Does anyone know of a good (doesn't have to be OEM) data/charging cable that will work with the 10.1 tab? I saw a few non-OEM ones on Amazon but the reviews say they don't work (one person says it won't charge, another says it charges but won't do data). I guess I'm willing to pay for an OEM cable if someone can tell me which ones are compatible with the 10.1. Samsung live chat says they can't provide this info because the device is not officially released yet. Didn't seem like they were simply dumb or unwilling, just that support folks don't have the info/training/specs yet.
The 10.1v seems to need at least 2A output to charge and the only 2A output charger mains to USB adaptor I have is the one that came with it.
Some in Australia have tested the standard cable with third party 2A output chargers with no luck. Others say that their Samsung branded chargers from the original Galaxy Tab work fine.
I bought a 75cm retractable third party cable (labelled as working for the original Galaxy Tab) and it works for both data and charging on my 10.1v. I'm going to try my luck and buy a 3m third party cable as the 1m one provided by Samsung is simply too short to be practical for me.
Oh and the 10.1v, like the iPad (and original Galaxy Tab), will not charge over USB from most PCs.
They do charge from powered USB (1amp) just veeeery sloooowly
From a non-powered (500 milliamp) usb port, you're probably draining it quicker than it is charging
The original Galaxy Tab was also 2amp
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Hi, I have just recieved my TP2 and was reading the manual when I noticed that it stated "Only the AC adapter and cable provided with your device must be used to charge the battery". However I have two USB car chargers and two further AC usb ac chargers from previous phones (a MPX200 and a HTC 730) and several mini USB cables (standard not HTC custom ones). Is it safe to use any usb charger or cable, and the manual is just being pedantic or is there a good reason to only use the supplied charger/cable.
Thanks
Tom
I sometimes don't use the usb cable that comes with it. I use my others usb cable to charge it too. well as long as you checked the voltage before you charge. Like the car usb charger, I guess pretty much standard, as long as it is a 12volt :> Even at home I use different usb cable too.
In general it should be fine. Those warnings are always present, just like the comment to always use the maker's batteries. This is simply because
1. They want to make more money and they will if you buy original products from the phone manufacturer.
2. In the case of warranties, if you used a cheap charger with a defect, they are not responsible for the consequences should something go wrong. If you only use their cables and chargers, they can't really say it was your fault for using a knockoff/generic charger.
A friend of mine even uses his Blackberry charger to charge his Touch HD
When in doubt, check the output of the charger you are using: a standard HTC charger churns out 5V, 1A
USB cables are pretty standard so there isn't a big difference - probably except in build quality of the eletrical contacts and the width of the jack - I have one cable that cannot be inserted into my TP2 without a bit more force.
My TP2 Verizon (CDMA) is on the way. I use an "IGO" car charger and have tips for several phones and IPOD Classic. Interesting that most of my mini usb phones use the "a32" tip and the TP2 is listed as using an "A53" tip. May have a circuit for when fully charged. Both are mini USB.
I say an advertisement for an AC wall charger that says charges A"" usb devices. You plug the USB cord into it. Now why would that be safe for an IPOD, TP2, Motorola..... but not DC current????
Maybe they just lie!
The voltage is not an issue, al usb chargers deliver close to 5V but some deliver low current and the HTC phones prefer >500mA but even so less than this will just mean a longer charge time.
HTC recommend you use their cables/chargers as a safety measure because they use a non-standard connector with one flat side for their headset.
Two things can happen using a standard mini usb in this socket if you are not carefull.
a, A standard connector puts extra stress on the socket due to movement and can cause damage. (see prev device threads on Poss mini usb failure)
b, Some device specific usb chargers can have plug cross-connections to denote charger or data cable recognition and can subject data lines to constant 5V (not usualy a problem)
Basically they are issuing a disclaimer for the non-standard mini usb and trying to sell extra acc's at the same time.
I picked up one of these chargers:
http://www.macally.com/EN/Product/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=326
which, in principle, should charge the Tab. It does charge it but it also does some strange things while plugged in:
1. Starts MTP USB mode
2. Completely messes up digitizer - I've installed TouchScreenTune and in the test area I can see when I touch, sometimes the perceived touch seems to rapidly cross the entire vertical area and in regular use it will activate the status bar when I touch anywhere.
I exchanged it for this one:
http://www.macally.com/EN/Product/ipod4show.asp?ArticleID=391
It doesn't have as high a wattage output but still higher than a standard USB charger so should charge faster.
I still get:
1. MTP USB mode
2. not quite as messed up digitizer - seems to be okay in normal use but when I test it in TouchScreenTune I can see that the perceived touch is very jittery. It's now jittery only to a small amount of error so it's usable, but something is going on.
I've also found the tablet completely non-responsive to touch a couple of times today (not plugged in) and eventually it comes back but behaves very slowly until I reboot. I don't know if this has anything to do with the charger or just a coincidence.
I'm concerned with the behaviour of the digitizer that these chargers are doing something bad to my tablet. These behaviours don't occur when I use the official charger. I was hoping to get something with multiple charging ports so I have less to carry and plug in when I travel.
Should I be concerned about use this charger? If so, other than the official Samsung charger, does anyone know of a compatible multi-port charger?
Thanks!
You might be looking at different effects caused by different things.
1) There are two different kinds of USB cables for the Galaxy Tab 10.1: a data cable and a charger cable. These are slightly different. Using a data cable will still allow the Tab to charge, but probably slower. But this can cause the MTP USB mode to kick in (but this also depends on the charger)
2) Some chargers go way above the normal 5 Volt. With most devices that is not a very big problem. But capacitive touch screens are very sensitive to that. That's most probably what you notive. I see the same if I use some cheaper chargers.
3) I don't think your touch screen is damaged by the use of these chargers. If that would be the case, it would probably malfunction all of the time and not occasionally. Chances are a lot higher that you installed some new software or widget that is behaving badly.
USB chargers designed for apple devices in principle will not supply more then 0.5A to non-apple devices.
Apple uses a special technique to signal to the USB charger to supply more power, while non-apple devices uses a different technique. And unfortunately all the charger manufacturers only seem to consider Apple.
So all those chargers proclaiming 2.1A that you can find on Amazon or eBay are all designed for Apple devices. And don't believe when it says on Amazon or eBay that Android devices are supported. Read the reviews and you will typically find someone with charging problems with a non-apple device.
USB chargers are basically all the same except for the amperage that they put out. The stock GTab will not charge very well unless the amperage is around 2A. If you root, you can install a tweak that allows the device to charge with any amperage but with the typical .5A charger it will take a lot longer than with a 2A version.
I use the charging pucks for my iPhone and my wife's iPad interchangeably for those devices and my GTab. They all work fine. The iPad puck puts out about 2A and is about the same as the one that ships with the GTab. Since the GTab version is on my desk, I also use it to charge a bunch of other USB devices such as my hands free car speaker and some wireless headphones. I just plug the appropriate cable into the puck. I have not experienced any problems and suspect that I could use my wife's iPad puck the same way. (I have not yet tried this).
I just ordered a couple dual 2A USB car chargers that allow two USB cables to be plugged in, each getting 2.1A. From what I have been able to discover, these devices will charge just about anything as long as the charging cable has a standard USB connector. They come from China on eBay for less than $3 ea.
I will follow up this post with a review when they arrive.
Bob
USB chargers are not all the same.
"Modern" Adapters that implement the USB Battery Charging Spec, short the middle two data wires (D- and D+), the device can use that to detect that it can draw up to 1.5A (instead of the 0.5A that you get from a regular port).
Apple instead using a different (non-standard) scheme where they communicate to the power supply using voltages, and where different voltages represent different Amperage (I don't know the exact details).
So power supplies sold for Apple devices, as far as I have seen, do not short the data wires and as such a non-Apple device will not draw more then 0.5A
*edit*
Just to add to this, because apple devices communicates with the charger over the two data wires using voltages, while devices that implement the USB Battery Charging Spec require the data lines to be shorted, the two implementations are incompatible.
What you could probably do, is crack open a 2A apple compatible charger and just short the D- and D+ and have a charger that will charge non-apple devices up to 1.5A. And it should also be possible to put a switch on the charger to switch between Standard and Apple charging mode. But if you mess up, don't come and complain to me!
Here is a nice video on how the apple charging works for the iPhone on youtube. But unfortunately this crap forum software won't allow me to post outside links.
Just do a google search for "reverse engineering apple charger"
I made some usb adapters that plug between any usb port and galaxy tab 7.0 plus usb
I made some usb adapters that plug between any usb port and your samsung galaxy tab 7.0 plus usb connector that allows charging from any usb port. I think it's the same for any galaxy tablet/phone. This way you can charge from any pc, or generic wall charger, any car charger, etc. If you're interested in one let me know. I can list them on ebay or some other site.
See pictures, nothing fancy but they work perfect with any charger and or usb port
Pic 1 is adapter
Pic 2 is adapter plugged into portable 12000mAh battery charger made for apple products
Pic 3 I added another adapter I made in between to measure amperage
Pic 4 is screen shot showing "AC" not "USB" and little batter icon without RED "X"
Hi,
I'm in deep sh*t, I lost a part of my luggage, where all the chargers for my phones and my laptop and the data cable for my SGS2...
In order to save on buying both a charger and a data cable (as on SGS2, they are separate), I'd like to ask, whether I could buy an
SGS4 charger ? Would it not do any harm to my batter on the long haul ? I know that the SGS4 charger is made of a USB data cable,
which is then plugged just in a socket connector...
Thanks!
darkman088 said:
Hi,
I'm in deep sh*t, I lost a part of my luggage, where all the chargers for my phones and my laptop and the data cable for my SGS2...
In order to save on buying both a charger and a data cable (as on SGS2, they are separate), I'd like to ask, whether I could buy an
SGS4 charger ? Would it not do any harm to my batter on the long haul ? I know that the SGS4 charger is made of a USB data cable,
which is then plugged just in a socket connector...
Thanks!
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my understanding is that so long as the output voltage is the same (5.0V) and the max output current on the charger is rated 0.7A (or above), you should be in good shape. I even occasionally use my ipad usb charger + usb data cable to charge my s2.
Yea most USB chargers should be fine. Heck, I'm using a $7 generic one I got from a local store because mine always break and it works fine.
I agree with Bigtonyman, using most microUSB charger is fine. Only output voltage must be 5V
I am charging daily my SII with: original charger 700mA (home), Nokia charger 950mA (parents) and occasionaly with china car lighter charger 1000mA, and from computer USB port.
I have my original battery 1,5 year old, and the battery time is similar to when it was new.
Could anyone please debunk this "myth", or question please?
Is it true that nowadays most US-based (Powergen seems to be a good brand nowadays) USB Wall chargers are able to accept both 110-220V inputs, and output real 2.1A (or more) outputs (sometimes split among usb sockets), and therefore, be able to use them internationally, to let's say, Argentina?
PS: The actual quality of the USB cable itself is important as well, since so many unknown brands of those cables out there are so cheap for a reason, they can't transfer that charge well, or even damage your device (learned the hard way).
I plan on taking a SAMSUNG Galaxy Note Pro 12.2's, and a Nexus 5 for work, and it's incredible the amount of fake Chinese copies of wall chargers, very outdated wall chargers at premium prices, and lack of information regarding their real outputs in South America that I'm really scared to try any of them
It's OK.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HJJPYXS
I have tested it 2 weeks.
It's OK. and the price is good.
Thank you. I have opted for a more popular brand (Anker), and this product that accepts 110V-240V.
http://www.amazon.com/Family-Sized-...d=1392221895&sr=8-5&keywords=usb+wall+charger
Hopefully it works :s
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Since most third party chargers don't work anymore with the KitKat update, did anyone try an external battery?
All chargers works, just depends on cable and not chargers or kitkat. You get faster(slwoer charging depends on charger and quality of the cable.
For u question, I used Trent 11000 mah external battery pack, 5V 1Amp and with 3rd part usb cable, that are only for charging, without "data pins". It charging at 500 mah when screen is on, screen off at 930-980 mah and working as normal.
I dont know where u get that kitkat have anything to do with 3rd part chargers doesnt works.
dt33 said:
All chargers works, just depends on cable and not chargers or kitkat. You get faster(slwoer charging depends on charger and quality of the cable.
For u question, I used Trent 11000 mah external battery pack, 5V 1Amp and with 3rd part usb cable, that are only for charging, without "data pins". It charging at 500 mah when screen is on, screen off at 930-980 mah and working as normal.
I dont know where u get that kitkat have anything to do with 3rd part chargers doesnt works.
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Well my third party chargers stop charging when the screen turns off. Even if I use the USB cable that came with the Note. However, old chargers of HTC or Motorola phones do work with any USB cable. And I have read this from several other users as well.
I'm on stock 4.4.2 with stock recovery. What recovery/kernel/ROM do you use?
I only use third party chargers and cables and have never had a problem.
Razorless said:
Well my third party chargers stop charging when the screen turns off. Even if I use the USB cable that came with the Note. However, old chargers of HTC or Motorola phones do work with any USB cable. And I have read this from several other users as well.
I'm on stock 4.4.2 with stock recovery. What recovery/kernel/ROM do you use?
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The problem is Samsungs OEMs usb cable. I found it kinda weird, probably Samsungs have some kinda "handshake" with data pins and I got few of them from old Note 1/2/2014 and somehow it doesnt charge mine old Note 2 anylonger.
I got 4 of Samsunsg OEMs USB cables that comes along with Note 1/2/2014/EED100 (Desktop chagerstand) and I dont know anylonger which one is for each device. If I use wrong Samsungs usb cable, it charge mine Note 2 very slow, battery also drops while charging and I got to pick right usb cable for it to charge normal.
Now I just use this usb cable to charge mine Note 2014, too lazy to swap cable until find correct one and it works fine with any charger.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PortaPow-Hi...ories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item4ac6919243
Mine Note 2014 is rooted with stock recovery/kernel (4.4.2 HK version)
TabGuy said:
I only use third party chargers and cables and have never had a problem.
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That's really intersting. Are you on stock ROM?
dt33 said:
The problem is Samsungs OEMs usb cable....
Mine Note 2014 is rooted with stock recovery/kernel (4.4.2 HK version)
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I tried using the Note charger with different USB cables and it works. Using third party chargers with Note cable does not work, but using HTC/Motorola chargers with any cable does. So I think the problem is with the charger, not the cable. Are you sure you used the Note charger with diferent cables and it didn't work?
Using a 1.0A charger charges the device obviuosly slower but the third party chargers (also 1.0A) stop when the screen is off or the device is powered down.
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That's really intersting. Are you on stock ROM?
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Yes
I use a limeade 16000mah battery and have never had a problem with it not charging.
Alright, I'm now officially out of ideas why this only affects some devices. Would you mind telling me what model you have?
Mine is a 605 LTE
Razorless said:
Alright, I'm now officially out of ideas why this only affects some devices. Would you mind telling me what model you have?
Mine is a 605 LTE
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SM-P600
Might be it's a bug in the 605 ROM/kernel. Or maybe related to the snapdragon 800 chip. Maybe Samsung screwed up some drivers, intentionally or not.
If anyone is having charge issues, change your cables. There's nothing special about a "Samsung" cable, but there's a lot of cheap cables out there that have enough voltage drop on them that they won't allow adequate charging. Also, make sure your charger is doing "AC" charging, not "USB" charging- the Note won't draw more than 500mA from USB charging and you may either experience slow charging or none at all if you're using it.
I'm running a P607T (US T-Mobile) model with the German P605 ROM (which should rule out "locale" differences), and my Note charges from any third-party charger I have and/or my Gorilla Gadgets charger battery just fine, whether screen is on or off.
Like I said before, my third party charger stops charging when the screen turns off, even if I use the cable that came with the Note. In settings under battery it says "charging - AC" but still.
It may very well be that these chargers are too "cheap".
The Samsung cable misses one of the two ground connectors. This method was used for devices with mini (!) usb to put them either in power or data transfer mode, depending on the cable used.
However, the Note don't care, I charge it with a 5pin-cable.
The charger should be fully Android - and Apple compatible, as the Note most likely checks for Ipad-compatible signals on the data lines for 2A support.
The USB Port of the P600 is really weird.....I`m searching a long time for a solution to use USB and charging at the same time, and I`m testing a lot of dockingg Stations for this.....thats really strange.....the Multimedia Dock, made for the Note 2, works with the Note 3, without Problems, alll Ports are working....but P600 doesnt accept it as any docking stations, it do absolutely NOTHING, if you put it in.....with the new desktop dock (without usb) both devices will accept it as an "Docking Station"...other Adapters, like Hama, with SD Card Reader, USB and micro USB, will accept as an USB connector, all works, but not charging......but now, the LAN to USB Adapter from Samsung for the PRO Tab Series, wich have 2 x USB, LAN and Charging Inputs, works fine, except the LAN Port......think, there no drivers there at P600.....The USB Port is not same pinned as the Note 3, and also not same as the Note 10.1 and other older Tabs.......maybe it`s same pinned as the PRO Series.....but not sure......
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