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Ok, so normally I hate placeholders, but I'd like to give you guys an update of where I am at. Once I am finished tweaking, I will release. The base rom is done, now the modding and tweaking needs to happen.
So far:
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Deodexed, Debloated, Debinged, and mostly, detouchwizzed. Debinged...even in the framework. I think* all Bing traces are gone now.
Visual voice mail gone, voice mail button in dialer opens Google Voice.
Verizon Wireless carrier banner replaced with something....better.
MMS app will not longer do multi-part messages, but instead convert to MMS automatically once the 160 character mark is hit.
GPS tweaked.
Wow in one day of having the phone you have a rom halfway competed
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Wow, I can't wait for this even though we have had bad experiences with place holders, I know this isn't the case lol..
I don't know how many times I'm going to say thank you, but here is another thanks!
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along the lines of changes to the voicemail button.....it would be awesome if the ticker's voicemail icon could correspond to Google Voice...but I am sure that is a lot more involved than changing the button's link in the Dialer.
a similar desire exists for the sms icon to correspond to Handcent
I used titanium backup to remove the stock messaging app and that killed the ticker's SMS icon functionality....I saved the stock app to reinstall but that introduces a different problem....the ticker icon doesn't go away reliably after having read the text in Handcent.
maybe this thread wasn't intended for our wish list items.....if that is the case, I apologize.
thanks for your help to our little Continuum family!
thanks for the help here adryn! my wife has the continuum, and i got hers to load red recovery, and the other modded rom.
question on this rom you are building..will it have the bstats and fxpms scripts? are the ones for fascinate compatable with contunuum?
thanks...
Samsung Fascinate
SuperClean 2.91 & EC10 Voodoo
Nitro Ultimate HoneyComb 3.0 Theme
Member of Android Anonymous, as a recovering Android bricking addict. I have been brick free for over 30 days.
U rock thanks for ur work
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Gr8 to hear this tha sum1 is eveloping on this lovely handset
Awesome man, you do some quick work man. Thanks for everything.
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Glad to see this hasn't been abandoned completely yet. I just got this phone in February! Can't wait to see the results. Thanks!
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well i have a tbolt (great work over there btw), but my fiance has a continuum and i want to get her some real android action so thanks for the hard work.
eric2112 said:
Glad to see this hasn't been abandoned completely yet. I just got this phone in February! Can't wait to see the results. Thanks!
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It was all but abandoned. Glad to see some progression!
Also, I saw some news on 2.3 leaks for SGS phones, do you have any info on this adrynalyne? Like a I400 leak perhaps... /lookleft /lookright
Sweet! Looking forward to seeing where this may go!
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It was all but abandoned. Glad to see some progression!
Also, I saw some news on 2.3 leaks for SGS phones, do you have any info on this adrynalyne? Like a I400 leak perhaps... /lookleft /lookright
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the gingerbread leaks are only for gsm galaxy s phones...no help for the epic or fascinate/continuum
even our (fascinate) 2.2 cant be directly flashed without issues...but whether or not adryn can put together some kinda hybrid rom...idk we ll see
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Visual voice mail gone, voice mail button in dialer opens Google Voice.
GPS tweaked.
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curious (warning - n00b question) - would it be possible to make the GV VM connection optional for those of us who don't use GV?
Also, what do you mean by GPS tweaked? The only thing i've noticed about mine is when i'm out geocaching with c:geo or using google maps to navigate while walking, sometimes the compass seems to be off by 180 degrees. when driving, google nav seems fine - likely since it can figure out direction based on previous locations in the same way it figures speed, but i don't walk fast enough for it to figure out direction - especially when geocaching since i'm always stopping to look for the cache.
all told - that's pretty impressive that you knocked out so much stuff in the short time you have had the phone! Thanks for your help with this device!
Any chance you have cracked open the ticker, or at least made it more useful to people who don't use the stock apps (that is... EVERYONE)?
One suggestion i saw somewhere (probably here) really interested me - put the notification area in the ticker screen and make it big enough to fill it, so you dont' have to try and hook into their custom ticker app - just use the existing system one, only relocated/resized. that way all system notifications (no matter what app they're from) will be visible in the ticker, all the time, as well as the time of day, and apps won't have to be custom-written to take advantage of the ticker; they'd just WORK.
I just can't wait till it is out I am looking forward to it
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http://forum.androidcentral.com/samsung-continuum/73450-rom-3-30-11-clean-continuum-dl17.html
;DDD
I have downloaded the ron and installed it. It is very nice. I do have one problem though when the phone boots it is a black screen no Verizon logo or a new one it is all black till the phone loads is that supposed to happen
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I have downloaded the ron and installed it. It is very nice. I do have one problem though when the phone boots it is a black screen no Verizon logo or a new one it is all black till the phone loads is that supposed to happen
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yes this is normal for now
tazzstrike said:
I have downloaded the ron and installed it. It is very nice. I do have one problem though when the phone boots it is a black screen no Verizon logo or a new one it is all black till the phone loads is that supposed to happen
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shoot - as long as it doesn't affect anything else, i'd take that over the annoying, noisy crap vzw put on there. is the shutdown screen also black/silent?
I don't have the phone right here handy atm but, I've already downloaded the Rom and alt browser. looking forward to flashing it to my boy's phone! I know he'll be happy too. One thing I love about these Android phones is how they give us the ability to have that "new phone" feeling any time we like, thanks to their rich development community. This is one thing the Continuum crowd has missed out on until now.
Besides it being new what are you really gaining. Tons of apps don't work on it. Besides folders and multitasking I don't even know what I'm really gaining. And if I have to lose one feature my phone has now ill pass. Phone works too good right now and ics theme will hold me over for a long time.
I understand everybody wants what is new but think about everything your really gaining. To me its like IOS 4.3 to 5. I upgraded my Ipad 2 lost jailbreak for what I see as a minor upgrade.
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You can stay on gingerbread then, it wont bother me really
I think you need to read up on what actually ICS changes besides icons and themes....
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I think you need to read up on what actually ICS changes besides icons and themes....
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From the leaks, we are not getting the new ui because of twiz
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From the leaks, we are not getting the new ui because of twiz
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Once it starts hitting custom roms, I'm sure we will be getting all sorts of interesting things.
Fataldesain said:
Besides it being new what are you really gaining. Tons of apps don't work on it. Besides folders and multitasking I don't even know what I'm really gaining. And if I have to lose one feature my phone has now ill pass. Phone works too good right now and ics theme will hold me over for a long time.
I understand everybody wants what is new but think about everything your really gaining. To me its like IOS 4.3 to 5. I upgraded my Ipad 2 lost jailbreak for what I see as a minor upgrade.
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You sound like a old man in his old ways lol jk. I can't speak for everyone else but I bought my phone because it was at the time of purchase ahead of every curve (with the exception of nfc) so now that something is out that can make the phone better why the would I not want it. I'm patient in waiting but would love to have it yesterday
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How about true dual core support? or gpu acceleration through the whole phone?
List goes on.
Gingerbread has "true dual core support"
I'm not greedy. Because it's the New thing is the best answer I got. Newer is better right? J/k
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...bad joke.
Fataldesain said:
Besides it being new what are you really gaining. Tons of apps don't work on it. Besides folders and multitasking I don't even know what I'm really gaining. And if I have to lose one feature my phone has now ill pass. Phone works too good right now and ics theme will hold me over for a long time.
I understand everybody wants what is new but think about everything your really gaining. To me its like IOS 4.3 to 5. I upgraded my Ipad 2 lost jailbreak for what I see as a minor upgrade.
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Thanks to the informative Android blogs and tons of videos, most people know why they want ICS besides having a new look. As for your Ipad and losing jailbreak, you probably should have read in advance to see what features iOS 5 had before taking the plunge. I remember reading multiple times that people with jailbreak should hold up on iOS 5 until an untethered jailbreak is done. But hey, this is about Android
What I'm really waiting for is a nice AOSP ICS with everything working. I am less enthusiastic about TW ICS.
One of the videos showed better app controlled , limit or block apps from background data
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Hmm... OP you should consider the fact that ICS source was only recently released and I think the Nexus Prime launched just today. Of course not all apps are going to work you have to give app developers time to update the apps to be compatible. It's not all going to happen overnight that's why these things take time for the transition. Although I'm a little disappointed that TW covers up some features, I am looking forward to:
*Scrollable widgets
*The swipe gesture to remove notifications
*New notification bar Info slots (i.e. when you get a text you see the contact pic)
*Face Unlock (even though it can be bypassed it's cool nonetheless)
*Camera Speed
*New widget placement UI
*New Cool Blue Look
*The drag and drop feature to make folders
*How the app market stays in the app drawer on the top right
*The minimalist layout of all the Google Apps
*A few other things I'm sure everybody knows by now...
Not to say that you have poor judgment, I do advise reading up a little more on the updates before you jump in and discredit them for changing anything. I think Google is actually just trying to make Android more accessible to more than just Devs, if anything at least give them credit for that.
If you want an entire list of things that are new and how they work, read this review (Personally I think it's the best review that covers everything) it's 7 Pages!
LINK
Guys all I'm saying is it seems like alot of people want ics just because and are foaming at the mouth for it. Isn't alot of your apps not working kinda a big deal. People should just calm down enjoy gingerbread for a few more months.
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Improved multitasking is enough for me....a better looking OS.....speed.....better hardware acceleration...more efficient......data monitoring.......ability to block certain apps from accessing data and last but not least.............camera app (that thing needed updating)
ICS is what Android needs to be to fully compete with IOS the only real threat(since Isheep see differently). I am not too anxious to see TW and Sense on ICS
I remember when iphone first came out my buddies back in college were saying look at what I can do.....I pulled out my cingular blue razr v3 and said check this out....made a call lol
Just gotta wait till the apps are updated thats all
I have to agree with OP,to a certain extent. A lot of the new features are incremental, and I think you can duplicate most of them with already available apps/mods. Not to say I'm not going to flash ICS as soon as a good rom comes out, but I am pretty satisfied with how my phone runs now. ICS is the first step to integrate the Android phone /tablet os, like ios ,and will be much better as it evolves.
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Only if your hiding something?
Sure, you may be able to replicate some of those features with other apps, but thats the point... it brings these features to stock android.
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*Scrollable widgets - Already offered in custom launchers
*The swipe gesture to remove notifications - Just extra glamour
*New notification bar Info slots (i.e. when you get a text you see the contact pic) - More extra glamour
*Face Unlock (even though it can be bypassed it's cool nonetheless) - There are apps that already offer this
*Camera Speed - Is a hardware feature of Galaxy Nexus, not ICS
*New widget placement UI - Very similar to TouchWiz
*New Cool Blue Look - Already have themes for this
*The drag and drop feature to make folders - Already offered in custom launchers
*How the app market stays in the app drawer on the top right - Already offered in custom launchers
*The minimalist layout of all the Google Apps - Will be available based on app, not Android version
*A few other things I'm sure everybody knows by now...
Many of the things that you've listed can already be achieved or are part of the Galaxy Nexus and not ICS. Just kind of goes to reinforce the idea that most people really don't know why they want ICS. I personally find ICS to be a bit too intrusive into my privacy, especially seeing as in the recently used app overlay it shows you the last picture you took. Definitely not appealing to people in relationships.
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Although I do see your point, the OP asks why I want ICS. I'm entitled to my opinion right? and I noticed the majority of the things you quoted and responded to have to do with modding the system in some way. How about having it all in one package and not having to download a bunch of apps to imitate what should come stock in the OS.
And what's wrong with a little "extra glamour" ?
I just want stock Gingerbread with better battery life and no CarrierIQ. I don't know how much faster people need these little computers to be but the E4GT is fast enough.
Had my SGSII for about 3 months now. Rooted the 1st week I brought it home. I've been flashing ROMs left and right, trying to find that certain one that best fits my lifestyle.
I've landed on the Darkside, and found my flavor there.
Because of "all this talk" about ICS, and only going (OTA) to unlocked un-rooted phones. I've successfully un-rooted, and went back to stock.
With all the benefits of having a phone rooted (nandroid backup, uninstalling bloatware), i ended up asking myself "WHY". Why do I really need to be rooted. The only time i ever do a nandroid backup is when I flash a new ROM. After much consideration, I ended realizing that the ONLY main reason I want my phone rooted is to re-place the Gmail.apk in the system's folder to a modded Gmail.apk - so I can put my unread count widget on my home screen.
Yeah yeah yeah.. i know there is a apk in the market named "Google Unread Count 2.0", but it doesn't read your unread count email in real-time. It takes a few minutes for the widget to update.
Other, than that there really is no pressing reason to have my phone rooted.
Now for the OTA update waiting game..
lawalty said:
Had my SGSII for about 3 months now. Rooted the 1st week I brought it home. I've been flashing ROMs left and right, trying to find that certain one that best fits my lifestyle.
I've landed on the Darkside, and found my flavor there.
Because of "all this talk" about ICS, and only going (OTA) to unlocked un-rooted phones. I've successfully un-rooted, and went back to stock.
With all the benefits of having a phone rooted (nandroid backup, uninstalling bloatware), i ended up asking myself "WHY". Why do I really need to be rooted. The only time i ever do a nandroid backup is when I flash a new ROM. After much consideration, I ended realizing that the ONLY main reason I want my phone rooted is to re-place the Gmail.apk in the system's folder to a modded Gmail.apk - so I can put my unread count widget on my home screen.
Yeah yeah yeah.. i know there is a apk in the market named "Google Unread Count 2.0", but it doesn't read your unread count email in real-time. It takes a few minutes for the widget to update.
Other, than that there really is no pressing reason to have my phone rooted.
Now for the OTA update waiting game..
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Why not?... yet better question.
lawalty said:
Had my SGSII for about 3 months now. Rooted the 1st week I brought it home. I've been flashing ROMs left and right, trying to find that certain one that best fits my lifestyle.
I've landed on the Darkside, and found my flavor there.
Because of "all this talk" about ICS, and only going (OTA) to unlocked un-rooted phones. I've successfully un-rooted, and went back to stock.
With all the benefits of having a phone rooted (nandroid backup, uninstalling bloatware), i ended up asking myself "WHY". Why do I really need to be rooted. The only time i ever do a nandroid backup is when I flash a new ROM. After much consideration, I ended realizing that the ONLY main reason I want my phone rooted is to re-place the Gmail.apk in the system's folder to a modded Gmail.apk - so I can put my unread count widget on my home screen.
Yeah yeah yeah.. i know there is a apk in the market named "Google Unread Count 2.0", but it doesn't read your unread count email in real-time. It takes a few minutes for the widget to update.
Other, than that there really is no pressing reason to have my phone rooted.
Now for the OTA update waiting game..
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To each their own but there are many more reasons to root other than a Gmail.apk. If your waiting on an OTA ICS update you will be waiting awhile longer. But again to each their own.
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lawalty said:
Had my SGSII for about 3 months now. Rooted the 1st week I brought it home. I've been flashing ROMs left and right, trying to find that certain one that best fits my lifestyle.
I've landed on the Darkside, and found my flavor there.
Because of "all this talk" about ICS, and only going (OTA) to unlocked un-rooted phones. I've successfully un-rooted, and went back to stock.
With all the benefits of having a phone rooted (nandroid backup, uninstalling bloatware), i ended up asking myself "WHY". Why do I really need to be rooted. The only time i ever do a nandroid backup is when I flash a new ROM. After much consideration, I ended realizing that the ONLY main reason I want my phone rooted is to re-place the Gmail.apk in the system's folder to a modded Gmail.apk - so I can put my unread count widget on my home screen.
Yeah yeah yeah.. i know there is a apk in the market named "Google Unread Count 2.0", but it doesn't read your unread count email in real-time. It takes a few minutes for the widget to update.
Other, than that there really is no pressing reason to have my phone rooted.
Now for the OTA update waiting game..
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Gonna be a loooooooooong wait my friend.
Btw, I can't imagine android without root, (rooted since the g1).
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Nothing wrong with stock...stable, fairly fast. But don't hold your breath for ICS...
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I find it amusing that the only justifiable reason for you to root is a modded gmail
There are so many reasons to root it's not even a question of "why".
How about Carrier IQ? Or full control over Theming? Custom Kernels, build.prop, CWM Touch Recovery? You can't be serious about a gmail notification being the sole reason for rooting.
Oh and btw, if you haven't learned this yet, you may want to pay attention:
Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA.
So, if you want to give up control of your device just to wait longer for something that hasn't even officially been announced yet, more power to you. Say hi to Carrier IQ for me
u not the only I haven't rooted my sgs2 yet, waiting on the official ics update.
What is the point of this thread? Who cares if you root or not.
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u not the only I haven't rooted my sgs2 yet, waiting on the official ics update.
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Who said it's even coming to your phone, just because Samsung said it's now being sent OTA does NOT mean you will get it. The fact that you have a carrier branded phone means that Tmobile will get it's hands on it first then do it's wonderful (sarcasm) magic and bloat it with there apps like Tmobile TV and so on. Then IF they choose to make it available they will send it there's NO time frame on that. All I have to do it's point out the Tmobile's version of the Samsung Galaxy S, the Vibrant, which NEVER got Gingerbread like the other Galaxy S phone that did. Samsung announced and released an OTA for the Galaxy S but Tmobile in there infinite wisdom chose NOT to release it to the Vibrant. So just because Samsung announced and is sending a OTA ICS does NOT mean you're going to get it. You will have to WAIT for your carrier IF and when they announce it, PERIOD!
Though it may only he available to stock unrooted users, its often a matter of a few days to get an rooted stock rom up so thats not an issue for me
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iLeopard said:
Though it may only he available to stock unrooted users, its often a matter of a few days to get an rooted stock rom up so thats not an issue for me
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You should read the thread before posting...someone already said what you said.
"Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA."
ingenious247 said:
I find it amusing that the only justifiable reason for you to root is a modded gmail
There are so many reasons to root it's not even a question of "why".
How about Carrier IQ? Or full control over Theming? Custom Kernels, build.prop, CWM Touch Recovery? You can't be serious about a gmail notification being the sole reason for rooting.
Oh and btw, if you haven't learned this yet, you may want to pay attention:
Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA.
So, if you want to give up control of your device just to wait longer for something that hasn't even officially been announced yet, more power to you. Say hi to Carrier IQ for me
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Within hours there will be a stock Deodexed rooted tar and CWM zip.. I know this because I'm going to be doing it lol. Have my ics working folder ready to rock.
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Wtf... This guy trying to make a documentary of his personal phone desires..as said previously who cares what you decide to do with your phone...we don't need to be informed your un rooting and waiting... If that's what you choose do be it but y in the hell would you think we need to know, or much less care
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personally, i like the ability to get into the rooted side of es file explorer to modify the build prop, change lcd density, insert init.d script edit for better battery life. hell, how about undervolting the kernel with oc apps to get upwards of 24 hours out of a single charge? also, while the tmo roms are good, they cant hold a candle to the 2.3.5 roms from ATT...i dont know what it is but those roms run like a dream on this snapdragon soc.
final thought - I love tmo, dont get me wrong, but if you think that tmo will be the first to get ics ota then maybe you know something i dont. considering that, i hypothesize that ics (or even cm9) will be available for flashy goodness long before its ever beamed to our phones.
ingenious247 said:
I find it amusing that the only justifiable reason for you to root is a modded gmail
There are so many reasons to root it's not even a question of "why".
How about Carrier IQ? Or full control over Theming? Custom Kernels, build.prop, CWM Touch Recovery? You can't be serious about a gmail notification being the sole reason for rooting.
Oh and btw, if you haven't learned this yet, you may want to pay attention:
Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA.
So, if you want to give up control of your device just to wait longer for something that hasn't even officially been announced yet, more power to you. Say hi to Carrier IQ for me
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Very good point.. I forgot about the Carrier IQ.
cbinvb said:
personally, i like the ability to get into the rooted side of es file explorer to modify the build prop, change lcd density, insert init.d script edit for better battery life. hell, how about undervolting the kernel with oc apps to get upwards of 24 hours out of a single charge? also, while the tmo roms are good, they cant hold a candle to the 2.3.5 roms from ATT...i dont know what it is but those roms run like a dream on this snapdragon soc.
final thought - I love tmo, dont get me wrong, but if you think that tmo will be the first to get ics ota then maybe you know something i dont. considering that, i hypothesize that ics (or even cm9) will be available for flashy goodness long before its ever beamed to our phones.
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i also forgot about undervolting.. another good point.
bobby3306 said:
Wtf... This guy trying to make a documentary of his personal phone desires..as said previously who cares what you decide to do with your phone...we don't need to be informed your un rooting and waiting... If that's what you choose do be it but y in the hell would you think we need to know, or much less care
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Ah... what a troll. If u don't like my thread, then git!
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Nope not a troll, just don't see where what you personally do with your
phone matters to anyone else...another pointless waste of space thread started
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ingenious247 said:
I find it amusing that the only justifiable reason for you to root is a modded gmail
There are so many reasons to root it's not even a question of "why".
How about Carrier IQ? Or full control over Theming? Custom Kernels, build.prop, CWM Touch Recovery? You can't be serious about a gmail notification being the sole reason for rooting.
Oh and btw, if you haven't learned this yet, you may want to pay attention:
Once the update starts rolling out to the general public, the official version will be leaked on xda and you will be able to flash through CWM. I'm sure within days there will also be a rooted stock version as well. This will be well BEFORE you get the OTA.
So, if you want to give up control of your device just to wait longer for something that hasn't even officially been announced yet, more power to you. Say hi to Carrier IQ for me
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Relax... You sound like he stood you up on a date
I also havent rooted since getting my replacement phone... The phone is great without it and 75% of the roms and themes are the same thing just a dif battery mod or kernel (not many choices on this phone) I just think rooting isnt that big of a deal anymore since phones are becoming more powerful
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bobby3306 said:
Nope not a troll, just don't see where what you personally do with your
phone matters to anyone else...another pointless waste of space thread started
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To each their own. Opinions are like armpits. Everyone has them, and some (like your comments) simply stink.
If you don't have anything to give to benefit, then get the [email protected]#k out of my thread, and stop trolling, or i'll report you.
I mean it.
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Guys I put a case on my phone today. I know some of you guys don't use them but I don't see why you don't.
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Guys I put a case on my phone today. I know some of you guys don't use them but I don't see why you don't.
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what kind of case?
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Everyone wants to unlock their bootloader so they can run a custom ROM, the supposed purpose being to improve performance and gain new features. But then, once they get the new ROM on there, they keep posting about all the problems they are having, and how this, that or the other doesn't work as well as stock. After goofing with every, and I mean EVERY ROM available for the Razr M, IMHO there's absolutely no reason to use a custom ROM if you are expecting "like stock" performance. It's fun, it's addicting, it can get crazy sometimes, but don't expect it to ever be "Final". More than likely, it will be abandoned the moment a new phone or Android version comes along, and you'll be left with all those unsolved FCs and "almost works" features left hanging. Sad, really.
And then there's the whole "let's take the stock ROM from some other phone entirely and try to make it work on our phone" thing. I totally don't get that. If you like the Necco Choco-Android-o-rama's OS so well, why not just buy that phone instead? I'm just sayin'...
Rooting? That's totally different. I don't know what they do in other countries for bloatware, but Verizon certainly loads up some stinker software here in the US. Tell me, unless you're really into that sort of thing, why would the average shmoe care about Zappos? I certainly don't! And, if I wanted an app for NFL football, I'm perfectly capable of picking one from Google Play, yeah? Same with all the Amazon shtuff. Yeah I get it, advertising helps cover manufacturing costs, and all that jazz. Sure they do it to every new PC from Brand Name X too, but at least you can uninstall it. So rooting is sort of revenge for hogging my limited storage space and then limiting my ability to do anything about it.
And since I'm on this rant anyway, please... PLEASE!!! No more of this "Let's see if we can make our Android look like an iPhone" crap. Or worse, "Windows 8 Phone" crap! - Ewww! That's like taking a Jaguar and trying to make it look like a Ford Pinto... you might manage it, but who the heck would want it?
This rant has been a Public Service Announcement. The thoughts and views expressed herein are not to be considered... period. :silly:
You said it!
I linked to this from my restore where I have a commentary section.
I totally agree. Don't flash ROMs if your going to complain. Its one thing to report to the devs and quite another to ***** about it. And good on ya for the entire rant.
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I really hope the motox stock can be ported.
It would be a big event if he & others did it.
I thank them on each post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2412427
I originally rooted and unlocked my bootloader on this phone because of the screen shake issue that a Motorola introduced in an update if that didn't happen I may not of rooted the phone its stock ROM has such a good layout its no wonder so many complain. I however knew what I was getting into. Rule of thumb to new flashers backups are your friend and don't piss off the developers.
I like stock... de-bloat it and its good to go... just wish I could find something to mod the navi bar... remove the recent apps button replace it with the menu button and change color of it...
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well, the main reason why folks are not as excited about the new ROMs, is b/c there are not any ground-breaking features on the 4.2.2 or 4.3 operating systems. When I got my first android, I had Froyo. Folks were dying to get to Gingerbread in order to vastly increase performance/battery life.
the deal with Jelly Bean, is that the upgrade from stock 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 or 4.3 is minimal at best - and the changes are mostly aesthetics (although, I read that 4.3 has better bluetooth connectivity). but mostly, 4.2.2/4.3 are primarily geared towards tablets.
the race is on now to see what KitKat can bring to current phone users.
in terms of improvements, just as radorix said, these custom ROMs eliminated the shakes that I was getting on 4.1.2. so for me, while that was not a huge deal, it's enough for me to go custom.
personally, I like the tiles layout of 4.2.2 as well as the AOKP customization, so I'll stick with that for now given that my battery life/performance is stock-like.
*claps* You said it. The Razr M has actually been the first Android phone I owned where I've kept the stock ROM. I think it does fine with 4.1.2 atm, and if I really wanted a change I'd probably just theme it.
The only thing that matters to me is stability and speed. I like a fast phone and I like to o/c, push the phone. I like to test things and try to understand its problems rather than build myself because I don't have the time. If I can find the right medium between speed and stability it becomes my dd, naturally. But stock was built for a reason and every now and then I go back to 4.1.2 because I miss some of the features. Like the far left quick settings menu and Circle Clock. Why have to find a work around to add all these features and fixes to a reimagined custom OS that causes more problems when its already working? We wouldn't have anything to work with if we didn't have the source to start at!
Couldn't agree more. I've had 9 different android devices in the past 4 years. Only ones I haven't rooted are my Sony tablet s (original, don't even get me started with their abandonment of this thing, hey let's leave bugs, make a seemingly unlockable boot loader, not share any code, abandon it after realizing all the bugs exist, then support everything we make after it) and my original nexus 7. I too came back to a stock debloated deodexed ROM for the RAZR M.
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JPHoller said:
Couldn't agree more. I've had 9 different android devices in the past 4 years. Only ones I haven't rooted are my Sony tablet s (original, don't even get me started with their abandonment of this thing, hey let's leave bugs, make a seemingly unlockable boot loader, not share any code, abandon it after realizing all the bugs exist, then support everything we make after it) and my original nexus 7. I too came back to a stock debloated deodexed ROM for the RAZR M.
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Lol. Not the only Sammy device they've dropped. Heard of the Galaxy Player 4.2?
Oh and ezknives, you do realize the menu button is completely redundant right? Considering it pops up if needed and isn't even supported/required for Holo apps
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sloosecannon said:
Lol. Not the only Sammy device they've dropped. Heard of the Galaxy Player 4.2?
Oh and ezknives, you do realize the menu button is completely redundant right? Considering it pops up if needed and isn't even supported/required for Holo apps
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Not for me... with-in various apps it does not... when on different ROMs and I removed the multitasking feature and replaced it with a menu key I was able to utilize features that was other wise inaccessible... like deleting messages in Facebook app for instance... that cannot be done without a menu button or opening your browser and requesting the desktop site... I just need my menu key its never there when I need it...and I don't know what halo apps are nor use it I don't believe...
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Not for me... with-in various apps it does not... when on different ROMs and I removed the multitasking feature and replaced it with a menu key I was able to utilize features that was other wise inaccessible... like deleting messages in Facebook app for instance... that cannot be done without a menu button or opening your browser and requesting the desktop site... I just need my menu key its never there when I need it...and I don't know what halo apps are nor use it I don't believe...
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Holo means apps designed for android 4.0+.
It's the ICS+ ui style. There should be a way to access the menu without a dedicated button - either built-in or by telling the system it's a legacy app that needs the settings button to appear
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netizenmt said:
Everyone wants to unlock their bootloader so they can run a custom ROM, the supposed purpose being to improve performance and gain new features. But then, once they get the new ROM on there, they keep posting about all the problems they are having, and how this, that or the other doesn't work as well as stock. After goofing with every, and I mean EVERY ROM available for the Razr M, IMHO there's absolutely no reason to use a custom ROM if you are expecting "like stock" performance. It's fun, it's addicting, it can get crazy sometimes, but don't expect it to ever be "Final". More than likely, it will be abandoned the moment a new phone or Android version comes along, and you'll be left with all those unsolved FCs and "almost works" features left hanging. Sad, really.
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Meh. I disagree. I've been running CM since it went official and I haven't had any complaints. I experience much-better-than-stock performance and battery life, plus it is way more customizable. I love it!
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Meh. I disagree. I've been running CM since it went official and I haven't had any complaints. I experience much-better-than-stock performance and battery life, plus it is way more customizable. I love it!
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I just tried it again. Froze on reboot, wouldn't let me into recovery, same BS as all the 4.3 versions. And I wrote the book, well thread, on how to install it, so yeah I wiped etc.
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i'm enjoying better than stock performance on the stable 4.2.2 branch, and i built a custom kernel for CM10.1 for better performance. I tried the 'stock' life and its boring lol. The custom ROM features and better performance are what makes it worth it in my view. 4.3 will be even better as work is continually being done on it, and it hasn't been out that long. Also, I think we need to give appreciation to the devs for giving us options as far as what we can run on this phone compared to being stuck with only one choice.
CM is getting good. Recently the "display freezing" issue got fixed, also more fixes for cardock audio and wifi. It simply takes a while to get it all done properly (with that what's left is SIM I/O and HDR (works with Moto X camera application)).
@netizenmt: Booting to recovery is not affected by the ROM you have installed, so you screwed up the installation at some point.
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CM is getting good. Recently the "display freezing" issue got fixed, also more fixes for cardock audio and wifi. It simply takes a while to get it all done properly (with that what's left is SIM I/O and HDR (works with Moto X camera application)).
@netizenmt: Booting to recovery is not affected by the ROM you have installed, so you screwed up the installation at some point.
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Would you offer a build for a Bluetooth phone user that has the SD swap working?
One that might quiet this thread?
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I just tried it again. Froze on reboot, wouldn't let me into recovery, same BS as all the 4.3 versions. And I wrote the book, well thread, on how to install it, so yeah I wiped etc.
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There are a few tricks to getting 4.3 installed and running but it will never happen if u just quite and go back to stock before u get it up and running correctly. I had a terrible time getting 4.3 to boot, keyboard forcing close, stability etc but I figured all that out and wouldn't think of going back to stock. The amount and way if partions the internal drive alone will keep me from ever going back to stock.
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stanlalee said:
There are a few tricks to getting 4.3 installed and running but it will never happen if u just quite and go back to stock before u get it up and running correctly. I had a terrible time getting 4.3 to boot, keyboard forcing close, stability etc but I figured all that out and wouldn't think of going back to stock. The amount and way if partions the internal drive alone will keep me from ever going back to stock.
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You actually just made my whole point.
While it's cool you had time, patience, skill and effort to resolve your issues with 4.3, that's not the point of this thread. So do I. The point is, if you think you're going to slap one of these ROMs on and everything is going to work like stock, forget it. If that's what someone expects, they should stick to stock.
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Looks like it's rolling out overseas.
http://gotta-be-mobile.blogspot.com/2014/01/htc-one-android-442-kitkat-update-lands.html?m=1
joeymagnus1 said:
Looks like it's rolling out overseas.
http://gotta-be-mobile.blogspot.com/2014/01/htc-one-android-442-kitkat-update-lands.html?m=1
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The HTC site shows all carriers in the integration phase...after that comes certification...I'm guessing it will still be awhile.
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They delayed the update till February so don't expect anything for a few weeks.
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We've got eclipse 4.4.... what do we need official for... Lol.
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We've got eclipse 4.4.... what do we need official for... Lol.
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Unless HTC killed your fun.
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Don't expect 4.4 anytime soon because of Verizon.
I'd be surprised if they released it before March. They're always missing target dates, especially with Verizon.
Just get VipperOne 4.4kk / 5.5 Sense, everything you could EVER imagine baked in. Best rom for m7vzw hands down. Try it. I've loaded most of the roms available for this phone, and this one blows everything else out of the water.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2590358
ccarr313 said:
Just get VipperOne 4.4kk / 5.5 Sense, everything you could EVER imagine baked in. Best rom for m7vzw hands down. Try it. I've loaded most of the roms available for this phone, and this one blows everything else out of the water.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2590358
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I don't understand why I would want all the extra stuff that is baked into ViperOne. Seeing that long list of "features" looks an aweful lot like bloatware to the uninitiated, like me. Right now I'm running TikTak which is pretty much stock Kit Kat. Would ViperOne suite the casual user, like me, better? Why?
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I don't understand why I would want all the extra stuff that is baked into ViperOne. Seeing that long list of "features" looks an aweful lot like bloatware to the uninitiated, like me. Right now I'm running TikTak which is pretty much stock Kit Kat. Would ViperOne suite the casual user, like me, better? Why?
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Bloatware are apps you do not want. ViperOne allows you to not install any app that is packed with it during the install process.
The extra features you are talking about are all part of one app, Venom Tweaks. Which allows you to customize everything from kernel settings to the color of your notifications, screen layout sizes, really too much to list. But that is all contained inside of one app.
It also allows you to install entire custom themes, through Venom Hub.
There isn't really any bloatware at all added to the Rom, and it allows you to leave out anything you do not want during install. Like I remove HTC stocks, picasa, kid mode etc......all during the install from recovery. I would just recommend trying it if you own an htc one. I've run a crap ton of roms since i got my One, and i swear by it. Leaps and bounds beyond everything else I've run. And the Venom team is constantly updating with new features, and new mods are constantly being added to the Hub. Also comes with VenomSU baked in.
I'm running ViperOne 4.3.0, the newest Philz Touch CWM for m7vzw, and LunarX kernel for tap2wake and cpu tweaks. Love it.
ccarr313 said:
Bloatware are apps you do not want. ViperOne allows you to not install any app that is packed with it during the install process.
The extra features you are talking about are all part of one app, Venom Tweaks. Which allows you to customize everything from kernel settings to the color of your notifications, screen layout sizes, really too much to list. But that is all contained inside of one app.
It also allows you to install entire custom themes, through Venom Hub.
There isn't really any bloatware at all added to the Rom, and it allows you to leave out anything you do not want during install. Like I remove HTC stocks, picasa, kid mode etc......all during the install from recovery. I would just recommend trying it if you own an htc one. I've run a crap ton of roms since i got my One, and i swear by it. Leaps and bounds beyond everything else I've run. And the Venom team is constantly updating with new features, and new mods are constantly being added to the Hub. Also comes with VenomSU baked in.
I'm running ViperOne 4.3.0, the newest Philz Touch CWM for m7vzw, and LunarX kernel for tap2wake and cpu tweaks. Love it.
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Are you still able to use Zoe and the Sense gallery with ViperOne?
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Yes. Both work as it is a sense ROM.
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The HTC site shows all carriers in the integration phase...after that comes certification...I'm guessing it will still be awhile.
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Four major carriers are now in certification stage. Might actually hit deadline this time.
Lets hope..
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It would be unprecedented for Verizon to update at the same time as other carriers. I don't expect our phones to make the Wednesday deadline.
Verizon might be changing though.....They were the first U.S. carrier to put out 4.3 on the GS4
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Verizon might be changing though.....They were the first U.S. carrier to put out 4.3 on the GS4
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And the first to put 4.4 on the Moto X
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Leraeniesh said:
They delayed the update till February so don't expect anything for a few weeks.
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Kitkat 4.4 is now in Finland. I am just installing it.
After all those articles saying this week
Engadget is reporting the update is now a couple of weeks away Certification process is taking longer than expected.
ugh - I'm too much of a noob to be allowed to post url
I have to say - this is one thing Apple got right - skip the carriers. (OK they got many things right - just wish Google was able to follow Apple's footsteps as far as OS updates)
You might be saying "why don't I root and use one of the kitkat ROMS available today" well it's simple. I just got notified by my place of work that rooted phones won't be allowed on the network I have no choice (at least if I want my phone to get corporate mail).
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Engadget is reporting the update is now a couple of weeks away Certification process is taking longer than expected.
ugh - I'm too much of a noob to be allowed to post url
I have to say - this is one thing Apple got right - skip the carriers. (OK they got many things right - just wish Google was able to follow Apple's footsteps as far as OS updates)
You might be saying "why don't I root and use one of the kitkat ROMS available today" well it's simple. I just got notified by my place of work that rooted phones won't be allowed on the network I have no choice (at least if I want my phone to get corporate mail).
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http://www.htc.com/us/go/president-letter/
What a surprise... Not.