4g, but i assume this would be a global android app.
PPS. Dont let my 2 post count dissuade you from the ferver i have to make this app a reality. I dont post a ton, but i am very serious about creating/developing this app with some help.
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Hey all, Ive been thinking about what i miss about my pre, and besides the obvious wireless charging (one can dream, right) touchstone, the one other thing i miss the most is the glowing of the trackball device at the bottom of the phone for a notification.
Now i know there are many people who have WIMAX Notifier and will say to use that, but i really dont like it as much as a more behind the scenes and clean look, and W.N. keeps crashing and is really buggy.
My app idea would incorporate the 4 buttons at the bottom using different patterns for different notifications.
Ex:
Text: Glow all 4 slow
Email: Run from right to left back to right and repeat. (8 secs for one rotation)
Missed call: Glow only home
etc.
I searched and was not able to find anyone in the developing stages of an app for this. I would be more than happy to assist with the coding, but i have no programs or anything downloaded so far, and dont really have any idea what im doing, though i do know C, Java, & C++ a bit and can learn coding quickly.
Any idea on if this could be made to work, im pretty sure there has to be a way the light sensor sends a signal to the mocrocontroller to light the keys, but can it be done independently, outside of that code section? Any words of where to start with development of this app?
Thanks for the advice, please keep it relavent and to the point, i would REALLY like to make this a reality. Also please link me to any current development on this if you can find any.\
PS. I have an evo 4g, but i assume this would be a global android app.
PPS. Dont let my 2 post count dissuade you from the ferver i have to make this app a reality. I dont post a ton, but i am very serious about creating/developing this app with some help.
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Already been done, go search the apps forum
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Already been done, go search the apps forum
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PM link? Cant find after hours of searching!
jerryparid said:
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It actually has not been done yet. All that has been done is Flashlight Alerts and WiMax Notifier.
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It actually has not been done yet. All that has been done is Flashlight Alerts and WiMax Notifier.
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Right, which are not clean at all. I want a more subtle item that is similar to the pre functionality.
Thanks for the clarification, ive been looking forever and couldnt find what i was looking for.
I think that is a great idea and would look cool as hell. Try making a quick flash demo to illustrate your idea. I'm with you and can definately visualize it but, maybe others can't. Don't give up, it's a great idea.
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I think that is a great idea and would look cool as hell. Try making a quick flash demo to illustrate your idea. I'm with you and can definately visualize it but, maybe others can't. Don't give up, it's a great idea.
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I think it's a FANTASTIC idea having the 4 bottom capacitive buttons blinking/flashing/glowing for notifications. I would definitely pay for this.
The number one thing I miss about my Nexus One (which I sold back in May) is the trackball notifications where it would glow different colors. Getting the 4 bottom buttons to glow/flash would suffice for me. $10 bounty pledged by me!
This would be such an awesome app...
Alright guys it sounds like there is an interest in making this happen. I will start to look into what it will take for the process to begin.
Stage 1: Getting a coding program installed and getting the HTC Sense open source code to start looking into the light sensor callout for hints of making the bottom LED's come on.
I am committed to this one guys! Sounds like there is a definate want for it thus far.
Good luck man...with all the devs have done with this device, I dont see why this wouldnt be possible.
Btw.... shouldnt this thread be in Apps/Themes section?
sent from EVO with XDA app.
This sounds great!
Alright guys, small update, got the software downloaded and the code/sdk for android 2.2. Wasnt motivated enough to put on my nerd hat and get into the code and start searching out the specific lines im looking for. The good news is I have a flow chart laid out for the notification in each scenario.
Gotta figure out how to ensure the program boots on startup and continues working until force closed.
I will be starting with Froyo, and will move it back to 2.1 eventually. My primary focus will be 2.2 on the Evo.
Welp guys i spent 10+ hours this weekend just to figure out that those LED's are only allowed control when the screen is on. This app is not possible without a significantly more experienced developer, who could make the screen control independent of the LED's. Given my little experience this has become too difficult for me to handle. I will sell my idea for free though!
Thanks for trying, would def be awesome if someone could come up with this. My old samsung instinct use to light up the bottom when it had messages, being that it was a samsung as well, I would *think* (i'm not developer) that there are def ppl with the skills to figure this out .... eventually =) thanks for trying....
ok so im trying to figure out how to edit the htc clock widget to open a different clock like desk clock. can this be done?
def's uncommon rom is the only one that i know of that does it. good luck getting him to tell you how. def is one of my favorite dev, i'm not calling him out. all the dev keep there findings to them selves really.
question... how come people don't share there tweeks and hacks anymore?
i remember full threads on reg edits, tweeks, and hacks, that people would share with the world. I actually had threads where i would take requests, and cab them up for people to be able to install easily.
big difference between the WM day to the current droid days.
cody
^be very nice if this were the case. As fully customisable, unique rom, suited to your needs.
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i sent a pm to the owner of the rom and i am awaiting a reply back. im not trying to take credit for something i just dont want to have to run beautiful widgets when i spent all the time on making custom flip clocks.
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def's uncommon rom is the only one that i know of that does it. good luck getting him to tell you how. def is one of my favorite dev, i'm not calling him out. all the dev keep there findings to them selves really.
question... how come people don't share there tweeks and hacks anymore?
i remember full threads on reg edits, tweeks, and hacks, that people would share with the world. I actually had threads where i would take requests, and cab them up for people to be able to install easily.
big difference between the WM day to the current droid days.
cody
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That is a very ****-headed thing to say. I am MORE than willing to help anyone out with reproducing ANY of my mods. I keep nothing secret, and I literally JUST replied to the OP's PM, just before reading your completely asinine comment. My PM box is FULL of questions AND answers with guidance on duplicating mods. Truth be told, I do not POST these modifications and how-to in their own threads for one reason only. I do not have the time to support them.
ok so i can find where the activity is and change it but when i push to the phone nothing changes...
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That is a very ****-headed thing to say. I am MORE than willing to help anyone out with reproducing ANY of my mods. I keep nothing secret, and I literally JUST replied to the OP's PM, just before reading your completely asinine comment. My PM box is FULL of questions AND answers with guidance on duplicating mods. Truth be told, I do not POST these modifications and how-to in their own threads for one reason only. I do not have the time to support them.
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Def, I was not trying to be a **** head and don't see that my post directed anything negative towards you. I was iust stating that a few years ago, members in the Windows mobile forums shared everything. Infact, there were http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/windows-mobile-hacks-tweaks/ forums just for regedits and hacks. I don't find that on the 2010 Android forums.
I didnt mention the guy who posted a zip file that was able to put the 6 bar signal meter in the task bar. He clearly stated that he pulled it out of your Rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8758884&postcount=22 Then your reply saying something about you not liking what he did. To me that said the Android developers didn't want the secret out of the bag. It's not just you. I have ran quite a few roms and really liked certain parts, but didn't keep it for the fact that I didn't like other parts. I have searched for ways to get just the good hacks and tweeks, but there just not there.
For the record..... I am sorry Def. I was not saying that your bad for not posting everything you do. I was just trying to say that there's a good chance he will not get the information he seeks. That's just the way Android forums are going these days.
here is a couple thing i would like to add to my roms, but cant find information on them. correct me if i'm wrong, but people just dont share this stuff.
1. 6 bar signal
2. htc clock widget launching vanilla clock
3. app drawer 5 icons wide,
4. battery percentage in battery icon
yes, def's roms have all of these. that is why i run his rom. at least until he bans me from his roms due to this thread.
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Def, I was not trying to be a **** head and don't see that my post directed anything negative towards you. I was iust stating that a few years ago, members in the Windows mobile forums shared everything. Infact, there were forums just for regedits and hacks. I don't find that on the 2010 Android forums.
I didnt mention the guy who posted a zip file that was able to put the 6 bar signal meter in the task bar. He clearly stated that he pulled it out of your Rom. Then your reply saying something about you not liking what he did. To me that said the Android developers didn't want the secret out of the bag. It's not just you. I have ran quite a few roms and really liked certain parts, but didn't keep it for the fact that I didn't like other parts. I have searched for ways to get just the good hacks and tweeks, but there just not there.
For the record..... I am sorry Def. I was not saying that your bad for not posting everything you do. I was just trying to say that there's a good chance he will not get the information he seeks. That's just the way Android forums are going these days.
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Well I would like to say he got me started and I found where the attribute is for opening world clock and I have changed it to deskclock but I think I'm doing something wrong with the apk tool because when I push it to the phone and launch it still opens world clock but in the files its self it says deskclock. I wish I knew more about the Android language but sadly I don't and I'm going to keep trying.
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Well I would like to say he got me started and I found where the attribute is for opening world clock and I have changed it to deskclock but I think I'm doing something wrong with the apk tool because when I push it to the phone and launch it still opens world clock but in the files its self it says deskclock. I wish I knew more about the Android language but sadly I don't and I'm going to keep trying.
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i am am really glad to see people like def who is trying to help others instead of just posting there roms.
I am 38 years old, married with 4 kids. i have been on the forums for a long time and know what and how they work. i was not trying to start anything, i love helping people and learning. that is why i like the forums.
i have made 2 apps for windows mobile and never thought of charging for them. one of the apps had over 20,000 downloads. my favorite thing to do was help people learn to make there own.
back on topic....
i would really like to have a zip to flash this htc clock mod. it is one of my favorite parts of def's uncommon rom. i dont have the time anymore to learn a lot of coding. at least i don't think so. kind of new to android so i dont know if it's easy or not. flashing zip files is easy. lol.
^ That would be pretty sweet! Wish everything was easy as flashing a zip.
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KGBxxx said:
^ That would be pretty sweet! Wish everything was easy as flashing a zip.
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i use to cab up rededits for easy installs. i dont know if you know what red edits are or not, but many people wouldnt do them because they were tough. cab files were just like apk for android. zip files are just as easy really. maybe someday.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/windows-m...e-regedits-get-em-here-requests-welcomed.html
I can't tell u how many times I've ask this question without anyone answering ....so maybe I'm the only one (prolly I'm missing something obvious)
But I have had no success finding anything useful (or even remotely close to wut I'm trying to find) while using the 'Search' option, in the 'XDA' app.
Does anyone know wuts up? ...will it ever be improved ...either I'm missing something or it needs removed, cuz as is, its completely useless!
*please, someone reply ...even just to say u don't have a clue but have also noticed it ...or that I'm stupid n the answer is right in my face ...just reply. Thnx.
Im tempted to say I agree, but I don't search enough.
One major thing I've noticed is that it's useless to the degree that it searches the whole damn site. It'd be nice if we could search forum specific or even thread specific.
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Im tempted to say I agree, but I don't search enough.
One major thing I've noticed is that it's useless to the degree that it searches the whole damn site. It'd be nice if we could search forum specific or even thread specific.
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This should already be possible in the app.
Yea should be more precise its hard looking for anything having to revert to the desktop and search is a pain
pulser_g2 said:
This should already be possible in the app.
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How do you do that? The only way I can search is by going back to the main screen, selecting more and then search. I do use the free app though.
Cool, nice to see I'm not the only one ...figures after I stop checking the thread, people start replying
But yeah, I was startin to think my app was defective. I should (prolly check the Actual 'tapatalk' since I finally bought it ...but I suspect its the same.
Thnx, for the responses
Is giving me a real headache! The cursor is ok until you want to move it somwhere, the the reply box flashes blue and the cursor wont go where you want to move it to, instead randomly landing anywhere on your text but where you want it. Its a complete nightmare!
Anybody else get this? Just wishing for a fix that would save hours of farting about in future.
use the tapatalk app!
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Is giving me a real headache! The cursor is ok until you want to move it somwhere, the the reply box flashes blue and the cursor wont go where you want to move it to, instead randomly landing anywhere on your text but where you want it. Its a complete nightmare!
Anybody else get this? Just wishing for a fix that would save hours of farting about in future.
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Agreed, it's a disaster.
And TapTalk sucks.
I think it's more of an Android issue rather than a galaxy Nexus issue as my HTC Desire does the same thing. I love Tapatalk but sadly not all forums I visit will enable Tapatalk (they'd rather you view their forums and the ads that come with it).
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I love Tapatalk but sadly not all forums I visit will enable Tapatalk
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I wished I had known this little fact before I went ahead and bought it. I mistakenly thought that Tapatalk was an add-on which could be used for all of my favorite forums. I first heard about it here and it turns out that this is the only forum that I read that uses it.
I didn't read and realize that it only works for those forums that you can convince to add support to. Not one of my regular forums are supported. I really wanted Television Without Pity too.
Oh well live and learn.
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Is giving me a real headache! The cursor is ok until you want to move it somwhere, the the reply box flashes blue and the cursor wont go where you want to move it to, instead randomly landing anywhere on your text but where you want it. Its a complete nightmare!
Anybody else get this? Just wishing for a fix that would save hours of farting about in future.
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Same issue here. The onl temporary work around I've figured out seems the cursor shows about one line above where I want it.
I usually move my finger to one line below where I think the cursor should go and it ends up in the right place.
Definitely frustrating and an issue. Would imagine with the source code being public, this might be a simplier issue to work on the motion event and tracking points ... Hope to see this resolved too!
Yeah, um. I don't know how to say this without sounding offensive. But the new format this page has. SUCKS! Oh yeah, I gotta ask a question. Alright, here goes. Why is it that I can enter something in the search bar here up to the right, and get NOTHING on a subject that I know for sure is here on XDA? I don't get it, and suddenly feel retarded everytime I try to use it since. It's a good thing I have a buncha bookmarks on my PC or I'd get totally lost within your search parameters. Believe me I already have more than a few times. Yeah, I'm obviously frustrated with it enough to write this little note for all you Admins, Moderators, whoever it is thats running things around here. Look, I should be able to enter something into the search bar and find it. But someone decided to change something that wasn't broke to begin with and now it's being difficult! Take this for an example. I'm researching a project I want to start. So, usually I would first start out in the search bar. Now go ahead, I dare ya! Enter this: Samsung Galaxy S Relay. That's an "exact" search parameter. Again with the no offense but, can any one of you tell me why I get directed to some page not even related? Where'd it lead me too? How to Root Any Device. Please fix your search parameters!
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Yeah, um. I don't know how to say this without sounding offensive. But the new format this page has. SUCKS! Oh yeah, I gotta ask a question. Alright, here goes. Why is it that I can enter something in the search bar here up to the right, and get NOTHING on a subject that I know for sure is here on XDA? I don't get it, and suddenly feel retarded everytime I try to use it since. It's a good thing I have a buncha bookmarks on my PC or I'd get totally lost within your search parameters. Believe me I already have more than a few times. Yeah, I'm obviously frustrated with it enough to write this little note for all you Admins, Moderators, whoever it is thats running things around here. Look, I should be able to enter something into the search bar and find it. But someone decided to change something that wasn't broke to begin with and now it's being difficult! Take this for an example. I'm researching a project I want to start. So, usually I would first start out in the search bar. Now go ahead, I dare ya! Enter this: Samsung Galaxy S Relay. That's an "exact" search parameter. Again with the no offense but, can any one of you tell me why I get directed to some page not even related? Where'd it lead me too? How to Root Any Device. Please fix your search parameters!
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Sorry you're having trouble, but I get relevant search results using Samsung Galaxy S Relay.
Try clearing your cache? A different xda theme? Or to test, try another browser?
You can browse the devices section too, https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s-relay-4g
Good luck! :good:
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Sorry you're having trouble, but I get relevant search results using Samsung Galaxy S Relay.
Try clearing your cache? A different xda theme? Or to test, try another browser?
From my tab, this is vastly different. I have to say, impressive compared to what I see on my pc. I'll clear cache. Thanks.
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Try clearing your cache? A different xda theme? Or to test, try another browser?
From my tab, this is vastly different. I have to say, impressive compared to what I see on my pc. I'll clear cache. Thanks.
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Next to the search bar , there's a button called "search plus" , click on it and you'll have the right search bar ( the little one you were using is to search between article from XDA Portal)
Okay, I'm back for a follow up, because this seems to be an obvious difficulty and I'll bet I'm not the only one that may be having issues with this. It's a navigation thing about the current format I see here on XDA. I noticed it a few weeks ago and it's not my cache. When I'm on my tablet I can navigate fine, but when I come here on my PC it's another story, and it's very frustrating. That's why you got this question before you in such a way. You guys who may understand it having set it up know how to get around. As I mentioned before it used to be fairly easy, now it's stupid not to belittle you. The problem is that it has suddenly become difficult to search for things in a normal maner. I use the search bar, which should dirrectly link me to what I am "specifically" looking for and let's put aside the search plus for the moment. If I'm searching for something that I know is there and I type in certain words that should bring me right to it, my question is, why aren't they! I'm getting redirected to some page, often of no relevance. And here's where I'll bet this is happening to others. So what's going on? There's a problem with your search bar, and I'm letting you know it's kinda frustrating. I can navigate through here with other ways, that's not a problem. I got some bookmarked, subscribed to, ect. The issue is that the search bar in itself is broken! Whatever you guys did to it, I saw it, pointing it out! Now fix it please. This might help. I noticed a difference about two weeks ago. Not sure what it is or was. I even cleared out from my PC anything that would suggestively lead to it being my PC settings. Being a good enough percentage to say it's not, it's therefore XDA.
On a side note for all you Admins and Mods. I've been coming here over 10 years now, I got questions and suggestions. But right now my suggestion is to please eliminate some obvious confusion I've noticed that affects an average user to navigate through your search areas.
Oh! Okay, there's the sudden difference!
[QUOTE( the little one you were using is to search between article from XDA Portal)[/QUOTE]
Wow. Really? Let me ask you something about what's that all about and why did this change and for what possible reason. And then why isn't there some notice the the search bar is no longer effective as it's says it is. I'll point for you guys that the search bar says QUOTE; Type device or find apps, ROMs & more. It does not say, "This is where you go to find stuff barely relevant to what you're searching for". Does it! Sorry that this may sound offending buuut. Bad words! To me, the search bar suddenly became a joke, and a bad one at that! Articles are nice but that's not what I was looking for. And in no way was I expecting to end up there.
Okay, so here's a basic question. let's put this on the table so to speak. I don't know why you put a link to articles in the search bar in such a way to begin with. It doesn't really make sense to me. Especially with your nifty new format of where everything is, except articles I'm going to guess. So you put them in the search bar with no notice of. Can you explain all that to me? Cuz right now I'm sorry to admit, I'm kinda laughing at this. I can just imagine all you went through, even deciding on how to change the old format to what I see now. It's good. However, when it comes to the search bar, whatever idea you went with. It's one that didn't notify anyone that the search bar isn't what it says it is~!
Ignoring your saltiness, why dont you use google and append each search with xda..
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Wow. Really? Let me ask you something about what's that all about and why did this change and for what possible reason. And then why isn't there some notice the the search bar is no longer effective as it's says it is. I'll point for you guys that the search bar says QUOTE; Type device or find apps, ROMs & more. It does not say, "This is where you go to find stuff barely relevant to what you're searching for". Does it! Sorry that this may sound offending buuut. Bad words! To me, the search bar suddenly became a joke, and a bad one at that! Articles are nice but that's not what I was looking for. And in no way was I expecting to end up there.
Okay, so here's a basic question. let's put this on the table... !
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You seem to be angry and it's a pity. Did you try the suggestion provided by RaiZProduction in a previous post? Does the Search Plus button (see my screenshot attached) allow you to find what you are usually looking for on XDA Forum?
You might want to step back a second and read carefully!
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You seem to be angry and it's a pity. Did you try the suggestion provided by RaiZProduction in a previous post? Does the Search Plus button (see my screenshot attached) allow you to find what you are usually looking for on XDA Forum?
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I'm far from angry. But check this out. This is the Q & A section is it not? So i'm askinfg a question about a difference I noticed and the A's I'm getting are a joke! Really? Hey Wood Man? You're deflecting. Step off unless you got something relevant to say. To those of you at XDA I now have a minor complaint! You people need to read what I said. I said I noticed a difference with the search bar and could someone tell me whats wrong with it. The answer I got was a confirmation that the search bar was not functional as it says it is and that's it. So. Mr Wood Man. Did I follow the suggestion you mentioned? Ahem! Are you asking to get put down blatantly or what? I made a post, RaiZProduction made a suggestion, what may I ask you is the post after that? Mine! A follow up. Before you decide to jump in there, you might wanna inform yourself better.. This here Q & A asked, "Rather than sending a PM to an individual Moderator, please feel free to ask questions in need of Moderator or Admin assistance. We will all be monitoring this thread, and someone will reply without much delay." Well, I obviously came to the right place didn't I? Everyone has a personal preference and I used the search bar a lot.
OK, I'll stop this here.
Answers were given, some with ideas, others saying all is fine for them. And also your opinion on the search is noted. However, it seems to work for everyone else, so not sure what more to say.
And honestly, your aggressive posts are getting a bit much, so I'll end this before lines get crossed. I suggest a more respectful approach in the future Sir. :good:
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