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Hey guys,
I'm searching for an Android version that has everything working, i.e. Camera, GPS, WiFi...
I know this was possible with Android 1.6, there were several versions, some had the camera working, some had WiFi working - but none had everything working.
But it proves that it's possible.
Why are people only working on Android 2.x anymore, when there are so many things not working and probably never will?
And why make so many different versions with none of them working 100%? Can people not work together and create ONE version that has everything?
Please, if there is any Android (likely 1.6, cause 2.x seems impossible to get fully working) version that has everything working, direct me to it. If not, why not come together and try it?
If you feel it is this easy, why not do it yourself?
I believe noone has made a fully working distribution yet due to the fact that it is difficult. Add the fact that most of the chefs does this as a hobby, and you might understand why it is hard to get developers to spend a lot of time on it.
My two cents.
-KJ
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Well, if you actually read my post, I said all the necessary stuff is there for Android 1.6. It IS possible.
The problem is just that people can't work together. There have been 1.6 versions with the camera working, and others with WiFi working, and others with GPS working, but none with everything.
But it's clear that it would be possible, if people put the pieces together.
Unfortunately, nobody seems to be working on 1.6 anymore. It's clear that 2.x will NEVER be fully working on the Touch HD, so why do people waste their time on that?
I am sure we could have a fully working Android version. It doesn't have to be the newest one, but at least it would be good for everyday use.
Well camera was never working on Touch HD and stuff you mentioned aren't about Android version. Those hardware issues are mostly linux kernel related and only way to fix them is to write a proper drivers and modules - and that's the tricky part. Simply put: Android version has nothing to do with non-working hardware on our devices.
I remeber I had the camera working... or was that another device? I have too many phones lying around here, but actually I am pretty sure I had the camera working in an older Android version.
shaundalglish said:
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I know this was possible with Android 1.6, there were several versions, some had the camera working, some had WiFi working - but none had everything working.
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hey man, wake up!
You 're just frustrated but you do not propose anything.
Thx for this usefull thread
shaundalglish said:
Well, if you actually read my post, I said all the necessary stuff is there for Android 1.6. It IS possible.
The problem is just that people can't work together. There have been 1.6 versions with the camera working, and others with WiFi working, and others with GPS working, but none with everything.
But it's clear that it would be possible, if people put the pieces together.
Unfortunately, nobody seems to be working on 1.6 anymore. It's clear that 2.x will NEVER be fully working on the Touch HD, so why do people waste their time on that?
I am sure we could have a fully working Android version. It doesn't have to be the newest one, but at least it would be good for everyday use.
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This is a TOTALLY misleading post.
The number of devices, the variation in hardware and memory is quite extensive... yes, somebody MIGHT get the camera working on ONE specific device... this is hardly a version of Android everybody can enjoy.
For the large part most of the developers ARE sharing knowledge, but there are people screaming "why isn't MY device supported, and other saying why are your bothering with old version of Android, and others screaming, where's Froyo???"
XDAndroid's come a long way. But there are only a handful of developers working on it, and they don't have every single phone at their disposal (not to mention every operator variant with slightly different radio code and configuration).
Each week the development takes two steps forward, and one step back... but it's progress. All that you're asking for is more progress.... and the only way you can get that is by contribution the code changes to the dev team.
If you can't do that, then you just have to sit back and wait.
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It's clear that 2.x will NEVER be fully working on the Touch HD, so why do people waste their time on that?
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How is it clear? It's being worked on... perhaps at a pace that's not to YOUR liking, but it's being worked on.
What evidence do you have to suggest it will NEVER be fully working?
It is true that it's proving to be difficult, but it's also true that it's very hard to stay with 1.6 when many new apps stop working with it, or new features NEED 2.x, and all the latest source code will include support for newer devices and 1.6 won't.
The developers aren't working on HD alone, they are working on a release that works on multiple devices. If someone wanted to focus on HD, they'd be welcome to, but nobody is. They are sharing their knowledge for the greater good of all devices.
To be frank, if someone is truly that crazy for Android, then they are fools to be using a WinMo device. They should have bought an Android device.
If I want OSX, I should buy a Mac. The fact that I can run OSX on my PC is nice, but I should expect issues. The same applies to XDAndroid. Expect issues.
TheBrilliantMistake said:
How is it clear? It's being worked on... perhaps at a pace that's not to YOUR liking, but it's being worked on.
What evidence do you have to suggest it will NEVER be fully working?
It is true that it's proving to be difficult, but it's also true that it's very hard to stay with 1.6 when many new apps stop working with it, or new features NEED 2.x, and all the latest source code will include support for newer devices and 1.6 won't.
The developers aren't working on HD alone, they are working on a release that works on multiple devices. If someone wanted to focus on HD, they'd be welcome to, but nobody is. They are sharing their knowledge for the greater good of all devices.
To be frank, if someone is truly that crazy for Android, then they are fools to be using a WinMo device. They should have bought an Android device.
If I want OSX, I should buy a Mac. The fact that I can run OSX on my PC is nice, but I should expect issues. The same applies to XDAndroid. Expect issues.
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Very well said. These people never stop complaining.
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I remeber I had the camera working... or was that another device? I have too many phones lying around here, but actually I am pretty sure I had the camera working in an older Android version.
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Sorry buddy, but you're not recalling right, the camera has never worked on the Touch HD, no matter how old the version was (and GPS support only came recently a few weeks ago).
Camera support & GPS are a kernel feature (simply put, the kernel is all the drivers for the hardware in the devices and the way to properly communicate with them) it is not an android feature (android operates on top and apart of the kernel).
I can't comment on the other devices but I don't recall having a winmo device having his camera supported in android, they have a really hard time implementing camera support in the kernel, so they did go on with the other things such as better stability, speed and battery life...
But if you have the resources, feel free to help, xdandroid team will be happy to welcome another dev.
Becoming a bit of a flame war and I see no end result.
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Hello everyone,
While i'm sure this must be a hard decision for most people, I am currently trying to decide which Rom to go with myself. I see there are about 5 different roms based on Froyo (2.2) and while i've tried reading pages and pages from each Rom post i've found out that what work in one may not work in the other.
So with that said how do you pick a rom that offers everything (if there's even one out yet?)
If i'm not mistaken Fresh has 4G issues and Tether doesnt work (not that tether is an issue but it'll be nice to have)
OMJ has music steaming issues, has working tether but camera is set to 3MP
I also see that most roms remove the Sprint apps (which i'm cool with except for the Navigator).. is there a way to get the Navigator back?
Decisions, Decisions.... Decisions....
The WiFi Tether issue isn't an issue with the rom. It's still a work in progress for full 2.2 support and it's possible to get it running if you flash a different kernel. Unfortunately that kernel has the adverse side effect of making the camera 3MP. Keep checking the wifi tether google code page to see when they release a fully working version for 2.2.
fresh has never had 4g issues.
4g confirmed working on all froyo betas and releases.
I can only comment on fresh bc that's the one I've used. I have no issues with 4g and tethering works great with netarchys 3.7.6c kernel although the back camera drops to 3mp which I'm fine with..also, fresh takes out the Sprint and some HTC apps but leaves them in a folder on your SD card in case you want to install any like navigation.
I'm sure you can adjust any of the roms to your liking, just play with them
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I like Fresh's rom for HTC Sense. I am currently still running the CM6 nightlies tho. No 4G in my area so not a big deal for me.
WillJV said:
Hello everyone,
While i'm sure this must be a hard decision for most people, I am currently trying to decide which Rom to go with myself. I see there are about 5 different roms based on Froyo (2.2) and while i've tried reading pages and pages from each Rom post i've found out that what work in one may not work in the other.
So with that said how do you pick a rom that offers everything (if there's even one out yet?)
If i'm not mistaken Fresh has 4G issues and Tether doesnt work (not that tether is an issue but it'll be nice to have)
OMJ has music steaming issues, has working tether but camera is set to 3MP
I also see that most roms remove the Sprint apps (which i'm cool with except for the Navigator).. is there a way to get the Navigator back?
Decisions, Decisions.... Decisions....
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This thread really belongs in the Q&A, as it has nothing to do with development.
However...
My best advice would be read through the threads for the respective roms, then try them out. Trying them out will give you the best information as far as what that rom has and what it doesn't have. but keep in mind, these roms aren't really made for you, they are just provided so you can use them if you want. They are ultimately made for the developers, and have their personal preferences built in.
If you want the sprint apps, I would suggest flashing fresh at least once. Although I'm not sure if he does it anymore, he use to put all the removed apps into /sdcard/fresh-removed-apks and you could reinstall them from there, on any rom.
It's all about one's personal choice when it comes to custom roms. They are all made possible and available by the wonderful devs. so you can flash as many of the roms you like. Once you see one that works good for you then go with it, that's what it all comes down to.
Nibert, Thanks i'll keep checking the post you mentioned.
Fazzmanic, not that i know for a fact that FRESH has issues with 4G. The only reason i said that is because there are at least 2 post in the ROM's thread from users who reported 4G not working... that's all.
ervman1, Does Fresh have that kernel you mentioned or you have to install that kernel after flashing the rom with Fresh?
bdelbenes, I like the HTC Sense myself. I've tried Open Home and Launcher Pro and they're cool yet I guess i used Sense at the beginning of me getting the phone so i got used to it.
Dougie2187, sorry for posting it on the wrong section but thanks to the Moderator who moved it to the correct forum. I have yet to flash my rom so i'm still on the factory 2.1 rom (rooted)... I guess i will do like most of you do and try one by one (well at least a few) till i find one that i like. I just wanted to make one choice and go with that instead of flashing my phone everyday LOL
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Nibert, Thanks i'll keep checking the post you mentioned.
Fazzmanic, not that i know for a fact that FRESH has issues with 4G. The only reason i said that is because there are at least 2 post in the ROM's thread from users who reported 4G not working... that's all.
ervman1, Does Fresh have that kernel you mentioned or you have to install that kernel after flashing the rom with Fresh?
bdelbenes, I like the HTC Sense myself. I've tried Open Home and Launcher Pro and they're cool yet I guess i used Sense at the beginning of me getting the phone so i got used to it.
Dougie2187, sorry for posting it on the wrong section but thanks to the Moderator who moved it to the correct forum. I have yet to flash my rom so i'm still on the factory 2.1 rom (rooted)... I guess i will do like most of you do and try one by one (well at least a few) till i find one that i like. I just wanted to make one choice and go with that instead of flashing my phone everyday LOL
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Nandroid backups help make this process a lot easier. Fresh was my rom of choice for a while, Bugless Beast is really good as well but isn't up to date. Damage Control is really good too. But I've been using Cyanogen because it's AOSP.
It all ends up being personal preference, but those are some I would try out. Basically, flash one, set it up 100% and back it up. Then use it for a day or so, and try another one. And continue this until you find one you like.
on fresh 0.53 and 1.01 i had a 4g reconnection issue that i couldn't seem to shake even after doing the posted fix. it all seems to be sorted out with 3.whatever. avalaunch is another rom i can confirm that all the relevent bits work on.
froyo roms in general have taken a giant step forward since the OTA. i'd recommend downloading titanium backup and getting yourself the donated version then just try out whatever looks interesting. titanium makes the process a lot less painful since you can restore all your apps with their data in a batch process.
hi! like many of you i have been waiting for a clean aosp rom and it looks like we get some first taste of the forbidden fruit there. i found the following in the vibrant forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=757000
remember it's for the vibrant and it's alpha (no radio & other things) but i guess it should work for the i9000 as well. it's just a start but finally things are happening . i will give it a try shortly
thanks to eugene, barak and possible others i don't know of!
just flashed it and played a little bit and here is my report:
* wlan works but is slower than stock
* calling works but 3g-data doesn't
* camera doesn't work
i didn't test:
* bluetooth
* gps
everything else seems to work and is quite smooth!
quadrant-score: 859, 875, 845
very nice work for an alpha version! i'm quite excited for what's to come
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* after sync and reboot wlan seems to be as fast as normal...maybe my isp f***** up (again).
* after moving /data/data to /dbdata/data (dbdata is not used by this rom) this thing is FLYING!
* everything seems stable so far
i think i will keep this for now even if data is not working. awesome experience to have stock android (again)!
Very nice to see a asop on the way. Lets hope some I9000 dev have the time to adapt this for galaxy
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Very nice to see a asop on the way. Lets hope some I9000 dev have the time to adapt this for galaxy
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after playing around with this i think there won't be a lot we have to change! just the kernel and the modules (i still use the JM2 kernel/zImage) and that's easy to adapt...
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after playing around with this i think there won't be a lot we have to change! just the kernel and the modules (i still use the JM2 kernel/zImage) and that's easy to adapt...
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How did you install this asop rom?
I guess some files mods are needed? Build.prop etc?
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How did you install this asop rom?
I guess some files mods are needed? Build.prop etc?
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nope. just flash the zip with clockwork over an existing firmware (in my case JM2). first boot will take a littel longer because of odex-ing.
Great to see some work on AOSP for the Galaxy S series. I've been surprised that no-one's done anything on it before, but confident that if the right people turned their minds to it they'd be able to get it running (even if all the drivers aren't sorted at first).
I don't really have a problem with TouchWiz, considering that I'm actually using LauncherPro and like the notification bar toggles etc. However, AOSP builds make me confident we'll see Gingerbread (and beyond?) because we won't have to depend on Samsung.
Wow, this is good news! I'm looking forward to having a stock Android. Although I want to try Sense more!
Im guessing once this becomes more stable, Sense is not far off?
wow, very good news.... when 3g-data will be fixed, surely i'll try this, even if i like touchwiz, i think that the sgs will be smoother without it....
hoping also in a AOSP FROYO ROM
report after ~17h use:
* gps doesn't work
* wlan works well and fast (i had 18-19mbit before with speedtest.net, same as my pc) but the driver seems to have some stability problems when it's idle for some time...
* short radio problem before, restart fixed it so radio probably is a little instable in the long run as well
quadrant scores of ~950 but linpack of only ~6.5MFLOPS? strange! everything is running very very fast and responsive (only fix aplied is: moved /data/data on /dbdata/data) and it boots faster. both definitely better than stock!
i am wondering why almost nobody seems to be interested in this. i had the feeling that more people wanted an aosp rom since we had a thread about that almost ever 2-3 days ...
I tried this asop for few hours: slower than best sgs rom's , no data connection, wifi slow, some app errors. Still not good enough for daily use but a very promising start.
Sounds really great, but I'm on JP3 right now and it seems to have less bugs than this :-/
This is only an alpha. I'll be more inclined to test when its in beta, as will many others I think. Especially as there are some troubles with core drivers.
Does this already run on a different file system (instead of RFS)? If not, will it be possible in the future to do so?
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Does this already run on a different file system (instead of RFS)? If not, will it be possible in the future to do so?
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no, it does not repartition anything.
yes, if you repartition the nand and have a kernel with e.g. yaffs2 support.
should both be possible atm with some effort...
i'm really interested,although Wiz notification bar is handy (but i could manage with standard power control widget)...i'm not able to program or do other too technical stuff,but i'd be happy to check for bugs (when it'll become a little more usable,i'm on h3g and i absolutely need 3g )
yeah, they are working on it and will soon release the source on github. i use it for almost 2 days now and except the missing data it's working fine for me. really fast and sleek. i guess that we will soon have a beta version with most of the stuff working....i think it's just amazing that this rom is only about half the size of the samsung firmware even with gapps!
although i like stock android more 2 things i already miss are the notification bar and the movie player which can play so many more formats than the stock one, but thats a small price to pay.
Can't the .apk's be ripped and installed anyway? I'm looking forward to try this when data is working!
Is this 2.1 or 2.2?
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Can't the .apk's be ripped and installed anyway? I'm looking forward to try this when data is working!
Is this 2.1 or 2.2?
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it's 2.1
hm. the apps could probably be ported but it would be more complicated than installing the apk. they rely on libraries, the custom ui stuff and probably other apps like content providers etc. the only thing i REALLY want is the movie player! it's just very comfortable to just copy some movies/series onto the device before a train ride without the need to transcode
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i am wondering why almost nobody seems to be interested in this. i had the feeling that more people wanted an aosp rom since we had a thread about that almost ever 2-3 days ...
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Interested, yea. As in "interesting to follow and see if it becomes functional." At the moment it's an alpha with no 3g data, wifi issues, bluetooth issues, no camera, and no GPS.
What more do you expect with it in its current state? Sheesh.
So I have this problem where when I am running Cyanogen Mod (currently 128 of ICS) on an R800x and the data will randomly just stop working, and the only way to fix it is to reboot the phone. Everything else appears to be working perfectly. I am running the latest firmware from that stickied thread in the developer's section. Any ideas why this is happening and how i can fix it? Btw as far as I can tell it's only the data that stops working, not sending/receiving calls/texts or wifi.
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So I have this problem where when I am running Cyanogen Mod (currently 128 of ICS) on an R800x and the data will randomly just stop working, and the only way to fix it is to reboot the phone. Everything else appears to be working perfectly. I am running the latest firmware from that stickied thread in the developer's section. Any ideas why this is happening and how i can fix it? Btw as far as I can tell it's only the data that stops working, not sending/receiving calls/texts or wifi.
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Yeah, It's like that with all us cdma users. I've brought it up and fxp doesn't even acknowledge it. All you need to do is turn the mobile data off then on again. It's annoying, but until a decent dev looks into it it's the only workaround
ive tried putting it into airplane mode, and taking it back out, but that doesn't fix the problem. how do you do it?
and is there a way we can politely point this out to them, without acting completely entitled? like if its effecting all cdma users that's a pretty large group.
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ive tried putting it into airplane mode, and taking it back out, but that doesn't fix the problem. how do you do it?
and is there a way we can politely point this out to them, without acting completely entitled? like if its effecting all cdma users that's a pretty large group.
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Well nobody on the fxp team has an r800x, I think two of them have gsm versions. So they can't test it out, and with my history with fxp himself he doesn't seem to really care about cdma at all (doesn't least show he does). People have mentioned it before and nothing comes from it. So it's a lack of caring about our type of issues, they don't have time, or it's beyond their comprehension. Your best bet is to mention it to Pax, since he does a lot of things for cdma. Here's a link to his profile
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4234200
Here is Keiran's profile also (he's on the fxp team)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4344506
Oh, and the way I do it is: setttings>more..>mobile networks> Check data enabled off (wait 5sec) then check it back on. If that doesn't help then you can try a fresh install to see if it does anything
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Well nobody on the fxp team has an r800x, I think two of them have gsm versions. So they can't test it out, and with my history with fxp himself he doesn't seem to really care about cdma at all (doesn't least show he does). People have mentioned it before and nothing comes from it. So it's a lack of caring about our type of issues, they don't have time, or it's beyond their comprehension. Your best bet is to mention it to Pax, since he does a lot of things for cdma. Here's a link to his profile
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4234200
Here is Keiran's profile also (he's on the fxp team)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4344506
Oh, and the way I do it is: setttings>more..>mobile networks> Check data enabled off (wait 5sec) then check it back on. If that doesn't help then you can try a fresh install to see if it does anything
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thanks for the quick fix. worst case scenario that isn't too inconvenient of a fix. i tried sending both of them a polite message, and we'll see if anything comes of it, though probably not.
Hey,
Although I'm not on FXP team anymore (working with AOKP now <3 unicorns haha) I looked into this issue once.
Any AOSP based ROM (CM, AOKP) for zeus and zeusc use prebuilt radio interface layer libraries, which is a problem, because the ones we are using in CM9 are gingerbread, not made for ICS.
I tried reverse engineering it once but I seriously need to work more on that kinda stuff
I'll tell jerpelea (FXP) of this issue and what he wants to do about it, its not really in my power now. Although if I do find a fix then I will be sure to push it to gerrit, regardless of FXP's opinion on the issue.
J is the only one I know with an R800x (he has whole 2011 line + S + P + x10)
Hope I could be of any help,
Keiran
KeiranFTW said:
Hey,
Although I'm not on FXP team anymore (working with AOKP now <3 unicorns haha) I looked into this issue once.
Any AOSP based ROM (CM, AOKP) for zeus and zeusc use prebuilt radio interface layer libraries, which is a problem, because the ones we are using in CM9 are gingerbread, not made for ICS.
I tried reverse engineering it once but I seriously need to work more on that kinda stuff
I'll tell jerpelea (FXP) of this issue and what he wants to do about it, its not really in my power now. Although if I do find a fix then I will be sure to push it to gerrit, regardless of FXP's opinion on the issue.
J is the only one I know with an R800x (he has whole 2011 line + S + P + x10)
Hope I could be of any help,
Keiran
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Ah ok I can see the issue now, I honestly never even considered that. I deved on gb for many years and I'm still not use to ics yet lol. I seriously thank you for responding. From what I can tell gsm users don't have this issue (maybe they do but the ones I've talked to don't) and even though it's not major to me it'd be nice to be on the same level you know? Since you're on aokp I may jump onto that soon, but thanks again Keiran, I hope you stick with developing you got a knack for it that most people don't.
i am a super omega ultimate noob lv. -99. i am wondering how to check on the latest status of the GSIII stable roms. i would like to know if/when CM will get the roms first or if xda gets them first. i like stable roms because i am a noob. my noobness knows no bounds. please help. i do dontate. thank you.
Right now, CM10 nightly 25 is working great
26 has exhibited a few irritating bugs but I haven't had any problems with nightly 25
Give it a run, it's phenomenal IMO
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i am a super omega ultimate noob lv. -99. i am wondering how to check on the latest status of the GSIII stable roms. i would like to know if/when CM will get the roms first or if xda gets them first. i like stable roms because i am a noob. my noobness knows no bounds. please help. i do dontate. thank you.
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Xda is just an outlet where people choose to post roms.
To check on the latest status of roms, you need to open the threads and read the OP. You also need to spend at least ten minutes reading each thread, That will tell you how stable each rom is and what kind of results people are having.
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Is there a place for specific roms that we can see a list of all known bugs? I've been trying to check on, for example, CM10, paranoid android, and AOKP in particular and havent been able to find any bug trackers at all. Without knowing what bugs there are and what will/wont affect me, I'm too hesitant to try any of the roms and have been suffering through t-mobile's dual "update ready" and "update needed" constant un-clearable notifications. I cant even apply the stock updates because I debloated and applying the update fails because I dont have the apps that the update is attempting to update. Updating would involve doing a full factory reset back to stock and THEN updating, which means i'm probably better off simply waiting for samsung's official JB update to roll out in the first place
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Is there a place for specific roms that we can see a list of all known bugs? I've been trying to check on, for example, CM10, paranoid android, and AOKP in particular and havent been able to find any bug trackers at all. Without knowing what bugs there are and what will/wont affect me, I'm too hesitant to try any of the roms and have been suffering through t-mobile's dual "update ready" and "update needed" constant un-clearable notifications. I cant even apply the stock updates because I debloated and applying the update fails because I dont have the apps that the update is attempting to update. Updating would involve doing a full factory reset back to stock and THEN updating, which means i'm probably better off simply waiting for samsung's official JB update to roll out in the first place
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Actually that would be a great idea. It would help out the entire community.
Right now the way things exist, you pretty much have to read through an entire rom thread to determine the benefits/bugs of any given rom.
You could, for example, start a list for any particular rom.. read the entire thread, then make your own thread detailing current known bugs and post it in the same forum. Then the OP of the rom thread could post your link in the first post making it easy for everyone to find.
That would serve two purposes - you would learn the information you're seeking and also become an instantly appreciated contributor to the site.
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I'm surprised the rom developers dont already have a system in place, though. The scope of the projects are presumably gargantuan collaborative works. i kind of assumed that they must have some sort of a bug tracking thing that they use between them. That bug tracking thing is what i've been venturing to find. There are a ton of user-specific bugs that I have no problem digging through the forums and figuring out myself, but what i'd love to see with roms is a list of "this is what we know isnt working yet. dont talk to us about this. we are working on it." or at the very least, "when you flash this rom, if you would like to help, run this command and upload the output HERE so we can fix some bugs we know about".
I'm coming from a linux world and it is very disconcerting to me to flash a rom, encounter a bug/error, and not be able to look at any sort of an error message or do anything to fix the problem except reboot/wipe/reflash and hope for the best. thats a very windows-y mentality to the whole thing, and i feel like if we're running linux on the phones we should be able to get a bit more involved in fixing our own problems a bit better too.
I guess what i'm trying to say is, i'd like to help and i have no clue where to even begin. with archlinux theres a beginners guide but with these roms its more of a "watch this youtube video and follow this tutorial but god help you if anyone thinks you are complaining about what people are doing for you for FREE".
EDIT: I found CM10's issue tracker, but there isnt anything specific for the GS3 there. The flicker and picasa sync issues arent even mentioned. Obviously Paranoid Android and Kang will have the same bugs as CM10, but im assuming that they'll have their own bugs introduced after they add in their own features and such.
ok.
ingenious247 said:
Right now, CM10 nightly 25 is working great
26 has exhibited a few irritating bugs but I haven't had any problems with nightly 25
Give it a run, it's phenomenal IMO
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thanks! will it be on the CM website or here?
o-k said:
thanks! will it be on the CM website or here?
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Two things - one, if you're going to do a lot of flashing, and especially with CM10, you will want to install ROM Manager from the Google Play Store. It will make managing your updates/downloads easier
Two, there is a dedicated thread to CM10 in the "T-Mobile Galaxy S III Original Android Development" forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778217
Read a lot first - before you do anything.. unless you are a very experienced user.
If you have specific questions I will be happy to help
i have a question
ingenious247 said:
Two things - one, if you're going to do a lot of flashing, and especially with CM10, you will want to install ROM Manager from the Google Play Store. It will make managing your updates/downloads easier
Two, there is a dedicated thread to CM10 in the "T-Mobile Galaxy S III Original Android Development" forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778217
Read a lot first - before you do anything.. unless you are a very experienced user.
If you have specific questions I will be happy to help
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i've downloaded the CWM pro and the TB pro. i was wondering what exact ROMS i can use. There is also the difficulty of understanding which rom is exactly which. Is there a way to view the Change log? i'm a super noob. i'm really sorry.
Changelogs won't do you much good.
I recommend flashing everything through CWM (make sure you have 6.0.1.2 Touch - in my signature if not). I wouldn't use ROM Manager at all. Having automated tools is great, but learning how to do it yourself is even better. Plus, if you break something, knowning what you are doing makes it easier to fix. Automated tools hurt more than they help.
As for roms, your options pretty much are as follows:
CyanogenMod: AOSP, the closest thing we have to the stock Google firmware.
AOKP: Pretty much CyanogenMod with some extra options. Nothing extraordinary about those extra options, just some nice things like center clock, swagger toggles, and unicorns.
MIUI: iPhone look for Android.
ParanoidAndroid: Scalable - for tablets (imo).
Then you have the neverending amount of customized stock (TouchWiz) roms.
They are all under constant development. If you want "stable", stay on your stock firmware. All of the roms listed above are stable enough to use as a daily driver. They all have threads in the two Dev forums. But if you don't know what to pick, use CyanogenMod.
I still think ROM Manager is a great tool, it's how I started years ago and I still managed to learn what I needed to over time flashing manually
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